I’ve read Alan Pardew’s comments about Jose Enrique in The Chronicle today, and to be honest it’s a case of more of the same with no change on the horizon – Pardew maintains some hope of keeping him at the club but also admits that it’s possible, maybe probable, that we’ll lose Enrique this summer. He also maintains that we’ll cope should the Spaniard fly the nest.
I tend to agree with that assessment to be honest. Yes Jose is a fine player, but he doesn’t make or break the side. How many goals does he score? How many assists did he rack up? Not very many. How many times did he put the defence under pressure with a lapse of concentration or a misplaced pass? This may come as a surprise to some, but Jose is only human and is replaceable.
It’s pretty clear, to me anyway, that Jose is waiting to see if there is any interest in him before deciding his future. It’s his right after all and the club have made this situation themselves by leaving it until the last year of his deal to try and negotiate a new one, and it may well work if you listen to speculation linking him with a move to either Liverpool or Arsenal.
However, if his head is for turning then it’s probably best that some interest is smoked out for him. In the final third of last season we saw just how dangerous Jose Enrique can be when his mind is elsewhere and his performances took a nosedive for it. Professional or not, if you don’t really want to be somewhere you aren’t going to be at your best.
That is what we need. That is what we have become accustomed to over the last couple of seasons. We’ve been treated to seeing a bunch of committed lads playing football for the cause. If Jose stays will he still be for the cause? Or will he just be waiting for the next opportunity to arise?
I’d love Jose to stay, if he wants to stay, but the longer it goes on the more I fear that someone will come in with a bid for him. Enrique may be on holiday at the moment, but he needs to really think about things and let the club know what his intentions are so they can look at a replacement. Technically it’s not his problem mind, but I’d like to hope that Enrique will at least be honest to the club that gave him a break in the Premier League, and stood by him whilst he adapted to life in England.
So yes, life would go on without Jose, but it would be much better with Jose. What Alan Pardew said about being able to cope is true, but it doesn’t exactly send out the message that he is wanted does it? Hopefully the “mega” contract offered does send out the message that we want him to stay.
There is still hope. Slim hope, but hope all the same!
In one word… Yes.
Kevin Keegan’s Perm(Quote)
We can cope with losing Enrique, but the problem is the domino effect…
If he goes, will Jonas go? If they both go, will Colo be happy? He will want out because the Spanish connection is gone…
Then we lose Barton, Nolan, Enrique, Jonas, Colo… 🙁
Personally I think it’s crucial to our season next year that both Enrique and Barton get signed up…
JJ(Quote)
Very good point JJ. I think you’re right. We CAN cope without him, but we can’t cope without the spine of our current team.
Kevin Keegan’s Perm(Quote)
Seriously, if your friend left your place of work would you and your other mate who got on with him leave aswell? 🙄
Jobey07(Quote)
If we get the correct replacement… yes.
If we dont and end up with some one like perch at LB… no.
But i hear this neil taylor is supposed to be the next “leighton baines” I dont know how he can be like when leighton baines isnt even himself yet, if you get what I mean. 😆
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
Having said that ive heard he’s the same as James Perch 😆
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
We’ll hire N.Ranger as a hitman if he goes running to the bindippers 😉
Kevin Keegan’s Perm(Quote)
We’ve had plenty time to identify possible players to bring in if he does leave, months infact. Of course we could cope without him but like you said toonsy we would be better off with him staying.
I really like Jose, that would only change if he went to Liverpool 😆 If he does leave I will wish him all the best but he really needs to make his mind up soon and let Pardew know what he intends to do.
AndrewNUFC(Quote)
Juventus U15- 1-0 NUFC U15.
Just score!!! 👿
Just started 2nd half…
c’mon nufc.
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Hold on a minute, NUFC tried to negotiate a contract during the last season.
It was Jose that wouldn’t come to the table and wanted to wait, until a) we were safe in the prem and b) until the end of the season.
He’s also said how much he luvs it here etc blah blah blah.
Not fair to put the blame on the club for leaving it too late.
He is just being a tw@t imho 👿 👿
call his bluff and put him on the transfer list, @ offers over £15M.
Who the **** does he think he is, holding the club to ransom.
Bollix to him, he’s blown it for me.
Get him oot asap.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
£15mill? Bit high to say he only has one year left on his contract dont you think? 🙄
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
I dont understand why the club is pussyfooting around with him.
He clearly wants a move away.
Joey B wants to stay and the club are treating him loike shyte.
Fuggin madness 👿 👿 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Points 2 and 3 nail it, I think. The player – as Toonsy says – is good, but not superhuman. Replaceable. BUT…
He’s a good guy, well loved by the fans and one of those players that represents our resurgence over the past 2 years. We’d be gutted to see him go even if we got in someone just as good.
Most importantly, if his departure adds more momentum to the exodus, it’s very bad news indeed. Life without Nolan I can deal with; especially given how he went. But without Nolan, Barton, Jose, Jonas, Collo…
I don’t like the sound of that at all, and no amount of garlic-munching talent can really replace them for me.
Whumpie(Quote)
“Jobey07
Posted June 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Seriously, if your friend left your place of work would you and your other mate who got on with him leave aswell? :roll:”
If I worked in Argentina and the only two English speaking people left then ye, I would feel a lot less comfortable in that working environment.
JJ(Quote)
I think we will lose Jose but i dont think that means Jonas and Colo will want out they are both regarded as important players here and i cant see many teams going in for them and offering them what we can (PL starts and good wages)
I think it will be very interesting to see what defenders we get in this summer so far it seems we have got N.Taylor and are strongly linked with Izaguirre. who else are we linked with defender wise?
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
Spencer, if other clubs rate him so highly, then they will have to pay for him.
Or he can stay another year and run his contract down……in the ressies
I’m really angry about this. 😥
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
54th min Score Update Juventus 1-0 Newcastle
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
bb – fair point @12. However, I don’t think it’s that clear cut. I’m pretty confident that the club would have been very straight with Jose and his agents, and as AP says; it’s not like he’s doing anything more than checking his options. That’s what he should do with a year left and at a critical time in his career. I expect he’s made that clear to the club and knows they too have the right to cut their losses and replace him.
As for Joey; he turned down an extension and again I expect the club were straight with him. As with Saylor, they drew a clear line in the sand that represented the point beyond which it wasn’t worth it to them any more. When he mucked about and we found other options, the offer was withdrawn.
They play hard, this lot. To be honest, more clubs should do and we’d all spend less of our cash each week paying players silly money that they’re no longer earning.
Whumpie(Quote)
Yellow card for Newcastle number 10 Adam Armstrong!
Small but fiesty!
😈
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
JJ @15 – yes, I would. If I worked in a close-knit team of 20-odd people and my two best mates went at a time when I had other offers, I’d be far more likely to take them.
Whumpie(Quote)
I actually agree with you BB but am not quite so angry! 😆
Enrique is mucking around and it staggers me that just because barton and nolan are older they still showed the desire to stay; enrique is just ho huming until something better comes along.
I do think the likes of izagguire or m’bengue could be of a similar mould to enrique; he is a great player but since jan he hasnt actually performed for one reason or another. So whilst it would be a shame i think we have all got used to the idea of losing him
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
AOD- Whats the temp and humidity?
Both teams look aboslutly shagged 😆
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
Yes we can live without Jose. We will probably not be able to replace him with someone of the same quality- but get someone who is solid definsively and can whip a cross in and we’ll be fine there.
Love for him to stay but not the end of the world if he moves on.
MDS(Quote)
JJ – He should have f*cking learnt English, he’s been here 4 years now!
Jobey07(Quote)
One man we probably couldn’t live without is Graham Carr.
BBC reporting Frank Arnesan is leaving Chelsea and Abramovich has made new scouts a top priority…. 😥
Back on topic, we could cope without Enrique. As strong and skillful as he is, I for one won’t miss his cruyff turns in the six yard box…
KillyMag(Quote)
There’s also the value-for-money thing. Of course I rate Jose more highly than Simpson – but not by enough to justify several times the wage.
If (yet another) Taylor comes in and does almost as good a job as Jose but for a third of the wage, it leaves several mil in the pot for strengthening elsewhere, or hiring another 20 younguns to train up, etc.
…or lowering ticket prices… 😀
Whumpie(Quote)
Im pretty sure Jose, Jonas and Colo will have all learnt English by now.
Izaguirre anoother spanish speaking player so would fit right in with Jose old gang and all my Scottish friends praise him to the moon and most of them are Rangers fans 🙂
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
Lol Jack Warner the fifa mafia gang member has resigned 😀
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
Newcastle Utd 1-0 Juventus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/champions_league/2349169.stm
*sigh* Those were the days…
Kevin Keegan’s Perm(Quote)
@ N.Irish Toon
Lets hope he publishes his memoirs! It would read like a Guy Ritchie film, the bent c*nt!
KillyMag(Quote)
I love how Harper, LuaLua and Ameobi were all in that match! Makes it seem not so long ago that we were in the Champions League!
Kevin Keegan’s Perm(Quote)
Lol Jack Warner the fifa mafia gang member has resigned
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This was bound to happen. The US, Mexico, Canada and the Central American countries were threatening to leave CONCACAF and start their own federation.
MDS(Quote)
We will miss him yes, but we can cope easily. After our championship season and early on in the PL I thought enrique was the best left back in the league-but Cole and Baines are far better than him going forward and don’t make some of the same defensive mistakes. If we can get a LB that can tackle and win the ball and play a simple passing game we’ll be fine-we won’t be pinging in the crosses from overlaps anymore, so a good cross isn’t really that necessary anymore.
Newkie(Quote)
N.Irish Toon
Posted June 20, 2011 at 3:14 PM
“Lol Jack Warner the fifa mafia gang member has resigned”
I wonder how much was in his
big brown envelopeseverance package?toonsy(Quote)
From what i have heard it seems his hearing about the bribes and stuff has been cancelled because he has resigned so nothing will come of the bribery allegations 🙁
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
hence the “severance” package
MDS(Quote)
Guys, just for some laughter.
I was playing Football Manager 11,managing my Milan team,looking through my staffs,and i spotted this rather Funny Bug in my game. 😆
http://i52.tinypic.com/21j4pec.jpg
Geez,he has some epic gene in his body. 😯
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Better to keep him for stability and partnerships already formed within the team cut out mistakes.
Having said that, he is replaceable.
Being a left-back isn’t rocket science.
Younger, cheaper, better seems to be the new mantra …
geoff777(Quote)
Final Score Juventus 1-0 Newcastle
😥
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
My view on this seems out of step with the majority. I think Newcastle have to keep Jose. Left sided players with a sweet left foot are always a joy to watch, add to that his electrifying pace and you have to ask – can you replace! I think not, so Newcastle have to try and keep Jose. Is it possible that he is waiting to see what Newcastle do in the transfer market? Remember we have the 35 million from Carroll, which according to Pardew has been promised for new players by Ashley Ha Ha Ha!
My opinion is no more players leave and let’s see some cash spent on new players.
Alfie(Quote)
we need to keep some of the big hitting players we have or its going to be a bunch of players who have never played together and relegation will be back on the cards 😐
toonmad(Quote)
Having been involved in football most of my life as a player, coach & manager albeit at a lower level (step 5 in football pyramid). Teams change players come & go and as long as there is a plan and that plan is carried out then even the best players can be replaced. So if Enrique goes as with Jonas & Colo I am sure the club will go on. It would be nice to have owners like Man City who can buy anyone but we haven’t and aren’t likely too in the foreseeable future. We’ve got Fat Tw*t & Lamear*e so we have to make the most of it. We ARE a selling club but if we can also be a top 10 club with a chance of a good cup run every now & then. So be it
Geordiedoonsooth(Quote)
People keep saying are new players havnt played with each other but i think all the new french players know each other and HBA from the France u21s and have played a good bit together so its not like they are all strangers just meeting for the first time.
And hopefully we get most of our players in before we go to the states for pre-season will be good team building tour. now if that will be enough to get an understanding of each other i dont know but it would be a very good start.
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
I think it’s almost inevitable that Jose and Barton will be gone by the start of the season. Can we cope? Yes, but only if we replace them in their respective positions with players of comparable calibre. I don’t like the prospect of 1 in 1 out transfer activity as we’re still paper thin.
I think if Colo & Saylor went too we’d suffer though, as the centre of the park seems to be where the most damage is done, and we could probably replace Enrikki’s forward runs quite easily with one of our current 28,000 midfielders.
Rodzilla(Quote)
Geordiedoonsooth – how are we a selling club? Wet Spam are a selling club. Because they need to sell more than they need to buy. The only players we’re shipping out are the ones who are either deemed surplus to requirements, or those we can’t hit a deal with.
Meanwhile we’ve brought in 4 players in – what – 3 weeks and still have over £30m available to spend if it’s justified.
I’m not sure what this club has to do before people stop with the ‘selling club’ nonsense.
Whumpie(Quote)
whos the fourth player whumpie?
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
“Jobey07
Posted June 20, 2011 at 3:08 PM
JJ – He should have f*cking learnt English, he’s been here 4 years now!”
Ke? No hablo ingles? habla usted espanol?
JJ(Quote)
I’m not sure what this club has to do before people stop with the ‘selling club’ nonsense.
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It is frustrating, isn’t it?. Every time we sell one player we are deemed a selling club. By that definition, every club in the world is a selling club.
MDS(Quote)
Liam – that kid whose name escapes me. Arab name. Even if you discount him the point remains.
Whumpie(Quote)
@47 i know some spanish, but i’m sure if i lived in Spain, i’d learn it.
Jobey07(Quote)
whumpie ahmeid dont know if hes a done deal yet but thought i was missing out on something…..extremely quiet in the toon today
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
@48 I think the main reason we are being classed as a selling club is because we cant/or not willing to hold onto are big players Andy Carrol, Jose Enrique and do you think we will be able to hold onto Tiote if the big teams come knocking? look at spurs and they are in a better position than us
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
I dont know why the club are being so patient with him and not use the situation too their advantage . Its simple he wants a club who can offer CL football , Arsenal are reported to be interested in him the other 3 english clubs aren’t . Arsenal will wait and offer a low fee towards the end of the transfer window ,we will want more bet on it . There is a club who are going to play in the CL next season and we want one of their players Lille is the club Gervinho is the player . Now just maybe i am stupid but , we offer a straight swap if it comes off great , if not we have at least started a bidding war because we have let other clubs know we are prepared to let him go . The player all of a sudden thinks hang on i can’t hold them to ransom because they are planning without me and either panics and signs or feks off ,one thing is becoming apparent he is yet another that came out with i love the club , city ,fans blah blah ,blah but the colour of money is more important than signing and pushing on with us . Just like andy Judas ,his brother Kevin Judas and followed by Joey judas . Fek them all i say if their hart is not in the shirt the we are better off without .
so ,rant over ,i just needed to get it off my chest and can’t wait for the new season to start .
Axel(Quote)
I think wholesale changes are underway.
Assets sold like Carroll,Barton,Jose,Collo,Nolan and be replaced with freebies,foreign players on less money if the imports are young and have a decent season they will be tied into long deals like Tiote so clubs will be made to pay through the nose for any talent we develop or discover.
Great for MA’s bank balance but stability and progression will be impossible going forwards.
Sirjasontoon(Quote)
@Axel
i think are club management had talks with Gervinho and didnt like his attitude he must of had a bigger ego than ashley 😀 you know what they say there only enough room i this town for one ego-maniac 😉
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
@52. But that is always going to be the case since we can’t offer CL football. Another year or so of no CL and spurs players will be running for the exits.
Off topic, and probably of little matter, but I see the club has officially denied recieving any bids for Barton.
MDS(Quote)
Such is life in the close season. ****, people are going mental trying to get a stream for an U15s game – says it all! I even watched the U21s England match!
Sad. I’ll be watching tennis next.. 😳
Whumpie(Quote)
I would be very sad to see Enrique leave. He has built up such a good partnership with Jonas on that left flank. I think people are underestimating that partnership at their peril. It caused a lot of big teams a lot of problems last season. If both were replaced by N Taylor and Marveux, for a start we wouldn’t see much link up play and also how long would it take them to settle anyway. Enrique is rather unfairly leaving us in limbo here because if he is gonna leave, now is the time to sign a decent LB and give them pre-season to try and bed in.
DJG(Quote)
so Pardew thinks Enrique is a big, big, big, big player for us.
Why doesnt Pards learn then to keep his big big big big cockney gob shut instead of ridiculing Enrique and his agent about not even speaking to the toon bigwigs..
I wonder how he rated Nolan, big big? I’d say barton is as big big big big as Enrique.. 😐
mark(Quote)
Sad. I’ll be watching tennis next..
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Been relying on golf and transfer rumours to get me through it. And we got MLS and Gold Cup going on here, but dying for the preaseason to start.
MDS(Quote)
@52
I agree with you but that is the reason why most teams get the “seller club” label.
I am hoping Ashleys 5 year plan works out and we push for a Uefa cup spot its not the best but its Europe and would make are club look a hell of alot better for future players.
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
Oh aye Nolans a Big Big lad. 😉
DJG(Quote)
Interesting thoughts in the Chron – Ben Arfa (which we knew) or possibly Cabaye to play in the hole behind Ba in a 4-4-1-1.
Hmm.
blip(Quote)
Those knocking this strategy need to say what they club should be doing instead. It’s clear that when they find a good player who has the right attitude they’re willing to put in the dosh and pay them what it takes. It’s equally clear that if an existing player wants more than is in the club’s interest to stay, they’re shown the door.
What the hell’s wrong with that?
The previous strategy seemed to involve a lot of debt, vaseline and arseholes like Owen.
If there’s a middle ground, I’d like to hear about it.
Whumpie(Quote)
I thought Cabaye was more a defensive type? (perhaps showing my ignorance here)
Regardless of that, I do get the distinct impression that AP and his team have this all thought out, with enough options there to adapt when we lose out on targets.
C’mon Joey and Jose – say you’ll stay, be realistic about contracts and let’s start looking forward to next season. Surely you can see that the way things are going you’ll get your CL footie with THIS club in a couple of years??
Whumpie(Quote)
Enrique is replaceable, and Nolan has already been replaced. But as others have noted, the knock-on effect is my main concern. While I wouldn’t have been gutted to lose any one or two of them, losing all of Nolan, Enrique, Barton, Jonas and (the biggest one to me) Coloccini would be devastating. I don’t think we’re there yet, and I’m hopeful that Barton, Jonas and Coloccini will still be around. But really, I think we should be looking at adding a CB, which doesn’t seem to be talked about as much as some other positions. I’m not sold on S. Taylor and Williamson. They’re OK, but I don’t think they’re much better at CB than Simpson is on the right, and some fans think Simpson can’t cut it for us.
Charlie Prince(Quote)
@65
Cabaye is a box to box midfielder so he is attacking and defence i can see him beside tiot being allowed to surge forward to help the attack
and i realy hope Joey Barton still isnt i our team WHEN we reach europe again 😀
N.Irish Toon(Quote)
There were a good few teams in the Premiership whose leftbacks were not as good as Jose – and some of them finished above us! So we could cope without him.
Spitfire(Quote)