Get voting! Would you back a move for Sturridge?

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Loan deal for Sturridge?
The Sunday Sun published it’s latest big hitting Sunday headline this morning, and it’s a headline that will interest fans of Newcastle United for sure.

Or will it?

Once again we are being linked with a move for Chelsea striker Daniel Sturridge, only this time it would appear that a loan-to-buy kind of deal is firmly on our agenda. Sturridge scored 8 goals in 12 games for Bolton last term which is a good return, but opinion on the 21-year-old striker and a potential move to St James’ Park is pretty divided, hence this article…

There seems to be a view that Sturridge could be the answer to our goalscoring problems. I’d argue that we already have someone like that in the shape of Demba Ba though as, looking at their goalscoring records, the pair are remarkably similar. In fact you could even argue that Demba Ba’s achievements are greater given that he scored much the same amount of goals in a weaker team.

The one thing that Demba Ba has that Sturridge hasn’t is a question mark over his fitness. I have no doubt that Demba Ba will be a cracking player for us if his knee is “managed” properly, but wouldn’t it be nice to have another striker who can also hit the back of the net?

I’d love to have Sturridge here so my vote is firmly in the ‘yes’ camp, but I know some of you don’t feel the same. Why not? I think Sturridge would compliment what we have here already and would mean that we are less reliant on just the one main striker. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

However I would also want it to be a deal that is beneficial to Newcastle. It’s all well and good bringing him in on loan, but if there is nothing at the end of the deal that is of any benefit to us then where does it leave us at the end of the season? Imagine if he did arrive at St James’ Park, and if he was a success, what would it be like having to lose him? For one there would be an outcry and, most importantly, we’d be back to square one in the hunt for a striker.

This is why it’s good to hear that a loan-to-buy deal has not been ruled out by Alan Pardew. This is what he said about our hunt for a striker in the Sunday Sun earlier today:

“There’s not a striker who moves that we’re not aware of or involved with – we have to be. We would also do a loan player if there was something at the end of it for us.”

It had previously been reported that Newcastle weren’t interested in doing any loan deals this summer, but I guess the goalposts have shifted and now it looks as though it is an avenue that the club are happy to explore, as long as it’s beneficial to the club. It’s the right way in my opinion. What I want to know now is what you guys think.

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74 thoughts on “Get voting! Would you back a move for Sturridge?”

  3. He would be a great addiction. If it is were a loan to buy deal, a reasonable fee needs sorting out now as opposed to having it negotiated at the end of the season. Why? Chelsea could push the price up if he has a good year and also Newcastle will accused Chelsea of changing the goal posts and pull out of the deal. He is a Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink type and would fit in very well here.

    All pie in the sky at the moment though…

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  4. “Imagine if he did arrive at St James’ Park, and if he was a success, what would it be like having to lose him? For one there would be an outcry and, most importantly, we’d be back to square one in the hunt for a striker.”

    What difference does it make whether he’s a loanee or on permanent books? There’s no guarantees in football anymore. Look at the paper talk about Tiote to Chelski…I know he says he doesn’t want to go but the point is even a player on a 5 year deal is not a rock solid certainty. Clubs work from season to season any more than that is crystal ball gazing. Getting Sturrige on a season long loan would be excellent…lets worry about next season at the end of this one Eh?

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  7. JoeSoap
    July 17, 2011 at 12:31

    “What difference does it make whether he’s a loanee or on permanent books?”

    So people wouldn’t whinge about the fact that we aren’t stumping up the cash? Even if he had a good season and pricked the interest of a bigger club and there was nothing that could be done about?

    Howay man. There would be outcry. It’s plainly obvious. Look at the state some fans are in now with a month and a half still to go in the transfer window…..

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  8. aye…but only on loan, as at the supposed 20 million he is way overpriced imo.

    AND not as paperweight for a Tiote swop… 🙄

    Sunday Sun….bahh…

    I vote yes by the way…get him on loan for sure…

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  10. The lad is an England striker of the future. We’d be mad not to go for him. Erdinc has promise, but Roux is a far better bet as No 9 – and Sturridge is perhaps even better again.

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  12. Toonsy without wanting to start the usual arguments and finish up attracting loads of abuse….I’m not really bothered what ‘some’ fans might say….neither is Ashley. As I’ve said previously we don’t have any real input and like the debacle at Darlo the other night…negative sh*te from a few juvenile fans is doing more harm than good. Constantly slagging Ashley and his decisions just isn’t helping …..and no I’m not an Ashley supporter. Sturridge would be a real plus who could make the difference between mid table and the top 6…even if he left after 1 season being in the top 6 might be enough to attract some other ‘top’ striker at the end of next season or who knows maybe the club will unearth some young’un in the meantime

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  14. I would say Erdinc for the speed (apparently bids accepted, terms agreed, but his agent is holding it up wanting a bonus that ashley won’t pay), and then take sturridge on loan aswell. 🙂

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  15. Get him here with nzogbia. replace jose with another lb nd i reckon europe wont be far away. who agrees?

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  16. only thing i would say about the kid is he has played in a bolton side with two big strikers up front and fed off them to a degree has he played as a out and out striker which we need,ime not saying the kid cannot do that job i think he can,its just a thought 😕

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  17. Icedog…another issue with Sturridge is the fact that he would want to be guaranteed a first team place. Maybe only Bolton could promise him that ?
    There again, wor silver tongued manager could convince him to come to the toon, not sure where he would play though, and who would make way for him…. 🙄

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  18. Sturridge has proven last season he can score goals in the premier league. This is a no brainer to me. 8 goals in 12 games with no real injury record. Ba and Sturridge could be a partnership most teams envy. If our midfield performs to what we all hope, then these two guys could have all the service they need. Sign him up! Sturridge could also play as a lone striker with Ben Arfa playing as the number 10 for the games when Ba is in the knackered room. Lets hope not tho!

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  20. attention all toon fans. if u ever see pardew in the street or owt tell him to get him signed up and that every toon fan wants him. wish notw hacked ashleys phone haha

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  22. No, Not convinced.
    I don’t think he is the answer to our striking options. Yes he did well at Bolton. However, He has not demonstrated either consistancy or ability at the highest level. He has hardly performed at u21 level.
    Whilst I think he has potential his attitude is reported to be poor, and he would attrack the young English premium. Personally I lump him in the Ranger & Carroll class. Potentially wonderful but with attitude problems. Would not be prepared to pay the premium for him. Certainly would not expect him to come straight into our 1st team.

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  23. Floydy I heard that Erdinc is due a loyalty payment in January if he stays with PSG. If he is transfered to us he won’t get it. He is arguing that He is not choosing to move so therefore he still deserves it. Will get sorted eventually.

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  24. with our midfield and ba and sturrigde up front would be awesome! Totally agree with toonsy that sturrigde doesnt have the same question mark over his fitness.

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  26. Ashley won’t pay agent’s fee for Erdinc. Reports than Pardew has to sell before he can buy. Pardon me for asking but if free transfers have devoured most of the £35m the truth and what we read are poles apart. Sturridge? Of course he would be a good signing but do we have to lose Tiote to clinch it?
    There is plenty of time left in the window and many more days for us to be fed, shall we say, confusing stories.

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  27. we have plenty of assists in the team but need someone to be on the end of them, he’s a greedy type of player but so was andy cole, get him in

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  30. @army 69

    the mirror journalists just read the sunday sun. 😉
    I hope it is true tho. Imagine another season of Ameobi and Lovenkrands leading the line if Ba got injured…

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  34. Can’t believe some people have actually voted no 😯

    Would love it if we get him, with Ba and Sturridge upfront and Benny in the role behind them we would have a class attack.

    Loan view to buy would be a great deal 🙂

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  35. west ham wanted a 4.5m fee and all wages paid to loan Parker out, would imagine Chelsea will want similiar for Sturridge – wasted money imo

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  37. Looking at the riches of striker manure have. I would be in favour of a loan deal for Wellbeck. he is a contemporary of Sturridge and we can forgive him for playing for the unwashed.
    I am not a lover of loans between two premier clubs but if it means we get the best player available then I am prepared to go with it.
    Ask yersel would you rather sign carlton cole, robbie keane or have on loan Sturridge or Wellbeck it really is a no brainer

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  38. army – yes, Enrique posted a pic of them at airport – flying to Luton and then coach to heathrow – how tight is that !

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  39. FLOYDY,agents are real blood-suckers you think players are bad,i dont wish to be a know-all,but they all vary i have myself a copy of a agents contract with a friend of mine who plays the game i can tell you a little of what is in it but not all,the contract stands for five yrs,he can command a fee depending of the of value of transfer fee which can vary from 10/25%he also takes 5/10% of wages paid (they dont work for nowt),now he can sack the agent of coarse,but if it is within that five yrs,he must still pay his old agents 5% of wages until contract expires,so he can end up paying two agents,as i said agents vary terms vary and can only say a little of this one,but they are binding 👿

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  40. i voted no cause any1 that dint need glasses can see he aint as good as a lot of people trying to make out or he would be in the chelsea team

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  41. SteveP – Aye but easyBus have some cracking deals on Airport transfers at the minute 😆

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  42. Torres, Anelka, Drogba, Kalou.

    Slightly different to:

    Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Best and Ranger if you ask me toonarmyelite.

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  44. TOBY LE RHONE @37
    good call would take him meself miles better than sturrigde

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  46. Don’t know about you but add sturridge to ba hba marveux that is a potent attack!

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  47. If we signed Daniel Sturridge (which I realise is still a long shot at this stage)
    would people be thinking of changing their preferred starting formation for next season?

    I realised that the majority went for a 4-2-3-1 type of formation when it has been discussed in the past but surely with Ba and Sturridge in the squad would we not want them playing together?

    ——————Krul———————-
    Simmo–Collo–S.Taylor–Enrique
    ———— Tiote–Cabaye————-
    — Barton——————Ben Arfa —
    ————Sturridge–Ba—————

    There is a lot of selection headaches in the midfield which could be interesting.

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  48. Great news Carlton cole is comitted to hammers phew really would be worried if he joined!

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  49. ARMY i know what your saying but he tends to let his gob run away and upsets to many in the dressing room.and he aint going to change now

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  51. ARMY think hes a bit long in the tooth aint he about 32 or something like that ice is right he very mouthy 🙄

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  52. ———————Krul————————
    Simmo Taylor Collo Enrique

    ————Tiote———Cabaye————-

    Barton ———Ben Arfa———-Marveaux

    Ba/Sturridge

    Id like to see Ba playing if he can create the same sort of form he produced for west ham, but i cant see us taking sturridge on loan if we werent going to play him week in week out. I cant imagine chelsea agreeing to that deal either. I think that number 10 role would suit Ben Arfa perfectly tho giving him that bit of freedom to create a bit of magic. If the Sturridge rumours are true, it will be an iteresting team selection next year with a decent bench for a change.

    Jonas, Ferguson, Gosling, Williamson, Forster. ( I cant see Newcastle letting either Forster or Krul leave when Harper only really has 2/3 years of playing left)

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  53. i have doubts about Ba playing in nearly every game. We need another top marksman. I know nothing about Erdinc but he must be high on Carr’s list. Wellbeck or Sturridge are the best available from the premier league.
    Any of the clearout from Spuds would want too high a salary and the rest are no better than Shoala

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  55. Bellamy was average last season at best and that was in the Championship. He is too old for our regime anyhow and we already have Barton on the books. Whilst one outspoken mouthy senior player is not always a bad thing, two would start to be a problem.

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  56. I voted ‘undecided’ because whilst he is a good player this just isn’t going to happen. Look at how we set-up against Darlo, 4-3-3. We are taking the modern, continental approach and leaving 4-4-2 behind.

    Ba will probably be named the new number 9 and is likely to play up front by himself.

    Erdinc and another versatile squad player in before 31st and I will be…content. We will then be prepared for the season.

    Can’t say I’m not annoyed by the clubs constant lies though. The non-stop claims that free transfers and contracts have eaten away at the £35million are not credible in the slightest. Does that mean we would have had no money at all if Carroll wasn’t sold? If so, that is shambolic.

    Just wish I knew what KK clearly knows. He predicted this would happen and was right. He must know something. Why doesn’t he come out and say it?…

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  58. whens newcastles games at america???

    are they gonna be showing live on the net do you think??

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  59. Loan-to-buy deal, yes. But without buy option, no. I don’t want to see Newcastle United developing players to other PL clubs. Where is that £35 million? Fullback and striker, Mr. Ashley, thank you 😈

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  60. Its only my opinion but if you look at where Sturridge sits in the pecking order @ Chelski, He’s only ever going to be at best a third or forth choice striker, and shouldn’t take much persuasion to make the move in return for a more permanent place in the team. With the money they’ve got, theyn needn’t drop to his standard to provide someone to kick them into the Champions League , so I would say get the bid in PDQ.
    As for not wanting or needing two strikers up top, I have a rather long memory as I would suppose you have Toonsy, and remember with tremendous excitement watching such pairs as obviously Shearer and Ferdinand, MacDonald and Tudor and stretching it a bit thinner, Wynn Davies and Pop Robson.
    Although I was around the ten Minute flag in the days of Len White and Co, it seems we’ve always had a big-un and a little-un up top and it nearly always resulted in a goal apiece .
    Bring in Sturridge for me and watch the Good times roll. Happy Days. HWTL.

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  62. Here are some interesting words from Harry Redknapp when discussing the possibility of Spurs signing Scott Parker.

    “If you take into account the fee of around £8m, signing on fees and wages you’re talking about a £30m deal. There is no way the club would sanction a deal for a 30-year-old who would have no resale value at the end of his contract.”

    Maybe the NUFC weren’t 100% bullshi%#ing when talking about deals being worth a lot more than they are often perceived to be worth.

    Hmm…

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  63. ~ EL TORO ~
    you would be surprised i think if they released some of the signing on fees

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  64. just because the fee says free when you got rivals for these free players wages aint the only thing they want.when it says free all that means is the player and his agent pocketing the fee which is really a signing on fee.

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  65. ba alone his signing on fee will have been mimium 6mil, stoke i think it was were ganna pay about that for him, so ya can bet his agent aint ganna get him to sign for less than 6 million signing on fee.

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  66. No player on earth asks for a 6 MILLION sign on fee. That’s ridiculous.

    If any player does, then I give up on following football as that makes me sick. These tossers are paid a sickening amount as it is, if they get that money to sign a contract, then it’s disgusting.

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  69. It isn’t harsh at all.

    Asking for £6m to agree to a job is beyond pathetic. That cannot be defended by any sane human being. I might try that when I get an interview for my next job.

    “I’ll only work for you if you give me enough money to save thousands of lives in Africa…… no deal? I will go elsewhere, someone is retarded enough to offer me a soul sickening amount of money”.

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  70. we wernt the only prem team after ba his agent nars what stoke offered so his signing on fee ganna be close to that

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  71. and the agent always ganna recomend the highest offer to the player cause hes on a percentage of it

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  72. “Signing on” fees are spread across the length of the contract.

    They are also called “loyalty payments”.

    If they were paid “up front” then players would be swapping clubs every window.

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  73. Definitely! A Ba/Sturridge combo would be brilliant imo. Or with Sturridge and Arfa playing off Ba we’ll have a truly mobile and versatile strike force..

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