Personally, any deal that gets rid of Xisco is good one in my opinion although obviously a permanent one would be better as it would mean that he won’t return.
According to the oracle that is Wikipedia (I know!) it is a permanent deal although there is a distinct lack of any other confirmation on that front with other sources stating that the deal is just a temporary one. Perhaps one of the losers that edit Wiki will run along now and change it?
Will he be back or won’t he? It seems strange that whilst the club are keen to offer out free transfers to the likes of Joey Barton and Alan Smith they would be willing to keep hold of Xisco who has had about 60 managers to work under during his time at St James’ Park but has managed to impress none.
Perhaps he has been offered the same way out as Smith and Barton although I personally find it hard to believe that Deportivo would be able to remunerate Xisco to anywhere near the same level that we have been for the past three years or so, especially when you consider that they are no longer a La Liga side having suffered relegation last season.
To me all the signs point towards it being yet another loan deal with us being almost certain of picking up most of his wage tab in the process. I’m not too fussed on that to be honest as at least we’ll be saving a little bit and keeping Xisco around is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. At least it frees up another place in the squad I guess although in fairness we could actually replace him with nobody and be no worse off.
Am I being too hard on Xisco? Probably. Do I care? Not really. I understand that it’s not his fault that he has been paid a fortune for doing absolutely nothing during his time at NUFC. Being honest I’d milk it for as long as I could aswell. The thing that does irk me is that he hasn’t even bothered to at least make an effort when he has been here. There has been no urgency to prove a point and to me that is not what being a professional is about.
So goodbye Xisco. Hopefully this time for good!
@MDS
but it’s a sad reflection on our club when we have one of the best left backs in the premier, who we can’t keep hold of because of our lack of ambition.
Even Pardew admits we can’t compete at a European level despite the fact some say on here that we have signed outstanding players in Cabaye and Marveaux.
I mean, despite all my criticisms, I expect us to be mid table again so why do I get so much abuse when ultimately we think we will end up no better off than last year.?
My point is that we have £25m of the £40m received to make us better and we are still waiting to offload before buying.
Please tell me a good counter argument to my viewpoint?
High ham weighting. 😕
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
@BSN9 I’m sure we have at least £35million?
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
@johno
I think the fantasy club are off their trolleys. Not me. 😉
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
I hope he is gone for good as there is no point to him at all if he isn’t going to add to the team.
Batty I agree mate Saylor top scorer, funny he is still here and he was a greedy unloyal c@nt and was only trying to screw the club for money or a move, but where is the 2 loyal players that loved the club remember them 2 Carroll and Tugboat 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
25 man squad bobby.
Have to sell to make the room.
JiggaJoe(Quote)
@dimpleboy
So do I but I was trying to be conservative to stop the fantasy backlash. 😉
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
😉 We’ve made a profit in this and the last window, so actually we have more than £5million
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
Gutted to see Jose finally go – just wish it could have been abroad.Dogleash dismantled the best team we have had for a couple of generations, now he’s at it again.
Everybody’s talking about strikers – quite right – but what about the defence, no full backs – no plan !!! and these stories about Colo back to Spain seem to have been overlooked – if he goes what the f**k is going on – and why isnt Kadar figuring – this kid has been considered one of Europe’s brightest prospects – a bit like Vukic
I’ve never seen a team play with a keeper ,3 at the back ,6 in midfield and a striker
LeedsMag(Quote)
With xisco and enrique gone we have room for 2 players. ST and a LB…
JiggaJoe(Quote)
blackpool too win 42 on pens 😉
batty(Quote)
dave aye i remember a few saying get rid of the greedy b@stard 😉
batty(Quote)
@jiggajoe
Is that not just convenient for the club?
Come on? Lover will be on peanuts in premier terms.
I know for a fact, ranger is on £8k per week.
These players could be paid up or put up for frees.
Does everyone not see why it suits the club to claim it’s a 25 man squad?
Toonsy has done loads of threads on it but I’ve refrained from criticising too much because I don’t want to undermine him as he puts so much effort into the blog.
But it’s gone on too long now and not one of you on this blog has realised the simplicity of offloading players.
Many clubs will pay better wages than we are paying our fringe players as long as we don’t try and rip the eyes out of the prospective clubs by asking a transfer fee.
We paid minimal amounts for these players so we should accept a minimal loss and create space for better players.
WE HAVE £35m TO SPEND!!
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Aye Batty I can remember a few too, So did you get anymore gear mate
Big Dave(Quote)
bobby 35 mill 😯 have we thats great 😆 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
Thought we had room for a striker anyway, then Jose and Xisco off = two more spots so three?
Doubt we’ll get three in though, but certainly counting on two… and for the right positions please!!
Susan(Quote)
dave cannit say on here m8 ,too many coppers narks 😉
batty(Quote)
It’s worth duplication;
Please read Toonsy and do a thread on it;
Bobby Shinton Number 9
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@jiggajoe
Is that not just convenient for the club?
Come on? Lover will be on peanuts in premier terms.
I know for a fact, ranger is on £8k per week.
These players could be paid up or put up for frees.
Does everyone not see why it suits the club to claim it’s a 25 man squad?
Toonsy has done loads of threads on it but I’ve refrained from criticising too much because I don’t want to undermine him as he puts so much effort into the blog.
But it’s gone on too long now and not one of you on this blog has realised the simplicity of offloading players.
Many clubs will pay better wages than we are paying our fringe players as long as we don’t try and rip the eyes out of the prospective clubs by asking a transfer fee.
We paid minimal amounts for these players so we should accept a minimal loss and create space for better players.
WE HAVE £35m TO SPEND!!
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Anyone wonder where we’d be now if we hadn’t have sold Carroll?
We needed to sell him to bring in a couple of freebies so what would have been able to bring in without that sale?
Stuart79(Quote)
Bobby your full of **** can you really see the Fatman giving players away, when it will deminish our 25 man squad we need them to fill spaces 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
@batty
If Troy hears there’s coppers narks on here he will take an overdose of monster Munch and space invader crisps!
Nowt worse than that fella! 😛
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Anyone actually understand what is going on with this draw?
Stuart79(Quote)
@big Dave
Youre not the only one on here who says I’m full of ****.
I’m in France.
C’est la vie. 😛
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
away at scunny
batty(Quote)
Newcastle are playing in the Scunthorpe cup!
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
what division are scunthorpe ?
Army69(Quote)
@stu
To put you on the spot.
Position for next season based on Barton and Jose leaving and for fantasy sake Petiers coming in.
Weve saved £30m . So where do you see us?
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
what divison are scun thorpe?
Army69(Quote)
Bobby – I don’t think many people doubt that players can be let go (isn’t that what they are trying to do with Smith and Barton???). We all know Ashley is tight so what makes you think he’ll just pay up contracts? The evidence to back that up is there right in front of you with Smith an Barton who can go for nothing remember…
Also players like ranger don’t need to be named anyway…
toonsy(Quote)
scun thorpe are in n pwer divion 1 , sitting in 13th place with there last match being a draw in the lague against wycombe!! shouldnt be to hard should it ?? ….
Army69(Quote)
army we lost against them 2 seasons ago 😉
batty(Quote)
@big Dave
Why does it not cross people’s minds though. They are so tied up with this stringent 25 man squad when it takes a knats brain cell to realise that these players who are on a less than £10k per week can be easily offloaded on a free.
It suits the club to keep them UNTIL the final day of the transfer window when they will depart FOR AN UNDISLOSED FEE!!
Predictable as the fantasy club not grasping life basics . 🙄
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
batty i can remember 😳
Army69(Quote)
did that woolford or summit score a couple ?
Army69(Quote)
@army69 the spam filter stopped your comment because of a certain four letters in Scunthorpe 😛
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
@toonsy
Does loverman need to be named? Hmmm? 🙄
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Does perch have to be named? Hmmm? 😕
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Booby old chap, would it make you happy if perhaps ashley was trying to make it easier to sell the club by offloading all our high earners.
Would that put a smile on your cynical face?
Would that fulfil your deepest fantasies?
Would you be giving it woo hoo large and all that?
You just never kna.
He may just offload all those players, sell the club as you wish ………..
……….and get us relegated in the process.
He’d have the last laugh, after all the **** he has taken.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Bobby maybe its the lack of a knats brain cell mate 😀
When does the 25 players need to be named anyhow ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
Bobby – So to clarify, after moaning about us not spending money you now advocate us paying up contracts of players and letting them just go? How many other teams do that?
toonsy(Quote)
@BB
Thankyou for not using abusive language it makes you slightly more intelligent than a newt. 😛
But to answer your point, he’s already done as you say and got us relegated and I can only go off what our player of the season said after the Leeds game, that he felt the same concerns again and wasn’t prepared to put up with it.
Don’t ask me, ask last years player of the season who has experienced relegation through Adhleys tight fisted approach.
😛
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Anyhoo. Laters gaters. Bed time 😛
toonsy(Quote)
No as per usual you fail to read what I wrote.
I asked you if it would make you happy if he was making it easier to sell the club, by offloading our high earners, even tho it could wel lead to relegation?
You do want him to sell the club dont you?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I dont recall him selling off our best players and getting us relegated??????
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I’m going to bed now.
Ashley out
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
@toonsy
Eh?
No.
Instead of trying to claw back a transfer fee for lover or perch who are on less than £10 k, put them up for nothing.
The club won’t because they know it frees up places in the squad.
Toonsy, this regime as so manipulative that they try every trick in the book to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes in order to recoup as much money back ASAP and bail out.
You keep bringing up this 25 man squad restriction. Lover is on less than £12k per week. Fact.
Are you seriously telling me that no club would offer him a better deal in the premiership?
The club won’t put him up for free for one reason only. Because that would release a place in the squad and put pressure on the board to buy.
Nothing more basic than understanding simplistics
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
@BB
Eh?
Did he not sell given, Milner and Zoggy?
And we got relegated?
You really are a turnip! 😳
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
@BB You do recall that season in the championship??
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
@toonsy
Quite convenient to disappear to bed. (but actually research before you come back with a comprehensive answer).
Whatever you choose, either to actually go to bed, ( I dont believe) or to do your research ( sensible choice), you better comeback with something or I will be dying for you. 😛
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
Given asked for a transfer, JFK pissed off insomnia, Milner yes I agree.
Are you seriously suggesting the loss of those 3 players caused our relegation?
Maybe its you who is the turnip. 😳
Now answer my question ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I don’t have a clue what you’s two are debating, I might have a look in the morning 🙂
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
Bobby – Last one as I’m off to kip now.
Yes I get your point entirely, but you are failing to see mine. You say about not offering players out on frees ok? I say we are doing just that by offering Smith and Barton out on such deals. Get it?
The net result is that squad places are freed up.
Its really not that hard to grasp. Essentially your saying the board won’t do something when, very publicly in fact, they are doing exactly what you say they aren’t 😕
toonsy(Quote)
dimpleboy – whats your point?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Ashley took us down In my opinion. He undermined Keegan which in turn left us with JFK. When that didn’t work out he panicked and hoped Shearer could turn things around in 6 games.
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
If we don’t sign a LB & ST by the end of the window I’ll be gutted, we knew we wouldn’t get the money, the annoying thing is Pardew has lied to us regarding this. We don’t have the intention of paying decent money for a striker, we tried to get Erding on the cheap and wouldn’t meet the valuation that PSG set, also, one of the most naturally gifted strikers in this country has signed for West Brom in Shane Long and we stood by and let him pass, ridiculous, he has everything it takes to be the future number 9, awesome talent. I think Pardew is going to play one of our midfielders off Ba, possibly Benny Arfa when he returns or even Jonas. He’ll stick with Best and Shola as cover and I think Vuckic will be used a lot more this season if he steers clear of injury which isn’t a bad thing. Anyone else think we’ll get a striker in? Who would you lads realistically come in?
FlashJonas(Quote)
Scunthorpe in the cup!
Let’s hope their not as good as that team I can’t remember the name of!
What were they called again? 😳
Moreno(Quote)
@toonsy
Are you taking pills tonight or just had a hard nights graft?
How can we offload xisco, Barton, Colo, Jose, smith if they don’t want to go?
I’m CLEARLY referring to the likes of Lover and Perch who could be offered for free and there’s a great chance that a club will pay more than the £12k per week they are on.
They won’t offer them on a free because it frees up places in the squad. They do not want to buy unless they get money for a player sold.
Howay fella. Get to bed and wake up fresh.
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
@Moreno Who do you mean? 🙂
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
Bobby – Let me tell you a secret. I’ve fobbed off regular posters on here who all say you should be got rid of, that I should get rid of the cause of so many problems, yet you’re still here.
Not for much longer though. I’ve had enough if your condasending attitude towards people and the thinly veiled digs towards other people. You repeatedly do this, time and time again. You’ve been warned about it, time and time again yet you still can’t grasp making a point without being a **** about it.
Die for me if you wish. I only state my opinions. You’ll still be able to read them of course, and others, even ones who have the same opinion as yourself (please note how Stuart and yourself have a similar view yet he can put his point across without being a *****), it just means you won’t be able to join in.
Goodbye 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
Amen
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Dimple,
Actually have a memory block. They are the Accrington Stanley of the South. they’re a top outfit like, glad we didn’t draw them again 😳 Hereford? Nah wasn’t them….
Moreno(Quote)
Dunno who your own about, I’m just glad it’s not Millwall away 😉
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
stevenage ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
that’s the one!
glad we swerved them!
Moreno(Quote)
🙄 😆
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Probably Barton’s best goal for us as well.
The keeper was a full time postman though.
Moreno(Quote)
So is that cup game to be played in August like ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
“Ties will be played during the week commencing 22nd August 2011.”
Moreno(Quote)
Moreno – You can’t say that about last season Player of the Season man 🙄
toonsy(Quote)
He never got my vote!
Just finished a 13 hour shift, same as yesterday….off for 2 days the noo though!
Driving down the road tomorrow so I am buzzing
Moreno(Quote)
Are you taking pills tonight or just had a hard nights graft?
Howay fella. Get to bed and wake up fresh.
Quite convenient to disappear to bed. (but actually research before you come back with a comprehensive answer).
Whatever you choose, either to actually go to bed, ( I dont believe) or to do your research ( sensible choice), you better comeback with something or I will be dying for you.
You really are a turnip!
Nothing more basic than understanding simplistics
I think the fantasy club are off their trolleys. Not me
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That kind of thing if you don’t know what I’m on about. Now wake up and smell the coffee and read away until your heart is content.
toonsy(Quote)
Moreno, stevenage got knocked out by Peterborough in carling cup on tuesday. I was at the game, they caused peterborough a lot of trouble
Zoë Vicarage(Quote)
Has Bobby failed to ‘conduct’ himself in the right manner again?
Chortle chortle
Moreno(Quote)
Thank God for that Zoe!
We may just get past the fourth round of a cup this season!
Moreno(Quote)
lee_ryder Lee Ryder
#nufc players have thrashed out a bonus scheme over next two years – read more on http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk tomorrow
Full article in The Times but a dain’t subscribe
Moreno(Quote)
Moreno – Yes. He could have done with brushing up on the comments policy numerous times.
I’ll not be giving him a 7th chance. The guy is more irritating than thrush. I expect I’ll get some form of e-mail response from him, again… 🙄
toonsy(Quote)