Put simply, it wasn’t his finest hour and he was responsible for two of the three goals Manchester City scored.
The first error was one that led to the first penalty. If you put your arm that high in the penalty box then you are asking for trouble. Trouble duly arrived. The second one was a misjudgement on his part as he attempted to intercept the ball from Micah Richards. His attempted clearance never got past Richards and the Manchester City full-back went on to score from it.
Naturally this had led to questions being asked about his role in the team. Should the makeshift left-back carry on in his role as makeshift left-back? Or should the man who was originally signed for that role, Davide Santon, be given his long-awaited chance?
I’m not so sure. I’ve been one of Ryan Taylor’s harshest critics at times but I’ve had to cool my pipes on him recently. You just have to look at his role in one of the meanest defences in the league and admit that he’s played a part in it.
Then there are his offensive qualities. He’s won us six points with his goals so far this season which is more than Jose Enrique managed in his three years at Newcastle. For that he should be commended and his contribution should not be ignored.
It’s the defensive side of his game that I worry about more than anything else though. Yes he has been a part of a rock solid unit, but how much of it has been down to him? And has it cost us in other ways?
I think so. You see I feel Jonas Gutierrez is being compromised to accommodate Ryan Taylor. We are all aware just how hard the Argentinian will work for the team. He’ll track back and help out defensively which is great, but it doesn’t help us out in attack. We’re losing an attacking outlet due to having Ryan Taylor in the team.
Did you know that 37% of attacks this season have come from our left? Did you know that last season that number was 65% so you can see that there has been some effect.
However is that enough to warrant dropping Taylor? I’m not so sure. Surely we can’t expect all players not to make any mistakes? And do we know enough about Davide Santon to include him?
Sure he has this highly-rated tag and comes with a wealth of commendations from some of the games greatest names, plus he’s been scouted by Graham Carr and Co so you’d assume they can see something in him.
The debate will rage on and I don’t really know an answer. On one hand it would be tough to drop Taylor as he’s done well. On the other hand is there a point in having competition for places if there is no comeback from a bad performance?
Personally I’d persevere with Taylor against Manchester United next week. If he makes more mistakes then perhaps his role in the team should start to come into question. Not on one performance though, no matter how emotional we get about the game.
Stay calm and think of Newcastle!
I say stick with ryan taylor for the next two matches.cause we all know the chances are slim in winning the next two.
so why not,give ryan a chance to repay,if he still continues to play badly in man utd game.Then the home game against chelsea he should be drop.
Or else,stick with him till after chelsea,and see how it goes.
I feel that santon should be starting against those lower bottom table clubs first,lessen the risk. 😉
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
I’d stick with Raylor for now. Its not every week he’ll play the likes of Man City.
Maybe Santon isnt quite ready yet…
mark(Quote)
Would be harsh to drop the kid, but like I said yesterday, we would be sitting on 26 points the day were it not for his mistakes.
Also the fact we lose in attack when Jonas tracks back to cover him.
Have we been blinded by success with regards to Raylor?
Maybe next Saturday could answer that question.
Yesterday apart, its been hard to knock the lad but maybe his LB caretaker role will be taken from him in the games that really count. Shame really
skipwallsend(Quote)
aye King Kenny defo knows his ****. Carroll, Henderson and Downing didnt start 2day.. waste of money..
mark(Quote)
Toonsy…I reckon you have hit on two seperate issues here.
I reckon we all know that Santone is earmarked for one of the defensive positions, it’s just a matter of time. I reckon Raylor is only playing cos Santone isn’t ready yet. As Mark mentions, Raylor should get a start against Manure irrespective of his city performance, cos he’s fully up to speed with the prem…
Munich Mag(Quote)
@skipwallsend
but in the same breath u cud say we wouldnt have the pts we have now if it wasnt for his goals and decent defending in the meanest defences in the league.
mark(Quote)
i think RAYLOR should be placed in right back in place of simpson and bring in santon in left back
ROSHAN MAGPIE(Quote)
i rekon,simpson will be off in january and raylor will take over RB.
bindipping tw@ts
hitman(Quote)
We should defo get something out of the Chelsea game. Yes, theyer up there with us but they look out-of-sorts at the minute.. oooh 2-1 l’pool Glen Johnson
mark(Quote)
when u think of all the hype with Carroll going to L’pool and Torres going for 50mil, neither started 2day. give me crocked knees bargain-bin Ba any day 😆
mark(Quote)
I would stick with taylor he has had an amazing season and to drop him over a bad performance against the team that will probs win the league would be harsh if not silly , however i would accomodate Santon i would like to see either Taylor stay at left back and Santon take Simpsons place or Taylor go to rigth back and Santon go to left back either way i think if there is a weakness in the defense i think it is Simpson not Taylor .
And i agree you cant underestimate his dead balls and freekicks they are some of the best in the league .
keith(Quote)
Mark
Yeah ya right. It’s a paradox isn’t it?
I dunno to be honest. He’s been great so far but can he perform like he has so far, against man u and chelsea?. I don’t think he could yesterday and to be honest, it might have just been a bad day at the office. Look how well he played against spurs attack. Like the post says, is it time to try santon or stick with raylor? I honestly don’t know. We need Jonas for both his attacking and defensive abilities but to me, we need the attacking Jonas next Saturday and man u may be too strong for Taylor on his own,
skipwallsend(Quote)
Torres and Carroll getting worse every game rotting on the bench.
DJG(Quote)
I dont think playing Santon is a gamble really. I would bring him in. Such a quality player, needs a run in the 1st team.
The 59 sound(Quote)
Neither will get anywhere near the goals of Ba this season, what a smart move from our lot.
DJG(Quote)
Stick with rt as come jan we will need him if we sell on Simmo. Besides, one bad game compared to some decent ones has to be half expected. I recall shearer going 8 england games without a goal.
Craig chisholm(Quote)
I’ve been trying not to criticise raylor – he has done nothing wrong tho im not convinced he has been playing well, more like no major ***** ups and we’ve been winning and of course be scored, and had thought that Santon should simply do enough in training for pardew to drop raylor and play santon …….. however, i think the key point is that we aren’t seeing enough of guttierez going forward .. when obertan plays, its ok as we bomb on with him … but when he isnt playing, altho Sammi did well yd, we cannot afford for guttierez attacking to be compromised by his protecting raylor .. so personally, i think it is time for santon and time to drop raylor …… having said that, i think that raylor and simpson then fight it out for right back .. simpson needs to sing up or do one
TOONPIPES(Quote)
@Skip
I feel he just had an off-day y’day. He’s been great up 2now. If he was dropped i think it would be pretty un-just and will damage his confidence. He’s tried really hard to be where he is at the toon and to undo all of that for 2 mistakes would be harsh. I doubt Pards would do it, and perhaps like I mentioned earlier Pards doesnt think Santon is ready yet, if he isnt ready throwing him in against ManU and Chelseas might have greater consequences then playing Raylor.
mark(Quote)
Ryan Taylor has been legendary this season. One poor game against the champions elect and ppl are forgetting the missile that sunk Everton and the goal that KO’d the mackems.
DJG(Quote)
No place for sentiment, Ryan Taylor has done well but has been an accident waiting to happen, its not his fault as he is being played out of position but its time for Santon to come in for me.
Robert(Quote)
judas looked s hite again when he came on falling all owah the place .. give em 5 mill for him and bring him back
TOONPIPES(Quote)
has guttierez been that restricted like? Fair enuf y’day he didnt get down the wing but previous games hes been getting forward, as has Raylor.
Maybe because our middle men get forward more, guttierez and his willingness to run all day is being utilised by tracking back more. It could be a new tactic because of our new players.
Cabaye did mention after his goal that he was allowed to get forward more than previous gams so it could be tactics…?
mark(Quote)
Stick with him. We lost yesterday to 2 penalties. We had chances of our own but only put one away. Ryan Taylor Made one mistake he can learn from yesterday. The hand ball really could have happened to anyone and is just bad luck.
City had 64% of possession yesterday surely that sort of possessiveness of the ball would mean they are likely to craft out more chances and ask many questions of our defence. We had two penalties against us and yes a blunder from Ryan Taylor but who in our defence has not had one that has cost us a Goal.
One could argue that if the team held on to the ball better and the midfield played better city would not have asked that many questions of our defence and thus less opportunity for one of our defenders to blunder.
He is part of a 4 man defence that is level best after 12 games surely we cannot expect him to play without mistakes. He also poses an attacking threat which against Everton won us the game and against Sunderland won us the game. Let us not forget this. 1 defeat in 12 against mega spending top of the table, unbeaten man city and people start talking about change.
He has my vote of confidence.
Michael12(Quote)
But for me the best answer would be to bring in pieters on jan 01st.
Craig chisholm(Quote)
‘give em 5 mill for him and bring him back’
Why? Let him fester. £35M for a Newcastle reject.
DJG(Quote)
At 3-0 down and only a few minutes to go , Pardew had the perfect opportunity to move Raylor into midfield and give Santon a run out at left back.
Is there a problem with Santon?
We might have to be 3-0 up at Old Trafford with 5 minutes to go before we see Santon.
sidekick(Quote)
If that first penalty shout had been at the gallowgate end and not at Man City the ref would have probably bottled it.
DJG(Quote)
Sidekick, I also wonder what the deal is with santon…. Clearly there is something there that is not right as otherwise he would be playing, he was after all meant to be a direct replacement for Jose. I don’t recall rt dumping Jose out the starting 11 very often.
Craig chisholm(Quote)
Carroll is just a back-to-goal battering ram type striker with little else to his game. Doesn’t suit the way Liverpool play at all they like to attack in numbers and go wide complete waste of money just buying a player for the sake of it.
DJG(Quote)
It isn’t just the bad performance against Man City that matters for me. Raylor has been average or poor defensively in most of the team’s first 12 games. The team definitely has to play differently on the left side because of him as toonsy points out. Jonas plays a much more defensive game except when playing the weakest sides to cover for Raylor who often gets caught out of position and can’t see the opponents attack shaping up. I’m not talking about replacing him immediately if Santon isn’t ready but surely within the next stretch of games Santon has to start getting some playing time. Even 10 or 15 minutes a game will help him enormously. Just playing for the reserves doesn’t cut it in my mind, he has to get some Prem experience as soon as possible. I wouldn’t throw him in against ManU or Chelsea but after that give the lad a chance for at least a few minutes a game!
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Plus when you compare Raylor to players like David Luiz who cost 25mil I think we shouldnt complain.
Fair enuf he’s decent getting forward but what a liability defending and for 25mil.
I think Chelsea are scared to drop him. Luiz and Torres on the bench at 75mil lol. L’pool with Carroll/hendo and Downing on the bench 2day at over 75mil 🙄 😆
mark(Quote)
Although Raylor has up until yesterday not done too badly at LB , the mistakes he made cost us the game and they were 2 terrible mistakes . Every player can have a bad day but a top team would look at dropping the player when his mistakes make it as good as impossible to get back into the game as was the case yesterday .Its time to give the lad a rest and try Santon , after all we did not spend 5 million on him for nothing and he is supposed to have pace so he would bring Jonas more into the game in an attacking sense as well . Raylor would then have the choice of letting his head drop or battle his self back into contention for a recall . As a premiership footballer Raylor should know this would happen at some point and battle back .
Axel(Quote)
Ryan Taylor was unlucky but it could easily have been any other player making those errors.
We were playing a team with quality all over the pitch , multi multi millions worth of talent .
Let’s not forget that Ryan Taylor came in as a make shift left back and who wasn’t exactly what you would call a regular until he was called into taking on a role that was Alien to him.
11 games undefeated of which he’s contributed as good as most, plus actually gaining us the spoils in a few matches.
He possesses better dead ball qualities than most and his throw ins can be an added bonus.
He’s got a great engine and never gives up and always gives 100%.
Santon is a young Italian international with the potential to be exceptional and all things put into perspective, I think he will get his chance when Pardew believes he’s ready for a proper start.
Taking Raylor out of the game based on errors than anybody were capable of making, given the quality he was playing against would decapitate his confidence.
Raylor is an asset to the team and can win us games as he has proved and all teams need a player that appears basic but can pull the rabbit out of the hat in games where we can’t see it happening.
Unless Pardew has told Raylor earlier on that the position is temporary and he can be shifted at any time, then for me, he has to play against Man Utd .
One of our problems in the past was in not sticking with a formula and keeping a regular starting line up at the back and we suffered for it .
This time we have kept it pretty much the same and the results have proved that it works because everyone knows their place and you could see the marshalling in that defence that kept Man City at bay and Kept Tim Krul from going grey.
Keep raylor in? YOU BET.
wolfie(Quote)
Long term I would prefer to see Santon played at RB. He was signed to replace Jose at LB but he’s not really a LB he just can fill in there. Play ppl in their proper positions long term IMO golden rule number one.
DJG(Quote)
Raylor on right mid if oba isnt fit, then extra cover on the right for simmo and santon in the left protected by jonas
O1R7D(Quote)
I think the topic headline is not quite correct. Why would it be a gamble to play Davide Santon. The lad has played for Inter Milan, Italy U21 and been described as the next Maldini. I don’t see how playing full back for Newcastle should be a big deal. Having said that Raylor has had his second poor game of the season (QPR the other) and we are discussing if he should be rested.
Football manager on PS3 has a lot to answer. Stay supportive of the lads and we will move forward together
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Also on the topic of dropping players Pardew has said Tiote and Obertan will be fit for manure , will be interesting to see who he picks for that one , Guthrie , Cabaye ,Tiote . Its going to be hard to drop any of them 3 .
Axel(Quote)
Wolfie yeah agreed mate. Plus could clearly see that he was gutted at his errors when he was walking off. I know ha has a sort of downtrodden look about him but he looked even more glum than usual yesterday. 🙂
DJG(Quote)
Lets be honest fellow Newcastle fans, yes the lad had a bad day at the office yesterday, but does playing one bad game mean we drop Ryan Taylor, i dont think so, he has done really well so far, in fact he has done that well, that David Santon, has not been able to get in the team at left back, and also we wont be meeting many teams with the quality on man city this season, ben arfa played really well yesterday, but give away a penelty, and i bet a lot of fans are hoping he starts the next game, they wont be thinking he should be droped for giving away the penelty, so i think we shold apply the same logic with Ryan Talyor. Howay the lads.
Eamon Mc Parland(Quote)
The whole point I think is that everyone seems to agree that when Jose left and Raylor was thrown in at left back it was a temporary move. Yes the team has had a tremendous start to the season and in a few games, especially against weak teams he had decent games, especially against sides that didn’t press him when he had the ball. But clearly Santon was brought in for a reason, to be a starting full back, either left or right. To get to the point where he can start he has to start getting some playing time and this is where I don’t understand Pardew. Is Santon hurt? Is his attitude bad? What is going on? If Perch can occassionally get some minutes of playing time and clearly he has no future in the side then why doesn’t Santon get some time? There has to be more to this story than we are being told I believe. Hopefully it is not a long term injury or serious attitude problem or we had better start looking at Pieters again.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Toby le Rhone
There must be something wrong in training. If he was that good then Pardew would be picking him so he obviously isn’t is he. After the cup game Pardew said that he needed to adapt to the rough and tumble of english football, there were a few times when he stopped, expected to win a free kick but the ref just played on and it left us exposed.
DJG(Quote)
Not sure he should be dropped for having one bad game. On the other hand I expect Santon is a better player than him and he needs to play. What are we missing out on with Raylor in the side? Could we be better?
Stuart79(Quote)
I like how Raylor usually just knows when to get rid and he has good passing ability. Jose used to fanny about with the ball at the back far too often and try to be too clever.
DJG(Quote)
One last crack at this for me. Santon has to get some playing time unless he is hurt or is just not willing to fight hard for a position. If not we are wasting our time thinking about him and we need to start looking at another full back. I hope Carr is looking around if there is a real problem with Santon. The longer the season goes without Santon getting any playing time at all, the more the rumours will begin to circulate that he has a problem and isn’t the great signing we all hoped he would be.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
aye if perch can get some game time and santoon carnt there must be somthing up..
hitman(Quote)
There’s definately something not right. He could have got on at RW and Sammy Ameobi and Dan Gosling got a chance ahead of him. I don’t think we will see him until Raylor or Simpson get injured and then we might get to see whats up.
DJG(Quote)
@DJG
Play ppl in their proper positions long term IMO golden rule number one.
like Gareth Bale 😆
mark(Quote)
Have to agree DJG. An injury at either full back position will be a big indicator of what’s up. If Perch goes in, or even someone like Gosling we will know there is a serious problem with Santon. Not that I want to see any more injuries. We have enough to deal with already. Four teams just behind us with 22 points now and Tottenham has 2 games in hand (1 after tomorrow). Tiote could be massive for us against ManU or Chelsea although he was very rusty at the start of the season when he missed some time so ease him back in carefully Pardew.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I cant believe some are questioning if there is a problem with Santon . UP untill yesterday there was no reason to drop eithier fullback . The defence has been outstanding as a unit , the lad has not had a chance to break into the side . As for playing him as a winger ,why ? he is a defender and look at how many midfielders we have at the club . Or would there be something wrong with Sammy or Gosling if Santon was picked ahead of them yesterday ? and if there was something wrong with the lad then why was he on the bench? and although i think Raylor has been doing a good job untill now , those 2 mistakes yesterday should signal the call into the team for Santon . They were very bad errors , every defender should know not to stretch their arms out in the penalty area like he did .
Axel(Quote)
Santon has played as a winger for Inter Milan. Would kind of suggest he could play there for NUFC ahead of youth and squad players.
DJG(Quote)
The ball was blasted at Taylor from two yards. He didn’t have time to move his hands out of the way. Yes, some players put their hands behind their backs when someone is lining up a shot in order not to give the ref any excuse. That to me is an unnatural position that you shouldn’t need to adopt just because of the vagaries of refereeing decisions. Some people say Taylor should not have been standing with his arms out. However, his arms were no more than shoulder height. High or low, they block the same amount of the goal. Usually if you hold them lower, there is more chance of the ball hitting them. I think it is right that ball to hand at close range should not be a penalty. We all take our hands and arms onto the field; they have to go somewhere. Besides, the rule is that it must be “deliberate” handball.
I thought he was unlucky for the Richards goal; its hard to see what else he could have done in terms of his two touches. Perhaps he could have had a slightly better starting position.
He used to worry me like hell, but he has improved quite rapidly and is learning all of the time.
That said, if Santon looks the real deal in training, I would expect a good manager to wield the axe on Taylor because there is no room for sentiment. Is Pardew ruthless enough, however? I think he is.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
‘Davide Santon (born 2 January 1991 in Portomaggiore, Ferrara) is an Italian professional footballer who plays for Premier League club Newcastle United, and for the Italian national team. He started his career as an right sided attacker later reverting to an attacking full back who can play on both sides and is known for his energetic runs down the flank.’ wiki
DJG(Quote)
DJG fair point i did not know he played their for Inter , as for playing their ahead of youth or squad players . He himself is still young and part of the squad 😉
Axel(Quote)
DJG
I like how Raylor usually just knows when to get rid and he has good passing ability. Jose used to fanny about with the ball at the back far too often and try to be too clever
It was that what cost us the killer second goal. And the fact he looked at the ball then looked away and had the chance to clear it with his strongest foot but dilly dallied like you say Jose did, but be honest with all the dallying I’d rather have Jose over Raylor all day.
Yesterda I was very sure we should drop him but now I read that there must be something up with santon it does make you think.
And to the “R you’re forgetting he scored against the mackems and everton” brigade no we’re not I love Raylor for those contributions but defensively (You know, a defender’s job?) he’s just been well protected by the Gut and babysat by Colo. If the Gut was injured I bet he would get found out before 11 more games he compromises Gut to f*ck he’s going to burn out soon he looks knackered
Noo-Carstle(Quote)
Did I read an article recently about Liverpool being interested in Raylor for big money in January?
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
the question is:we continue to play defensive,like the first half,with “big opponent”?or we prefer the second half attacking play who cause promblems and show us willigness to win?
flokos13(Quote)
He might have ‘won’ us a few points, but he ‘lost’ us a realistic chance of getting something out of the game. It is not the first time this season he has looked more than a bit dodgy and it is fair to say Guti is lost to us as a persistent attacking force as he has to cover for Raylor so much (which is a huge factor in people being fooled into thinking he is actually a good left back).
I like the lad. He’s a tryer and very versatile, but 1st team regular in the top 8 sides of the Premiership he is not. Well worth keeping as a squad player though and cannot fault his professionalism and attitude, which are 1st class.
Santon has it all defensively (Italy international, Inter Milan pedigree bred by Mr Negative football himself Jose Mourinho) and will actually get forward with pace. Can you imagine how dangerous Guti will be when he does not have to constantly worry about defending and can get on with running at pace against the opposition full backs all day long? Especially with Santon backing him up. It will add a new dimension to our side and make us more of an attacking force (with negates the need to defend so much). I can see far more goals coming from us with this line up than if Raylor was in the side scoring the odd free kick… We know Cabeye can hit them too, so it’s not like his free kicks are irreplaceable.
Also what will Santon think if he cant get a game despite the guy taking his position having an absolute nightmare? His morale will plummet. Fair enough if you play well you keep your place, but if you **** up you pay the price. Especially if there is an Italian International chomping at the bit to replace you ffs!
Shamrock(Quote)
when you sit back its matter of time for mistakes.when you dont change your tactic and play your football with no pressure maybe you make upsets?
flokos13(Quote)
B & B, he should have known a shot would be coming in from that position and I think he did. That is why his goalside arm went up. It was a blatant, intentional c@ck up of the highest order.
Shamrock(Quote)
SHAMROCK it was a very nice analysis.you cover me fully.
flokos13(Quote)
He should stay in the team
Liam southern toon(Quote)
Richards offside for the second goal anyone ? Have a look at the highlights….
Munich Mag(Quote)
we cant blame the officials MUNICH MAG.only the mentality of our team in this specific game.we couldnt chnge five passes in the first half!!!!!!!
flokos13(Quote)
we didnt take our chances and got punished.when will we ever learn to keep hold of the ball instead of giving it away cheaply,happening far too often,we all know ryan is not a left back and will get found out. need one in january as well as i striker
bazza(Quote)
Shamrock/Noocarstle – I disagree. People keep saying Guti is being held back more than last season, Raylor is being protected by Guti, etc. – who cares? It’s working. Our results against the same teams last season with Guti ‘free’ to bomb up and down the pitch were worse.
Your theory that by taking Raylor – a goalscoring defender off the pitch – we will have more goals in the side is a stretch. Keep the finishers in the side, we are already lacking in that department.
Regarding a defeat against the third best team in Europe atm as an acid test, is a mistake. Ba didn’t score from three clear-as-you-like chances, but I haven’t read any calls to drop him against manyooo.
boater(Quote)
Talking about LB their is Ferguson that could be given a chance as well . Santon for RB when Simpson leaves in january , he still has not signed a new contract and i read today that fat sam wants him at westham .
Axel(Quote)
I have mixed opinions on dropping Raylor. The lad has impressed greatly out of position and he seems to play better there than at his preferred RM tbh. Though Guitierrez does help a bit too much. You don’t see Obertan do that so much with Simpson. We miss Gutierrez’s runs forward and winning us free-kicks. But I think against Man City Pardew just told him to do help much more, just tactics me thinks.
He has done really well until that match though and I ultimately feel it would be too harsh on him to drop him. If during or after the Man U match he is under-preforming then I would drop him for Santon.
I have been craving to see Santon playing as the kid looks so composed and classy for a defender. I would just give Raylor one more chance and then play Santon and in January sign another defender or two. We need more quality cover there urgently.
I think that we are just 2 defenders (LB, CB), 2 midfielders (DM, RW), 2 forwards (ST, FC) away from being a top 4, top 6 team.
We are a really young, talented and promising cohesive team that is only 6 players away from being at the top with the big boys for a very long time.
We must keep Pardew and not lose any of our stars along the way and buy what I’ve mentioned to realistically challenge in Europe and the league comfortably. The team is now UNITED and we must keep our stability that is essential.
PS. Sorry for the very long post 😉
JP…from The Rock(Quote)
flokos13
I wasn’t blaming the officials for our defeat. 🙄 🙄
I was asking the question of whether Richards was perhaps offside for the second goal.
Munich Mag(Quote)
MUNICH MAG – Richards cut in from the wing into midfield to rob the ball of Raylor and fire into the net in a flash. It was terrible and lazy defending from the lad and you can’t really blame him when it really isn’t his natural position. The schoolboy error did remind me of the horrid defending we were all sadly used to witness from our troops not so long ago. We are a much more solid team defending right from the front. It was fantastic to see Ba at 90+ minutes still chasing the ball as if his life depended on it when we were seconds away from losing 3-1. That brilliant team ethic that Pardew has instilled in the team will go a very long way to determine our success. I am really proud of my team these days and I have’t felt like this since the great Sir Bobby days, long may it continue 😀
JP…from The Rock(Quote)
Boater who you going to replace him with? Shola? Injured Best? No wait Mcloven because he scored against forest? Ba may not have scored a goal but did he cost us one? Which of their goals was Ba’s fault?
The 3rd pen was a dive to me and I’m glad benny was back there trying to tackle because Staylor was off the pitch.
By your raylor logic if we put a better defender in there and let guti do the same work defensively then surely we will be more solid? Concede less? I can’t take away his goals in the prem and the one against Scun7horpe but apart from those, his set pieces have been below par and what happened when Cabaye got a shot he cracked it in. But your ‘keep doing what we’re doing’ logic leave ben arfa on the bench?
Noo-Carstle(Quote)
JP Rock ..yeap agree, genuinely felt proud yd the keep fighting and trying ,, we were without 3 key first team starters which against man city is just too much
TOONPIPES(Quote)
fuk them 😆 MM I hope your not causing any **** 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Is that B&B still trying to convince people he’s right. 😯
I’m sure he’s got OCD which manifests itself by continuously saying the same thing over and over again. 😛
You are wrong. Accept it and move on. 😛
Hello Tinpoops. Still happy with the regime and Lambias’ recent gaffe? 😛
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Obertan and Tiote are going to be fit to play against manure and with the shift Guthrie , cabaye and HBA put in its going to be a very interesting line up against manure . Their are going to be a couple of very unhappy midfielders sitting on the bench .
Axel(Quote)
It’s no good people saying Santon should be brought in for Raylor.
How does anyone know how he is doing in training ?
Surely the manager and coaches will do so when he’s ready as they train with him daily.
Troy Stavers(Quote)