Will we be waving bye bye to Ba in the summer?

Ba listening to offers?
I think it’s fair to say that Demba Ba has been a revelation for Newcastle United so far this season.

In fact I think it’s even fair to say that what I just wrote is a bit of an understatement.

Don’t get me wrong, I was one of the people who looked at his record and knew he would score goals for us, but even I didn’t expect him to score as many as he has done or become as important to the team as he has been already this season.

Naturally when a player hits the kind of form that Demba Ba was in before his trip to Africa, clubs will start to take notice. I’m on about real big hitters here that play in the Champions League. This appears to be the case with Ba, although old Harry Redknapp had a helping hand in intensifying the speculation with his public revelation of a clause in Ba’s contract.

Whilst a lot of that has died down since Demba revealed that he had no intention of leaving Newcastle in the January transfer window, I’ve started to wonder if his commitment to Newcastle United is as long term as fans would like. I’m getting the feeling that Ba himself is eyeing a summer move but I sincerely hope that I’m wrong on that score.

You see on one hand Ba does seem to enjoy it here. He is scoring goals in a team that is in the higher reaches of the league with the possibility of pushing for Europe over the final 16 games of the season. We’ve also just spent an awful lot of cash bringing his international team-mate and good friend Papiss Demba Cisse to the club, so there are definite reasons for him to stay.

On the other hand there are Ba’s overtures about Paris Saint-Germain and his admission that he would love to play for his boyhood club, who now have the finances to make an offer that Newcastle probably won’t refuse. There is also that talk from Philippe Auclair who claims that he knows Ba’s advisers well and insists there is some kind of “specific plan” in place regarding his future. Then there are Ba’s own words to consider. Quick to quash rumours of a January departure, the same can’t be said for any hint of commitment beyond the summer. Pretty much everything Ba has said has involved not going beyond the summer, which is a concern.

Now I’ve kind of gone past all of this badge kissing, chest beating, tubthumping talk. I don’t buy it anymore and I’d be suspicious if Ba turned round and said all is well and he loves it here etc etc. Basically along the same lines as what Andy Carroll said. Because of him pretty much everything that a footballer says these days is sprinkled with liberal helpings of salt as I listen to it.

Of course we all know what happened with Andy Carroll so perhaps Ba is just trying to avoid backing himself into some kind of corner? Maybe he is boxing clever by being non-committal on his future and is basically neither confirming nor denying any intention? Maybe I’m just being a bit of a fanny and worrying about nothing?

I just can’t help but feel we are a stepping stone for him, unless we can get him to sign a new deal now that he has proved his worth to the team. The problem with that is you then have to consider his knees which by all accounts could go at any moment. Mind you, they’ve been fine so far and a knee or anything could go at any time with any player I guess so…

What do you think?

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158 thoughts on “Will we be waving bye bye to Ba in the summer?

  1. @Wolfie. does your lass ever listen to your stories m8 or do you get shown the hand at the flicker of your lips moving to unlease a single word 😆

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  2. MARK, she creases up sometimes and other times she just shales her head and goes, EEEEEEEEEE what are you like . 😆

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  3. Normally Mark I come home and tell her someones died who I know she knows but hasn’t seen for ages hahahahaha

    Naturally I tell her the truth after a few minutes though. 😆

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  4. …extremely off-topic, but it’s Joey Barton so I guess it’s worth a mention.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4095336/Joey-Barton-We-must-accept-openly-gay-footie-stars.html

    …fair play to him for speaking out, but for me I don’t think we’ll ever see players coming out. As socially acceptable as a person’s sexuality is these days I think openly gay footballers would be opening themselves up to an obscene amount of abuse from the terraces. I know if I was a gay footballer I’d keep it well hidden. It’s not called ‘private life’ for nothing. A player’s sexual inclinations have got fk all to do with the game anyway. Should Craig Bellamy announce to the world his penchant for scat bondage? No. Personal life is just that. Personal. Shut up Joey, again.

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  5. @wolfie, ah thats nice, when I talk **** wor lass just stares as if she wants to cave my head in with a sledge hammer, could be the fact she married a bong-eye, slapphead with moobs tho 😕

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  6. ROD, I agree…
    A players life is their life no matter what goes on outside of football.
    All we need to be concerned with is, is he decent player, does he train well, can he do a consistent job for us.
    After than he can cheesegrate his bell end and pour vinegar and deep heat on it for all I care as long as it doesn’t affect his game, which we wouldn;t obviously attribute to him cheesegrating his bell end and pouring vinegar and deep heat on it and we would be liable to say “he’s been on the drink him”. 😆

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  7. Woo hoo hoo hoo 😆

    To be fair to Wolfie, I’ve been howling at your stories today. It’s unusual cos I normally only laugh at my own stories and jokes. 😆

    Well done. 😆

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  8. TROY, I’m just a wacky ******* lol
    Footy’s great to talk about but it’s nice to see wacky stuff and mental stuff posted for a few laughs isn’t it.
    I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but it’a c change at times isn’t it. 😆

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  9. Wolfie@74, I have thought about that quite a few times before I.E. what would my life be like if I had an uncontrollable urge to say what I was thinking all the time, sort of like Tourette’s. It’d certainly have make my life a lot more interesting, but I’d probably be in prison by now.

    I suppose ‘lying’ is different to ‘saying what you’re thinking, and in the case of Tourette’s I think a lot of the trouble sufferers get into is through shouting stuff they’re thinking but don’t actually believe.

    …err, reet, Am gannin off in proppa tangets here like. A think it’s dinner time……

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  10. apparently gay footballers will bend over backwards in the dressing room to get u motivated, even better when theyre deep in the tunnel.

    theyre always looking out for the big tackle when they come in from behind.

    fnar fnar 🙄

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  11. Also I know Toonsy’s not a boring ******* and likes a good bit of daft carry ons which makes life easier .

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  12. ROD, you’re right.
    If people look at it from a different perspective then we can all see that lies come in different categories but equally they are lies nonetheless.

    If an MP lies to his flock, they go crazy if it’s against them but if the same MP lied to gain his flock a fair crack of the spoils of something, he would be applauded as a man of the people doing what was necessary to help. But it’s still a lie.

    April fools. If you had a brother called Eddie and he was only a head…just a head , laid in bed and you ran upstairs on April the 1st and shouted ” Eddie Eddie, it’s a miracle, you can walk, you can walk, please try it Eddie”….so your brother Eddie rolls his head off the bed and mashes his face on the floor and you shout “April fools, April fools” he’s not gonna take that too lightly is he but after all it was a joke and a lie within that joke. 😆

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  13. Reuters:
    Reports in today:
    We can confirm that Chelsea have secured the signing of midfielder Cheick Tiote from Newcastle.
    The fee is believed to be £486 million.

    Looks like they got him. 😯

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  14. @Troyore wooo hoo hooo and to think I saved your *** from getting banned and have gone lightly on you today 😉 😆

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  15. Poor old SSN, they must be sooo pissed off ,nothing to get excited about .All they got is the Scum getting rebuffed by Bolton for the Davies bid and Billy sharp off to the saints 😆 serves em right , gossip mongers that they are.

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  16. Well lets look at the history of it. He walked out on Hoffenheim, to go and fail a medical at Stoke. Then he went to Wet Spam, who put a lot of faith in him and he made sure that if they went down there was a stinking great clause that could let him leave for nothing! It’s clear that the lad has his head screwed on and it wouldn’t suprise me at all if there is a clause to let him leave if a certain number is reached by a biding club. This is an african player with probably an african agent and nothing would suprise me.

    Of course we could probably reduce the risk by signing him a partner like Cisse and improving his contract and it seems like that is what the club are doing.

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  17. Rodz

    The bouncing butterfly is like a cockroach .

    I’ve tried to swat him like Tinpoops and Thud but he could survive a nuclear blast. 😛

    You ok Mark? 😛

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  18. This thing is as well a £7M buyout clause (it’s been reported to be in that region) seems rediculous now but at the time he was signed to little fanfare and very much as ‘back-up’ almost. Ashley would have thought it represented good profit on a season and who would have thought he would score 15 goals by Jan. 😕

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  19. Not yet TROY but I’ve just came off the phone to Mike and Derek and they say there’s a few coming in before the window shuts.
    Naturally they told me not to mention any names but said the fees all come to just under 23 million including the Cisse deal, so I did say between 20/25 million so that’s not bad. 😀

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  20. DJG, I would think it would be a sell on clause related to us being relegated. I cannot see the club having a sell on fee just for the sake of it.

    I could be wrong mind but I can’t see it being as simple as just releasing him if someone puts in a 7 million bid just like that.

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  21. DJG@110, got to admit I was one of Ba’s slaters early on. After watching him play his first game for us I thought he was ****, and thought he was no better than Shola. To be fair though, he was **** in his first game and was obviously affected by Ramadan.

    …having said that, does anyone know if Cisse is Muslim? That would effectively leave us weakened up front for a month each season. ❓

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  22. hmmm… Ramadam and ACoN. Maybe this is why the ‘big guns’ didn’t touch them.

    Rodz. Ramadam changes every year I think. So it’s like a game, guess when our strikers will be poor. 😛

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  23. DJG, I’d hazard a guess that he is Muslim, can’t find anything on the net on him, but I have discovered Ramadan 2012 will start on Friday, the 20th of July and will continue for 30 days until Saturday, the 18th of August so I guess they’ll only be below par for a week.

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  24. SHARPY@114, funny you should ask that because on another occasion I was sat on his knee waiting for him to finish his fish and chips so he could tell me a story. He always left me the skin off his tail end in those days. 😉

    Anyway, I said, “Grandad, did you ever play football when you were a prisoner of war” and he said “aye son”…I said ” wow Grandad, what position did you play”, he said ” centre back”, I said ” Grandad, you should play for Newcastle NOW because we need you as Saylor is out injured”….which was weird for me to say because I was only 5 at the time and Saylor wasn’t even the salt in his fathers ball bag. 😯

    Anyway, Grandad told me about hatching a plot to get out by forming a football team, this was the time that he got caught again for the fart hitting his Dr Martens.
    Apparently he played the Germans and Hitler was there and a few French resistance had dug under the bath ready for them to escape when the match was over.

    He said one of the French blokes looked like Yohan Cabaye, so I asked him what the French blokes name was and he said ” his name was Johan Cabaye” I said ” you know what Grandad, I bet that was Cabayes great grandad”….it’s weird how things like this pan out like isn’t it. 😯

    Anyway , they won the Germans and Hitler was furious, right pissed off he was, infact he was in a right Fuhrer.

    I was in awe and listened intently, even though I was munching on the skin of his tail end.

    I’ve persuaded Grandad to phone Mike up and offer his services at centre back and they’re haggling on his wages.
    Grandad wants 2 ounces of St Bruno ready rubbed pipe tobacco and a box of swan vestas a week but Ashley has offered him 2 ounces but thinks a clipper lighter will suffice plus a small can of Ronson gas which will be more cost effective.

    More news later but it’s looking promising. 😆

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  25. Troy, I had a pop at Cabaye as well. In fact I think I can remember you agreeing with me when I said he was a **** Emre 😯 😆

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  26. wooo hoo hooo

    Troyore trying to redeem himself after his Cabaye bashing.. too late m8.. ganning off history and al that..

    @wolfie, youre grandad is my new hero, Troyore was ditched ages ago 😆

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  27. @Rodz

    No no no. I would have said he reminded me of **** Emery the comedian but not as funny. 😛

    To be fair, anyone who didn’t slag Ba off after his first game is clueless. He looked terrible.

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  28. Troy I think a lot of fans, myself included, put players under ridiculous expectations to have a blinder on their first game. That said though, the criticism can usually be avoided if the team wins. Any player we sign is always gona be hyped up to the max before their first game, rendering nothing short of a perfect hat-trick worthy of a lambasting for anyone in an attacking role.

    I think if we won on Ba’s debut, he wouldn’t have received a fraction of the slating he got.

    …where’s this fking defender anyway Toonsy? 😯

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  29. Aye Troyore, u definately were the only one backing Ba

    “”Anyone seen anything of Demba Ba lately? He’s been missing since he arrived at the club.

    No goals . Tut tut.

    All those who thought it was good business must be sweating.
    😉

    wo hoo boing boing

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  30. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9501246.Newcastle_United_star__Nile_Ranger__to_face_two_court_hearings/

    Quality journalism, it’s the little things that count. Thank sweet baby Jesus the reporter told me “….Ranger who wore his hair in a knot, left court with a woman aged around 20 who wore grey trousers and a pale top.”

    …just doesn’t bear thinking about what the implications could’ve been, had the young lady in question been sporting a dark tank-top. 😯

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  31. @rodz

    I know. The bouncing butterfly compared Cabaye to Fabragas after 30mins of his debut.

    He nicknamed him Fabaye. 😆 😆 😆 😆

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  32. Wolfie – that’s wasn’t your grandad on Escape to victory was it?!

    I’ve been watching SSN all day and there is absolutely no suggestion at all that anyone is coming in… on a plus note, there is also no suggestion of anyone leaving either.

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  33. Players come and go. But I really would like to see the club offer him a new deal and get rid of this buy-out cause.

    Losing Ba for 25M- disappointing, but terricfic business
    Losing Ba for 7.5M- a disaster of epic porportions

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  34. Aye SHARPY, that was me Grandad, I didn’t want to mention it for fear of being called a big head. 😀

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  35. @Trot

    do u still think it was bad business signing Ba? 🙂

    just been reading old posts.. absolutely hilarious watching Thad with his grey jumper on, clothes-lining Troy every time.. lol who’d da man!!

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  36. I think signing Ba has turned out to be the best piece of business done out of any transfers by any clubs this season without a doubt.

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  37. Sharpy, they’re proper clutching at straws with non-stories. There seems to be ****** all happening this window. Mancini, Ferguson and Dalglish have all said nothing will be done this window, but I’ve learnt to think the opposite of what clubs say these days.

    Troy, who started off ‘Dreamboat’ anyway? I’m sure it was Toonsy. I see it everywhere these days!! 😆 😀

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  38. @Rod

    I hate that Dreamboat tag, really sickening, a Geordie bloke from the toon can view a player as a Dreamboat 🙄 young’uns are totally gay! 😯

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  39. @The bouncing butterfly

    Uh bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Oh Barbara Ann)
    Oh, bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Barbara Ann)

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann

    Went to a dance looking for romance
    Saw Barbara Ann so I thought I’d take a chance with Barbara Ann

    (Barbara Ann)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Barbara Ann)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Barbara Ann)

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann

    Tried Betty Sue
    Tried Peggy Sue
    Tried Betty Lou but I knew she wouldn’t do
    Barbara Ann, Barbara Ann

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Barbara Ann)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Take my hand)
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    (Barbara Ann)

    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Barbara Ann
    Bah bah bah bah Barbara Ann

    Barbara Ann
    Barbara Ann
    Barbara Ann

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  40. Ba ba ba ba Demba Ba
    You got me rockin’ and a rollin’
    Rockin’ and a reelin’ Demba  Ba
    Ba ba ba ba Demba Ba

    Oooo ooo ooo ooo oo

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  41. Mark@135, I don’t even think he’s that fit. I’d rather have Guthrie, he’s proper dishy (swooon)

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  42. MARK@135,I agree about this dreamboat ****, I mean he’s not exactly special looking is he and to be honest I just go all slack when I see him now. 😆

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  43. @Rodzilla 😆 I prefer Tiote but I dont think I have a pillow long enuf to fit his muckle knapper, pillow talk is everything to me 👿

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  44. ROD, Guthrie, yuck , he reminds me of Fireman Sam or Dan Ackroyd but with salami.
    Now Danny Simpson is a different bulge in the Y fronts. ( sits dreaming with hands on cheeks). 😉

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  45. aye Whumpie, it was Troy the ****-shoot cosmanut, talking about Cabaye being a dreamboat thats all m8.. totally gay I know 😉

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