Has your opinion of Mike Ashley changed?

A changed man?
Again I see The Chronicle has had one of its “I told you so” kind of digs at fans of NUFC.

It’s baffling considering that the following of NUFC is the bread and butter of The Chronicle but hey ho… Anyway it has provided me with a talking point, and that talking point is Mike Ashley.

I’ve never known one person split so many people to be honest, not at Newcastle United anyway. Some say he is doing a good job, some will never forgive him for past mistakes (or were they?) others just play it by ear and judge each decision as it comes whilst some just plain don’t care as it doesn’t involve that part we all love – the football side of it.

Most people have an opinion on him though, and I’d like to know if this fantastic season has altered the way he is viewed amongst the fans. The Chronicle seems to think so as it reckons that 65% of people they polled are happier with the job he is doing now compared to the one he was doing last season.

Personally I’m not. I recognise that Ashley has achieved some good and has brought relative and unexpected success to us, but the real thing I want to see is a willingness to build on that or even sustain it. I’m not confident in that regard at all.

There is still a lot of mistrust on my part which has been built up over the years, and it will take more than one season to remove that element of doubt. If we can carry on doing what we are doing then it will go a long way towards redemption, but first I have to see if that happens.

So has my opinion of Mike Ashley changed? Nope, although tellingly my view of him hasn’t got any worse, despite the renaming fiasco and advertising being plastered everywhere. It’s all a showcase you know…

What about you though? Have you changed your opinion on Mike Ashley?

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157 thoughts on “Has your opinion of Mike Ashley changed?

  1. Well the only things he got wrong were:

    he came in promising 20m a year of his money invested in the team.

    he brought Keegan back and I don’t know a fan who was wanting him/expecting him back

    Then wise selling milner, no replacement

    wise brought in nacho gonzalez as a favour to south american agent for first dibs on players (who we maybe wouldn’t get work permit for)

    wise brought in xisco, 50k a week

    Keegan hadn’t seen the above play

    JFK as manager (wanted less than keegan and shearer)

    Shearer as manager (same as keegan, no-one wanted him)
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    Other than that, every thing else has been spot on : Selling carroll, barton, nolan

    I’ve personally forgiven him but like always with ashley things go well for a while then something comes out of the blue i.e. stadium renaming

    So basically I’m hoping everything is fine and he doesn’t sell cisse krul tiote and ba.

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  2. I’ve always said that I believed Newcastle were heading for financial meltdown and Mike Ashley’s purchase of NUFC prevented that. You don’t become a billionaire if you’re an idiot. Sure he made some mistakes, he’s only human, and had never run a football club before. But, he is getting there. We, are getting there. And, to be fair it is his money he is putting into the club.
    Howay The Toon – Europe, here we come; once again.

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  3. Forgiven him completely. Relegation was painful but the past three seasons since have been up there with my favourites as a fan. We might not be hitting the heights of Sir Bobby’s reign yet, but we seem to be going in the right direction and have a really likeable team.
    I love Keegan and do believe he was lied to, however he is always prone to walk, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

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  4. My Opinion of Mike Ashley has not changed one bit!!!!!!

    He will always be to me a great man at this club. Greater than Keegan, Shearer and whom ever you care to mention.

    Long may he govern us.

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  5. At the end of the day, the club is in a better position financially, in football terms, stability, youth prospects, the lot, so fair play, well done MA.
    Stadium name change is annoying but noone calls it that so I’ll take the signs for Cisse. Stadiums get knocked down all the time, would we be up in arms if they were going to knock it down to build a bigger stadium? All I care about tbh is what I see on the pitch.

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  6. Ashley has obviously done stuff that has hurt all of us. However, his recent ruthlessness for the sake of success seems to be working, at least this past season. This summer and next year will be pivotal in proving that our current method can be maintained successfully, both on the pitch, and in the club’s ledger

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  7. I agree with you Toonsy it will take willingness to build on what we have done this season for me to change my mind about Mike Ashley.

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  8. He’s made some awful decisions early on and the name change pisses me off too. The adverts I can live with as he has loaned the club £100m interest free which entitles him to some advertising of his company ,which is primarily what he purchased the club for ,that and his love of football . wether we have done well due to a great masterplan or just because we got lucky with signings gelling well and good management ,who knows . The acid test is this summer and we shall see how ambitious MA really is for Newcastle soon enough .Has my opinion changed ,well I don’t hate or like him to be truthful ,he just needs to run the club well and things look good right now, but he does have an history of cocking up just when all is rosy. Ask me again after the transfer window shuts 😉

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  9. He can kill with a smile
    He can wound with his eyes
    He can ruin your faith with his casual lies
    And he only reveals what he wants you to see
    He may look like he’s slimmed,
    But he’ll always be Fatty to me

    Oh–he takes care of himself
    He can wait if he wants
    He’s ahead of his time
    Oh–and he never gives out
    And he never gives in
    He just changes his mind

    He’ll promise you more
    Than the Garden of Eden
    Then he’ll carelessly cut you
    And laugh while you’re bleedin’
    But he’ll bring out the best
    And the worst we can be
    Blame it all on that Owlheed
    Cos he’ll always be Fatty to me

    😎

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  10. …to answer the post in a less musical fashion, I’d say I’ve been on the fence with him since a couple of months into the season. The signings he’s made all, miraculously, managed to hit the ground running.

    Still pissed off about the SDA bollocks, and the corporate vandalism in our hallowed ground, but hey ho, if that’s what he needs to do to bring about huge success to my club then so be it.

    I’m eagerly awaiting the summer transfer window closing to see what we’re left with, and which side of the fence I’m gona fall off into.

    But for now, he’s moderately cool, ish 😎

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  11. I forgive him for some of the poor decisions made coz most were justified and we’re riding high, I don’t entirely trust him 100% yet but what chairman could be trusted 100% not to sell players etc?

    most of my mates have forgiving him..a cpl don’t like talking about him 😀

    Shola divides ppls opinions more than Ashley

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  12. Yeah, all of this “Credit to Ashley for the season”-what, really? We’ve made some outstanding transfers its true, but Ashley’s involvement has just been to stump up the money he had already promised to spend. Should that be notable and praised because its an instance where he hasn’t broken his word?

    It says more about his character that it probably is seen that way….He’s still a fair ****, only thing different now is that he appears to be getting to grips with “running” a football club, at least on the admin side. PR is still gash though…

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  13. Toonsy i think Ashley will build on the success of this season , Lets face it he shelled out 10 million for Cisse in january when no one expected it , yes a couple of players will be sold but not the crown jewels of the team with the exception of Ba . The bloke was clever enough to put them all on 5 or 6 year contracts thus priceing most teams out of the market for them and also i think most of the squad really do sense something big is happening at the club and CL is a real possibility and every player wants that .

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  14. My view of him has certainly changed. Last year I thought he was always a pork pie away from exploding but now I see him as a ryvita away from slimmer of the year.

    Unfortunately we have ridden this crazy thing along with him as he learned the hard way how to get suckered into the ingrained bad practices that are still responsible for scuppering big clubs at this very moment. To turn it around has been like non-elective surgery – painful at times but ultimately necessary. The SDA farce still makes me wince but taking the dark with the light, a brutal business head and a single-minded attitude toward his investment is turning into a success on and off the pitch. On the whole, although he’s not Mr Personality, I think I would rather have him at the helm than a sycophantic obese scrap merchant who butters up the fans in the media while he shovels the dividends into his offshore account.

    In other news, has .org gone the way of our ancestorsinto that black night? or is my internet connection just ****?

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  15. Mark-What do you mean by that though? Saying we’ll finish in the top10 and then doing it, fair enough. But when you consider we could quite easily have made top 10 last year anyway, anything less than that would have been a joke really..

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  16. Tsunki, I can’t access .org either, probably just having server issues.

    …and yeah, although Fatty may have his flaws, we could certainly do a lot worse. A few of my non-Toon mates have changed their Ashley views from those of horror and ridicule to envy over the last year. Mind you, they do support Villa and Everton.

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  17. B1GSTEVE he owns 70% of SD
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/apr/25/sports-direct-mike-ashley-shares

    I didn’t like the lies that were told and the ****-ups that led to relegation but the bloke is a winner and hasn’t really put a foot wrong since then. We came straight back up bankrolled by another £40 million interest free loan and have had 2 good/excellent seasons in the Premier League. The club is financially sound and he we have signed some cracking players. How anyone can not give him some credit for that amazes me. He won’t be on my Xmas card list but I think he is taking the club in the right direction and we are ahead of plan – long may it continue 😀

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  18. I think it is clear that they had no idea whatsoever in how to run a football club when they bought us. That incudes not only the management side, but also the financial and public relations side. With that being said, I think they are definately learning. Also, for whatever his motives mighthave been, we have to be thankful for that interest free loan. We wouldn’t be where we are without it.

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  19. Mind, I think Ashley’s PR has been better of late by virtue of him keeping a low profile and letting Pards & Lambaster talk about him in glowing terms.

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  20. Ashley was a disaster and ultimately cost himself and the club untold millions with his sacking of Allardyce, appointment of KK, Wise, Nacho, Xisco …. we were a complete ****in joke – getting relegated seemed to give him a kick up the **** that was needed (given as he’d completely ignored the fans), he made a good decision in allowing us to keep the core of the squad together which allowed us to get straight back up and has pretty much ran a good ship since.
    The renaming of the stadium sticks in the throat a bit but I agree he’s turned the club around

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  21. Sorry ,off topic but it seems Steven Fletcher of newly relegated Wolves is set to turn down the chance to return to the PL with a move to Sunderland 😆 .Oh dear says it all really .

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  22. Ive changed my opinion.

    I thought he was a right fat fecker, now he’s a skinny fecker!

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  23. Man utd lost £71m in 9 months due to financial obligations imposed by the Glazers ! .You have to say our club model is something special in light of man utds gloomy state of affairs. And that is on top of their £700m debts 😯

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  24. Repost
    Next season PL XI
    —————————Krul————————-
    -Debuchy—S.Taylor–F.Colocinni—Santon-
    —————-Tiote———–Gutierrez————
    ———————–Cabaye————————-
    —-Ben Arfa————————-A.Johnson—-
    ————————Cissé—————————

    Cup games/ Beginning of Europa XI
    —————————Krul/new keeper—————–
    -N.Clyne——M’biwa—-Williamson——Ferguson-
    -Obertan/Sammy-Abeid-Vuckic/Butterfield–Marv–
    —————–J.Rodriguez—-Shola———————

    Opinions? I’ve decided that Ba will be sold, as will Simpson and hopefully Ranger, partially funding the transfers shown, as well as some youngsters that probably won’t get a shot next season.

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  25. KIMTOON would quite like him as back up striker,would really sicken scum if it happened and he came here,i would die laughing 🙂

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  26. Toonsy good one 😆 Jabba is Jabba yeah he has done some good things but for me he has a long way to go to make up for all the **** he has caused. Like you if he continue to build the club then there is a chance that he could turn out to be a good thing for our club. Investing some real money in the club for some top players for next season would be a start, so that we can take advantage of the opportunity that we have with Europe and we need the investment just to maintain or get better than what we are now, because I believe it will be harder next year.
    It would also help if he ripped them shitting signs down and admitted that he wants to keep the name as sports direct arena 👿

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  27. Has he changed (Ashley) sure he’s gotta be at least 15lb. lighter, thats about it folks, people seldom change much.
    Perhaps the question should have been, ‘has he learned anything” ?
    I would say undoubtedly.
    Does he have more to learn ?, undoubtedly.
    Face it , though an astute businessman, who applies the retailers mantra, buy cheap sell for the best price you can get.
    Both he and his mouthpiece/fall guy “Llambias”still have a lot to learn.
    Sure it sounds good to certain ears to hear,,” we are tough guys and refuse to be tacken, in the market for players,”
    Which actually translates into, we cant afford the Eden Hazards or other top players, and can only afford UK players who are free agents..
    It may also surprise some to learn we now have more debt, than three or four years ago (club debt) most of which is owed to Ashley.
    We have had “Sports Direct” with all it’s tacky signs everywhere you look, shoved down the fans throats and replacing the well loved “St. James’ Park” an exercise in greed, that does’nt sit well with anyone.
    “But the question is? has he changed”
    NO !
    I believe he bought the club as an adjunct to sports direct with the intent to use NUFC as both an advertising board and a toy, one that could generate income, both through advertising of his brand, plus change the way football teams operate, one of which we are familiar with.
    Thats being tough nosed in making deals, both in transfer fees and wages (see Simpson)
    Well i believe we got lucky last time, but one cannot expect an assembly line of cheap players replacing those sold for big bucks to continue.
    We dont have a corner of that market and some signings just dont work out, every side experiences that at times.
    The best we can hope for is some decent defensive help and to hang onto our top players, in order to make a good run both in europe and next years cups.
    But we are not yet the finished article as a side and you can be sure that the sides who finished below us, will be regenerating their squads, the L”Pools, Chelsea, and others.
    And this being the end of an era, with no limits on spending, it should be a banner summer with big bucks thrown around, with many EPL sides having to rebuild, following a not too successful season for many.
    It will all become apparent by summers end, which direction our owner decides to take.

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  28. Likewise my opinion hasn’t changed that much – only a little further upwards. Always believed in what he was doing (Houghton aside) He has strength of character and brilliance of mind very few possess (me aside 😆 )

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  29. Andy Mag

    Sure two good sides,
    with the exception of Williamson and Obertan and is Debuchy not a midfielder ?
    Where’s Douglas ?
    Should Johnson not be on the right ?
    Hey we can fanticise !

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  30. I’ve forgiven him. Never before have we had a decent business model, and not one that just involves throwing money everywhere.

    People are nostalgic for the success we had under Freddy Shepherd, but you have to admit we were a big joke towards the end. Did you really want that to continue? We were paying massively over the odds for players, and it was getting us nowhere. Something had to change.

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  31. He is a businessman pure and simple. He will make money out of the club and if we have some success along the way that will suit him as well. Each year will be another adventure and a huge test of Carr and Pardew as we sell some and buy some. I think we will stay in the top 8 but beyond that who knows? Still the team as it stands is very exciting to watch and if we can strengthen more than we lose in sales we may win something in the next couple of years. Would love to see us do well in Europa league because it will increase our earnings and probably cause Ashley to spend a bit more. Still my biggest hope is that we win the FA cup in the next few years.

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  32. GeordieTwo > “He will make money out of the club and if we have some success along the way that will suit him as well”

    Exactly but the success of the club should be his main aim and not a secondary one, and we can’t rely on Carr working wonders all the time because I don’t believe it will work all the time, IMO we were so lucky that the new players settled quickly this season but there is noway he will keep pulling rabbits outta the hat

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  33. I think he has always wanted success for the club. In the past he just listened to awful advice, be that from Wise, whoever on the board, or what he thought the fans would like.
    He’s made a lot of unpopular decisions over the last year and a half when he didn’t need to. They’ve paid off as well.
    I don’t know where FSOTC is atm but i think our success currently is a testament to why fans SHOULDN’T own the club.

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  34. Here’s my two penn’orth (actually more like two thousand pound’orth given the length of this)

    I think for most of us it’s not a simple as “I’ve forgiven him” or “I’ll never forgive him”.
    He bought the club without doing any due dilligence, which many fans on here and at the ground agree looked like a move by ‘Gambler’ Mike, the Ashley that spunks thousands on a single spin of the wheel at Aspers. Stupid move.

    He then made a catalogue of seemingly never-ending mistakes that continued this thoughtless, impulsive behaviour. Keegan, Wise, JFK etc etc etc ad infinitum.
    Disastrous and completely unneccessary.

    Relegation followed, as in hindsight it had to do, and Ashley took an even bigger beating from the fans than before. He got reet arsey about it and tried to sell us at a totally unrealistic price for a club in our position at the time. Desperately trying to claw his wasted millions back. A situation he created through bad business decisions. Hughton appointed as a docile, cheap stop-gap until he sold up.

    Of course we all know what happened next. Fortunes improved massively and unexpectedly, due almost entirely to Hughton’s canny knack for creating a culture of responsibility and professionalism. With no takers for the club, Ashley seemed to reluctantly put his focus back on the club, with a determination to get the club onto a sound financial footing.

    The ultimate success of that season in the championship, coupled with some pride returning to the players and fans, seemed to have a galvanising effect on the former fat man. I really think he bought the club as a football fan (although obviously not as a newcastle fan), and this led to his stupid decisions, because he wasn’t making them as a businessman.

    His apparent falling-out-of-love with the club, after becoming public enemy number 1, is the best thing that could have happened to us. We don’t need a showboating crowd-pleaser in charge. We had that with Fat Fred and he was a ***** of the highest order, as well as bringing us to the brink of insolvency. We needed a smart, motivated businessman, someone to put a plan in place and leave it to others to deal with the ‘fantasy football’ side of things.

    Yes, he p1ssed us all of with the re-naming thing, causing a furore I don’t think he gives the slightest toss about even now. But do we really care? Nobody calls it by his unsavoury name. He’s even admitted he doesn’t care if people call it St James’ or SDA, it’s simply free advertising for him as it’s seen by the cameras all over the world.

    The sale of Carroll was such a huge deal not because we all thought we shouldn’t sell our then top scorer and local hero even for £35m, but because it was too late to bring in a replacement, and then we didn’t spend the money the following summer. Starting the season with no recognised left-back, unproven signings (even Ba had only had half a season. I kept thinking of Michael Ricketts!), and replacing a striker you got £35m for with a free seemed like he was just trying to milk every last penny, it even seemed like he was ‘punishing’ us for giving him grief. Perhaps he was on both counts.

    But does it matter now? He’s clearly fallen back in love with the game, but this time he’s left ‘Gambler Mike’ in the casino. Cold, hard business is what he brings to the club now. Is he ruthless? Yes, of course he is, he’s a multi-millionaire. Is he trustworthy? About as much as a scouser in a hubcap factory. Will he sell our prized assets? To be honest, I think the answer is yes, if he gets a big enough offer. I don’t think anyone is safe. However I don’t think he’ll sell any more than 1 major star in any window, and i think he’ll use the money to replace them. Because I think he no longer wants to sell since he now sees the potential for a successful, profit-making business.

    Do I like the man? Not in the slightest, I think he’s grotesque, tacky, tasteless and in it for himself. But I do think that in luckily stumbling across a world-class management team (Pards, coaches and of course Our Lord Carr) he has seen a winning formula and wants to keep it going, at the same time as making money of course.

    So have I changed my opinion? Absolutely. I despised him and saw him as destroying my beloved club. I still despise the man, but the most incredible thing is I now love the business plan. Selling Krul or Cisse or HBA would be criminal and virtually impossible to replace, and i think he’s smart enough to see that. But if we sell anyone else we have seen that Carr and Pards can identify outstanding players, so I think we could use any astronomical transfer income (which is what he would demand) to bring in players who were at least equal in quality to those going out.

    Who cares if he’s an @rsehole? I’m not going for drinks with him. I just want to watch exciting players, who win more often than they lose, who give us something to look forward to of a weekend, and without the fear of going into administration.

    Mike Ashley, I hope you stay at the club. I hope you keep your feelings out of your business decisions. And I hope you at least pretend to show the fans some respect. We deserve it.

    THE END (and thanks to anyone who made it this far)

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  35. Sorry to come over all troy on you lads but I have found out something massive re transfer for the club.
    All I can say is he is a player none of us have even thought of and plays in the Dutch league but pardew has earmarked him as his number one attacking priority. The euros however and his role in them will decide If he will be in a toon shirt in August or not.
    Fantastic news cant say who or anymore but trust me this is big if it happened. My good friend is a journalist in town and has shown me his contacts information.
    I must stress it hinges on the Euros and on the face of it it will only happen if a player leaves such is the sums we are talking.
    Apparently he has told me also that we are In for a French striker who has a unknown release clause he did not have much to back this up so not sure about that one but interesting none the less!
    Hey ho may not happen but our calibre of player has gone up let me tell you

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  36. LST just lets wait and see,not dis-repecting you hope your right but very often journs get lead down the garden path

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  37. LST
    By ‘plays in the dutch league’ are you saying he himself is Dutch? And is the French striker with the release clause Giroud? 😉 cus as I’ve previously said if we but Debuchy we can’t not buy Giroud as we can’t separate them. 😆
    Dave
    Don’t have twatter so dunno 😉
    Chuck
    Debuchy is France and Montpellier’s RB, as for Douglas he seems fishy to me and apparently the clubs fed up with transfer complications surrounding him.

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  38. Agree(in part) with a few posts, KimT’s, Dave’s and Batty’s, Jim E and a few others.
    Hate some of the things he’s done and will no doubt hate something he does in the future, but I’ll give praise when I think he’s done something good(and he has done a lot) but I’ll also call him all the c@nts under the sun when he does something I don’t like(also alot)… it’ll be my opinion and my right to express it. Has he changed? nope, he’ll royally **** me of again no doubt but he’s also adapting and learning as he goes along, that’s the way life is.

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  39. Aye ice I know he is a good friend but they are all the same! He had me convinced on the Dutch lad and the contact info he showed me was impressive there must be something in it.
    Not sure about the French one so much but lets be honest a striker with release clause sounds right down our alley!

    We will see don’t get hopes up but if it comes off will be incredible

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  40. In future, and I think I speak for everyone, can people that have “huge information that was shown to them by a journalist that knows a contact” just keep schtum.
    None of this dangling news in front of people bull ****, it’s just attention seeking! I almost prefer it when people say they know we are signing so and so based on “contact information”, at least they give a name.

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  41. MF Rafael van der Vaart
    MF Wesley Sneijder J
    MF Mark van Bommel (Captain)
    MF Nigel de Jong
    MF Ibrahim Afellay
    MF Stijn Schaars
    MF Kevin Strootman
    MF Vurnon Anita
    MF Adam Maher
    FW Dirk Kuyt
    FW Robin van Persie
    FW Arjen Robben
    FW Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
    FW Luuk de Jong
    FW Jeremain Lens
    FW Siem de Jong
    FW Luciano Narsingh

    This is the Netherlands preliminary Euro 2012 squad.

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  42. Solano @58 – But it’s all part of the transfer window fun ,don’t you want to be on the fun bus 😀 ❓

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  43. So by my deductions:
    it can’t be RVP/Robben/Kuyt/De Jong/Sneijder/VDV

    Luuk de Jong has been touted quite a bit by the media already so I’m not sure LST would describe the news as “incredible”.

    Same goes for most the rest of the team, unheard of by the majority of us most likely so incredible probably wouldn’t be apt.

    My guess is Liam is referring to Huntelaar or Afellay… ❓

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  44. @Kim I hate it so much! We had people in bouts of depression in January as they believed rumours that players had been sold. Also most of our signings have been out the blue suggesting none of the twitter brigade have any credibility at all.

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  45. Okay my money is on Bas Dost. That really would be exciting (judging on what i’ve read/watched on youtube).
    Can’t believe Man City have got a 20 year player on loan out in the Dutch league that got 20 goals in 23 games!

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  46. Gonna look at dutch league strikers later see if I can suss it out like. 😀

    Andy@53 -I agree with you ,well you know my feelings about signing Douglas ,not keen at all .

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  47. Solano @67- I can . Trouble is they have an embarresment of wealth in regards their playing staff now and seemingly know the price of everything and the value of nothing, as they say. 😉

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  48. Ice the Man City fella or Bas Dost?
    Signing an already pretty developed striker would surely mean Ba’s off. We’re struggling to fit in two strikers as it is, let alone three.

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  49. Perhaps Mike just wants us to score loadsa goals and ****** the defence ! ala KK 😆

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  50. I have the same opinion now as at the start of the season. Try and run the club in a sensible, balanced way. If he has reached his goal of self sufficiency and the debt is being reduced then it is a thumbs up from me.

    The haters will always be haters.

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  51. Solano I hate it as much as the next guy but I’ve got to keep quiet on this. Really think it could happen.
    It is a tease but lads just excited can’t not say anything! All will say Is none of us have thought of him which is exactly how we do our business

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