I’ll quote it all below, but essentially what Alan Pardew is saying is that Liverpool won’t recoup what they paid for Andy Carroll, and I don’t think anyone in a sane frame of mind would be able to deny that.
The reaction from a fair amount of Liverpool fans is that Alan Pardew should not be saying such things, with some even likening his comments to something Harry Redknapp would do, or, if we cast our minds back a little bit further and take off any red tinted glasses that may still be being worn, what Liverpool might have done with Andy Carroll (who knew what terms he was going to be offered prior to asking for a payrise at Newcastle and used an agent hired by Liverpool to conclude the deal, allegedly) or Jose Enrique, who if you recall was a “done deal” months before the transfer was finalised leaving Enrique to play **** for the remainder of his Toon career.
Anyway, this is what Pardew had to say, and what has caused some of the reaction amongst Liverpool fans:
“John Madejski used to say to me about certain players, ‘Just wipe your nose and move on’, and I think Liverpool are going to have to do that with Andy. I think it was obvious as soon as Brendan went into Liverpool that Andy’s time was going to have to be somewhere else. I think it’s quite right we’re involved in that.”
“Whether he comes here is something that I will take or I will leave. It’s a lot of money for Mike, although we’ll obviously be getting a big upside in terms of what we sold him for, and we’ve got three great strikers here already. But of course as the manager, I want the best players I can get.”
I’ll ask again, what is actually wrong with that?
I mean this wouldn’t have come about but for the comments of Andy Carroll’s own manager who pretty much put him in the shop window. The problem is the shop window is full of damaged goods that only might come good again.
At the end of the day we’ve bid, and we’re still in for him according to Pardew himself, which is why he is being asked questions by journalists and why he is answering them, in my opinion, truthfully.
Anyone see a problem with that?
team gb winning 1nil like,big fk deal 😐
icedog(Quote)
Half time 0 -0 in the Milk Cup Final
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Ice…aye, I’m watching that one.
richietoon(Quote)
Well I hope Carroll does go to London then.
We haven’t seen a player prepared to have a bit of a cry or wear a pair of plastic tits since Gazza.
All they want to do these days is buy Bentleys, spitroast girls and act a bit rapey.
Pootle(Quote)
Well Lads has Good got here yet or still not as you know how slow aussies are.
TLR I don’t think the kids are doing to bad against the slick skilled brazilians 😉 although as they have said its hard for them as its their 5th game in 6 days, and we hear so much about how the prem players are tired because they played 3 or 4 days before 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Oh, and shag their team mates girlfriends. Almost forgot about that.
Jonathan Pearce said Giggs is a very classy player earlier on.
I couldn’t help thinking “I wonder if his wife and brother agree?”
Pootle(Quote)
the younguns are down 1-0 😥
Big Dave(Quote)
Pressure has told some Manure trialist headed in at the back post. Brazil one up deservedly so on posession
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
TLR the players do look a bit tired don’t they, im not trying to make excuses for them
Big Dave(Quote)
Like so many other games this year. The bairns are struglling to keep the ball against Brazilians
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
First time to see these young lads play so it hard to judge them but our number 9 Adam Campbell ( i think ) looks good.
Johno Toon(Quote)
Agree Dave its been a tough schedule for them. Give credit to the opposition though they look useful.
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
TLR yeah typical Brazilians technically they are better than us
Big Dave(Quote)
Johno yeah I like young Adam but he has been left a bit isolated, and he’s having to come back to try to get into the game
Big Dave(Quote)
Two nil to the Brazilians. The boy down the right Oliviera a blistering turn of pace (reminiscent of Richie getting the drinks in) opened up our defence for a stab in at the second attempt
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
TLR you mean like Richie doing a runner when its his turn to get the drinks in 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave/Toby….I have that burst of speed for either/or depending on my mood
richietoon(Quote)
Dave never heard it said that Richie takes a backward step. Short arms deep pockets?
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
😥 3-0 that was a bit unlucky but they still have done well to get to the final 🙁
Big Dave(Quote)
Young Adam Campbell gets player of the tournament 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Campbell named player of the tournament. The bairns are oot on their feet and the Brazilians are taking full advantage
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Richie @ 242 yeah depending on if its happy hour or not 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave… 😆
Toby… I prefer nae pockets, perfect excuse for not having my wallet on me 😉
richietoon(Quote)
RICHIE does buy the odd pint in,the last time he bought a pint it was just 40p,that put him right off so he leaves it to others to get em in now 😀
icedog(Quote)
Ice.. 😯 it’s 40p a pint now 😯 .. 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Richie @ 250 yeah but you still only get them in on happy hour you tight git.
Was just reading through a bit ago, and must say Southern Red isn’t your typical dipper that we get on here
Big Dave(Quote)
NUFc twitter earlier posted that someone beat tiote to a 50-50 (bigi). Then: ‘we can confirm that bigi is still alive and well, although ‘mini cheick’ has been keeping away from ‘big cheick’ for the last few minutes!’
🙂 😆 😆
Dubtoon(Quote)
Both the Manc teams are after campbell according to reports today 🙄 They are trying to nick our best prospects befor they’ve even made the first team now 👿
kimtoon(Quote)
RICHIE how much is lager in your neck of the woods now,you can still get lager for a euro in malta its fooking **** like brewed in china or some bloody place,but in general its a canny price as long as you keep away from tourist areas like,i get a large j/d and coke for 1.50 euros
icedog(Quote)
twitter rumour ben arfa to psg for 7 mill 😆
batty(Quote)
Football Rumours
10pm NEWS: Newcastle United have accepted a £7 million bid from PSG for Hatem Ben Arfa. #NUFC
batty(Quote)
seems cheap like,think jabba would screw more than that oot of psg so think its ***** 😆
icedog(Quote)
Batts you got to love twatter they must be just buying one leg at that price 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
No way we’d let him go for so little. And PSG have deep pockets, I am sure a certain someone would try to get a lot more out of him than 7 Million. Funny though.
Oh, and good lord…258 comments…takes a long time to read through all of that. Good stuff though.
NorCal Toonfan(Quote)
regarding ac and man u …….the majority of lg to prem clus constantly have scouts at youth torniments,most likley the scouts were watching all the young players throughout the tourniment not just one player.well doneto the lads they done well
stevo(Quote)
If a young player plays well and looks the goods then the equation is simple for the press – Man U or City will be looking to sign them… lazy f*cken journalism at its best. 😡 Then again, maybe they are doing some good old fashion journalism…… by hacking Sir Alex’s mobile phone 😕
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Only 3 days left before Ba’s clause is null and void.
That’s got to be a positive thing. Countdown 3 days.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@Ice
Why don’t you think Carroll is the sharpest knife in the drawer?
Do you know him or is it because he’s got a Geordie accent and isnt great at speaking on tv like a politician?
I find it strange when people make assumptions not actually knowing them.
He comes across as a decent enough lad , who has made mistakes as a youngster but haven’t we all?
There’s plenty on here who are horrific at spelling and I’ve noticed you arent tip top in that department but I wouldn’t generalise and say you were thick.
Intelligence comes in many forms. Some individuals are very clever academically but have no common sense.
Some comedians are so quick witted, almost genius in that area but have no education to speak of.
Bit unfair on the lad really .
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Sir Troyster….defender of the common man
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Troy, do you know for a fact that Ba’s contract has an expiry date on his contract, for the buy out clause? Have you read it or are you basing your opinion on what you have seen in the papers and on TV…. Sounds a bit like what you are accusing Ice of, if you ask me… 😎 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Paid $8.75 for a schooner of beer last night. A schooner is about 3quarters of a pint. Mind, that was at a bit of an up-market pub. In Newcastle I paid 2 pound 30 for a pint. Cost 3 pound 70 in London. I was quite surprised at how cheap almost everything in England was.
Paid almost nowt at all for 2 weeks of quaffing vats of red wine in Galicia. I think I might retire there.
brisvegas(Quote)
Oz @ 265 Didn’t you know that the details of Ba’s contract are part of the collective unconscious? Same as the mind of Mike Ashley and all of NUFC’s transfer negotiations. I’m 😯 that you aren’t plugged in, mate.
brisvegas(Quote)
🙁 Sorry Vegas…. I normally like to wait and see what happens before I throw the baby out with the bath water like Big Dave and co 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
@aussie
Morning my antipodean comrades. 😉
I like the sir Troyster craic. It’s got a kind of ring to it. 😆
I only know about Ba’s contract clause by reading the local press. I have tried to gain access to his original contract to firm things up but his agent told me to F – off. 😯
I’m still trying to work out the comparison with Ba’s contract and Carrolls thickness? 😯
Did you and Begas sleep well? Or was one of you snoring? 😛
Troy Stavers(Quote)
smutty as usual I see Troy 😕
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Troy says, I’m still trying to work out the comparison with Ba’s contract and Carrolls thickness? 😯
Well you can’t criticize someone that passes comment or bases an opinion on what they have gleaned from the internet and then make a comment that is formed on information sourced from the very same place.. You questioned Ices’ reasoning’s in regards to Carroll, saying he had never met the guy, I questioned you saying you haven’t read Ba’s contract… Same dog different leg action 😎
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Looks like Debuchy deal might happen next week according to the Journal this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/d2cfr39
3hourswasted(Quote)
I wonder where Richie is? He is normally out about around this time. Maybe he went out and got himself a job 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😯
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Rumor has it West Ham have bid £18 mil for Carrol , if its true we have a 25% clause on whatever they sell him for , would people rather the £4.5 million we would be due or would people rather we bid for him less the £4.5 mil so £13.5 million?
Johno Toon(Quote)
Don’t be fecking stupid 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Hey, Oz, I read that Troy thinks you have a sense of humour. Sorry to hear that, mate, but I’m sure you’ll get better.
brisvegas(Quote)
Johno…..Rumour also has it they bid £13m and £15m….in short, it’s bollox 😉
richietoon(Quote)
The don’t be fecking stupid was directed at Aussie by the way….although that’s a bit like asking a cow not to eat grass 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Positive words from Demba again
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/07/27/61634-31483310/?
4 days and counting
Unlucky for the youngsters last night , but they still done us proud
Gary(Quote)
25% sell on clause. Wow! Was that in the fine print of the contract? 🙄
brisvegas(Quote)
Vegas, yep, just another one of Troy’s back handed compliments 😉
Richie, I thought as much 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
West Ham bid 17mil for Carroll… Thank goodness, that should make it certain we aren’t in the running.
I hope they reject it and because Carroll would be very useful with Big Sam’s dull as **** style of play. 😐
JJ(Quote)
West Ham have reportedly made a £17 million bid for Liverpool striker Andy Carroll that would shatter the club’s transfer record.
😯 😯
West Ham’s bid of £17 million is significantly more than the £7.5 million they paid Liverpool for Craig Bellamy in 2007 and Jack Sullivan, son of David Sullivan, the West Ham co-owner, virtually confirmed the news by tweeting: “Dad is working on the biggest signing in the history of the club – twice as big as anything the club have done before!”
Carroll himself, however, is thought to favour a return to Newcastle rather than a move to London, despite the presence of former Newcastle team-mate and good friend Kevin Nolan at Upton Park.
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
3HW….I hope that stories bollox too, if it means CB is not the priority also I don’t know how they’ve agreed personal terms without a fee being agreed between the 2 clubs first…..surely not dodgy dealing going on 😯 😉
richietoon(Quote)
or like asking Richie not to eat that cake
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie…invest ya cash wisely(and have a bit of luck), then you can live of ya means without working by the time ya mid 40’s 😉 …and before ya say, no I don’t claim benefits and nor have I since 16 😉
richietoon(Quote)
Don’t mention cake unless there is some….it’s cruel and uncalled for 😥
richietoon(Quote)
Carroll should go to West Ham imo. I’m sure their style of play would suit him. But his beers would be more expensive so I hope they pay him well enough 😀 😀
brisvegas(Quote)
Re the sell-on clause: Liverpool-based journo tonybarrett says the clause is only active if Liverpool make a profit on the 35 million which kind of makes it void now – so a least interest must be genuine.
BigPapa(Quote)
I’m thinking its getting more and more likely that Debuchy will be our only major signing of the summer UNLESS BA or Cisse leaves.
JJ(Quote)
Hats-off to the Journal – very enjoyable reading this morning – lets hope debuchy is in soon!
BigPapa(Quote)
Is mooching of ya missus counted as a benefit
Mate, I am basically debt free myself…own my house and everything in it it.. I haven’t got enough to retire on just yet but I have enough assets to fall back on later in life…. I have never been on benefits either.. I blew a shed load of coin traveling in my twenties but that was a great time… wouldn’t change a thing…
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
The ***** peddlers wrote the book on how to do smokescreen bids that ashley has followed religously in recent years.
£2m with £16m to follow if they stay up is even ropier than us offereing nowt but £13.5m if we are happy with his form, Theres more chance of them being relegated than Caroll flopping back here imho.
Nice to see some progress on the Debuchy/Ba situs and really nice to read about Krul and Harper being the only two keepers training… 😀
CC(Quote)
Oz, I hope your collection of antique steak knives isn’t the asset you are going to fall back on.
brisvegas(Quote)
Demba Ba:
“I don’t care what is being said. I think is part of the game,” he told The Journal.
“However, I have never said anything other than I love being at Newcastle.
“If they hear something from me about my future, that is the truth. Otherwise everything that is said is not true.
“The newspapers and I are not very friendly at the moment. For months and months and months people have been talking about me but there is nothing happening.
“Of course, I am looking forward to next season with Newcastle.
“We just have to build on the progress we made last season. For
me, I just can’t wait to start the first game.”
Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/07/27/61634-31483310/#ixzz21oHirDVm
Great to here from the man himself…
JJ(Quote)
Vegas 😆 na mate, I am hoping that my kids will be highly paid sports stars and I can live off them.. It’s only fair after the money I have forked out for them 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aye, time to go hit the frog and toad and have a captain cook at a new bar in town, and a maybe sip on a few expensive beers.
brisvegas(Quote)
I see Mark Douglas has been reading my tweets and criticism.
For once he has been decisive in his writing.
Normally the article would read:
“the likelihood of Debuchy signing for Newcastle has increased with Ashley reportedly willing to up his offer. It is thought that personal terms may have been agreed with the player already.
Newcastle will look to push through a transfer within the next few weeks.” 😉
JJ(Quote)
Aussie…not at all…but I would if I could
nah she has apartment in Madrid, I have a flat in Toon and we have a house wi both bought in Toon too, nae mortgages so rent is enough, had more dosh when we worked obviously but enough to live off now and quality of life is better…might work again sometime though it’d be cos of boredom more than owt else……or divorce 😆
richietoon(Quote)
JJ….it’ll be in white text at the bottom…..”or it may not happen at all” 😆
richietoon(Quote)