What is a fair price for Andy Carroll?

What price for Andy Carroll?
So another day, and another twist in the protracted saga that is Andy Carroll’s future.

Will he stay at Anfield? Will he leave for pastures new, or indeed not so new? I’m personally not sure, although it seems as though Carroll is only keen on leaving, either temporarily or permanently, is a club can offer European football.

Alan Pardew attracted a lot of criticism from Liverpool fans during the week as he said pretty much what everyone know and stated that Liverpool are going to have to take a hit if they want to offload their misfiring forward. The rights and wrongs of that have been discussed already, but with Liverpool wanting somewhere in the region of £20m I’m just wondering what a realistic price would be for the most expensive Englishman of all time?

Currently Carroll is rated at £13.5m by Transfermarkt.co.uk which values players on current form. Whether it’s right or wrong is up for debate but I’d personally question it.

Of course it’s all a matter of opinion but I happen to think that Carroll, based on his last 18 months, is worth no more than £10m. You can call potential as much as you like, but he had that at Newcastle and has so far failed to fulfil it at Liverpool so why should it be a consideration now?

I just think there is a premium being put on the price of Andy Carroll’s head by Newcastle fans based on nothing other than the fact he is a Geordie who did well for us for two half seasons – one in the Championship and one in the Premier League. I keep saying this but would people be happy to spend £20m on Kevin Davies who has outscored Carroll in a weaker team? Though not…

End of the day it’s a pointless argument I guess. No fans have any real say as to what goes on during transfer negotiations and we aren’t privvy to information that is flying around boardrooms currently, plus it’s not actually our money which I guess makes it easier to spend.

So, purely theoretical as I don’t believe Carroll will be leaving Liverpool anyway, what value would you put on his head if you were making the decision to sign him or not?

P.S: For any Liverpool fans wondering why this has been written, ask your manager who started all of this!

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423 thoughts on “What is a fair price for Andy Carroll?

  1. Big dave

    Dont get me wrong theres no one better than carroll at what he does but i dont think we play that kind of football any more, there are just better players out there for less money who will suit us more.

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  2. Dave-No you’re defo right, I mean Carroll definitely had an impact on several of them, I just don’t feel that he is the factor we’re missing on with them-its something the lads need to work on seriously.

    Cabaye has decent corners-but he’s often left them for Raylor or Benny to take, which makes you think he’s unsure. Well several of Benny and Raylors have gone straight out, so there’s obviously something wrong. Half the time we seemed to be putting it to the back of the box where willo was waiting, which just seemed kinda pointless.

    Carroll was good…and if you take his good form then he was great, but better than Ba when Ba was on form? That lad was on fire, was the talk of Europe and people were actually saying he was the best striker since shearer, or even better than shearer. I think the second half of the season has dampened peoples views on him, but for me he is still absolute quality. He’s a faster, a better dribbler, passer, headerer and more versatile than Cisse as well imo.

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  3. dave @224 when heskey made his england debut alongside shearer, i think against argentina, shearer said he was going to be the main man!! lol, yeah shola’s had his injuries, but , he has never been convincing enough!!

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  4. Dave-He’s not better than Shearer, but someone has definitely said that and it was on this blog as well, can’t remember who it was mind..he is our best striker since though, and this season will be about him vs cisse hopefully in a friendly way, and I can’t wait :mrgreen:

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  5. Andy should already know any details though, doesn’t he have the same agent as Nolan and Fat Sam?

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  6. Newkie @ 230 we get allsorts on here mate 😆

    FSOTC I seen that earlier but apparently LFC know nowt about it and a few sites removed the story 😕

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  7. Yeah, it seemed from the article that the ball was in Big Andy’s court and he had to decide if he’d accept it as a personal matter, but that seems to be moot if Big Dave’s correct and some sites are yanking the story.

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  8. FSOTC aye mate i keep dave reet or he gets the wet kipper treatment 😀 😀 rags will dive on any storey and take out or add what they think will sell there *****

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  9. Dave-I could swear it was a regular, not just some nutter randomer!

    Not that it makes all that difference like 😉

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  10. Hey–any of you fellows ever hike/walk up around Hadrian’s Wall? Me & the woman are coming up north in August to have a look around & come see a game… if I can get tix…

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  11. DAVE 😀 😀 no mate no sign of him today its his day off too 😀 he is house hunting like if hes found one with plenty food he wont go until its all gone 😉

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  12. FSOTC yes ive walked a fair bit of the wall in my younger days nowt to shout about imo,but then i was with a young lady,wasnt a lady when we left like 😆 😆

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  13. Ha! Well done, Ice. It seems you had ideas other than history & culture on your mind while you were out there, you scoundrel.

    Did you ever check out any of the fort remains & roman museums up there?

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  14. FSOTC look the wall up on the net mate,they have done a fair bit work on it for tourists.
    well ime off laters

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  15. FSOTC kna never saw any of those forts ect,the village i live now was once a roman settlement about half a mile away,often thought about taking a metal detector round and about but wor lass wont dig the spoil-sport 😆 😆 😆

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  16. DAVE@249 aye i helped build with you,i had to be there or you would only have built it up-side down,as you lot tend to do 😀

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  17. FSOTC kna joking aside there has been a couple of lads have checked the fields round about me and come up with a few things

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  18. Hmm, its certainly doing the rounds then. Fecking West Ham, i’m tired of all these promoted teams splashing all their cash around, them and QPR, bloody london clubs 👿

    Why can’t they be like Norwich and do it sensibly?

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  19. Kinda need Carroll himself to come out and say what he wants, that won’t happen though because no matter who or where he says he wants to go he’ll alienate someone

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  20. Yeah, Newkie, he’s got himself in a real spot, but I think it’s clear what he wants in his heart of hearts, but it won’t be allowed by his minders unless their price is met.

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  21. Aye, the silly ******* should never have left, although he’s probably helped us more by leaving than he could have done if he’d stayed

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  22. I think Carroll is a good player and would welcome him back at the toon, but it wouldn’t phase me if he didn’t come back.

    His true value is questionable. He was sold for a hyper-inflated amount – about 20m too much imo – and hasn’t lived up to that value, so now he has to prove his worth again. I think a loan move is the best option for us to gauge what that is.

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  23. This clip actually shows the Brendan Rodgers interview in question, so it will put any doubts about what was said to rest…. I think there has been a lot read into this…… 😕
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6YoD2htzP0

    PS: I apologize for the lack of English subtitles before and after the interview footage :mrgreen:

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  24. See Sky Sports are trying to muster up a story this morning stating ‘Foreign club to activate Ba release clause’ what a load of ****. What am I actually paying Sky for again? Tossers.

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  25. Don’t agree with slagging the Liverpool bloggers as bin dippers. They never slated us but just defended their corner.

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  26. No one has ever said Carroll is a bad player. What has been said is that he simply isn’t worth anything above what we supposedly bid for him (13mil).

    I still don’t believe he will come to the Toon and he is simply waiting. In the end he will probably be forced to move to West Ham on deadline day, when its made clear the Toon won’t pay over the odds for him.

    It seems to be more and more clear despite Rodgers swaying back and forth that he isn’t wanted at Liverpool now.

    What concerns me is that is could be damaging for us, as we are currently waiting for Lille (Debuchy), Liverpool (Carroll) and Twente (Douglas) to buckle under pressure…

    If none of them budge, we could end up with nobody and not enough time to go for alternate targets. If we do the tables would have turned and the selling club’s will have the upper hand.

    Its important we don’t wait and get players in soon.

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  27. “Troy Stavers
    July 31, 2012 at 08:28

    Don’t agree with slagging the Liverpool bloggers as bin dippers. They never slated us but just defended their corner.”

    Troy does not take lightly to name calling. Especially when it involves degrading the opposition by labelling them with his professional trade. 😉 😛

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  28. Good old Troyster, the high moral reference point of this blog site 😯

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  29. @JJ & Aussie

    It does make those who slag the Liverpool fans off look like fools.

    They came on here to give their opinions and none of them resorted to slagging us off.

    Embarrassing. 😳

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  30. If they had lowered themselves to your tactics then you’s all would have turned on them and felt slighted!
    How dare they call us!!! 😳

    Everyone who has, go to the nearest mirror and repeat these words;
    ” I am a disgrace, an embarrassment to NUFC”

    Do it until it sinks in and you accept Troy was right! 😎

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  31. I see SSN is still saying a club from abroad is set to activate Ba’s clause 🙄 Roll on midnight and they can shut the F*** up once and for all . 👿

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  32. I didn’t abuse any one Troy, so why don’t you be a man and name the names of the accused 🙂

    For the record, you are the only person I abuse on this site, because you are special 🙂 🙂

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  33. Leon Best snapped his cruciate. 😯

    @Aussie

    I forgot all your mirrors are cracked. 😛

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  34. Heard last night it was the rich russian side who are going to activate Ba’s clause.
    According to their “Sources” Ba wants to stay playing at the high end of the Premiership. Guess that means us or he’s telling one of the top four to come in for him.

    Either way things will become a lot clearer in 14hrs or so

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  35. Troy, at least my mirrors don’t have a rape whistle like yours 🙂 🙂 woo hoo hoo 🙂

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  36. Not one post with Judas ! 😯

    It’s amazing how fickle many of you are.

    We all know who you are as well. 😉

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  37. Troy Stavers
    February 13, 2012 at 12:26

    @Gary

    I never use derogatory language on this blog.

    You absolute ****** Mong! 😈

    ___________________

    😳

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  38. Apparently we have been offered ajax defender Greg van der wiel . Sounds like he would bè a back up should our dodgy Debuchy deal fall over 🙂 🙂

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  39. “Troy Stavers
    July 31, 2012 at 09:53

    @JJ & Aussie

    It does make those who slag the Liverpool fans off look like fools.

    They came on here to give their opinions and none of them resorted to slagging us off.

    Embarrassing. 😳 ”

    Troy, I think it was all in jest, and most of the Liverpool guys saw it that way by the end, if not at first.
    I’d think of all the people on this blog you’d be the one to understand that – if people do take serious offense, they need to lighten up and take the world of the web a lot less seriously.

    Don’t you agree?

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  40. “Colin
    July 30, 2012 at 16:29

    Right guys, thanks for the good laugh but I really do need to go now… I’m hungry and I need to get down to the bins at the bottom of the road before they are emptied. 🙂 YNWA”

    Hardly taken offensively, he took it in jest, and had a laugh, as the others should do… If you ask me, the world needs more people with Colin’s attitude.
    We are serious about the wrong things, and blasé to the things that should be important.

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  41. JJ, Troy was fishing for a bite or two 🙂 Just do what everyone else does an humor him, its been a while since he has had any attention, so cut him some lack mate 🙂

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  42. some bobby robson quotes to make u smile and remember the man since it was 3 years today we lost him i wont list more as id like others to think of ones or find some

    1 Sir Bobby to Bryan Robson: Good morning, Bobby. Bryan: You’re Bobby, I’m Bryan!

    2 He’s very fast and if he gets a yard ahead of himself nobody will catch him.

    3 I would have given my right arm to be a pianist.

    4. We didn’t underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought – after England sneaked through against Cameroon in the 1990 World Cup.

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  43. Somehow I thought we were looking at Van der Wiel before, but I guess he got replaced by Pieters, Cissokho and Debuchy on the priorities list. Does anybody else remember Van der Wiel being in the crosshairs?

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  44. Sir Bobby on craig bellemy – he is the only man I know that could start an argument with himself 🙂 🙂

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  45. Pup
    That last one is the best, very much like a Clough quote. :mrgreen: What a great man, shame I didn’t really appreciate his time at the club cus I didn’t care about football(watching it) back then.

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  46. andy mag thats the best thing about history mate u can read and look back and appreciate it,,,, sometimes even more so i’ll post a quote what he said actually in a bit

    best one for me was calling bryan robson bobby robson how on earth do u call someone else your own name lol

    and for him to say your bobby im bryan… classic !!!!!!!

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