It’s going to be a toughie and Newcastle will have to play at a level we haven’t reached thus far this season if we are to return to Tyneside with any points to show for our effort. I don’t hold out much hope anyway…
It also seems that Everton are riled up by Alan Pardew for some reason. They seem to believe he has disrespected them and several of their players, headed by Phil Jagielka, have come out and said that they are eager to set the record straight this evening. Just as long as Marouane Fellaini’s elbow hasn’t heard about it we should be able to deal with it.
The issue is over these words said by Alan Pardew last season: “Forget about Everton and Aston Villa, we have put ourselves in a similar position to Arsenal. The one security I have is that Mike Ashley is a difficult seller. He is not going to let someone go for £7m, he is going to want top, top money.”
Now maybe I’m just being flippant but I don’t really see anything wrong with that. Or maybe Everton see themselves as being in a similar position to Arsenal themselves? I don;t know, either way it’s just, well, silly…
Anyway, back to the match. If you haven;t already done so you can read my perfectly crafted match preview which details injury news, previous history between the two team, some stats and a stab at team selection from yours truly.
Which just about wraps this up really. Newcastle will need to up their game considerably if they are to stand any hope of repeating last season and it needs to start as soon as possible. Will it be tonight though is the question?
As ever, team news will be added below as and when it becomes available.
Howay the lads!
Everton: Howard; Hibbert, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Osman, Neville, Pienaar, Miralles; Fellaini; Jelavic
Subs: Mucha, Heitinga, Naismith, Gueye, Coleman, Anichebe, Duffy
Newcastle: Harper, Perch, S.Taylor, Williamson, Santon, Anita, Gutierrez(c), Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveaux, Cisse.
Subs: Elliot, Tavernier, Bigirimana, Gosling, Obertan, Shola Ameobi, Ba
KIMTOON the lad did look in a different frame of mind tonight , it is starting too look like their is a slight split in the camp though ,interesting words from Ba after the game .
Axel(Quote)
G Nev talks a lot of sense. Good pundit. Never liked him as a player. Suppose playing for Manure had something to do with it
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Can’t believe Cisse has gone from can’t stop scoring to can’t start scoring 🙄 .
Harper has been starved of 1st team action and when he finally gets a shot again he’s got a make shift defence in front of him ,so I think we can forgive a little rustiness really . Anita was better in the Rb posistion too.
KIMTOON(Quote)
442 gets ripped all over europe. No good teams play it. It is the only system that works for us. Is the rest of europe wrong
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
I think the truth is we have been a second half team for a very long time now. Going back years actually. Everton looked exhausted for spells in the second, that’s what can happen if you start all guns blazing. Some teams start fast and try to win the game in the first 20 minutes, unfortunately for Everton they only managed to score 1 but if it had been 3 then it’s game over. I think it’s sad how almost every game our players look like they need a rollicking at half time to get them going. That says to me something isn’t right in the way they are preparing for games.
DJG(Quote)
TLR I think he is the best pundit on tv I too didn’t like him as a player and at 1st I thought he would be a right muppet as a pundit but says it how it is and will even slate Manure,
He thinks Pards set the team out right and it was just the players that were poor and not the set up 😕
Big Dave(Quote)
Toby ,Gary Nev really knows his stuff ,would make a good manager too imo. But yeah ,hated him when he was with the mancs 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
1st Richie and now a few more on twitter are saying Oba refused to come on as a sub 🙄
Big Dave(Quote)
Yeah I don’t understand why we always seem to play only the second half. We have a problem in the first half, we don’t want to take risk to start an action from behind. I think in the first half Benny touches 2 or 3 balls, so he comes and takes the ball to harper because it was so frustrated and we almost concede a goal because he lost the ball.
But when we press high the opponent, we can construct more and put some pressure and our offensive players can receive some good balls to be dangerous.
HBA39(Quote)
Just seen a bit of Pardews after match interview , something is not quite right ,he has some unhappy players me thinks .
Axel(Quote)
Ba when asked if he was determined to prove the manager wrong said :”I was determined, because lately I haven’t been happy with things.” ??
Big Dave(Quote)
Wonder if some of the players think they have a god given right too be first 11. Why on earth would Oba refuse too come on if true ? and why did Cisse not celebrate Ba’s first goal ?
Axel(Quote)
Dave ,Carefull now don’t go talking about player unrest you’ll only get called on it 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
We were immensely better in the 2nd half- was fearing a battering early on. However something does seem off. I was struck by how little the players were chasing things down in the first half- that determination, will to prove people wrong and togetherness does seem to be missing.
More importantly though we’re missing Krul, Colo and Tiote the spine of our team. Take 3 players like that from any team and they’ll suffer.
SJP14(Quote)
Hope Colo and Tiote are back for the next game
Axel(Quote)
I would have thought Obertan would have been grateful to be on the bench. we have better much better players Ghana him
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
TLR @229 – I’d say you’re flogging a dead horse, but it gave you (and Chelsea) an almighty kick as recently as the 31st. 😉 If you paid attention an obscure tournament earlier this year called the “European Championships”, you might also have spied a bunch of blue-clad southern Europeans playing 4-4-2 and making it to the final.
Wellington(Quote)
Axel ,Amen to that 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
We shouldn’t forget that we have been missing Tiote in the last 3 games. Despite him being a bit daft at times and not the greatest playmaker etc. I think he is irreplaceable for us at the min. He can get that control in the engine room that allows everyone else to be more organized and play their own game. We keep possession better and look like a top 5 team when Tiote is playing.
DJG(Quote)
Can those people who come on here suggesting this formation or that formation explain why they often suggest a formation with one up front? When have we, or any other team for that matter, ever played well with one up front? How was Cisse going to do anything when he was one against 4? And, after a pretty mediocre performance against Atromitos, what had Marv done to take Ba’s place?
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B & B
I suggest 4-3-3 with 3 up front and goes to 1 when we are defending deeply. The last game I truly enjoyed (Baggies away) we deployed this formation. But in hindsight, we couldn’t have played it today, we need Tiote to be the anchor for it to work.
DJG(Quote)
I nearly took the roof off when we got the second, especially as it came so soon after watching the scouse delirium and the ginger Scot giving it large.
Absolute brilliance from Shola. I’m starting to warm to this new lad.
As for Sayls, I said at the time that there wasn’t much he could do about it, and I see Gary Neville agreed. He might have been a touch tighter, but even Colo wouldn’t have stopped it.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
I think it’s easy to speculate and read into things that aren’t there.
Pardew says Obertan was dying to get on – end of.
Ba says he wasn’t happy with how things were going. If I had just drawn at home with Villa and participated in some woeful early displays with my team mates I wouldn’t be happy either.
I for one am not getting drawn into making mountains out of mole hills.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Perch had a terrific second half.
brisvegas(Quote)
B & B
Personally I’m glad Pardew shook things up a bit and it didn’t seem to do Ba any harm, when was the last time he scored a brace?
And also, how do people know if we had started 4-4-2 it would have been any better? You don’t, it could have been 3-0 at half time for all we know.
DJG(Quote)
The score was actually 4-2 Everton so we shouldn’t be too pleased with the outcome. The first half we were shocking. I don’t think we won a single 50-50 ball. The changes at the half couldn’t come soon enough. No more Perch in the back 4 please. The first half wiped the stupid grin off of Llambias’s face. He should be hiding his face for a while now. Pardew looked grim quite a bit of the time. He knows how thin we are and how many games we have to play. 🙁
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BLACKLEY & BROWNLIE
September 17, 2012 at 23:19
I nearly took the roof off when we got the second, especially as it came so soon after watching the scouse delirium and the ginger Scot giving it large.’
😆
It reminded me of the old Newcastle. Hit with the Sucker punch.
DJG(Quote)
Just reading my text exchange with Troyer.
Me @ 20:20 hours: Completely disorganised and lost. You would think it is a training session that nufc are not taking seriously. Marv was poor in cup game.
Me @ 20:27 hours: Pardew was right about NUFC being in different league. What a stupid statement to fire them up.
Troyer @ 20:54 Hours: I bet you are dying over your good expectations. If he can’t knock Willo out the team then its worrying. His tackle was more of a tickle! You will see why I was ranting. No depth in the squad.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
I’m pleased that smarmy git Jagelka didn’t get his clean sheet as well. 😈 They made such a thing about nowt over Pardew’s comments from last season. 😳
DJG(Quote)
DJG @ 250 “And also, how do people know if we had started 4-4-2 it would have been any better?”
I’d say I know from years of watching football, and NUFC in particular, that one up front gets you nowt. I’d say I know that four marking one is a massive ask; that is just a no brainer. I’d say I know that when I’ve seen it deployed to its best effect, its done with a big, strong target man.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
@B&B
But you say from years of watching football, when the best teams in the world play one up top 😕
Used effectively it’s supposed to be 3 up top. HBA and Marv dropped too deep, whether due to instructions or not.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Finally, they deserved the win.
Those two decisions were extremely unlucky for them. But also extremely tight and I think as much as I’d be aggreived if it happened to us, it’s just a close call error.
However the ref’s decision not to play advantage 😯 Must have been because he’d known the ball was over. Otherwise it is the WORST decision I’ve ever seen ❗
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Spurs (h) Win
Chelsea (a) lose
A Villa (h) Draw
Everton (a) Draw.
I think if that had been the start of our first survival season back, or relegation season we would have been pretty encouraged with that. What is it they say, ‘If you can be below par and have players missing and still get results you have a good thing going’. We can’t be that bad to be getting point in these games. Spurs didn’t get going until they played Reading, who look relegation fodder.
DJG(Quote)
Mountains out of mole hills.
EvilFranky(Quote)
Strumpet @ 248. I was thinking the same as you about Oba and Ba. I would also say I thought Cisse was smiling when Ba scored and came over to congratulate him.
People say Cisse and Ba can’t play together. However, whilst they haven’t yet proved they link up well, you can’t deny that one or other of them scores when they’re both on the pitch; that’s surely got to be the main thing.
Still proud of Shola tonight though after his moment of sheer brilliance gave me that moment of absolute joy at watching a towel stuffed down the scousers throats whilst celebrating their “hard fought victory”. GET IN.
Now lets sit on the canary.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
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@B&B
Your point is? 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Strumpet @256 “But you say from years of watching football, when the best teams in the world play one up top
Used effectively it’s supposed to be 3 up top. HBA and Marv dropped too deep, whether due to instructions or not.”
So is it one up top or three up top? You prove my point. What I keep saying is that its more about the personnel than the formation. You need fluidity and adaptability. To say the best teams in the world play one up top is far too simplistic.
You say HBA and Marv drop too deep. I’d say you need any one or more of the nine other players up in support most of the time, going on the overlap. We always play far too deep anyway never mind trying to attempt one up front.
When Sayls charges out of defence, he gets to the half way line, stops, and lays it off sideways or backwards. Then he sprints home. Centre backs in the best teams in the world charge on, and actually look comfortable carrying the attack.
Until we’re one of the best teams in the world with the best hold up and support players, I suggest we stick to what works for us and avoid what clearly doesn’t.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you say about HBA and Marv not supporting enough, “whether due to instruction or not”. You can’t decide to play one up top without making sure that everyone else knows how to play it, and for that they will need to change their whole game and style. With the best players in the world playing with the best players in the world, you don’t need to tell them.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Troyer. I take it you’re asking about the text exchange. The point that concerns you is your ranting at half time at the lack of depth in the squad. Yet we have just gone to Goodison, brought Demba Ba off the bench, and battled from a goal down to get a well earned point. That’s without Tiote, Krul, and Colo, who should, incidentally, all be back soon.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Howay the fucking lads
After some rather colourful language and an angry pint spilling or two, I have to say, what a fucking match. I know we played some horrid stuff/everton were awesome in the first half, but you couldn’t knock the excitement. Heart pounding for a lot of the second half 😉
People slag of Willo. For me he matched Taylor. At fault for the first, and Taylor was at fault for the second. As for the rest I felt he handled Fellani and Jelavic and anyone else in the air for that matter pretty well. Also an assist to the assist 😉
People slag off Shola, but yet again he provided a quite brilliant assist to get us the last goal. Reminiscent of Ba’s second goal vs manure only not so tidy a goal 😀 But a great pairing non the less, Shola proving he is a good player and not the joke he is often painted as.
Angry with Pards and his team set up? To be honest it’s the team I would have chosen (apart from Cisse up front, I said before the match Ba has been the better striker and yet again he proved that by scoring both goals and looking far sharper) Slow out the blocks which is annoying, but Everton are tenacious starters, good half time talk and the right substition, Marv was ghostly. We had our luck but to be fair, I don’t think their goal was 100% over and our counter attack would almost certainly have resulted in a goal so meh. Ben Arfa played worse than he has done so far, but thankfully encouraging signs from Cabaye and Ba.
All in all a tidy result considering we had 3 out of our back 5 and were missing the entirety of our spine, should leave those scousers absolutely raging! 😀
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@Bradford & Bingle
Hmm. I never knew private texts would be used as on the blog to prove a point. 😯
Totally different forum. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Also it was beautiful to hear the howls of derision from half the pub when we got our second equaliser. Too many fucking scousers down here anyway! 😎
Newkie(Quote)
One more point before I go to bed. Someone says or posts that Santon can’t defend, (probably based on the idea that he is comfortable going forward) and that Simmo is a much better defender. Then someone else hears or reads it, and gets it in their head. Before long it has spread like a virus until it is received wisdom.
I will say now that the kid is an excellent defender, and I would love to see him at NUFC for the next ten years. He gets better and better and has a great future in front of him. Unfortunately, I fear he will be playing in one of the best teams in the world before long. Of course, if you stick your neck out in our family, you have to live with the sword of Troyocles hanging over you, so its a bold prediction.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B+B-He is an alright defender and he has the potential to be one of if not one of the best defenders, or certainly full backs we’ve ever had. For me right now though, I just don’t think he is. Flashy when it’s not required and often bailed out by Colo/Jonas. Considering Simmo has played for so long with an average CB and poor or no support from Barton/Barfa, I just feel he’s better independently. Funny how Everton ran rings around Perch tonight, if it had been simpson there’d have been another fucking witch hunt.
Newkie(Quote)
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@Bed & Breakfast
Though it’s a private issue, now you’ve brought it up I will print my text;
I bet you are dying over your Good expectations. If he can’t knock willo out the team then it’s worrying.
His tackle was more of a tickle!
You will see why I was ranting.
No depth in the squad
Can you not see my point ?
You actually stated on a previous thread that Good might be the best CB at the club by the time Santa dons his hat.
So to play your devious game, I will print your text you sent me during the game;
“Completely disorganised and lost. You would think it is a training session that nufc are not taking seriously. Marv was poor in cup game
Pardew was right about nufc being in different league. What a stupid statement to fire them up.”
You ok with me printing your texts on the blog ?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Also noticing how the Sky reporting on SSN is saying Everton had two clear goals and not really showing much of our stuff. Especially Jagielka’s push on Ba, for me that was a pen. Completely unbiased of course 😉
Newkie(Quote)
Troyer – What you said on the text is only a re-assertion of what you’ve said for weeks on the blog. So what’s your point? Or is that the only point you can make? Pretty poor response Troyer.
When you use the word “private” was there something that you said that was private? Besides, weren’t you the one bringing up my words in the pub and using them “on the blog”. Very poor form, Troyer. Very, very poor!
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Troyer – You numpty. When you said Good expectations, I had no idea you were referring to Curtis Good, whom incidentally you seem to be writing off already. I thought you had just hit a capital by mistake on your mobile. Also, you numpty, when I posted your comment, I also posted the full exchange. Can you not read it properly on your moblie? You’re going on as if I was being selective. Wooooooo Hoooooooo 😆 😆
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Troyer – I’m off to bed now defo. You should recite your own disclaimer to help you get to sleep, fella. 😯 😀
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
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Wow! Barry & Bob
I am howling at your antics. It’s a good job I never hold grudges with family.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
We’ll have no hissy fitters in our family please. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Great (lucky) result and point.. Everton were unlucky not to get the goal allowed but until there is goal line technology introduced what can you do?
On formations; it doesn’t matter if it is 433 or 442, if the components of either system are not all functioning as they should then it will get found out. No one formation is the answer! I’ve seen us play well and poorly with both set ups so how one could be considered better than the other really baffles me(not that it is hard to do 🙂 )
Very happy all the same 🙂 🙂
Oh, where are all of the neggers that said we would get flogged ? – Ritchietoon – Big Dave – Ice- Kim 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Wow!! Troy has chucked the mother of all hissy fits 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
AMF
Nah I know what you’re getting at with the formations-I’ve said before that if your players don’t turn up you’re ****** either way. That being said there are still notable differences. For me, our backline was generally gash (to be expected) but in general our passing and general forward play as better than it’s been all season. Not quite sure how we did it, but we did well in the second half, in what looked like a 4-2-2-2 😛
Newkie(Quote)
@276. I think those that thought we’d get flogged simply moved onto “there is discontent amongst the squad.” There is always somethting.
Thought we really bossed them in the second half. Everton will feel hard done, but they ended up getting their second shortly thereafter anyways…
Credit to Pards for making the necessary changes at the half but he has to realize that for 2 years now, we are not good at sitting back and trying to nick a point. We have players that love to storm forward and they should be allowed to do so from the opening minute.
MDS(Quote)
I know I’m biased but was there really that much in it for the two ‘certain goals’ that the press and Everton blogs are taking about. First of all with the offside goal, if you look the linesman can’t really see when the ball is kicked as a player is obstructing his view, S.Taylor is last man running out and Fellani is running in the other direction, can the linesman really give that as on side if he can’t see when the ball was kicked. Also for the one off the line, again his view is obstructed. If he can’t see it’s over the line how can he give it?
DJG(Quote)
Newkie, come on mate 😉 it was a standard 442… 😎
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Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Troy your disclaimer certainly looks a little embarrassing now 😆 😆
I’ve rewritten it for you (edited)…
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😆 😆 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I see Pardz has confirmed that a few players are upset about missing out and he mentioned Obertan… Storm in a tea cup stuff, I don’t know too many players that would be happy to sit on a bench… I think it is good to see a bit of passion… However, saying that, if you are asked to go on the park by the manager, you get your **** out there… I am not sure how true the stories are about Oba refusing to go are tho 😕
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
MDS-Agreed.
Aussie 😆 🙄 Oh you Australians and your wit, simply criminal.
Personally, despite the fact Ba went on in place of Marv, I thought Jonas still played more like a DM and Cabaye more forward than he was in normal 4-4-2s, with Benny wandering behind the front men.I say that because of all the areas where they picked up the ball, but to be fair the whole of the second half was so back and forth with players all over the pitch it was hard to pin it down. I think we switched to 4-3-1-2 rather than a 4-4-2 to be honest, because Benny was always with the forwards and Jonas was always amongst the defence.
Oh, and Aussie- 4-2-2-2 is actually a formation, used famously by Brazil and including some of their world cup winning sides if I am not mistaken, so there! Bloody philistine.. 😉
Newkie(Quote)
DJG-Yeah its pissing me off really, having had ssn on since getting back from the pub its all sky are on about two “certain goals.” Well he missed a pen for us and stopped Benny when it was 3 on 1 and actually, wasn’t Pienaar also the last man? So it should have been a red 😀
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie 😯 😉
I agree it was 442
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
still on football….I thought Jonas’s hair cut looked nice as well 😯 😎 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
some thoughts from last nite –
– Harper looks a bit old, at fault for both goals in my opinion – both kinda went thru him
– we’re getting physically dominated, too many little fellas. Anita looks slight and is being treated like a ***** by opponents, particularly when playing mid
– missed a trick in not going for Mirallas (Cabaye’s other best-mate)
– big Shols looked sharp and we were at our most effective playing hoof ball in his general direction
– once again, I find myself asking ‘Ou es le Marveaux??’
– Jonas looks about 5 years younger with his new do
M(Quote)
– and if Santon could sort out his final ball/crossing/cutbacks he’d be a hell of a player
M(Quote)
AMF – baines was covering and was last man when HBA was taken out hence only yellow card – tho how he didn’t play advantage when we were 3 on 1 can only mean he felt guilty about not giving the everton goal – poor decision
stevep(Quote)
Look at Aussie dangling his rod already 😯 as you well know I said I thought we’d get something at everton
richietoon(Quote)
AMF you got the wrong bate on your hook mate 😀 i never forcast results they come back and bite your ***,your a poor fisherman,stick to wombat chaseing,oh and richie did say we would get sumit mind he could have been thinking “pies” 😀 :grin:,i think marv is a good player but its just not happening for him at the mo
icedog(Quote)
I have one big question.
Everyone seems to be taking it for granted that the ball 100% crossed the line.
No doubt that the majority of the ball was over the line. BUT can you 100% say that the entire ball was over it? I for one saw no space between the ball and the post. To me there was still doubt. Whether by half an inch or a millimetre, I don’t think you can say that the entire ball was definately over the line.
From there the ref stops a 3 on one situation where the odds are very good we’ll score. So for me, I would say if anything we were robbed there.
However, the offside decision was definately onsides for me. Everton were robbed there and overall they were by far the better team.
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@Borisism
Your reply;
Curtis Good, whom incidentally you seem to be writing off already. I thought you had just hit a capital by mistake on your mobile. Also, you numpty, when I posted your comment, I also posted the full exchange. Can you not read it properly on your moblie? You’re going on as if I was being selective. Wooooooo Hoooooooo
Oh how I chortled at your reply. 😆 😆
I thought you would have realised that I meant Curtis Good. My text again;
I bet you are dying over your Good expectations. If he can’t knock willo out the team then it’s worrying.
His tackle was more of a tickle!
You will see why I was ranting.
No depth in the squad
Who did you think I was referring to when I put a capital letter on Good and in the next sentence I’m referring to “he”. ?
You keep trying to outdo me but end up making a chump of yourself. Many boxers go thru this phase. They start off as feeling invincible but take a few punches to the head. They brush them off in the early stages of the fight but with each punch the stunning effect gets worse.
In the end the softest of punches in the latter rounds can be devastating.
It’s going to come to a point where I put a smiley up and you are going to be clean out and Troyer will be doing the Ali shuffle standing over you. 😆 😆 😆
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Aussie I see you called it wrong, you thought we were just going to turn up for the 3 pts 😆 you silly little wombat. Oh I don’t want to say I told you so but 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Also,
I think Pards needs to take a look at himself. If we so drastically and consistantly need to change things around in the second half, then he clearly keeps getting his initial tactics wrong.
I can understand why Obertan got pissed off. It was the perfect game for him, especially with him doing a man marking job on Baines and usings his pace on the counter. Perch didn’t cope with Baines but was much better in the centre.
It says a lot for Anita that Perch did a better job than him in the middle. For me, in this league, he is a full back. Just not physical enough to play against a Fellaine/Toure/Fletcher/Diabe/Dembele etc.
JJ(Quote)
JJ Neville said before during and after the game that he thought Pards had set up the team right so do you think you know more about tactics than both Pards and Neville ??.
The players were ***** in the 1st half simple they have to carry the can, not Pards. You could say that Pards has to take all the credit for the draw because he made the changes that worked, but I think the players have to take some credit because they had a bit of fire in their belly for the 2nd half and showed a bit of pride.
As for the ball crossing the line I suggest you get your eye’s tested because it was over the line 😆
Troy thats bad craic when someone uses a private msg be it txt or email to try to score points, then try’s to justify it by saying that you used info from a public blog that anyone can see 😕 😯
Big Dave(Quote)
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@B&B
You say;
Troyer @ 20:54 Hours: I bet you are dying over your good expectations. If he can’t knock Willo out the team then its worrying. His tackle was more of a tickle! You will see why I was ranting. No depth in the squad.
I say;
The point I was making was the fault of the goal was down to a tickle instead of a tackle from Willo who I have stated for months should be replaced. No depth in the squad. I used a capital letter for the word Good as that is the name of the CB that you stated maybe the best CB in the club by Xmas. Why else would I use a capital letter in the context of the text.
I have never doubted our capabilities to score and get results. I wasn’t referring to the depth of the squad as a whole. It is clear from our exchange it was referring to our lack of depth in defence.
By the way, you should really have put the capital G in the word good when posting my text on the blog.
You really are getting to the latter rounds and your legs are starting to shake and your head is getting more and more stunned.
The ref is thinking of jumping in. 😉 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
“JJ Neville said before during and after the game that he thought Pards had set up the team right so do you think you know more about tactics than both Pards and Neville ??.”
In this case Big Dave, clearly I did. 😉 To play Marvauex on the right where he looked lost. Lacked pace to pin Baines back and failed to track back ever. How he got the nod ahead of Obertan for this game was amazing.
To play Perch at right full back when we needed some physicality in the middle against Fellaine who tore us to shreads in the first half against two midgets in Cabaye and Anita.
Quite honestly, I’m shocked you don’t see how gifted I am 😛 😆
JJ(Quote)
Dave,
I do give Pards credit for having the balls to change things at half time. Many managers would have too much pride.
I also think it was the right decision at first to set up the formation the way he did, I just think he got the wrong team selection by playing certain people in the wrong position. He corrected it at half time, so credit for that.
JJ(Quote)