Newcastle v Norwich – Premier League match preview

Keep this Canary caged, please!
It’s the battle of the Birds! Magpies vs Canaries. We like to pick up cheap shiny things such as the odd Yohan Cabaye or Demba Ba, whilst the Canaries like to be lowered into deep, dark holes filled with nauseous gas just to see if they will come out of it alive. In football speak, the deep hole is the Premier League, the nauseous gas is the hairspray in the changing rooms. Generally Norwich don’t last long in such an environment!

You will have to forgive me. I can’t remember the layout of these previews and to be honest I can’t be bothered to open up my last few from last season for reference – so this is a ‘wing it and see’ piece.

This should have been the intro, however this game marks Chris Hughton’s first return to St James’ Park since his unfair dismissal at the tail end of 2010. The man hardly set a foot wrong during his tenure at this club. He gave us promotion from the Championship at the first time of asking and had us comfortable during our first season back in the big time. His only ‘crime’ it would seem, was having a face that did not fit with Ashley and Co. He was too nice. I for one extend a warm welcome back to the former Spurs coach and I hope our fans at the game do the same.

Team News:

Newcastle United: Papiss Cisse (illness) and Cheick Tiote (calf) are both back in training and expected to make the match day squad. Hatem Ben Arfa is available again following the completion of his three match European ban from his Marseille days, whilst it is unknown how long Vernon Anita will be away after his wife gave birth to his child in recent days. Danny Simpson (hamstring), Tim Krul (arm), Ryan Taylor (knee) all remain sidelined. Captain Fabricio Coloccini (hamstring) will miss this one, but is expected to be fit for Reading next week.

Norwich City: Simon Lappin and Steven Whittaker (both ankle) are out. Elliott Bennett (knee) is 50/50, whilst summer signing Jacob Butterfield is fit again after making his return during a 90 minute appearance for the U-21’s. James Vaughan and Daniel Ayala are both out on loan.

A few things that may interest you:

This will be the Canaries’ fifth visit to Tyneside in the Premier League. They will be looking for their first victory.

Newcastle have failed to score in the first half so far this season in the Premier League.

Sebastian Bassong is not the only Norwich player to have worn our colours at some point during his career. He joins distinguished names such as Craig Bellamy, Darren Huckerby (just the one appearance for us), Ruel Fox and erm… Gary Megson… in having the same honour.

Norwich have only beaten us in our own back yard four times in history in all competitions, twice in 1988, once in 1938 and once in 1936.

Jonas Gutierrez has been fouled more often this season than any other player in the Premier League (14).

Steve Morison will be looking for his 10th Premier League goal since joining from Millwall last summer.

Whilst Newcastle are the 8th most successful Premier League side in history with a total points haul of 1022, Norwich are 28th with 251 points.

Of their last 35 Premier League away games, Norwich have failed to keep a clean sheet.

If you fancy a flutter then the odds are pretty generous this week. I fancy us to win this one comfortably and a 3-1 win would see the punter take home 12-1. Having a look at first to score, the obvious choices could see the gambler make a tidy return: Cisse is 9-2, whilst Ben Arfa will fetch 7-1.

A bit of history:

When the Premier League began in 1992/1993, Newcastle were still battling it out in Division 1 – a league we would win. However, Norwich were not only in the Premier League, but were leading it for much of the season. They eventually finished third behind Manchester United and Aston Villa.

The following season the Toon were promoted. Norwich claimed a famous win away to Bayern Munich in the UEFA Cup, but in March 1994 the Canaries succumbed to a 3-0 loss at St James’ Park thanks to goals from club legends Andy Cole, Rob Lee and the one and only Peter Beardsley. The Magpies would eventually take Norwich’s third place finish that season. The line up’s on that day were as follows:

Newcastle Utd: Srnicek, Robinson, Nielson, Peacock, Beresford, Sellars, Fox, Bracewell, Lee, Cole, Beardsley. Subs: Holland for Bracewell, Mathie for Fox.

Norwich City: Gunn, Ullathorne, Culverhouse, Prior, Adams, Woodthorpe, Bowen, Goss, Megson, Crook, Eadie. Sub: Akinbiyi for Adams.

This game saw Darren Peacock make his debut following his move from QPR. Whilst the Toon faithful would see their side transform into the ‘Entertainers’, Norwich fans saw their side relegated in 1995. They would not return to the top flight until 2004.

Thoughts on the game:

I’ll keep this short and sweet. Tiote is due back, our first team is rested and our big players should be far too much for Norwich to handle. We are missing Fabricio Coloccini and Tim Krul, two players anyone would miss – and I expect us to make some sort of howler and give a goal away – but we should still have more class than the Canaries can cope with despite Chris Hughton having his boys up for this one. They are struggling to score this term and have not managed a victory yet. I don’t see that changing now that our first team have rediscovered their desire and spirit following the Everton comeback. Two goal win for the Toon.

A word from Alan Pardew:

“Both of us (Pards and Hughton) could probably look each other in the eye and say we have done a decent job at Newcastle – so far on my part.”

“On his part now (Hughton), he has a different agenda, a different project, and a tough one because Norwich second year in have not really had too much investment in the team – it’s tough. But they have got some good players and had some great results last season. It’s a game that for us would probably put us in the top eight if we won, and that’s obviously where we want to be.”

A word from Chris Hughton:

“I had a very good three years there (at Newcastle). The supporters were excellent towards me in a period of time that wasn’t all good. During those three years we did get relegated and come up again. They were difficult times but the supporters were good to me. I enjoyed the time I spent there and there are a lot of staff and players still there from my time.”

“I am looking forward to going back but it is about the performance. I will feel the occasion better if we give a good account of ourselves. It’s a very difficult place to get a result. They are an extremely good team, one which will be pushing for a Champions League place. It is a daunting place to go but we have a team I would like to think would look forward to that experience and hopefully I can enjoy it better that way.”

“We are conscious that we need to score goals to win football matches. But we have been more solid since that first game (a 5-0 loss to Fulham) which I am pleased about. I could not fault the endeavours of any of the players but we need to start putting some more goals in. There would be a bigger concern if we weren’t creating chances. You’d like to think sooner or later it would turn.”

Referee:

The man in the middle for this one is 42-year-old Preston born Neil Swarbrick. He has been a referee for nine years and was elected to the Select Group last summer. He has not officiated a great deal of top flight games in his time to date and this will be his first in the Premier League this season. He has overseen three of our games so far, we have won two and drawn one. His record for the Norwich games he has taken charge of stands at 2-2-2. Lets hope this man continues to be a lucky charm for us.

Time: 15:00

Date: Sunday 23rd September 2012

Venue: St James’ Park

Howay the lads!

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81 thoughts on “Newcastle v Norwich – Premier League match preview

  1. Really looking forward to our boys playing with passion and incentive to dominate tomorrow. Up front, we could be quite difficult for them to handle. However as Shamrock mentioned, we’re a bit weak at the back. I really hope that Anita will be in the squad as well!

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  2. Good read Shamrock and a lot of good info there, However I wont be giving Clueless Chris much of a welcome 😉
    I expect nothing short of a good performance from the Lads and I don’t expect any excuses for tiredness etc etc and most importantly I expect 3pts 😀

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  3. The last time I was so sure of a win was, well, before the Villa game.

    …Norwich will probably decide now’s the time to kick-start their season. Still, I see a draw at the worst.

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  4. Another good preview Shamrock mate. Sods law I’ve just posted on the previous article 🙄
    playing catch up today like, not long back from Alnmouth.
    Similar expectations to Big Dave to be honest. I’d love a good performance and 3 points but will settle for the 3 points based on the players we will be missing.

    Troy – posted it on the last article as well but hope you and young Chip have a cracking day mate 😉

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  5. good read apart from the unfair dismissal 1 point in 6 games for clueless think we would of went back down would of been close but our saviour sir alan pardew came to the rescue .

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  6. To be fair I like Hughton and he helped get us out of a dark place. But what winds me up is people thinking the sun shone out of his **** and that suddenly he is Mourinho reincarnated.

    Still, nowt to do with us now. Should get a decent reception but times move on and I hope we smash them.

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  7. ‘Clueless Chris’ had even less money than Pards. He did not really have his own team either. I dont think he’s our saviour by the way, just think he was treated badly and did not do a bad job at all considering he had no money and half the players that took us down making up his squad.

    How he can be called clueless is beyond me. Naive maybe, but he did a good job under the circumstances and he does not deserve slagging off that’s for sure. 😯

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  8. I’m sick of the whole Chris Hughton fan club thing on certain blogs, eh hem. Yes the guy was loyal (I would be if I had only ever been an assistant and was manager of NUFC) and did well in the championship (with premier league players). But regardless of club politics etc. Over two attempts in two different seasons, he didn’t look like he had enough to get results in the premier league IMO. There were home games were we were getting beat by minnows and struggling to draw with Wigan FFS. And like batty said 1 point in 6 attempts before the axe fell. I’m just sick of people trying to make it out like he is some great super hero or something. Like he was the sacrificial lamb to evil Ashley’s slaughter or something. He used us to get a foothold in management and he has moved on to manage Birmingham with some success and now Norwich in the Premier League, lets see if he can keep them in the premier league, I won’t be holding my breath.

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  9. Look, Hoots was just too nice a fella, to be our long term manager.
    Sometimes you have to be Mr Nasty and get a fooking grip of the lazy toe rags etc. But in the end he got walked on by the senior players.
    You have to give llambsarse credit for seeing that at least.
    It was just the manner of the sacking that I deplored. No class, and as Geordies we are better than that.
    Still that season in the fizzy pop was was a good one and Hoots helped us turn the corner and got us back into the Prem.
    I wish him well in his managerial career, but hope he comes unstuck tomorrow.
    Howay the Lads

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  10. Of course if the unthinkable should happen, then the love-in will continue, and BIG questions will have to be asked of Pardew. 😕

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  11. It actually sounds like he (Hughton) is already accepting defeat before the game kicks off.
    This is a great oportunity to improve our Goal Diff. Surely.

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  12. @15 – That’s my impression too. Just hope our boys dont take their eye off the ball and treat this as a walk in the park. Yes it can be if they play to their potential, but if they think all they need to do is turn up – they’ll be found out. Seen that too often in the last few months…

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  13. Talking about clueless, I see shitus bumble was up to his usual standards again today. :mrgreen:
    LALAS 😆 😆

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  14. I expect an ugly win tomorrow 2-1 ,hope both Cisse and Ba play and score , with Colo out i think at some point the hapless Williamson will let Holt in for a goal . Would prefer Anita at RB and Perch in the middle with Saylor . One thing is for sure the team needs to get its act together and start playing the way we and they know they can and win the next couple of games .

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  15. Time and time again I said we should have gone in for Pienaar. 3mil for Oba compared to 4.5 mil for Pienaar is a joke 🙄

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  16. Newkie – we probably did, but only offered £2.5M. 😈
    you know our usual lowball efforts.

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  17. Sham yeah he didn’t have his own team because he was only assistant to tugboat Nolan 😆 , and it kills me to say it but the Tugboat and the other senior players that ran the players committee have to take as much credit for getting us back up as Hooters 😉

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  18. Talking of love-ins, the legend that is Steven Taylor better keep his elbows under control more, or he will be seeing alot more red cards this season.
    Who does he think he is ? Shearer 😯
    Seriously tho, he wont get away with it so easy in the PL as he did the other night.

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  19. We really are a fickle bunch when it comes to past players and managers like aren’t we?!. I mean, what’s is this ‘clueless Chris’ **** all about man?, why can’t we just say thanks for what you did and move on. He did a good job at a time of uncertainty at the club and although he had the players, I’m sure there was a greater risk of those players being sold to balance to books than Pardews current squad. He done well to achieve 100 championship points and our home form was excellent. He steadied the ship but was never going to take us to the top was he?! … so, thanks for the job you done … But Pardews boys are gonna give ya new lot a bloody good hiding (we hope).

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  20. Newkie, Pienaar would never have chosen us. His heart is Merseyside blue and he has learnt his lesson in playing for a ‘bigger’ club for more money. Cracking player though.

    Dave – He did not do a bad job. He had his faults, but he deserves a warm welcome. 😉

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  21. BB maybe being a big fan of Saylor im a bit biased but I didn’t think it was that bad, as in intentional as it looked as if he was just using his arms for leverage the sameway Shearer used to do 😉

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  22. Sharpy he got the clueless tag because he only ever set out oneway and that was to defend and go for a draw in almost all games, he normally only made a sub with 10 mins to go. But we all talk about ex players, managers etc so why should he be exempt.
    I made my feelings clear while he was here aswell so I don’t see why when we are talking about him now that I should change my views just because he’s not with us anymore, now that would be very fickle

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  23. Sham I agree he done a decent job, but like Nolan I don’t get all this Legend status that they got, I can remember people on the blog talking about him as being a Toon legend, and I expressed at the time that that was wrong and demeaned the term Legend that SBR etc have because he wasn’t even in the same league, same as Nolan he was often described as the best and most loyal captain since Shearer and well be a Toon Legend 😯 So tbh I think that swayed me even more

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  24. CH by all accounts is a nice man who won the ccc for us with premier players even though his tactics did us no favors. In the Prem he was in over his head. Nothing against him and appreciate what he did for the club but some wanted his likeness done in bronze

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  25. Dave – I take it you were on about his Premier League stint tho?, surely he doesn’t get stick for his Championship season .. does he? 😯

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  26. All of the dismissive comments regarding Hughton’s managerial ability is making me nervous for tomorrow.

    My ideal team tomorrow would be the following:

    ———————————–Elliot———————————-
    Santon————-Taylor————–Williamson———Anita
    ———————–Perch————–Jonas———————–
    Ben Arfa———————Cabaye—————————-Ba
    ———————————-Cisse———————————-

    I don’t think Tiote will make it.

    Looking at it, going forward I would keep that side & just replace Williamson with Colo + Jonas with Tiote. I would actually keep Perch in the team at the Argentine’s expense.

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  27. Dave-Aye, although to be fair I think most of us we “glad to be shot of him” as it were. Guess we were still stuck in the Carroll mode, we needed wingers who could cross, now we just need wingers that can do something, and I’m not sure Oba fits that… 😆

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  28. Fair enough Dave. Not heard anybody call the bloke a legend though ❓ If we all agreed on everyhing this would be a very dull place indeed…

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  29. I did like the guy and I think he was a top coach I just think our club and players were Too Big for him and I don’t think he had enough steel in him to make big decisions but I do wish him well and I think he’ll become a better manager >

    Shamrock @ 36 😯 really mate I heard lots and as I said I debated with them as I didn’t believe it was fair on our real legends that he was being classed along with them.

    The Kid @ 33 the comments wont make any difference to the outcome of the game, but our players well and if we play like we should we’ll have 3 pts from the game 😉

    Sharpy @ 32 same thing again he done well but I believe the senior players had as much say in the team as he had so I guess they all done well, imo he just didn’t have any control over the seniors, and his interviews were ***** and the fact he wouldn’t talk to the media gave them a free rein to talk as much **** about us as they wanted, because a prem manager has to be good with the media otherwise they can destroy you, My pet hate was ” this group of players”

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  30. Nah I liked Hoots. Think some people had a chip against him from the games he was in charge of and we got relegated-some of it was fair as most other footie “fans” all go on about “Hey do you remember when Alan Shearer got you lot relegated LOL” and know absolutely **** all about it, as shearer had nee time and CH didn’t win either did he? So meh.

    But after we came back up people had a go at him for his style, imo he was a good manager but was stuck in the style of play due to our players, but equally played to our strengths. We were disciplined and made the most of set pieces, I.E our best offensive players- Carroll, Nolan and Bartonn. It worked, and I don’t know why people slag him off but there we go.

    What spoiled it a bit for me were the anti-pardew brigade who came in from the start saying he was a smarmy **** and would never do better than hoots, can’t see why you can’t like both altho Pards is obviously my preferred manager.

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  31. It’s definitely time the players put a real shift in. Even if we win tomorrow we are only going to be 8th or 9th by the time Spurs play QPR at home. So really a win tomorrow and at Reading is what is required. We don’t want to get bogged down in the bottom half so it’s time for some of our big names to pull us out of the brown stuff. (I couldn’t give a toss about Hughton or Norwich tbh I’m only interested in what happens to NUFC)

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  32. Dave – I can understand that mate, and I’d probably agree to be fair. I just think the bloke deserves some acknowledgement for the part he played in our success, I’m not saying your opinion is wrong – it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, just think it’s a wee bit harsh.
    Don’t get me wrong, I thought the board was wrong at the time and couldn’t believe they appointed Pardew – but he’s a better manager by far. I’d love to see us go:

    ———— Elliott ———–
    Anita/Saylor/Wllio/Santoon
    —Perch/Cabaye/Jonas—
    ————-Benny———-
    ——Cisse—–Ba———

    As afew have suggest already this week, this formation may allow us to finally see the best out of Benny, Ba and Cisse.

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  33. Sharpy and Newkie I do agree that he deserves credit and I have gave him credit many times, there was just more things I disliked about him as manager than things I liked, and I agree that he was treated like ***** and deserved to be treated with a bit of respect.
    As I touched on I just hated all the love in that surrounded him by so many and I think that helped push me the other way, the same as Tugboat except in Tugboats case I didn’t like him at all 😉

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  34. Yeah Dave I know exactly what you mean. When we were on .org the ***** that some came out with I started to think well who the f*ck is chris hughton anyway because of all the love he got from some, but in hindsight he was still a great guy with some managerial talent and promise and yeah, did get completely shafted by Ashley.

    But it’s worked out well so far… 😉

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  35. DJG – I’d agree with that mate, and 6 points against Norwich and Reading should be perfectly achievable, but the spine of our team is heavily weakened by the absence of Krul, Colo and Tiote like. I’d hope for 6 points, settle for 4 but I’d think any less than that would be disappointing.

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  36. Chris always came across as a very dignified manager which I liked and the 100 points tally ain’t to be sniffed at .Obviously the players were in some cases very dominating and I wouldn’t argue against that ,but end of the day he and the players got us back up which I’m grateful for . I don’t like the way he was discarded but have to concede Pards is the better option for our PL status .I wish Chris well ,just not tommorow 😉

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  37. Shamrock ,good review by the way 😀 I seriously want to see a bloody good showing from the lads tommorow as we been far too slow out the blocks for my liking. Why are we all going for Elliot in goal instead of Harps? .Elliot was o.k on thursday but it’s not like he’s faced really excellent forwards and in previous showing I thought he was poor and one swallow don’t make a summer imo. Is Tiote back and Anita for the game? ,I hope so.

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  38. Shamrock-So it wouldn’t even have been worth attempting to get him? If we went in for him and didn’t get him i’d have no quarrell. Still we had a great chance, he would play for us, there was uncertainty for him when he went back to everton in Jan as some were bitter (they got over it after he started scoring/playing well) and at that time we were going places, Everton were average.

    Plus, we are his boyhood club 😉

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  39. Dave – we completely agree about tugboat then 😉
    Do you think that because it was Pardew that came and not a more higher profile manager, that won Hughton afew more fans (if that makes sense?), what I mean is, because so many said ‘fucking Pardew?, what’s Hughton done wrong like?, is fucking Pardew that much better than Hughton?’ – that sort of mentality. If a more proven or established manager came in, more people may have held so much affection for him?

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  40. SHARPY17
    You say that but I wasn’t disappointed with Harper, Willo or Perch. It was other players that let us down at Everton IMO.

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  41. Kim – I’d go with Elliott over harper simply coz Harper was garbage against Everton. Elliott made some good saves against Maritimo but was also very vocal and seemed to command his position slightly better than Harper did against Everton. I have no really preference in all honestly, but think players should be rewarded for good performances. Neither would keep Krul out but of the 2 games this week, Elliott was better for me like.

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  42. Sharpy, I know what your saying but to be fair to Harps he had the tougher test imo and they was going through our defence like a knife through butter first half ,the poor sod had no protection what so ever. 🙁

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  43. I see our u18s lost 7-1 to man u 😕 , weird that our u21s seem really good but the younger group seems to lose at lot of their games.
    Anyone know if tomorrow’s game will be on any radio station ie talk sport/ 5live? Watched maritimo online, most irritating viewing experience ever, my signal’s too **** for the stream to stay firm.

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  44. Kim – I agree, but I think Harper still should have done better with the goals. Honestly, I think from the angles they were scored from, he should have saved them. That may be a little harsh, and I dont know if Elliott would have saved them, but I think Krul certainly would have. I would have liked to have seen Harper commanding the defence more than he did as well, based on his experience he should have been more involved IMO.

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  45. I was just thinking about how on Monday one of the pundits saying how Pienaar and baines are the best left sided partnership in the PL and were perfect for each other. Couldn’t help thinking what our left side would be like with Baines and Jonas, might encourage Jonas to get forward, and even if he doesn’t Baines would burst forward breaking into the box whilst Jonas would hold back making sure our LB spot isn’t exposed.

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  46. Sharpy-Harper was garbage? A bit strong that like. Considering he had two shocking back passes played to him from saylor and perch(think it was perch?) and a poor pairing ahead of him I thought he did well. Should have got down for the first goal perhaps, but it was quality that cut through most of the team.

    The second he didn’t have much hope, Anichebe with way too much space and a powerful shot.

    I thought harps did well, and showed great sportsmanship along the way. You can say it was unnecessary but imo harps had most of Everton’s *just off target* shot’s covered so meh.

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  47. Sharpy ,it may just be that he’s not been in the first team for a long time or maybe age is catching him up like .I keep thinking about those first few minutes of the game and how Fellani burst through and laid off the ball for their first attempt ,their was no one within a mile of him ,shocking defending ,it was like, on you go mate help yourself . 👿 Don’t wanna see any of that kamakazi defending against the Canaries.

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  48. NEWKIE @56

    Am I right in thinking it was Anichibe that basically snapped Shay Given in half that time and he was out injured with a ruptured bowel. I wouldn’t fancy having to deal with dodgy back passes with that guy charging you down so fair play to Harper because at least once he went flat on his face.

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  49. DJG-Yeah pretty sure that was him. Also Harps was out for a few months after Beckford hacked him out in the same fixture two years ago, so fair play to him, took some stones imo.

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  50. Newkie/Kim – I’m not saying Harper was to blame, what I’m saying is that I’d expect more from the most senior member of the squad.
    Newkie – I know the back pass ya on about and how did he react?, jumped up to save Anichebe a yellow card?!. I want to see I’m in Anichebes face then kicking off with whoever played him into that sort of danger.
    There was also a shot of him lay on the ground blowing out this cheeks as another Everton shot fizzed past his post. He should have been on his feet shouting at defenders man!.
    I expected more organization from him and he didn’t deliver for me like. If he’s in tomorrow I want to see far more from him.

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  51. Sharpy-In anichebe’s face? Cause a massive stir? Sorry like but that was an emotional night in liverpool, bigger stuff than football and causing a shitstorm when there was no need would be disrespectful.

    In their face? Harper just isn’t that kind of lad to be huffing and screaming, but he’ll have had a word with Staylor and i’m sure he’d hold his own hand up. At the end of the day i’m sure he knew he made a mistake, any reason to scream at him for the sake of it? Not if you ask me.

    He can organise a defence, nee worries about that. Better than krul at that if you ask me.

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  52. Watching ******* League highlights in Belgium. It aint the best standard. Some good attacking layers but defensively 😕

    Just seen one bloke get a straight red for a “high foot”. Fair enough given they were both standing and the guys boot was round the other guys head 😆

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  53. (THIS IS A GOVERNMENT HEALTH WARNING. THIS POSTER IS LIABLE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW. ONLY ENGAGE IF YOU AREN’T SENSITIVE AND DON’T TAKE HISSY FITS)

    Well today is the day that young Chip Stavers is the club mascot for today.
    He gets to meet the players in the dressing room and a kick around on the pitch before the game with the players.

    I will be with him in the tunnel as he walks out with the players.

    I don’t know who he walks out with yet but those going to the game or watching on TV or streaming keep an eye out for him. He has long blonde hair like a surfer dude. 10 yrs old. Sweet left foot.

    It must be pretty nerve wracking running onto the pitch in front of 52k fans at 10 yrs old.

    Give him a cheer if you are there and he scores past the keeper. 😆

    Granda Les would be proud of you son!

    Keep an eye out for me at the tunnel. I’ll be wearing my trunks, boots and cape! 😆

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