United had found themselves 2-0 down before strikes from Vurnon Anita and Shola Ameobi levelled the match before half-time. A win in our next Europa League group game – at home to Maritimo in a fortnight – will be enough to ensure European football beyond the new year.
The reality is that Newcastle could and probably should have won on the night, but two lapses in concentration from two of our most reliable players cost us dear and ensured we found ourselves struggling to get the win before getting going in the match.
The home side started brightly but the first chance of the game fell to Newcastle through Gabriel Obertan, who was out through by a backheel from Shola Ameobi. Unfortunately the shot from Obertan was unconvincing and was neither powerful enough nor accurate enough to seriously worry Bojan Jorgacevic in the Brugge goal.
Brugge did look good when attacking quickly though, and it was that approach that saw them take the lead with nearly fifteen minutes on the clock. Ivan Trickovski controlled a long punt forward before turning inside Fabricio Coloccini and finishing past Tim Krul. For me Coloccini should have done better and could have perhaps learned from the goal Luis Suarez scored on Sunday, but I’ll probably get lynched for daring to suggest such a thing…
Speaking of things, they went from bad to worse just five minutes later when the home side doubled their lead. Jesper Jorgensen latched on to a weak headed clearance from James Tavernier before firing a shot at goal. I feel bad for saying firing as the shot wasn’t exactly filled with power, but it still somehow managed to evade Tim Krul and find the corner of the goal. I think Krul could have dealt with it a lot better, but I’ll probably get lynched for daring to suggest such a thing.
It will all be Mike Williamson’s fault I’m sure…
However there was a positive to come out of going two goals down, and that one is that we actually started to play a bit and assert ourselves on the game. Chances soon followed, with Gabriel Obertan creating a cracking one for Sylvain Marveaux who somehow contrived to kick nothing but fresh air when the ball was squared to him. Shocking.
The two Ameobi’s, the first two brothers to start for United since the days of the Robledo’s apparently, then combined to carve out enough chance. Younger brother Sammy crossed from the right wing while Shola forced the Brugge ‘keeper to tip over the bar.
Newcastle finally got back into the game through Vurnon Anita scoring his first goal for the club since his summer move from Ajax. The Netherlands international latched onto a defensive clearance from Brugge and volleyed the ball straight back at goal finding the far corner of the net. Not a bad way to open an account at a new club.
Just two minutes later and United were level. Sammy Ameobi played the ball through for his younger brother who advanced on goal and prodded past Jorgacevic to restore parity just before half-time.
Half-time: Club Brugge 2-2 Newcastle
The second half was a much quieter affair although Newcastle were most definitely on top at the start of the period. They continued to create chances although admittedly none of them were exactly guilt-edged. Yohan Cabaye did hit the crossbar with what looked to me to be cross from a free-kick.
However Newcastle seemed to drop off the boil in the final stages of the match and Brugge threatened to grab a winner. Tim Krul saved well from headers by Carl Hoefkens and Mohammed Tchite before Jesper Jorgensen went close a minute from time after a cleverly worked corner routine.
But no more goals were forthcoming and the match ended in a draw despite a succession of late corners from United.
Full-time: Club Brugge 2-2 Newcastle
I don’t know what to make of this result. I’m pleased we got the draw but in a way I saw enough from us to think we could and probably should have won the game. I guess I have to happy with a point away from home at the end of the day bearing in mind we done it once again with what is largely classed our second-string side.
Ultimately two lapses in concentration cost us dearly and ensured we were at a handicap before the game was twenty minutes in. A shame really considering we weren’t exactly under vast swathes of pressure when the goals were conceded.
Mind you once again we showed great character to come back into the match. it would have been easy to hide away and lose heart, but they didn’t which deserves credit.
They say if you win your home games and draw your home games you’ll do well in Europe, and that is proving to be the case. Follow that pattern in our next European fixture and we’ll have qualified from Group D with a game to spare.
Howay the lads!
Club Brugge: Bojan Jorgacevic; Tom Hogli, Carl Hoefkens, Michael Almeback, Jordi Figueras; Maxime Lestienne, Ryan Donk, Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe, Ivan Trickovski; Jesper Jorgensen; Carlos Bacca
Subs: Vladan Kujovic, Mohammed Tchite, Bjorn Vleminckx, Bart Buysse, Bjorn Engels, Birger Verstraete, Nathaniel Lagrou
Newcastle: Tim Krul; Vurnon Anita, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, James Tavernier; Gael Bigirimana, Cheik Tiote; Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi; Shola Ameobi
Subs: Rob Elliot, Shane Ferguson, Davide Santon, Steven Taylor, Yohan Cabaye, Romain Amalfitano, Papiss Cisse
Attendance: 18,000 – Making a mockery of the decision not to offer us more than the 2,600 we ended up with.
Totally agree with you Collocini hasn’t been his best the last couple of games. Hopefully the Liverpool game hasn’t knocked his confidence a bit but it looks as if he is finding it hard to keep up especially with faster players. Hopefully he will be back to his brilliant best soon.
lualua17(Quote)
I had high hopes for last night with what I thought was a strong line-up to be honest.
I agree about Colo. I think when the play is infront of him he’s a class act, but turn him with a bit of pace and he’s struggling at the moment.
Krul had a bit of a stinker last night as well.
What’s disappointing is that we started and finished too slow. When we played in the middle we looked good but we were already 2-0 down by then.
I know with the number of games were playing its realistic to play high intensity football for 90mins, but I think we need to work on when we play and when we slow down abit.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Think a lot of our fringe players are showing their worth this season, people like tav, bigi that don’t even have any pl experience are coping fairly well in Europe.
Didn’t rate sameobi before this season but he’s got some real raw talent, that flick over the player on the wing was world class.
shola again showing he is a valuable asset and worthy of a bit part role this season. he’s been better than cisse in every aspect this season.
Obertan has been our best player in Europe, he may be terrible in the league but i can’t understand why people want rid, our squad players are for these sorts of games so why get rid of someone that is performing in them 😕
marv was poor again, but as was noted on the previous thread, hba has much more talent but even he took a while to get back into the swing.
All in all it’s been a successful few weeks, if we had beaten villa at home it would actually have been a very, very good start to the season. next few games are crucial.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I must have watched a different game to everyone else (going by the comments on the previous thread) and the group of old boors in the pub, whom I pulled when I left.
Marv looked classy, and unlike a few of our players his first touch was quality. It is something that can easily be missed watching on TV. I thought he was very unlucky to fluff his big chance in front of goal. Putting that away might have changed his season, which now lies in the balance.
I think Krul did very well, and was unlucky for their goal.
Sammy was fairly quiet but showed he’s got bags of potential.
LIttle boy lost scored a peach. Lets hope his performance helps his confidence in the EPL, where he is struggling big time.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Yup Collo at fault for 1st goal although it unluckily bounced off his leg into the path of the Bruge striker, thought Tav had a decent game defensively but a terrible defending header
Sammi was poor after an hour and gave the ball away a lot
Marv was okay in patches but again was sloppy at times
Shola was … well shola, frustrating and good at the same time
For me Obertan / Anita were probably the best players on the pitch
stevep(Quote)
ST – I think Obertan and Marv are suited to French or European football, which is why they have looked better in Europa than the EPL. Don’t forget that Oba was at Man U before us so has had ample time to get used to the EPL.
We have 5-6 players in our squad at the moment who just aren’t good enough in my opinion and showing no signs of improvement. We also have players who are playing as well as they can, but aren’t going to take us forward, and therefore also need replacing.
Players show clubs no loyalty so I don’t understand why we would give time to players who have shown no improvement. Don’t get me wrong, I know players go through bad spells and should be given time to refind their form. I’m talking about players who have had 18mth-2yrs and shown little to no improvement.
Newkie – I know you said on the last article to send them on loan, but how often?. We’ve had Xisco 5yrs and loaned him out most of it.
I think if Pardew can’t decide if a player has an active future at the club, a loan deal won’t help.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Good read Toonsy and I agree with most of it.
It was a funny old game in that I was happy with the draw but think we should have won, but at the sametime I think we were lucky because we gave them plenty of chances but they couldn’t convert them.
Big Dave(Quote)
@Sharpy
But isn’t our standing in the Europa so far proof that they are good enough?
I think our starting XI is in greater need of improvement atm than our back up players, we need people like Perch etc as it’s impossible to have 22 top quality players. Even if we could afford it, it’s impossible to keep them all happy.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
decent and probably fair result – dunno why ESPN comm’s thought we battered them. As others said the start and finish was poor, but we did make 9 changes i think. So not too bad.
BIGPAPA(Quote)
Once (if) Anita adapts we’ll only need 3 players for a top quality starting XI.
New CB, which means we’ll then be set in that position, as Saylor will go 3rd choice, Willo 4th choice and both will probably be fine as squad players.
New RB, hopefully Simmo will stay and compete, otherwise we have Tav developing.
New LW forward, so we can play 4-2-3-1, it’s likely one of Ba/Cisse will go, if we replace them with a young striker with potential and a winger so that we can play that formation I’ll be fine with that.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Can any help with a problem.
I’m looking for someone to contact in NUFC . The NUFCtv is fucking useless and each time i use it i have to almost renew my subsription. I have checked my statements and they have unbelievably been charging my upto 3/4 times a month .. cheeky barstewards.
Does anyone know of any way i can contact someone about this?
any help will appreciated
BIGPAPA(Quote)
non related of course – but hate the thought of potentially paying ashely 20quid a month !
BIGPAPA(Quote)
To be honest it was a decent result last night, would have taken a draw before the game and would have snatched an arm off at 2-0 down
We’re basically playing our reserves and still topping the group
Win against Maritimo and we’re prob through as group leaders and hopefully relatively easy opposition.
I still find it unbelievable that the teams get to drop straight into the knockout stage of Europa for coming THIRD in champions league – no wonder teams take it lightly
stevep(Quote)
ST – not in my opinion mate. We don’t have 2 teams (EPL and Cup games) we have 1 squad, and if we have injuries or suspensions we should be able to call on the second string to do a good job. If you look at the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City they can make 2,3 or 4 changes and it not really effect how they play. Spurs and Arsenal have stronger squad.
Everton had made big improvements to their squad and you can be sure Liverpool will as well.
If we’re saying that we are happy to accept that some squad players will only play OK in cup games then we are going to fall well behind and be qualifying for Europe again anytime soon.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy-Xisco is an exceptional case really. For me, I’d have loaned Marv out from the get go, maybe for half a season or so, anywhere, just to get him fit and sharp. His chances have been so piecemeal lately….similarly, as soon as we bought Bigi AND Anita in, Abeid should have been loaned out straight away, we’ve got Gosling, Jonas, Cabaye, Anita, Perch, Tiote, Bigi and even Colo who can play in that DM role, get Abeid some game time..
It’s so refreshing to have a post match thread where there’s no Willo/Simmo witchhunt 😀 Still, if Anita can keep scoring peaches like that, Simmo’s got serious competition..
Newkie(Quote)
BigPapa…these are the contact numbers but I think they are premium rate numbera 08443721892 non uk- +448704441892
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or you could try the cheeky approach and try one of these who may transfer you to the correct dept and then hopefully you won’t pay the premium rate(it does work sometimes-I’ve done it myself
0191 201 8455-Box Office manager
0191 201 8427 & 0191 201 8494- both are for the club shop
or there’s a form on this page you can complete online:
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/TV/ContactUs
richietoon(Quote)
How we only lost two games this campaign?…. it’s an incredible feat because it seems that our whole team is ****!! Well thats the conclusion I have come to based on what I read on here…..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie, we’ve lost three mate 😆
Newkie(Quote)
Richie, you’ll get the sack if Ash finds out you’re cheating him out of premium rate dolla! 😉
Newkie(Quote)
I Don’t count the shitty cup games Newkie 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
We don’t want an “incredible feat”….it’s incredible feet we want 😉
The scum have lost the same amount of games, they’re **** 😉
richietoon(Quote)
You been on walkabout strop?
richietoon(Quote)
Newkie…I doubt it, I’m “sackless” apparently 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Pretty much much Rich.. been up north in Port Hedland and Karratha. Real hot up that way, good beer drinking weather..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Much much??? … feckin sunstroke 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aye, it’s been a tad warm, read about that lad who died (park ranger or similar I think) who’s car got stuck and him and his mate tried to walk the 10 miles to the station, his mate made it…just 🙁 ..45c I think it said.
richietoon(Quote)
Yes homies!!!
Jay Jay(Quote)
Yep, that was in Qld. Got their car bogged and had no water with them.. Had to walk 16 clicks and one didn’t make it back. The same thing would happen up north in WA. The heat is fecking brutal!!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
whaahey….it’s a little leprechaun 😉
richietoon(Quote)
It’s nasty like, was touching 50c just before I came back from the Gulf, which is why it made it so much sweeter when we nicked the guts from my Sgt’s aircon in his office and slung it 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Alreet lads? Long time no speak! Sadly didn’t get to watch the stream as it doesn’t work on the shitty iPad! It seems we’re not a big enough club for itv as they only play bin dippers and spuds EVERY time. Twats.
Someone made a comment that obertan is good in Europe and not in the PL. I’d have to agree by the write ups he’s getting.
I see that as a shame.
I still don’t know why he doesn’t use his speed to his advantage. At every home game when he gets the ball I scream JUST RUN!!!!!
He fails to take my advice and decides to do a **** dribble or a back pass, or just loses it all together. He should listen to me, I won the premier league 3 seasons on the bounce with nufc 😉
Nobby(Quote)
(In champ man) 😆
Nobby(Quote)
sadistic ******* 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie..It was the night before we flew back, and he had another week there 😆 ….I wouldn’t mind but he was a canny lad
Bloody hell, Nobby too. All the partimers are coming back 😉
richietoon(Quote)
What’s your feeling for this weekends game Rich ?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
3 points thankyou very much, ain’t gonna be easy but I think we’ll win 😀
richietoon(Quote)
I don’t know Sharpy, the top 3 are a different kettle of fish. Even Man Utd have the drop in talent, Vidic -> Evans 😯
Looking at Liverpool’s line up last night I would argue that we definitely have a better second string than them and Everton.
I think our squad players have been decent when called upon this season. We may be a couple of seasons away from squads like Arsenal and Tottenham, but even so, 1 and 3 points away from them both, with probably a harder opening set of fixtures, maybe also more injuries than them.
If the performances had been better (not that they were fantastic last year anyway) I would be claiming that our squad has adapted to Europe tremendously.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I think we can take the points as well…… we will just make a real meal of it in the process 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie…if it’s easy, it ain’t NUFC 😉
richietoon(Quote)
🙂 🙂 Too feckin true mate….
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
How’s things Richie you ****?
Jay Jay(Quote)
Jay…same old same old mate, still waiting for bloody house move, doesn’t look like it’ll happen befoe I go home for Xmas.
You still prostitutiing yesel about?
richietoon(Quote)
I’m a very busy man! 😆
Nobby(Quote)
Nobby…Do you not mean that they’ve cottoned onto using your work computer for blogging 😆
richietoon(Quote)
RICHIETOON
November 9, 2012 at 13:30
I’m “sackless” apparently
😆
Always thought your wife was harsh on you Richie 😉
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie….she is, hopefully the next one will go easier on me 😆 …reet off oot for a steak
richietoon(Quote)
Aye Richie, trying my best mate
Jay Jay(Quote)
Newkie – we can’t loan every ****** out mate 😆 The only concern I have about loaning players out is that different teams have different formations and tactics, plus there’s no guarantee of them getting games. I’m not against loaning players out but it need to be the right player to the right club.
Aussie – Have we won the rest of them like?. Stop dramatizing things man, I’ve never called
anyone ****. I don’t think we’re playing well, if you’re happy with what ya watching fair enough, you’re more easily pleased than I.
ST – our squad is better than Lpool, Brendan Rodgers would probably agree with that as he’s clearly desperate to strengthen. Re Vidic for Evans, I don’t expect the second string to be of equal quality but I do think I don’t think some of our second string players are good enough and need moving on and replacing.
Sharpy17(Quote)
That is correct!
Nobby(Quote)
Richie 😆 This one will be fine, you just need to whip her into shape. Ask Aussie for some tips maybe…. 🙄
Sharpy-I’m not saying everyone, but those two had to go for me. Marv has barely played in the last two years, and Abeid hasn’t played at all competitively since he’s been here, almost a year and a half isn’t it? If he’s any good, then he’s being wasted…
Newkie(Quote)
Sharpy are you only catching on now that Aussie is easy pleased ❓ ,thats being so fond of Jabba and co he is now happy with any scraps that fall of Jabba’s plate 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
@Sharpy
Fair, I just don’t think a big upheaval is required.
I think by strengthening the first team we have some players on our books that will accept being on the fringes, therefore improving the quality of our back up – eg Saylor and Jonas. If we got new, improved players in their positions I doubt they’d kick up a fuss and leave.
I would love for Simmo to be second choice RB unfortunately he takes so much stick from fans I don’t see why he would.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
(THIS IS A GOVERNMENT HEALTH WARNING. THIS POSTER IS LIABLE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW. ONLY ENGAGE IF YOU AREN’T SENSITIVE AND DON’T TAKE HISSY FITS)
I’m not happy with Pards decision to play a weakened side in Europe.
We have been lucky on a few games and if it wasn’t for the **** finishing of the opposition then we could well have been out already.
Is Pards going to stick with the youngsters throughout the tournament? What happens if we qualify and come up against the bigger teams?
We would have no chance playing the teams he’s started with so far.
The opposition last night looked woeful yet they caused us problems.
I wish he would play his strongest side and if we are comfortable, being on the young guns. We now have to go to Mari and Bordeaux needing wins.
As far as the players go. I think Sammi is a long long way off being an established premier footballer. It looks like he’s gonna fool as many as his brother did. 😯
The only reason Oba plays well in Europe is simply down to the standard of the opposition.
He’s not good enough and anyone who hasn’t realised it yet needs to wake up.
I thought Chris Waddle was correct about their first goal. Krul was too close to his line and needed to narrow the distance. The shot was timed at 2 mph and I’m sure it actually stopped at one point but the wind caught it and it sped up to a max of 3mph.
Apart from that, Krul saved us in the end 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Next summer we’re rid of Xisco, freeing up 50k/pw. In my opinion we should sell both Marv and Obertan in the summer, this will create more money to go into the club to invest in other positions. With those two gone there will be far more opportunities for Sammy and Fergie to develop. A CB and a full-back can then be signed and we’ll have a great XI and a very competent squad.
Andymag(Quote)
What are you on about Troy. We’re top of the group with a HOME game, not away against the team who hasn’t won yet and we’ve done that playing a second string side. Why would you want to tire out the first team when the second can get it done? Pards has said, and I think we’d all agree that the Prem is priority although once into the second round of Europa I’m sure we’ll see some fairly strong lineups.
Brendan(Quote)
@Troy
Laughable
Why are you speculating on what Pardew “might” do in later rounds.
Evidence is: Pardew has played weakened teams in the Europa
We are top of the group
We play the bottom team at home next game, a win securing our qualification, before Spurs & Liverpool.
P!sses me off when people moan about something that “might” happen, if it happens in later rounds, then moan, but not without any evidence that it will.
Same with the people that used to claim that Ashley was just going to “strip the club of it’s top players” every summer at just avoid relegation in the league. 🙄 Where are they now?
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Why do people want Obertan gone 😯
He’s on a pittance, and has performed well in Europe, who knows, this may translate into league performances.
Just can’t understand the logic. So we sell a player happy to fight for his place, and have to find someone that:
Is young
Happy to play second fiddle most the time to HBA
Isn’t on too expensive wages as he’ll be on the bench most the time
Can deliver better performances in fleeting Europe appearances then Oba
Doesn’t break the bank as isn’t a first team player
Suggestions anyone 😕
We don’t pay high enough wages to attract truly quality back up players to come and sit on the bench here. Fact.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Troy I agree with you on Sammy headless chicken comes to mind 😉
ST Obertan is on a pittance ? How do you know that ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
@Dave
The same way we all “know” Xisco is on 50k a week. Media rumours and football manager 😉
General estimates are sub 20k
If anyone can think of someone that fits all the criteria I mentioned then I’ll agree, we should improve. Otherwise the best option is to buy young potential, and hope they develop to surpass the first team.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I have a strange mix of optimism and pessimism about the club. The optimism comes from some of the younger players like Bigi, Sammy, and Ferguson who are definitely improving. The pessimism comes from realizing that we are stuck with Llambias and an owner who apparently has no football ambition because he has Llambias as managing director. We are a well run business now in terms of profit/loss but will it translate into trophies? We have already had 4 plus seasons of Ashley and things are going in the right direction up until now but the next 2 or 3 years will be very challenging with the Ashley method and I think we will end up somewhere around 8th on average over the 3 years with no silverware. Still we can hope for more.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
From what I read early on about Xisco he is on 35K a week which is still and atrocious amount of money to be paying him. He has had a rough ride at Newcastle but hasn’t helped himself with his performances on loan. His goal/game ratio is horrific. Mistakes like him are a huge burden on the club and point out the risks of long term contracts to young players as well as the rewards. The same applies with Ranger although we are only paying him 3.5K per week. Still what a waste as well.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Newkie – if they were any good they’d be playing!!
That’s my point mate. Maybe (hopefully) Pardew has said nobody out on loan so I can look at you all and see who I want to keep and who’s going.
Our squad is small and we’ve had injuries, yet Abied and Marv aren’t even making the bench in league games, and Abied isn’t even making the Europa games. That’s suggests to me that Pardew doesn’t rate him, if so then get rid and bring someone else in.
ST – Yes to all of the above, because I don’t see us getting into Europe next season, so what’s Oba gonna do then?. As for him playing well in Europe – he’s played better than what he has in the league, but he hasn’t been outstanding from what I’ve seen. I can’t speak for everyone but the reason I’m singling Oba out most of the time is coz he’s had the most opportunity to prove himself, both last season and this, and he was at Man Utd before that so have experience of the English game.
Big Dave – I don’t mind people disagreeing with me or having different opinions on things, but some people only seem to post about other people’s comments and rarely leave their own views about how things are going – and regularly miss quote you 👿 🙄
Sharpy17(Quote)
G2
“We are only paying him 3.5k/pw.” ONLY 3.5k!!!! If I was getting that, I’d turn up to training an hour early and help put the cones out, I’d then help the kit-man get all the boots and strips ready. In two months he’s earned what the average annual pay in the UK is, what has he done in that time? Beaten up tax paid police officers and wasted a courts time, so he isn’t just ripping newcastle off, he’s wasting the publics money. 😡 😡 😡
Andymag(Quote)
Sharpy
Wasn’t abeid playing with the 1st team in pre-season? Seem to recall him being the stand-out performer (or am I mixing him up with bigi?). He was supposed to be great last year for the reserves as well and I think he was due to be loaned out but nothing came of it. Marv does seem like a waste though, he did play some good passes yesterday but he lacks enthusiasm and just seems lackluster when on the ball, he’s not one of the younger players so should be compotent enough to know what he needs to do to get into the team.
Andymag(Quote)
@Andy
It’s disgusting. I got on the ol’ calculator the other week and worked out (I thought he was on 5k a week), that he can just sit on his contract for 5 years, never work a day again in his life, and still average out at above the national average salary for his working lifetime (50 years)
And we wonder why the England team has gone to pot 🙄 Players in Brazil etc, have to fight to get good wages (that’s why when they come to the big bucks in Europe they go party crazy 😆 ), even in germany, where outside the top league there isn’t much revenue players have to fight to get the really good wages.
Here if you’re an 18 year old at a Prem club, you’ll be on a good enough wage already that you never need to bother improving. And if you end up wasting your potential you can still pick up much more than most people all the way down to league 2 👿
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
ST so you don’t really know what money he gets, your only speculating on what he gets.
Big Dave(Quote)
@Sharpy
Yeah for the length of time he’s been here he should definitely have shown greater signs of improvement. But it seems to finally be edging there, so I’m quite happy to see if it continues.
He tore Bordeaux apart, got the winner against Brugge, and caused a few problems last night again. Credit where it’s due imo. Long way from the first team, but helping us undoubtedly in Europe at the minute.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Strange game last night ,started **** gifted the opo two goals then perked up 🙄 .Beats me why we have to go behind to get some impetus so often. Plus points for me were Anita and up to a point Sammi though he needs to beef up, fill out a bit more as does Anita imo. I would agree that Oba looks better in these games due to oposition we’ve faced so far and Colo had an off day ,has the league sending off rattled him?. At the end of the day a draw will do and we will beat Maritimo at home or we want shooting. 😉 . Anyone know what the hell is happening with Abied? ,I thought we was loaning him out but he seems to have vanished 😕 .
KIMTOON(Quote)
@Dave
You’ve picked all my nits already man. Why not have a go on someone else on here that’s speculating on wages. 🙄
Add 10k on his wage for all I care, I still think we’d be hard pushed to find someone to replace him easily. Youth potential is the only way forward for us.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Spot on Andymag @63 and Solanostrumpet @65. Then thinking about what Xisco is getting at 35K a week! It sickens me. Surely any young new players must have non-performance termination clauses in their contracts to prevent this sort of thing from continuing? Since it involves money surely Llambias and Ashley are right on top of it? Let’s hope so.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Kimtoon @68 yes our poor starts have hurt us badly this season. Why does it happen so often? The shakiness at the back was disturbing since we had Colo and Willo back there to start. Teams know our weakness is balls over the top causing both of them to have to turn and chase which they aren’t that good at. When Colo can play as last man and sweeper he can keep the ball in front of him and then he is brilliant. I thought he tried to push up the field too much against Brugge and then we can be suspect. Krul must dread seeing Colo charge up the field.
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Xisco’s wages annoy me but I don’t blame Xisco for it, he seems like a nice lad and from what I’ve heard the lads in the team like him and he works very hard in training, that is why I can stomach what he’s getting. Ranger is getting a tenth (at least) of Xisco’s wages but doesn’t show any effort to earn what he’s getting and just commits various fellanies(spelling?).
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It’s a mystery how he’s still employed ,Ranger that is. In any other job if you acted as he has done you’d be out on your ear. Can’t they fire him for damaging the clubs reputation or something. 😕
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Andy – bang on about Ranger, hope he’s put some away for a raining day coz he’ll do we’ll to find a job that pays the average annual wage when we get rid of him – I don’t see another club touching him to be honest.
Re Abied, no you’re spoke on mate – he was stand out in pre season and to my understanding has been decent in the reserves. But for whatever reason Pardew doesn’t play him.
ST – I’m not trying to change your opinion mate, and fair play for having more patients than me. I just think, is he better or worse than Routledge who we got rid of for peanuts and replaced with £3m for Oba. I don’t believe for the money it’s cost that we have a better player – but that’s just my opinion mate.
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I see your poiint Andymag. The two aren’t really comparable in their behaviour/attitude. Ranger reminds me of a young Barton with no respect for other people or the club that is paying them. I suppose there will always be a few louts with talent hanging around the game.
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