Of course it’s never nice losing a game, but as soon as I saw the team-sheet I knew we’d be in trouble and to be fair it isn’t the result that is getting to me.
Instead it’s the performance of what are largely backup players who failed to cover themselves in any glory when there was a chance to put down a marker for a spot in the first-team. With a chance to impress only a couple of players took the opportunity to shine with the rest proving why there is such a distinct difference between this season and last.
In many ways last season was built on through the strength of players itching to prove a point, players like Ryan Taylor and Leon Best who would get a chance and try to impress enough to keep their place in the first-team. We haven’t had that this season and the only players to come out of the defeat yesterday with any real credit are Vurnon Anita and Gael Bigirimana.
The truth is that Newcastle deserved to go out yesterday and were second best in pretty much every department. Sure it’s good news for our fixture list as we set about trying to maintain Premier League survival, but the fact remains that it’s another game we lost, and we’ve lost another player to boot after Shola Ameobi became the scapegoat for Lee Probert and the home crowd.
I’m also sort of blaming the fact we were down to ten men for the result but it was with eleven men when we were at our worst and Brighton deservedly took the lead just after the half hour mark after Wayne Bridge crossed for Andrea Orlandi to volley past Rob Elliot. James Perch had already cleared off the line and the best that Newcastle could offer in return were long range efforts from Gael Bigirimana, Shola Ameobi and Vurnon Anita, none of which looked likely to beat Casper Ankergren in the Brighton goal.
Shola Ameobi saw red in the 63rd minute after picking up a second yellow meaning that he will now miss the game with Norwich next weekend. In truth it was a harsh red when you look at the offences individually, but in a weird way it brought out the best in United and we actually started to play a bit with Sylvain Marveaux – on for Gabriel Obertan – looking to pull some strings.
However with just a few minutes left on the clock Brighton put the away side out of their misery and after Mike Williamson got caught the wrong side of Will Buckley the Brighton forward had the simple task of slotting the ball past Rob Elliot.
Another season and another FA Cup exit to a lower league team although on the day you’d be hard pushed to suggest just who was supposed to be the Premier League in all of this. Job done in terms of fixture list reduction, but it’s no real consolation to fans at the end of the day.
Howay the lads!
Brighton: Casper Ankergren, David Lopez, Gordon Greer, Adam El-Abd, Wayne Bridge, Dean Hammond, Liam Bridcutt, Gary Dicker, Andrea Orlandi, Craig Mackail-Smith, Ashley Barnes
Subs: Tomasz Kuszczak, Lewis Dunk, Andrew Crofts, Will Buckley, Stephen Dobbie, Kazenga LuaLua, Will Hoskins
Newcastle: Rob Elliot, James Tavernier, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Davide Santon, Gael Bigirimana, Vurnon Anita, Sammy Ameobi, Mehdi Abeid, Gabriel Obertan, Shola Ameobi
Subs: Tim Krul, Paul Dummett, Shane Ferguson, Sylvain Marveaux, Romain Amalfitano, Adam Campbell, Nile Ranger
Attendance: 21,740
Can we but players who are in the middle of season long loans? Is Carroll on a season’s loan? Inlike Lukaku, may be expensive though?
Shamrock(Quote)
*can we BUY players*
Shamrock(Quote)
Not sure Chelsea would let him go either. 19 though LST – shows how far behind our lot are!
Shamrock(Quote)
hopefully we’ll here soon about new players.
The Chron 🙄 said we had delegates in France at the weekend discussing several players. Well theyre back now so probs by the end of the week we should find out if we have secured any of them.
mark(Quote)
Anybody really think we’re going to buy quality this window? Does Pardew even recognise it? That embarrassment of a team on Saturday had at least 5 players not up to championship standard. At least we should expect effort which only Anita and Bigi provided.
Trust Pardew’s judgement? Believe what he says?
georgio(Quote)
There had been reports of Newcastle having a strong representation in France to discuss a possible move and reports today in France say that Newcastle are trying to sign Remy.
The French press are also reporting that Gazetta Dello Sport are saying that Inter have offered a loan deal but the player would prefer a permanent move for whoever he signs for and is awaiting offers from elsewhere…
mark(Quote)
According to my journo friend remy is in tyneside for talks.
Ahem I apologise he has probably been drinking
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Ive read somewhere that remy has a heart defect is that right?
Not another ba?
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Liam ,He does yes but has been signed off as fit to play and I’m sure they check on him regular. If he comes here his ticker will certainly be working overtime with the position we’re in. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Troy at 371. There’s a lot of truth in your post IMO. Our poor defense 9going on several years now) has forced our MF to play way too defensive and, as you say, we we gnerally only scored form sheer moments of brilliance for Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba (and to a lesser extent cabaye and raylor freekicks). Defense needs to be finally addressed so we can play Cabaye in a true AM role, and change to tactic of playing Jonas as essentially a 5th defender.
MDS(Quote)
change THE tactic^^^
MDS(Quote)
Apparently an official Olympique Marseille twitter account tweeted this link. It also states he is due in Newcastle to take a look at the facilities in St James Park before signing.
http://www.footmercato.net/premier-league/transferts/info-fm-loic-remy-vers-newcastle_98473
“FM, OM info: Loic Remy to Newcastle! 07/01/2013-15 h 34 English football” transfers 39CommentairesRemy is in England© MaxpppPas seduced by QPR project despite the presence of Harry Redknapp in Marseille, Loic Remy should finally engage in the coming hours with Newcastle.Newcastle is the successor of Demba Ba. Frustrated seeing the Senegalese filer to Chelsea against only 9 M€, the Magpies responded very quickly. And after recruiting the lateral right Lille Mathieu Debuchy, it is still in France that the Toons have solved their offensive problem. According to our information, Loic Remy should engage with the current Premier League 15th in the coming hours.After two and a half years past on Canebiere (28 goals in 74 games in L1), tricolor international is currently in the northeast of England to visit the facilities of the Magpies before signing his contract. No financial details of the case leaked, but the transaction will turn no doubt around the 10 M€, or a little more.Helmed by Andre – Pierre Gignac and Jordan Ayew, Remy chose exile to relaunch itself. At Newcastle, he will experience his first experience abroad as well and will not be lost with the presence of many Frenchies (Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Davie, Amalfitano, man) in the workforce driven by Alan Pardew. Now question is in what position will evolve Remy.Striker, he will have to do to remove a Papiss Cisse finally relieved of the competition from Demba Ba. Except surprise, Remy should therefore start his adventure in the Tyneside on the right flank. Finally, meanwhile, OM will have every opportunity to go looking for “corridor forward” announced by Jose Anigo “in case of departure of Remy.”
3hourswasted(Quote)
3Hours ,that kinda backs up Liams journo pal @382
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim – or maybe my journo pal likes twatter! Haha
Like they say journos only get it wrong if it isnt made up! 😆
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
I fail to see how remy will replace bas goals. Hes going to need time to settle adapt etc aint going to be easy.
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
if tru this would be excellent news. reports i have seen this guy is fast and can score goals. good stuff 3hourswasted
mark(Quote)
@Liam Southern Toon
I’d rather see Remy try and replace Ba’s goals then nothing or Ranger or Shola
mark(Quote)
Mark – I agree but why not go for someone with premier league experience like an odemwengie, long, bent or for the short term until summer?
We need a goalscorer for 6 months not in 6 months
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Don’t know if there is any truth in the story to be honest. Seen a lot of these over the last few years. There are rumours Remy is with OM in Marrakesh and not at SJP – who knows but guess we will find out soon enough.
3hourswasted(Quote)
Well if he’s here then another body through the door with more ability than the other options currently available to us. Can only be a good, but he wont be firing on all cylinders for a while…
If he’s in then lets get a good CB sharpish and get on with saving our season.
Between now and summer I think we need a few signings;
2 x Striker
2 x Cb
1 Full Back
1 good winger
Lets go the following;
Ranger, Xisco, Simmo, Gosling, Abeid, Amalftino, Sammy, Tav, Willo.
Shamrock(Quote)
Maybe we can get an extra striker in on loan? End of the day Cisse & a rusty Remy is still not ideal. We need more cover for the starting line up because imo Shola is only good for the odd 20 mins…
Shamrock(Quote)
Totally agree sham – odemwengie would be ideal even for £2m, fairly quick, can score with both feet.
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
@Liam Southern Toon
I don’t know why we don’t try for long etc, its very frustrating not acknowledging players tried and tested already plying their trade in the Prem.
I can’t see Long being on a huge wage and wouldnt cost as much as Remy..
mark(Quote)
I cannot quite see him being here just yet. I think we’d have known a bit more about it if it was true.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – it is only one website so take what you want from it.
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Yeah, he can do a shift out wide too…
Shamrock(Quote)
Posted 07 Jan 2013 16:09
re: Loic Remy – Latest
Lee Ryder [!]8207;@lee_ryder
Remy not on Tyneside just yet – despite reports in France. Quest to sign the player still “ongoing” from what I’ve been told #nufc
3hourswasted(Quote)
Good old Lee Ryder, always there to **** on your’e fireworks 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
@F8Piraux: Newcastle want Rémy but no offer for the moment. Loïc is at Marrakech with OM squad. #OM #NUFC
3hourswasted(Quote)
when has lee ryder known anything,mmmmmmmm let me think,bloody never,only get his imfo from press office at toon,anybody think they would tell him owt,no chance 😉
icedog(Quote)
Remy came to say hello to barnetta then buggered off again 😉
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
So the whole world and his uncle know of our interest in Remy yet we still havn’t made an offer 🙄 This will drag on all window and end in stalemate or him going elsewhere and we’ll be left with Cisse and Shola .Let’s hope Cisse don’t get crocked ,have you considered this prospect mikey? we don’t want you and Pards coming out later saying we didn’t think that might happen now do we 😉 . Also where’s our new CB too ,slow off the mark again with that ,I mean they have only known for 3 seasons we need one ,obviously not enough time to draw up a list of targets . 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Newcastle want Remy but no offer at the moment? If this is true then what are we doing? Are we after him or not? We go through this with Llambias in every window. What a clown show.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
havent we done this a few times. Let it be known we’re after someone but not make a formal offer.. hmmm strange or bullshit…
mark(Quote)
Let’s hope the Remy interest is a red herring and we are moving for someone more in form ,otherwise what was the point of the so called delegation to France. Probably Dezza stocking up on his duty frees.
KIMTOON(Quote)
“No offer” often doesn’t mean there haven’t been negotiations and numbers discussed. i take “offer’ to mean the more formal written form. when a club says that no “offer” has been made, that’s generally what they are referring to and a coy way of denying discussions are taking place. I think the club only submits the formal kind when they feel they are close or if they are trying to push things along and force a club’s hand.
MDS(Quote)
We spent all last window chasing de jong only to find out he never even wanted to come here 😳 and Debauchy was just unsettled by us in the end .If we wern’t in a dog fight now , I don’t think Debauchy would be here now tbh.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Have to agree with Willo in this
http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/williamson_we_were_lacking_in_every_area_777840/index.shtml?
Especially at CB
Big Dave(Quote)
Have to agree with what Willo says Big Dave but it doesn’t remove the owner’s responsibility in all this. And are we still required to balance the books all year? If so does that mean we have to sell someone to bring another player in? The money from Ba doesn’t quite cover the purchase of Debuchy so are we now at a point where someone else has to go? I just don’t trust this owner. He can’t even see he is risking everything by not spending now apparently. Another season in the Championship would be the end of him in Newcastle and no fancy TV money to line his pockets.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2 , I honestly don’t think there will be a CB or FWD this window mate,just can’t see it. 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
I honestly believe that this has gave Jabba the fright he needed, and he’ll know that to not strengthen now while he can is too big of a gamble
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave ,I hope so mate ,for all our sakes.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Have to say I agree with almost everything Toon Bano says in his article. The amount of bollocks we have to swallow from Ash/Llam every season is unbelievable. A waste of space, both of them. Also a continual series of apologies from players and manager alike for pathetic displays. Many of the games this season have been an embarrassment to the supporters and the city. They are immediately followed by excuses of every sort from Pardew. We have a lot of injuries, we have to play too many games, we didn’t strengthen in the summer, me mam’s got in ingrown toenail blah blah blah. On and on and I expect nothing but more of the same.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2- honestly, based on last year’s success, I think the club felt it could hold the line on spending (i.e. break even or even turn a slight profit) until the new TV money started flowing when it would look to take the next leap forward. That was obviously a big gamble that was lost when we suffered injuries and a rotten stretch of form. No way they can risk standing still until the end of the season. As you say, all the effort to balance the books would be for naught of we went down….as would ashley’s investment
MDS(Quote)
Off to attend the funeral of a mate sadly. 😥 Will try to get back online when possible. All the best to everyone.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
MDS well thats Jabba’s fault because this season was the best chance we will probably ever have under the Regime to get a step up, but yet again they let us down.
Geordietwo @ 420 sorry to hear that mate take it easy
Big Dave(Quote)
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I can see Jabba taking a gamble if he suspects, Barfa, Saylor and Jonas are due back from injury.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Big Dave says:
January 7, 2013 at 19:18
MDS well thats Jabba’s fault
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I didn’t say otherwise…
Troy- I agree, though they appear to be at least looking for more reinforcements. .
MDS(Quote)
Troy do you think he’ll take a gamble on the CB ? It wouldn’t surprise me but i’m sure our position would have shook him up, why else would they come out and admit they should have strengthened 😉 as they’re not known to admit they were wrong
MDS I was just conversing with you and stating that it was Jabba’s fault, and I didn’t think you said otherwise 😯 chill lad 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
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@BD
Who knows with the Regime but it wouldn’t surprise me if Saylor looks like he will return soon then they may gamble.
You know the craic Dave.
We tried to get a top CB but you don’t get value for money in January. 😯
Clubs don’t want to sell. 😯
We won’t be held to ransom. 😯
We will reinforce in the summer where you get value for money. 😯
This is all déjà vu 😕
Troy Stavers(Quote)
i see everton have put full first team out tonight there up 2 nowt,funny players dont feel tired when winning or feel slight knocks 😉 😀
icedog(Quote)
A “top” centre back would be nice, but I would settle for a centre back better than Williamson and Perch. I would imagine that’s not asking too much actually, because the two unknowns playing for Brighton at the weekend looked pretty good to me. There again they were only up against the “other” Shola.
Munich Mag(Quote)
Well I’m certain no CB will arrive if Saylors nearly back ,yet another huge gamble as there is no way we can be sure he won’t break down or get injured again 🙄 further more if they take that gamble will they still not get one in the summer 😕 probably not.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Troy aye I know the craic I just can’t believe they will try that again knowing that Saylor is only just coming back, but then we have got Debuchy which they will keep reminding us off.
MM I wouldn’t say no because we need strengthened but I think we should be going for one that is better or as good as our best CB’s at the club, IMO that is the only way to get better, buying average players, and they only really need to be average to be better than Willo and perch is a bit of a waste and the money should be put towards a top one
Big Dave(Quote)
I don’t understand their obsession with midfielders and attackers ,when we badly need defenders , yet again we been linked with an attacking midfielder ,Florian Thauvin a 19 year old up and coming star apparently 🙄 All well and good but what about now ,it’s a CB we need then a striker ,not more promising kids . I would be happy with a quality defender and an English striker who maybe ain’t a superstar but has a good goal return ,a Danny Graham if you like. Frankly at this point I would take any CB better than Wilo tbh.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Imagine how much fun it would be if the transfer window was until the end of February. Clubs would have 10 league games left to hoy the cash around like crazy to try and buy safety. Now that WOULD be fun….not..
As things stand, at the end of the January transfer window, our new “top” CB and our new “top” CF will have exactly 14 league games to get there **** together and make a mark.
Can we really expect such a vast improvement in the team from the arrival of Staylor, Cabaye and HBA. We have flirted briefly on a bit of a slight upward trajectory. The abysmal Brighton defeat put us back on a downward curve in my opinion. 14 games is a lot of points to play for, but we need to start NOW.
Munich Mag(Quote)
If Cisse were to get injured we’re gonna look like a real bunch of **** bags. The only certainty however will be that Pardew will have a soundbite aimed at convincing us all that Ranger will step up to the plate.
The great thing about winning the league is that it shows a consistency over 38 games that you were the best team in the league. Ditto the teams in the bottom three. They weren’t just a little bit *****, they were consistently *****, and that’s why we deserve to be where we are at the moment. We haven’t lost a game this season when we could really say hand on heart we were unlucky and should have won that game 👿
Munich Mag(Quote)
Imagine this transfer scenario….
Alright bonny lad, we want you to join us, what do you say ?
Aye, sounds good, sounds like a canny wedge, 50K fans at the temple on the hill, sounds good, where do I sign ?
Here
ok then…
ya beauty…howay the lads, welcome to the toon
Brilliant, looking forward to it…
Then look at the protracted will he won’t he, one step forward two steps back hush hush, wealing dealing ***** that we have to go through every year. It just does me head in. 👿 👿
Munich Mag(Quote)
MM I have said many many times I use to love the transfer windows, but from the Regime took over they have been *****.
Big Dave(Quote)
https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/10/03/why-do-we-look-so-flat/
This was written at the beginning of October, before our injuries took hold. The main reason for our form being so aweful is not the injuries, it’s the coaching. I’m sure of it.
Shamrock(Quote)
Big D we’ve had some bumpy transfer windows over the last few years. This one may prove to be another lost cause … 🙄
Munich Mag(Quote)
Well their is 3 teams after Simmo apparently , West Ham ,Qpr and Fulham so i say a swap deal Tomkins at West Ham or Haangeland from Fulham he wants out their and Tomkins wants out at West Ham so its been reported anyhow . Its a no brainer 1 of them 2 in its a swap deal so Ashley does not need to open his wallet and 1 of our weaknesses is strengthend .
Axel(Quote)
Tomkins for £5m and Haangeland in a swap for Simmo and we are sorted at the back for now. Willo could go then to whoever takes him. Maybe Rangers FC is about his level? 😆
Shamrock(Quote)
Dave ,It’s the lack of communication that gets me ,other clubs will say outright they are gonna bring in newbies ,we just get” we may have to get 1 or 2 in ” with no one actually arriving 9 times out of 10 🙄 .A bit of honesty would go a long way but that ain’t never gonna happen with this mob.
KIMTOON(Quote)
I should say coaching AND lack of investment.
Shamrock(Quote)
I was looking at a list of Jan transfer bargains on newsnow ,does anyone know much about Tom de Sutter the Belgian striker ,he’s 27 6′ 4″ and has 10 in 21 games this season.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Scrap that he’s had previous torn ligaments in his knee ,Just wiki him 😆 Then again sounds right up Ash street. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Sham @ 435 aye that was they thread when you finally seen the light 😀 I still think one of the reasons we looked flat was because the players were well pissed off with the clubs lack of ambition and let their heads drop.
Big Dave(Quote)
SHAMROCK i reckon He will be out of his depth at Rangers , Whitley Bay ,Bedlington Terriers or Ashington might take him , to warm the bench and brew the half time cuppa .
Axel(Quote)
Tomkins would be a quality signing in my opinion. Especially if we could work something out with WH with Simmo going the other way. I was thinking today while I was bord stiff at work. We are apparently looking to France to bring in a pacy LF/ST. Would it be worth asking Villa about Agbonlahor? Young fast and knows what the premiership is all about. Surely worth a look??
Oblong(Quote)
OBLONG Tomkins would be excellent because just like Agbonlahor he knows the premiership and its a couple of players like that , that we need right now . Debuchy is class and it wont be a problem for him to adjust i think , but these young lads we are supposed to be after from france will need to hit the ground running if they are brought in now .
Axel(Quote)
@435. I have to agree. Talent wise we are no worse off than most teams in defense yet constantly under perform and look lost far too often
MDS(Quote)
Yeah Dave, I think that’s certainly an element of it – but at some point they need to pick their chins up and act like men – it’s their own career’s they are destroying by sulking if that’s the case. The likes of Tiote and Cabaye were being talked about in the same sentence as Chelse & Manure. If they get us relegated they can forget ever slinging it with the big boys at the summit of the League and Champs Lge etc, forget ever earning mega money… I just can’t believe that would be the main reason for this prolongued form. It makes no sense for their careers.
They need to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in. Help us reach the next level in order to help themsleves progress… I have to say though, almost everyone at the club from top to bottom in the playing staff department have been well off the boil all season. That’s no coincedence, that’s the foundations not being set properly in training.
Obling, I dont know. Agboholor has regularly come out in the press when linked with moves away and declared his love for Villa, his home town and boyhood club. Think he means it as well…
Shamrock(Quote)
I agree with big dave 😉
Wee Dede 9(Quote)
Interesting to see the World Team of the Year. Every single player based in Spain. Nobody from England, Germany or Italy. Either Fifa is more corrupt than we ever imagined, or the EPL is in fact 2nd class.
Shamrock(Quote)