In the case of football players it gave them security, the knowledge that regardless they would be employed and would get paid for a set amount of time. For clubs it gave them leverage knowing full well that a player wrapped up in a nice long contract would often bump up a price if said player was to be sold.
Right now though as I can see it these contracts aren’t worth the paper they are written on, which makes me wonder what the point of them is at all and if they should just be done away with. After all there are numerous examples of contracts being reneged upon or wanting to be reneged upon and loyalty has been far removed from the game so what is the point in all of them?
Take a look at Fabricio Coloccini for example. He signed a new long-term deal only last season after long and protracted discussions. Right now though that doesn’t seem to matter as our skipper seemingly wants out and with the only vocal suitors coming in the form of a club who can’t afford to pay his market value and want Colo to rescind his contract so they can sign him up for free.
Now of course with this comes the argument of what to do with an unhappy player who is under contract. Do we play hard and assert that the player in question honours the contract he signed just last year, or is it too much hassle to have an unhappy player on your books, especially one as key as Colo?
So say we let Colo go. Thank-you and goodnight, do whatever you have to do in Argentina and so on. What does that say to anybody else we have under contract? Do they then just turn round and say they are homesick/having issues/anything else to get out of the long-term contract they signed?
From a business sense our club has invested a lot of money in Fabricio Coloccini. Not only did we shell out over £10 million to sign him in the first place, we’ve also paid him rather handsomely in return for his services, some of which have been way below the mark required, particularly in his early days on Tyneside. Is it right that Newcastle United should just essentially turn into a charity and let him go when we arguably need him most?
Of course it’s not just a one-way street with contracts and some of them are more openly worthless than others. I’m still shocked that I see people banging on about Alan Pardew’s eight-year contract to be honest. It was as clear as day that Ashley wasn’t going to let that one pass without attaching some of his famous strings to it, and so it would seem as most credible sources seem to suggest that only one year of compensation would be due should Pardew end up getting the boot.
So what is the point in contracts in football these days? Far from being a sign of security and longevity they just appear to be another commodity that can be ditched as and when either party see fit.
In that case why bother with them at all?
for me its a two way thing.. all our top guys were assured of many things in order to make them sign on the line … we are serious and we will build, we want to challenge, stay with us the future is bright, we will invest in the squad etc etc, hope was given and lies were told.
Look at what is going on, you would have to be a blind man to not see it… the players have had a gut full of the ashley propaganda and lie machine, the hollow promises. Ba gone, Colo going, HBA saying he is off in the summer unless we show some intent to improve. Then you have to also know that Krul is just about gone now also…its the next bombshell and what are we left with then… our spine has been ripped out. They know krul is going as why else sound out a 4 million rated keeper at birmngham.. since when would we ever pay 4 miilion for a number 2 keeper?? not a chance. What do we want as a club?? i have no idea anymore.. we say we want good players but dont want to pay for them. we cant keep our good players as we show no ambition.. we want to be in the premiership but on championship wage structure. This is one massive massive fuk up club that ashley has created… he fuked it once and we went down.. we had a great season last time and made a great impression on everyone from pundits to the neutrals. When had it in our hands to push on and just make small steps forwards.. nothing drastic.. so what do we do.. we weaken our squad even further, buy no-one and rip the hearts and desire out of all the newcastle players..Make no mistake, our club is proper fuked now and we will go down and it will take a change of ownership to get us back. We can not even sign players in a window when we know we are going down, have one striker, no central defenders after colo goes.. no back up, there is nothing there..i see no hope at all for nufc…. and not a word from the wanka’s that run our joke of a club. Do they even know how bad it is and what is worse.. do they even care? i dont think they do.. i think ashley does all this on fun to ruin the lives of geordies..he gets off on it..
craig chisholm(Quote)
I think long-term contracts are still worth something. Once it gets to two years players hold 100% of the power.
I don’t see that Colo has done anything wrong – he was one of our best players against Colo, he has said he would ideally like to leave, hasn’t thrown a hissy fit, hasn’t dropped his level of performance (though it hasn’t been good previously this year)
Family comes first. If we can’t work something out I have no doubt he will remain and not give anything less than 100%
@Craig “Krul as good as gone now” evidence?
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
On topic colo may have a serious reason for leaving, which is perfectly plausible, but if not it makes the situation a bit of a joke.
On remy he states redknapp as the reason he joined yet he refused to meet him last week, and redknapp says the chairman was the main reason for him joining. Derrrrrrr ££££££
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Agree with Craig to a point, but then we wander into players having ideas above their stations.
Yeah I’ve no doubt some are pissed off that investment wasn’t made BUT at the end of the day they are professional and should act as such by not allowing something that essentially has jack **** to do with them (transfers) affect their level of performance out on the pitch.
toonsy(Quote)
Good write up Toonsy . Contracts are a bit of a joke now imo .like you say ,they mean nowt. QPR just signed Remy on a 4 and a half year deal but does anyone seriously expect him to stay there that long ,if the lad is any good and they stay up the big fish will circle at the first opportunity and you can bet he’ll be off. Regarding Colo ,it’s a bad situation ,if his wife is really poorly and wants to be back home then maybe we have to give compassionate leave . I can’t see how once she’s well again they can’t return and Colo resume his place with us. I don’t quite understand how with all his money she can’t get the best private care here in Britain tbh. I do wonder if there is more to it than meets the eye for those very reasons ,but to expect us to just let him go and kiss goodbye to £8/10m transfer fee is crazy ,given our position ,not to mention who we could buy with said £8/10m.
Just read on a rumour site ,one of the Eds has been told we are in Russia after a player and thinks it’s Chris Samba who wants away after the racism problems he’s endured .He cost his club £12.5 m ,don’t know what they would want now, Obviously he’s a CB but can also play Fwd as we know from his time in the PL previously. Would be great to get him.
KIMTOON(Quote)
The sad thing for me is that you have someone like Krul, alright he isn’t a local lad but he signed as a youngster and came through the ranks, waited his turn for years and then got a chance. He was good enough and eventually went on to have a very good season. (Whilst Given is shipping 3 goals at Bradford) He cost us very little and is a sustainable way to go on and build a team in front of someone who has been here a long time. Then as soon as anyone is any good, there is speculation that they will go to a bigger club, for money, and we sign someone on the way up from the next rung down of the football ladder. It is all about money and moving people around. To build success you need solid foundations, not moving people around all the time.
DJG(Quote)
I don’t think the colo situation is a regular situation. I don’t believe he wants to leave because he’s unhappy. I believe he wants to leave because of problems back home. I’ve read in many places that his wife is very ill. I’m sorry but if your wife is ill I’m not going to fault you for wanting to be near her. Your wife is far more important than a relegation battle.
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
Remy , M’villa , Odemwingie,Olson ,all these players wanting to join a rock bottom club ,wonder why 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Looks like we are after a player called Virgil Van Dijk. We have more chance of getting ****. We have already had Mary Poppins.
Mad Marg(Quote)
With all these names being bandied about I’m beginning to think we actually won’t sign anyone. It can take a long time for a foreigner to settle. Debuchy said it was 30% faster than what he’s used to and that was against Norwich! It took months for Cabaye and Hatem to get up to speed and while signings like that would be wonderful we don’t have that time.
georgio(Quote)
Mad Marg, we been linked to that defender before ,Everton were looking at him too.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Georgio yeah players can take time to settle or they can hit the ground running ala Cisse, never know til yo sign them and play them! I am gutted we missed out on Remy as it seemed we put a lot of work into transfer. Can we get a forward in between now and Jan 31st? Think we will get in a defender or two but we do need a forward as well
Johno Toon(Quote)
@10. Very true. Add Collo and Anita to that list.
Then again, Cisse and Tiote settled very quickly, and Santon to a lesser extent.
MDS(Quote)
Nothing has really changed other than we have lost out on Remy. We still don’t know whether Colo is leaving or not. We still have a very weak team now with only 5 purples if Colo stays. We are linked with players but only 1 bid in apparently and that for a 20 year old full back? I don’t understand this willingness to let the club fall apart at a crucial time. We should have stood up to QPR if we truly wanted Remy. We should help Colo solve his problems any way we can. Step up Ashley or lose your investment. Reassure players we are going to invest more going forward. I’ve said it before but I say it again. This is really your last chance with this club Ashley.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
if we had had some spine in our team we might have stood a chance of staying up..we dont have that though so that is a shame.. we could do with a leader now….. who would you pick cos i cant see anyone who cares….Ameobi?? FFS Also baring in mind that the january games were our most winable you would have thought we would have drafted in the correct quality players pronto fast to help win us those games… next up reading then another two games we should and need to win.. so what have we done to ensure that the squad had the tools available to stand a chance? Er.. nothing… we might get some ***** on the last day after the MUST WIN games are over with and its already too late.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Toonsy good read, I don’t agree with you that they’re pro’s so should just get on with it .
They are only human and if they were sold a dream and then they witness the Regime not trying to live the dream well then I don’t blame them in the slightest if they think well **** you’s why should I help build the dream if you’s arn’t going to help.
As for Colo I don’t believe the story of his wife beimg ill, if that was the case why would his Dad come out and muddy the waters ? It would have all been done behind closed doors if his wife was ill.
Big Dave(Quote)
Geordietwo I think us going for the young full back is a step in right direction. We need cover for Santon so it helps build squad depth. But its getting other players in as well which is they key.
Johno Toon(Quote)
Geordietwo… you cant call them purples man.. you sound like that cok end that runs the club..
Solanostrumpete… hey mate.. you go on thinking its all rosy in the garden.. a bit like a stubborn ships captain when its going down..cant see the wood for the trees sort of thing..
The Krul thing is quite new but tune in.. its coming and it will grow over the rest of the window. Italy and Milan over CCC… humm, tough choice. there is only so far loyalty will take even our most resiliant of players. I think we are at that point now…
craig chisholm(Quote)
Dave @16 .Yeah ,inclined to agree mate ,there is defo more to that than meets the eye,but then I’m a suspicious ****** at the best of times. That’s what happens when you got a bunch of proven liars running the club. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
DGJ – I’m not following the Given comparison? Given is in the twilight of his career as opposed to Krul, who is just building on a good start to his.
A Shay Given in his prime was world class. We know that. If Krul ever gets that goid remains to be seen.
Shamrock(Quote)
We dodged a bullet with Remy. QPR will pay him big wages, pay however many million to OM. If the go down they will loose him for nothing. He has had a poor season and niggling injuries, he might play 2 games and then be out for a month. It’s a huge gamble by a club in a desperate position and owners prepared to take the financial hit. Can’t really blame our club for this one, I just wish we were willing to take a little step up in the summer because I don’t think things are really that bad; it is just that we are potentially a good first 11 or a poor set of back-ups.
DJG(Quote)
Johno Toon I agree with the second part of your post. We have a crucial need for a CB and a partner for Cisse. It’s nice to diddle around making bids for a very young LB but we need help now. Surely we aren’t thinking of throwing him in at CB? We have no cover there either. Why can’t we summon the balls to make an offer for a decent CB? It’s become a joke now after the last 3 seasons. Playing Perch at CB? Ash/Llam must be completely mad. Willo is bad enough (and I do mean bad). We are a joke in central defence and we spend crucial time chasing a youngster? Just more bizarre behaviour from this management group.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
SHAMROCK
What I meant was he left for bigger things and he wasn’t at the end of his career when he left as a keeper.
DJG(Quote)
Peace CC I’m only having a laugh at Llambias. We are very thin and getting thinner. That is entirely the fault of the owner/MD. We are in huge danger now and they show nothing but more incompetence. A sad situation and may get worse. Can’t see a way out for us with Ash/Llam in there. 😥
GeordieTwo(Quote)
DJG – to a certain extent it is the players (agents) that create the merry-go-round. Players who are playing well, irrespective of when they signed their contract or how long is left, ask for a transfer or wage increase (see Carroll, Nolan, Ba etc.). They are no doubt encouraged by their ‘advisors’ (parasites) in this end. I don’t see many of them offering to take a pay cut when they are playing badly or injured. The only way we could have kept Ba was for him to be injured or playing badly. Not many queuing up in the Summer was there. Their is a hierarchy of clubs and you are where you are. Even Man Utd are below some clubs (Real) when it comes to wages or someone’s hometown club (Shearer). Newcastle do the same to those clubs lower in the pecking order as we have it done to us by those above. Only certain clubs can win things or get into Europe. Therefore most players gravitate towards money or maybe even London. That puts us below those who are genuinely bigger/better than us and sometimes those who are willing to take a financial risk. I would agree that we do not punch our weight in this hierarchy and that this is down to the man holding the purse strings. Do QPR fans think it will be worth the risk if they go down anyway and into oblivion? Did Portsmouth or Leeds for that matter?
Knocky(Quote)
Lescott for 5 million.. now what is wrong with that!! ok he would want big money to come to our circus but its well worth it, he is top draw and would be huge lift for us.. fuk it, i would even make him captain. There are so many good players we could get…. they keep saying january is a bad time to buy.. but they didnt buy anyone in the summer either!! when i a good time to buy.. when its too late, when the window is over, when we are relegated.. just so we are clear here on the gravity… we have 14 or 15 days to buy a substantial amount of players needed … as it stands now and with the colo thing over us.. do wev have the metal to make it …. not a chance.. relegation fodder by a country mile.
craig chisholm(Quote)
The rumours continue to fly. Now it’s Samba and M’biwa. Best rumours I’ve heard so far . . .
georgio(Quote)
I’m not too keen on us cancelling Colo’s contract only for things to perk up for him, his wife to come home or whatever the f*ck it is and him to turn around and go, woo its all dandy now lads, Chelsea/Liverpool/QPR-fancy chucking us a nice 100k contract?
I’m not to keen on cancelling it full stop. If it is a marital problem, give it time and see if you can work it out, dont **** off back to argentina now when your wife realises she misses her curry and chips down Dunston and wants to head back…
Newkie(Quote)
I’m suprised so many people are flabbergasted that Remy would move to QPR? People keep saying things such as ‘rock bottom club’. Maybe yes, but we are not in much of a position to laud it over them. If they go down, we may well end up joining them. I would not be suprised if our form is worse than theirs…
Meanwhile he is getting paid mote than we offered and has a get our clause if they go down. Would we have given him that clause? No chance.
Shamrock(Quote)
If someone did a tally of how many players we have ‘bid’ for my word we would have about 1000 players
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Shamrock its a no lose situation for remy – 6 months of double wages and let go at the end of it?
Why would he join us for less?
What cracks me up though is he will be the highest paid player no guarantee of staying beyond 6 months where is the motivation to bother….?
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Shamrock… statistaically.. over the last 15 prem games we are 20th club and going down with results getting worse and the slide gaining huge momentum.
craig chisholm(Quote)
LST-Bang on
Newkie(Quote)
Shamrock@29 ,I still think if you did a pole of players and pundits and media most would admit there is not a chance he went to QPR on football reasons ,it’s money pure and simple .Why would you play in front of 16k in a shithole when you can play to 50k in a fantastic stadium alongside fellow french internationals ,it’s an illogical decision in football terms ,it only makes sense financially imo.
KIMTOON(Quote)
i never wanted Remy to start with and i said it on here his stats were pants…toonsy had a friendly pop at me in remys defence if i recall 🙂
No.. what i am mega pissed off about that we are not buying the players we need, not remy, i am glad we never got that bloke, he couldnt hit a barn door at ten paces ffs.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Given it’s a money motivated move ,I don’t see much effort going in either.
KIMTOON(Quote)
I see PEP will become Bayern Munich coach in the summer then. Roman must be spitting mad 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
In fact LST, for me, the only motivation is to do worse. 6months of high pay, get your team relegated, sign on somewhere else for 3mil with a sign on fee etc.
Unless he’s willing to rot his career in the CC for the money i guess.
Newkie(Quote)
DJG, he DID leave for bigger things though? He got back into the Champion’s League and won the FA Cup. You are right he was not at the end of his career when he left us, that’s why Man City wanted him and why he was their 1st choice keeper for a season and a half, earning the plaudits for a series of top displays.
It was a combination of an injury and the emergence another World Class keeper in Joe Hart that he eventually went stale, having sat on the bench for a season and gone rusty.
By the time he moved to Aston Villa, he was 35.
I totally agree with your point about us needing solid foundations, but still don’t see how bringing Shay Given into it make any sense.
Shamrock(Quote)
G2 @ 22 I do think we will get the defenders in. That could be the eternal optimist in me talking 🙂 Not so confident on a striker, think we put a lot of work into the Remy deal. Just cant see us having a plan b on that one.
Johno Toon(Quote)
American ‘sport’ is the example given when players and agents defend the extortionate wages they earn. They provide the entertainment and therefore generate the income and so should command a relevant reward for doing so. What they fail to mention is that the American ‘sports’ have the draft system and wage caps to prevent the whole ‘industry’ falling into a commercial black hole.
The sooner transfer fees are abolished and players (and clubs) are made to honour contracts, subject to both parties coming to a mutual agreement to part company, the better.
Knocky(Quote)
Newkie – smells like a rat to me. What do the other players around him think when hes highest paid player and mincing around.
Smacks of desperation and I for one am glad we as a club didnt stoop that low.
Worrying part is we took so long to almost tie up remy how long before another deal of similar stature?
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Shamrock @ 39 , yeah poor Shay is finished. He couldnt dive left at the euros for us ( Ireland ) and he is now on my fathers hate list for life. Ruined my Dads only ever major tournament he went to. And with it been Ireland could be his last!
Johno Toon(Quote)
Kim, I’m not aruing re: him moving for money. My point is, we are in no position to laud it over QPR at the moment. Yes we have 50,000 fans packing out our stadium every other week, but the football we are producing is sh**e, our results are in free fall and we would not have given him that clause – so for footballing reasons also – chosing QPR makes more sense from his position in my opinion.
No point in plying your trade in front of 50,000 fans if you are in the Championship. He is an aspiring International standar player after all.
Shamrock(Quote)
I’m going to be totally honest, I’ve lost my way with football at the moment like. The whole game is full of money greed sharks and the fans – the ones loosing their jobs and struggling to afford to even get to the damage games are left to suffer.
It fucking stinks all this FA bullshit that’s been on SSN today about the beautiful game.
That linesman has been dropped this week for daring to mention how much Arsenal charged the City fans at the weekend (£62)?! – why aren’t the FA asking Arsenal to justify that price?!, its the club that’s rich, not the fans!!.
Now players seem to go to the highest bidders, regardless of football ambition. Don’t get me wrong, Remy wouldn’t be playing CL footy next season had he joined us either like. I’m not blaming Pardew or the board or anything like that, I’m just sick of the whole game at the moment I think.
Sharpy17(Quote)
its all fuk’d.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Sharpy, yeah it’s sh*te. Our league is sh*te too. Our National team is sh*te. Our team is sh*te. Our manager is sh*te. Our owners are sh*te. Even Tiote & Cisse have gone sh*te. 😳
Shamrock(Quote)
I’m hopeing against all odds that we are actively doing deals quietly as I write but not broadcasting it in an attempt to avert another hijack by Arry or others 😉 you never know maybe they have learnt a harsh lesson. 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
LST-Exactly, Cisse and Tarabt are already firey characters and have been doing their job, for the most part, what happens when Remy comes in to replace one of them, performs worse but gets paid half again as much or more. That or they replace the one forward that’s actually been working his socks off for them-mackie.
It was pretty obvious their super stars weren’t pulling up that many trees and their “lower league” style players in Derry, Mackie and Nelson were doing their jobs. Wonder if they’ll get bumped up by 60k odd now…
Newkie(Quote)
Shamrock @44 Yeah see what you mean,we might of put a relegation clause in though ,it’s not like we seem to ever learn from our mistakes 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Did anyone else see this?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/15/fa-national-football-day-bobby-robson
Nice.
Rinton man(Quote)
Thing is with QPR, they lack balance. Their defense is still aweful and their midfield is shaky. Remy is rusty and like many point out, wont be busting a gut (he’s quite frankly mad if he does) – so I’d say they are still good for relegation – along with us. 😯
Shamrock(Quote)
Kim 😆 Very true!
Shamrock(Quote)
Sharpy@45 Yeah what happened with the lino being dropped is dispicable imo, wtf did he do wrong .All he did was ask the players to thank the fans ,fair play to him considering the cost and travel for them. As you say the FA should be having serious words with the clubs over prices not him.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Rinton ,Saw it yesterday ,really good idea ,Sir Bobby would be pleased as punch . 😀
KIMTOON(Quote)
sharpy.. i know what you mean.. its very hard to say i support newcastle at the minute cos i dont know what i am supporting and what its all about.. its lost on me now.. i think i have a morbid facscination with it more than support nufc at the minute.. i mean how can we support something that does not exist anymore? there is no heart, no soul no players hardly, the owner hates all things newcastle as does the MD…. its an old dream and memory at the minute and nothing more. we are nothing more than romantics dreaming of years gone by. there are only so many beatings you can take before you kinda give in a little.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Wow it seems we’ve hit bottom on here today. I hope Pardew still has some composure left. He can’t afford to completely lose it like we can. I would agree it takes us too long to move for our targets. The Remy deal has been going on for months seemingly as did Erdinc before him. Now we’re hearing the Gomis name again. I think it will take a big wage to get Aubemayang and so that’s likely not going to happen either now or in summer. Where do we go from here? I hope the rumours about Krul and Santon are just that as well. We can’t afford to lose either right now. Krul leaving would be a huge blow. We don’t need to get any younger in goal even if Butland is good. Would love to see us play some real carpet football on the weekend but what are the chances? Reading will have a real go at us I think. Normally we should take them apart easily but not so sure right now.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2, I hate to say but feel Reading will beat us ,we have no feel good factor to carry us at present. A signing in before friday could help but ain’t gonna happen now. 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
CC – Don’t forget – – The Toon Army will still be going strong long after MA and Llambastad are gone. We’ll come good again. Just got to put up with these clowns until they sell up. In the meantime we’ll remain mid table dross with the occasional dip into the Championship – where watching a game is more enjoyable!
Shamrock(Quote)
Difficult for us against anyone right now Kimtoon. As for transfers we must get players in before the window closes. At least 2 but preferably 3 more. If Ashley shows no ambition to do that he might as well sell in the summer. I can’t see a future for him with the club if he doesn’t show leadership now. I’m not talking about 19 or 20 year olds for a couple of million pounds either. This is not the time for “building for the future”. We need to build for the present just to survive.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
JohnoToon @40 defenders are an absolute must but the club has shown absolutely no inclination to go for CB’s over the last 3 seasons no matter how badly we needed them. Truly the strangest part of this whole strange story. It’s as if the Sol Campbell failure completely put them off CB’s and they can’t get over it. Well they had better find a way or we are screwed, now and in the future.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Kim@48 The powers that be don’t typically broadcast who they are targeting etc but Twatta and everything else seems to provide the ideal means for the selling club and people itk to broadcast the info far and wide.
They seem to have had a pretty good handle on that sort of stuff before. Not saying the will in the future as they always go on to do the unexpected.
Have had the flu this week, tempted to stay in bed with the duvet over my head until Jan 31st.
Geordie Deb(Quote)
I think Ashley bought Cisse last Jan as a bit of a crowd pleaser, (or to please himself) when actually investing in the defence would have been more sensible. At that point we still had Lovenkrands and Best who could could get the job done (sort of).
Although I rate Cisse Highly and loved watching him score all those fantastic goals last season, If our budget is that tight then buying him when we did was a mistake.
Rinton man(Quote)
although we identified loads of players and plans were in place…
Have we signed anyone yet??
mark(Quote)
I’m not so sure Rinton Man @63, I think Ashley knew Ba wouldn’t be with us for long with that clause in his contract. He needed another striker to eventually replace Ba and decided to actually pay a decent fee for once. Now it’s not looking so good but perhaps Cisse will recover his form with better service from Cabaye and eventually Ben Arfa. If not we are in it deep, up to the shoulders or higher I would say. I have no confidence in our defence whether or not they practice defence 4 of every 5 days. We have 1 decent CB who wants to leave in Colo, 1 terrible squad CB in Willo, and 1 almost always injured CB in Saylor. That wouldn’t get us another Championship title, let alone keep us in the Prem.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Of course not Mark we have to beg other clubs to lower their price and then we have to beg the player to take a low wage. That takes time mate. Even the sight of Llambias on his knees, whimpering isn’t enough believe it or not.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Deb@62 ,Get well soon and you may have the right idea there with the duvet.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Rinton I am 100% sure that Jabba bought Cisse because he knew that Ba would walk the 1st good offer he got, so I don’t believe in the slightest that he was a crowd pleaser
Big Dave(Quote)
Geordietwo, I guess so, but with that in mind we should then have bought a couple of young/cheap backups as if he always knew Ba would be off then it seems crazy to just be left with one consistent striker. I think Ba’s departure happened a lot quicker than expected, thats maybe why we look like we’ve got our pants down.
Theres a lot of false economy happening at the moment, we have some real gems in our squad and the missing links that could be filled in with a bit of a splurge (not crazy) would make the whole team a lot more valuable.
Rinton man(Quote)
The reason Pardew sounds so out of it when he speaks to the press is that he is out of the loop. Actually there is no loop. There is just Ashley phoning Llambias demanding he keep the spending down but get the club higher in the standings:
Ashley: Derek what is going on up there? I expected to see us in the top 6 this season. Alan promised me in the summer. You told me we had 11 purples and a fine bench. Can’t we get some other fool to come in for a low wage? Surely there are more young players out there who want to come to a Championship contender? Oh wait I didn’t mean Championship, I meant title contender.
Derek: I’m not sure we can trust Pardew with the team any longer Mike. He told me the same line of bollocks. With all my football experience I was convinced Williamson was a fine CB. And some of our other tremendous buys like Obertan, Ranger, and Xisco are going to be stars in the league for years to come. Another example of my brilliance was selling Best and Forster to lower the wage bill. Trust me Mike the future is bright with me as managing director.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Thanks Kim
Geordie Deb(Quote)
Llambias loves being caught with his pants down Rinton Man @69 haven’t you heard? 😆
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Well Dave if thats the case then its even more frustating, and we should have at least kept Leon Best for a bit longer.
Rinton man(Quote)
Its not an image I toy with often 😕
Rinton man(Quote)
Aye Rinton Man I think Ashley is the one that likes to see that happen. As for our transfer dealing I think one will come in soon. It has gone very quiet again now and they have put off dealing with Colo until next Monday so I think something is up. It may end being very unspectacular like bringing in Aliadiare (would hate to see it myself) but they have to do something soon. Would rather have Graham than Aliadiere but it seems only Harry can hijack deals successfully. Anyway might as well wait and see for a few more days. If we were playing a strong side on Saturday instead of Reading it could have proven a disaster for team morale so we have to take solace in that at least mate.
GeordieTwo(Quote)