To expand on that, we beat Anzhi with a stoppage time goal, Stoke suffered the same fate as did Chelsea and, earlier on in the season, West Brom.
That’s five games that have been won beyond the 90th minute so far this season. Ideally I’d prefer it if we could get things done before the final few seconds. If we could then my backside probably wouldn’t have nipped so many holes in my sofa, which is a thought you probably could do without on a Tuesday. However doing it easy wouldn’t be the United way…
The question is, is this something to be lauded? Does this startling fact typify a never say die attitude amongst our players? Are our French foreign legion tougher than the average opposing fan would like to think? I mean if you listen to the stereotype these players should give up rather than fight back, right?
To put things in perspective, we’ve gained an extra eight points in stoppage time since the start of February and we’ve also got into the Europa League Quarter Final as a result of another late goal. Could you imagine where we would have been without them?
So are they a symbol of a spirit within the camp or are they covering up things that should have been rectified earlier on in the game? Personally I think it’s a bit of both but, in a perverse kind of way, you can’t help but love the scenes that these late strikes conjure up. The celebrations against Fulham showed that and showed just how much the players and Pardew actually care about things.
I’ve not done much research into this and I could be wrong, but I’m struggling to remember so many late goals in our favour. They just never generally seemed to happen for us. Now though it seems to be different and we can head into injury time safe in the knowledge that the players aren’t already in the dressing room.
Having said that, I don’t think my heart can take many more of them!
Santii
Don’t think it was even that long, was incredible. My dad went from smiling, to worried to angry in two minutes though 😆 . We’ve got a £10 bet going on, I said a Bundesliga team would win, he says a la liga.
Andymag(Quote)
@Andy
Juventus will win it 😛
Santii(Quote)
Just been catching up and see Newkie reckons we’re safe now! 😯
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Just listening to talksport, they’re asking whether any PL player would get into the World XI squad. I say only Bale, what do others think?
Andymag(Quote)
@Andy
Suarez and Bale are the only two.
None of the united players would get near it. Shows how good SAF is like.
Santii(Quote)
Andy – That is such a pointless exercise as there is no other world’s XI to play against, as far as I’m aware.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B&B
They could play England as no Englishman will ever get near that squad 😀
Santii(Quote)
Apparently SETI reckon the daleks end up bottom of the worlds league every season. They’re *****.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Shut it Santii 😆 😉
Here’s my XI
————————–Neuer———————-
-Lahm———Subotic—–Piqué———Alba-
———Özil————Iniesta———-Xavi—–
——Ronaldo———-Messi———Bale——
Willing to swap Subotic for Hummels and can’t think of too many world class LB’s that can actually defend (not many can). Was also reluctant to not use Kroos/Götze/Reus. Silva may also sneak into midfield in place of Özil making it two PL players.
Andymag(Quote)
Dave – It starts next season for me like, so unless they leave in the summer then yes I expect them to hang round mate. They’re all on long contracts and Ashley will want crazy money for them, unless its players Pardew is happy to leave.
I think if we achieved 8th next season and the players saw Ashley investing in new players then they’ll happily stay.
MDS – personally I recognized the Carroll sale as a great bit of business the day we sold him – not ideal the last day of the window but £35m was superb. However, as well as we did last season, there was many people still going on about the Carroll money and questioning Ashley and I reckon there’s afew reading our discussing biting their tongue right now mate 😛 😆
We may not agree about everyone seeing sales as a positive but I think we share similar hopes for the club mate 😉
Sharpy17(Quote)
Lol B&B
Andy i would have Suarez over Bale any day
Santii(Quote)
Sharpy – Not as good a deal as the Andy Cole/Keith Gillespie plus cash swap.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Santii
I take points off him Santii for being a tool 😉 , any way I believe bale is a better player.
B&B
Don’t be a spoil sport, we’re playing the Martians next week any way, Obertan is proof enough that we’re not alone 😯 😆
Andymag(Quote)
Santii – Obertan? You mean Squidward. He used to warm the bench for Spongebob’s Bikini Bottom X1 before we signed him. 😛
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B&B – in the fullness of time I’d agree that was a good deal too, however at the time I thought we were crazy to let Cole go. There again, I was alot younger back then and my sense of perspective was alot narrower.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Keith Gillespie! 😯 🙁
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Sharpy “back then and my sense of perspective was a lot narrower” surely not possible 😆 😉
Andymag(Quote)
As for the late winners, I reckon the SJP crowd deserve a good slice of the credit. Contrast Stoke.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
I was watching some highlights of the weekends footy with my uncle who doesn’t follow footy much. It was a clip where the WH fans were giving Shelvey some stick while he was warming up and I quote my uncle “**** me, who’s that ******?, he looks like Freddie fucking Cruger before his face was fucking melted!!”
Now I accepted his use of the ‘F’ word is extreme but I thought it was hilarious
Sharpy17(Quote)
Off to watch Dogging Tales. 😯 “I’m feeling a bit cold. Can we go home now?” 😛
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Andy – you cheeky wee scamp! 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy
You know I only jest 😉
Andymag(Quote)
Jorgen Klopp (Dortmund manager) has to be the most likeable manager around, speaks honestly and intelligently and shows genuine passion.
Andymag(Quote)
Premandup-Aye I was making a general comment, I just meant if an outsider came on here and had a look from week to week they’d be absolutely stunned 😆
Newkie(Quote)
B+B-I have faith the lads will smash the mackems. That will put us on 39 points and safety in my books-why are you of so little faith? It’s that time of the year when even Shola looks up for it 😀
Newkie(Quote)
“Toby le Rhone
April 9, 2013 at 13:19
A strange one. Many and myself have at times thought how much slower we have looked compared to other teams. Stamina doesn’t appear a problem going by the late goals. Has to be something to do with training methods? If you’ve seen my waist line you would guess I am no expert on training methods”
Toby, judging by your comments I would guess you aren’t an expert on anything… 😆 😆 😉
JJ(Quote)
JJ @101 😆
richietoon(Quote)
After the bollocks we’ve had to witness for the majority of the season. The incredible thing is that for me… if we progressed past Benfica and beat the Scum to survive, I would actually consider this season a relative success.
I still think if we’d bought in the summer we could have been challenging for Europe again, but we could end the season in the last four a a major European event and we’ll start next season in the Premiership with hopefully the strongest squad we’ve had in ages without the distraction of Europe. Unless by some miracle we went on to win it of course.
JJ(Quote)
Oblong says:
April 9, 2013 at 20:01
…..If Obertan is leaving (and I hope he is) could Santon take his place as a winger in the squad and therefore free up space for another full back?
Actually, if Obertan leaves and Santon takes his place as a winger it won’t free up any space in the 25 man squad. Santon isn’t currently named in the squad because for this season he still qualifies as under 21. Next season he will no longer qualify, so a space will need to be made available for him. In effect he would take up the place vacated by Obertan, so the total number of players in the (25 man) squad would stay the same.
Chris G(Quote)
Toonsy @ 23.
That picture I sent you wasn’t of mine… 😆
Moreno(Quote)
JJ you should join our coaching staff in the off season, we would not lose a game in the 13/14 season with your brilliant insight to everything we do wrong 🙂 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I see our debt of 140 million from 2011 is now 129 million at the end of 2012. After this season in Europe I would expect that figure to be down to around 115 million at the 2013 financial year.
Then with this massive rise in tv revenue, it could very well be around 90 million by the end of next season.
Makes it understandable why if a big offer comes in for one of our players that we simply can’t refuse it.
Its a fine balance as we see non investment almost cost us big this season. So I think Ashley would have learned from that.
Hopefully we can continue our current trend and be debt free within 8-10 years. Although I think Ashley’s plan would be to get the debt low enough for us to become a very attractive buy for a rich investor.
Also, in five years time a debt of 50 million would be absolutely nothing with inflation. Its great that our debt is being reduced while at other clubs it is ballooning to absurd amounts.
JJ(Quote)
Aussie @106
Send me the job application to sign mate. I’ll have us sorted out within a month. F#% this five year plan bullshit.
JJ(Quote)
Haha,
My girlfriend is addicted to this Geordieshore.
I must admit, I cringe when I watch it because now when I picture you lot all I can imagine is blokes with ridiculous orange skin in the gayest tank tops in the universe wearing make-up.
Please tell me you lot aren’t all like that… 😥 😥 😥
JJ(Quote)
Will do JJ, I think I downloaded a copy of the application from Premier League Managers R us… 🙂
No matter which way you paint it, breaking even or making a small proffit as a football club in this day n age is an awesome effort..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
SHARPY17
April 9, 2013 at 20:15
Have you really just compared us to Leeds and Portsmouth? Unbelievable! Leeds and Portsmouth both spent way beyond their means – I don’t ever really think I said we should do the same, I said we should follow the lead of Everton and Spurs. In fact we should have abetter chance than Everton as they’re flat broke!
Also who are these Spurs players who came through their youth team?
Oh and yes I would like us to sell someone like Tiote in the summer for decent money and then add that to the pot we already have (and we have already been told we has one) and improve again.
If you really don’t think achieving what Spurs have achieved is possible I’m not too sure why you bother… Go watch Sunderland!
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – maybe if you took your head out of your **** you’d have a better chance of actually reading my posts properly.
The only person who is making comparisons with other clubs is you. I simply pointed out that Leeds and Portsmouth paid the price for trying to hurry things. Could we have gone the same way, well we’re 5 points from relegation as we speak, though that is more through not spending money on players in the summer.
As I told MDS last night, I do believe that we could mount a challenge on 4th spot but I’d sooner we established ourselves in the top 8 finish – what’s the problem with that like?
Sharpy17(Quote)
Oh and having supported NUFC for over 30yrs now, I don’t intend switching teams now just coz you don’t like or agree with where I think we should be – grow up man FFS.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy – I never mention speeding things up. I actually said right at the beginning of this thread that we had a great chance to move forward last summer, and yes speed it up but speed it up responsibly as we had such a good season last season.
I really cannot see why everyone seems to have a problem with us looking at top four in the next couple of seasons. Look at the players we have! They’re really top class players – who would get into a lot of top four teams.
Stuart79(Quote)
Aussie,
So are you going to spray yourself orange, buy a zebra stripe tank top and bleach your arsehole in order to embrace the Geordie culture in full out support for the derby this weekend? 😆 😆 😉
JJ(Quote)
Stu – from my post:
“As I told MDS last night, I do believe that we could mount a challenge on 4th spot but I’d sooner we established ourselves in the top 8 finish – what’s the problem with that like?”
Which part of that are you reading and seeing that I have a problem with us looking at top four in a few seasons time?!.
I personally think we need 5-6 changes/additions to our squad to give us the strength in depth that we have lacked this season. I’d like to see us sort that in the summer, but even if we only manage to sort 3-4 then we’d have enough to be top 8 IMO.
(And when I say top 8, that doesn’t mean 8th by the way)
Sharpy17(Quote)
JJ –
Haha,
My girlfriend is addicted to this Geordieshore.
I must admit, I cringe when I watch it because now when I picture you lot all I can imagine is blokes with ridiculous orange skin in the gayest tank tops in the universe wearing make-up.
Please tell me you lot aren’t all like that…
How dare you suggest I’d wear make up!! 👿
Sharpy17(Quote)
About 65-70 percent of people in my year at school watch that regurgitated *****, I was asked by someone a few weeks back if I watch it, I told them that it offends me as a proud citizen of NE England.
Andymag(Quote)
Wheelan and Madejski can mug off as well, what has thatcher got to do with football? She’s dead just like the rest of us will be, except she didn’t give a **** about footie, so who cares 😕
Newkie(Quote)
JJ, my tan is real mate but I would to pluck my eyebrows and wear a 3 sized too all tank top(singlet) in support of the lads 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Newkie
Completely agree, how they think that thousands of supporters will be silent for a minute to honour someone who largely disadvantaged them is idiotic. I mean at least three quarters of each stadium around the country will not be Torie supporters, putting it mildly.
Andymag(Quote)
Newkie, have some heart ya neggar! ! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I wonder what meryl steep’s reaction to the news was 😆
Andymag(Quote)
Newkie – don’t worry mate, the FA have knocked that on the head. They’re asking supports to take part in a rendition of ding dong the witch is dead instead mate 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Andy-Aye I just don’t get it. Sums it up well when the absolutely minted owners of two clubs are suggesting the silence, and fan groups around the country are like “sorrry, what’s that got to do with us?”
Aussie-You know me, my glass is half full-half full of the **** i’m about to throw on… 😆 Not that i’d be out celebrating her death, I just really don’t see what she has to do with us.
Newkie(Quote)
Sharpy 😆 😆 if only pal
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie 🙂 🙂 everyone, no matter how much of an arsehole they were, turns into a nice person once they die! Feckin bullshit if you ask me!!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Newkie – that was nothing personal to Maggie I thought the idea of Geordies and Mackems sharing a chorus of a wizard of oz song pretty funny 😉 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Aussie-It’s madness. The news yesterday was non stop. I just loved some of the political commentators “No matter if you agreed with her or not, or whether she made or destroyed your life, you have to acknowledge that she stood up for what she believed in and never gave an inch” Funny that, couldn’t you say the same about Bin Laden? 🙄 It’s embarrassing.
She would have to die when I have time off and can’t get away from all the drivel 😆
Sharpy-like the **** stained yellow brick road the mackems are taking down to teeside and the championship derby? 😆
Newkie(Quote)
Whilst I have no problem with people taking this time to celebrate the life of Mrs Thatcher. I would not be surprised to find the majority of the country are celebrating her death.
Premandup(Quote)
Newkie, we have been getting heaps of press over here on her as well.. over it as well..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I feel sorry for her family.
Its so funny seeing teenagers out celebrating her death.
For some reason i thought today was Thursday and now I’m ****ING Raging that i have to wait another day before the game 😀
Santii(Quote)
Santi @132, Thatcher never had time for her kids it was all about the job with her ,a fact acknowledged by Carol and Mark often.
Hated her in life and won’t mourn her passing and am quite angry that £10M will come out of tax payers pockets to pay for her send off in a time of austerity when the benefits of genuine needy folk and the disabled are being slashed . I won’t respect her in death as she didn’t respect the living in many parts of the uk. My memories of thatcher are friends dropping their house keys back to the estate agents having lost their homes due to sky high interest rates ,a fate I myself nearly succumbed to .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Aussie Magpie Fan says:
April 10, 2013 at 13:34
Newkie, we have been getting heaps of press over here on her as well.. over it as well..
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Same here in the States. 237 years after independence and half my country still has a fascination with all things British. I dread the day they crown the next king- there won’t be aything else on television for at least a month 🙄
MDS(Quote)
Trying to come up with a simple summary of Thatcher’s legacy. How about this:
“An economic system which intentionally impoverishes large numbers of people to reward an already rich elite, and a political culture which holds the poor to blame for their own poverty.”
Am I missing anything?
Someone told me there’d be a minutes silence against Benfica. Must be Owlheed at it again. In yer dreams mate! Maggie Maggie Maggie . . .
georgio(Quote)
Kim-Aye its a joke we’re all in it together to pay for her funeral, but not when it comes to the cuts. Fucking joke, all the millionaires singing her praises it’s a small price for them to pay to chip in to pay for a funeral? You know, funerals, which normal people have to pay for up and down the country out of their own pocket, every fucking day.
MDS-I pity you for that, I hate our royal obsession but at least they are in our country. When they said that 1 billion people watched the marrige (i didn’t) I had to ask, why waste your time on that? 😕
Georgio-Her legacy? Look at the UK/world now. Greed is good and there is no society. Funny eh.
Newkie(Quote)
MDS @134 ,Forget the crowning mate ,Kate will drop her sprogg come july and it will be wall to wall baby talk . 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Politics and footie 😯 they should never mix.
Big Dave(Quote)
Newkie – there was nothing funny about the mad old bat! Ex miners will be crying all over the north into their (half) pints of beer.
georgio(Quote)
Kim @ 133 Eloquently put.
Rinton man(Quote)
Newkie@136 I make no apologies ,I’m labour through and through but will always acknowledge the things Blair did wrong ,shame the tories /lib dems can’t be more pragmatic about Maggie. Everybody loves you when your dead, truth gets lost in amongst all the bullshit spouted about her. This is the women who called Nelson Mandella a terroist and said there was no such thing as society 🙄 well not under her goverment there wasn’t.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Oh god Kim I forgot! My country will grind to a halt come July…..
MDS(Quote)
Dave ,I’m gonna shut up now 😆
Anyway got a good feeling about tommorow night ,2.0 to the Toon 😀
KIMTOON(Quote)
Georgio-Aye 😕
Kim- I voted labour last time but as I see it I won’t be voting again, hate the lot of them and guy fawkes had the right idea if you ask me 😆 As for her legacy, I truly hope history isn’t rewritten for her. In the commons now they’re basically saying she ended communism in Russia. Absolute fucking joke. Do politicians actually have any understanding of the world at all?
Newkie(Quote)
Kim knock yersel out girl 😆 everyone to their own, there was a lot she done wrong but also things that were good, I can understand the difference’s in opinion on her, but I find the street parties etc real disgusting, but at the sametime they shouldn’t be forcing minute silences on people, as it’s bound to cause problem for people.
Big Dave(Quote)
Newkie – they do. Outside their world nothing matters!
georgio(Quote)
Kim meant to add I like your faith for tomorrow night 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
Kim, I’m with you at 2-0. Got a good feelingas well (and I never do). I think benfica will play honestly in the first haalf to try and end it eary. But if we score first they’ll go in a shell and we will have the chance to really put them under pressure. Wish I could be there as SJP will be absolutely rocking!
Benfica, Sunderland, the Masters….good couple of days coming up for me 😉
MDS(Quote)
Newkie ,Aye because Mikhail Gorbachev had nowt to do with it did he 🙄 , he and his country had to want to change and reform and end the cold war ,are we expected to believe she said jump and they did 😕 .
Anyway I’m really gonna shut up now 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
Dave ,yep ,street parties are out of order as much as a minutes silence imo.
KIMTOON(Quote)