One of them I can understand and one of them I can’t, but both aren’t exactly helpful in our search to add striking options to the squad.
First off it’s been revealed that we won’t offer more than £2 million for Darren Bent with Aston Villa looking for closer to £6 million so we’re some way off on that one, and secondly we’ve been told that the only chance of us getting Loic Remy here at Newcastle is if we buy him off QPR who are reluctant to let him leave on loan as they want to recoup most of the cash they paid for him in January.
Now starting with the second one, I can see both sides of the argument. Some might say that United are penny-pinching again but on this one I beg to differ and would suggest that we’re just being sensible. At the end of the day this is a a player who could very well end up in prison by the turn of the year depending on how an investigation into an alleged gang rape pans out so I can see why there is a reluctance to spend a bulk of cash on buying him.
The one with Darren Bent is more interesting however and gives us a bit more insight, perhaps, into why we struggle to do a deal. Our lowball offers have upset the Bent camp and Kinnear’s admission that Bent would get nowhere near the £65,000 a week he picks up at Aston Villa haven’t exactly greased the wheels.
Now I’d rather we pursued other strikers ahead of Bent but it still doesn’t change the fact that we’re messing him about. He might not be first choice in our list of attacking options but does it mean we’re right to offer such low figures, particularly when he’s been whored out publicly enough for most to know that our offer would be nowhere near good enough. It’s almost like we’re trying to look busy rather than actually be busy. On the other hand, if you don’t ask then you don’t get I suppose.
It’s frustrating the hell out of me to be honest and I’m not alone on that one as the vast majority of us are in the same boat. Two weeks away from the start of the season and we’re still the only club not to sign a senior player says a lot to me and none of it is good. Remember we only just avoided relegation last season.
We need players soon or else we’re going to struggle again next term when injuries hit or when a form crisis looms. We have no options, no alternative and whilst I have the greatest faith in Papiss Cisse it’s surely not good to put all of the pressure on his shoulders?
I guess we’ll just have to carry on waiting…
Newkie@72 me old cocker, that’s the way it is mate. There is a league of crazies with money to spend, and there are clubs like the toon who just aren’t interested in that kind of financial involvement. Sad but true. Our one saving grace each season will be to finish above the makkems every season and then we’ll be happy….
Just bough a 6 pack of bullshit-deflectors for the next couple of seasons…
Thank goodness we have FC Bayern to fall back on 😉 😉
Munich Mag(Quote)
Craig-given he can be locked up come September I wouldn’t really call it total sense from our point, but depending on QPRs thoughts of how it will end you’d assume they are confident of not guilty otherwise they would have been trying harder to ship him…
Newkie(Quote)
Munich-Have you abandoned Dortmund already then? Some fan you are 😆
But yeah, competing at the top is beyond us now. And the owners of those clubs only seem to get more interested i.e Chelsea/City/Liverpool with their outlay. With Arsenal it remains to be seen if they are just trying to look busy or whether they want to try and fight for the league. The sad truth is we have to wait for these clubs to slip up before we can take advantage. If Spurs lose bail and invest poorly and likewise with Liverpool and Suarez, maybe we can make some ground on them. But it really doesn’t look like we will this season whatever happens there 😕
Newkie(Quote)
FSOTC
You’ll need to know more about loans with our new sponsor influencing things 😉
Tbh I think the deals that are required will get over the line but I’m not sure that they’ll all be in time for the new season. I think we will get Gomis in some time next week and will fanny on with Remy for two weeks before a loan (including cash) with the option to buy is agreed following the City match.
Andymag(Quote)
MM
I wouldn’t be so confident about FC Bayern mate, I’ve got a strong feeling that Guardiola is going to ****** them up and show that he’s a really overrated coach. I you never rule out Kloppy 😉 .
Andymag(Quote)
worth posting this again –
Lee Ryder @lee_ryder
#nufc now facing competition from #thfc for Loic Remy after inquiry to #QPR
2m? 6m? 8m? loan or not? irrelevant if Spurs want him
M(Quote)
Georgio @57, Done mate.
MM@62 8-10TH place ,I would snatch your hand off right now for that. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
M ,Pretty sure Spuds will get him now ,Levy is a canny negotiator unlike our DOF . 😳
Looking like Bent Fulham bound now (thankfully) all rest on Gomis and his greedy parasitic agent then 🙄
Is there anyone else at the bottom of the barrel we can scrape by with 😕 ❓
KIMTOON(Quote)
This is interesting ,even if they go to £4.5 /5m it’s a bargain buy ,proven scorer ,wish we’d go in for him .
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Player-Watch-Stoke-preparing-3m-raid-Jermain/story-19593381-detail/story.html#axzz2aoRrqOns
KIMTOON(Quote)
Do Spurs want remy though? Wouldn’t they have wanted and got him at the start of the window if they did? Seems odd to go in for him just to make up the numbers though, Spurs are usually a bit more progressive than that. Maybe Defoe wants away?
Newkie(Quote)
Kim-timing on that 😆
I like Defoe but he’s in the same class as Bent in that if we had him, playing both him and Cisse would be redundant, although Defoe is a bit of a better dribbler they would still be quite like for like and rarely make chances for one another. Would be handy backup but would much prefer gomis/remy to come in.
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie ,It looks like Defoe could be Stoke bound ,would quite like him at Toon tbh .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Newkie ,Defoe is miles better than Bent imo. Reads the game better and takes his goals better too, I would love him at Toon ,at say £4/5m would be a steal.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Newkie @86 Aye proper spooky 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim-but he will be 31 in a few months, while bent was 29 earlier this year. Bent at least has a bit more time to prove value for money given that if we got either they probably wouldn’t be sold on again. I prefer Defoe but I think we need a striker with some muscle on him, defoe can be quite nippy but he’s not really that fast over a decent distance and he’ll only get slower.
Plus, he’s definitely not the answer to our set piece woes 😆
Newkie(Quote)
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/transfer-update-bafetimbi-gomis/
M(Quote)
Get French Football @GFN_France 14m
Aulas: “we have accepted the proposition of Newcastle for a transfer in the region of €8million + €2million bonuses” #Gomis #NUFC #OL
Get French Football @GFN_France 17m
Re Gomis: Aulas believes that the agent fee is the only possible sticking point in this transfer. #NUFC #OL
Get French Football @GFN_France 20m
Re Gomis: Lyon president Aulas says he hopes a deal will be wrapped up in the 24/48 hours. Fee is €8m + add ons. Expect Gomis in #NUFC soon.
M(Quote)
more, this time from Mr. Gomis –
Get French Football @GFN_France 2m
BREAKING: Gomis tells But!: “it’s been three weeks since I’ve agreed with #NUFC. There are only a few details to sort out”
M(Quote)
Now we get to the bit where actually Gomis is ****……. 😆
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
M-good news if true, may not get much of a pre season but at least he should be here by the start of the season! Fingers crossed that hasn’t jinxed it… 😐
Newkie(Quote)
LIAM ,don’t mate ,honestly he better be a cracker after all this bollocks 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
Parasitic agents coining it off of someone else’s talent as usual. 🙄 👿
KIMTOON(Quote)
LST-Sounds about right 😆 Honestly with the prices of strikers now I am worried 😐
Kim-Yup, enough to make you sick really, no surprise to see their lot have basically held it up all this time 👿
Newkie(Quote)
this made me laugh
Transfers @WwTransfers 52m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: “I like Balotelli, he’s even crazier than me. He can score a winner, then set fire to the hotel .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Newkie ,fingers crossed anyway mate, I live in hope. 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
Remy next and all of a sudden Kinnears flavour of the month 😕
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Liam ,never mate 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Good news on Gomis let’s hope that fecking leeching agents don’t throw a spanner in the works of a deal that both clubs and the player desperately want to happen.
Also had a chuckle when I read twitchys back tracking on Remy. Looks like hell be leaving on loan after all let’s hope were first in line…
CC(Quote)
Liam-if we got Remy in, possibly sinclair or a winger and didn’t lose anyone this would be a “terrific” summer for us, all things considered. One thing I will say about Kinnear-if he has had a hand in loaning out our players then he has done well, because for too long they were left to rot in our reserves.
Newkie(Quote)
Whats happened to Geordie Two ? ,he hasn’t been on for a couple of weeks ,that’s not like him .
KIMTOON(Quote)
indykaila 6m
Our source this morning was spot on https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/363230505786802176 … #Gomis & he also says #NUFC will meet #QRR officials today regarding Remy.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim-ignore that gobshite 😛
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie 🙄 just trying to cheer us all up 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Sad news re Coventry 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
Coventry relegated in 2001 from PL after 34 years in the top flight league ,just 12 years later it’s all gone tits up . On this same day we have the likes of Spuds thinking about accepting £85m for one player 🙄 The world of football is gone mad. 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
give joe chance … riting him off at wonse just bcoz he say kebab. every window same problems for everyone. people riting you off at wonse in your new job?
Leslie Chow(Quote)
Kim-if only the Coventry accent didn’t grate on me so much 😆 nah it’s a serious shame though, bleak times ahead for their fans :???:. They were unlucky, a bit like Leeds, to be relegated when the money really started flowing into the game.
Newkie(Quote)
@106 – Kim, that dude’s a bullshitter. U can safely ignore his tweets. Check out this account – https://twitter.com/indyliar
M(Quote)
Kim
Its a crying shame for their fans who are the only constant, The people who have run the club into the ground will be long gone…
CC(Quote)
Kim – you’re right, it’s absolute madness isn’t it. Hopefully it could be a positive thing for Coventry though. I know that sounds daft, but if you watch that Swansea thing, they had to hit rock bottom before things improved for them, were Pompey in a similar position and they look ok now and Palace had their problems and they’re in the PL now. It’s sad for Coventry, I always had a soft spot for them and their shinny badge was always one of the hardest ones to get when I was a kid collecting panini stickers 🙄
Sharpy17(Quote)
an opinion from a France-based Brit journo –
Matt Spiro @mattspiro 1h
Gomis is big strong striker with some talent, but misses a lot & often flatters to deceive. Still, could flourish in right conditions #NUFC
Matt Spiro @mattspiro 1h
Have to say €8m is good price for player with 1 yr left on contract. #NUFC also paying silly money if theyve met Gomis’ €400k-a-month demand
M(Quote)
M ,Can’t see us paying him that much knowing how tight Jabba is .
KIMTOON(Quote)
agreed. The point the journo was making is that he wouldn’t be worth it. Not a ringing endorsement
M(Quote)
on a more positive note, check oot his debut for Les Bleus –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHJgPZvjBWw
M(Quote)
CC& SHARPY , I was half watching SSN 92 club jaunt yesterday and the visit to Portsmouth was interesting ,So many fans dedicated to putting the club right again .That club was stripped bare ,all of it gone ,trophies the whole **** caboodle .Fans are finding stuff in lofts and atics and being sold on ebay. They are buying up all sorts and putting it into their trophy room .They had a fan painting Pompey legends on the wall ,doubtless for free as well .It was a real feel good factor going on and just goes to prove that no matter how feckless owners abuse and use a club the fans are the one constant that keeps it alive. Good luck to them and Coventry fans I say .
KIMTOON(Quote)
£100k a week? JFK’s doing the negotiating! It’ll be a 100 kebabs.
georgio(Quote)
M, Like the look of that 😎
KIMTOON(Quote)
Well done Kim on SD email. No one else joining in my challenge @57?
georgio(Quote)
We’re guilty of gullibility on here as usual. Two obvious examples: the supposed £2M offered for Bent – completely unsubstantiated and against all logic. Nobody would do it, and if they did they wouldn’t let the press know – so why are we believing it?
JFK being an utter ***** and screwing the deal, yes. That I’ll believe every time. Offering half the amount allegedly already turned down and obviously a fraction of anything likely to be accepted… no. And yet we kick off this discussion thinking it’s true.
Then there’s this €400k a month thing. From a FRENCH footballer. There are top flight teams in France on less than that between them.
Stop being so gullible – it’s embarrassing!!
Whumpie(Quote)
With that rant out of the way, my thoughts:
– Bent… meh. Would like to see him here (god knows we need Englishmen), but only if the deal is right and only if we minimise, as someone already put it, the chances of another Alan Smith situation. The suggestion that they’re stringing him along to help negotiations elsewhere doesn’t seem impossible, either.
– Remy – ‘Arry is taking the mick as usual; he knows the only option open to them with a jail term hanging over their player is a loan – unless they let him go for a risk-balancingly tiny fee. They are not in a strong position. He’ll go on loan.. not sure whether it’ll be to us, but I suspect so.
– Gomis – Interesting quotes from their owner. If the figures he’s spouting are correct, any accusation of Ashley penny-pinching on the deal are b.s. I’d actually be quite annoyed that we’d paid that much for someone worth ****-all in 12 months. But right now… I’d take it anyway.
Whumpie(Quote)
@124 re. the tweet that mentioned the 400k, the point is (in case u missed it) an ‘expert’ on French football suggested Gomis would not be worth it. ie ‘he’s not that good’
M(Quote)
Where does it say we’re going to pay him that much a week? The guys just saying that’s what he asked for
MDS(Quote)
French taxes on players are much higher than England, right? So there’s bound to be some wrangling around that.
Maybe getting this one deal done breaks the logjam and we get a flurry of activity now (he said more in hope than expectation).
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
Nice one, Georgio. I sent an email too.
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
Fans 😉 🙂
georgio(Quote)
Isn’t it 75% top rate tax in France. 40% here. I think this one will happen. Whether he’s any good – we’ll see.
georgio(Quote)
Bafétimbi Gomis….
is he really a good striker? 😐
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Baby Drogba 🙄 Has a lot to live up to ,pressure on him already .
KIMTOON(Quote)
It doesn’t matter about taxes! All I’m saying is, why the hell would you believe it? We know it’s all garbage spouted by people just wanting to see how far their made-up guess can go round the twatosphere.
I mean: how the hell would he know?? Is there any likely-sounding chain of events that would lead to some French “football expert” knowing how much Gomis had demanded in wages behind closed doors? And if there was, what logic suggests that he’d be after that kind of dosh, when we know he’s probably on a third of that right now and has no more reason to expect daft money than any of the other French players who’ve gone to NUFC.
Just weigh up the logic of each side, and it’s bloody obvious that these figures are utter *****. They almost always are.
Whumpie(Quote)
Wow. I’m ranty today.
Soz people. 😳
Whumpie(Quote)
I think we’ll get Gomis permanently, keep Cisse and get one of the other two; probably Remy.
I also think Remy may turn out to be just as much of an utter **** as Barton (a tall order, I know), which is why I hope we don’t buy him outright. A loan with 1st-choice purchase option would be fine.
Whumpie(Quote)
u also keep missing the point
M(Quote)
factoid from whoscore.com
WhoScored.com @WhoScored
Bafétimbi Gomis: Only Antonio Di Natale (70) was caught offside more times in Europe’s top 5 leagues last season than Gomis (62)
M(Quote)
Just seen FSOTC’s post at 69.
You should write for the United Nations, mate. Cut the **** and say it straight 🙂
Whumpie(Quote)
M – ok, that’s probably not unlikely on a Friday afternoon. What is the point I keep missing? There are 130+ of them and counting.
Whumpie(Quote)
Anyone wondering what he’s like check this on youtube: Bafetimbi Gomis | 100% Olympique lyonnais
Whumpie? or is it Grumpie? When Remy played against us I hardly noticed him. I guess you can’t tell til they’re running around our back garden.
georgio(Quote)
Well I was hoping to come back from holidays to learn we had brought in a couple of good players. It seems we haven’t though. 2M pounds for Bent is worse than a joke and why should QPR loan us Remy. Kinnear must still be smoking the good stuff he bought on his holiday. Nothing changes at the club it seems. Spurs just bought Soldado and we offer 2M for Bent. 👿
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Whumpie 😆
M@138-We’ll have a hell of a time if we play Cisse, Shola and Gomis in the same side then 😆 😥
Newkie(Quote)
that the ‘expert’ doesn’t rate Gomis highly. He thinks we’ve overpaid (considering he only has 1 year on his contract) and he referred to his reported (and unlikely) wage demands, suggesting he wouldn’t be worth that kind of dosh
that was my point @116 anyway 😛
M(Quote)
that’s for Whumpie @140
M(Quote)
GEORDIETWO – again, which is more likely? That some bloke with a Twitter account has special access to the negotiating room, or that he’s just another *** making up numbers to play on our opinion of JFK and get his name out?
My opinion of JFK is pretty low – but I’d sooner believe he’ll be the next pope than that £2m bullshit.
Whumpie(Quote)
Just tried to envisage JFK as pope. Bloody hilarious thought. The Brazilians would have stoned him to death by now for talking about Rio de Ferdinando and blessing things in the name of the Farter, the Sun and the Holey Roast. 😆
Jees, I crack myself up.
Whumpie(Quote)
M – cheers for that clarification. Point taken. I don’t have any reason to believe him though – especially as he appears to pluck daft numbers out of the air and state them as fact. But based on other evidence, I do worry about just how good Gomis actually is. Consistency seems to be something said about him a lot, but… hell, I agree – not worth silly money.
Whumpie(Quote)
G2 @142 Whey hey, your back ,was getting a tad concerned there for a moment .Thought you’d finally had enough and topped yourself over the lack of Toon action. 😉 Good hols mate?
KIMTOON(Quote)
Newkie @143
– glancing at his youtube vids, first impression (as reliable as that is) is his game looks pretty similar to Papisto’s. A slightly slower, stronger version maybe
M(Quote)