Newcastle v West Ham – Premier League match preview

A welcome to West Ham United
A welcome to West Ham United
Premier League football returns to St James’ Park tomorrow when West Ham make the trip to the North East.

After the 4-0 humping at Manchester City on Monday, United find themselves rooted to the bottom of the table and will want to get their season going with a win in front of the home fans.

In contrast West Ham will be looking to build on their rather comfortable 2-0 opening weekend victory over Premier League newcomers Cardiff by pouring more misery on Newcastle, and with so many within their ranks eager to prove a point against Newcastle you know they will be up for it.

United will also be looking to put behind them a trio of home defeats at the tail end of last season which saw them concede ten goals without mustering one in reply at St James’ Park. It’s very early in the season, but is this already a must win game for Alan Pardew?

Newcastle:

Loic Remy is likely to miss out again although he does have an outside chance of taking a spot on the bench. Jonas Gutierrez is out after aggravating a hamstring injury against Manchester City whilst Cheik Tiote is doubtful. Steven Taylor will serve the first of his three match ban after his silly sending off on Monday.

West Ham:

Andy Carroll won’t feature against his former as he continues to recover from a heel injury. Another player familiar with the North-East – George McCartney – will also miss out. Razvan Rat and Stewart Downing could make full debuts for West Ham.

Previously:

Newcastle managed to take just one point off of West Ham last season courtesy of a 0-0 draw at Upton Park towards the tail end of the campaign. Earlier in the season West Ham turned party poopers at St James’ Park as former favourite Kevin Nolan struck to earn all three points for Sam Allardyce’s side.

At home we do have a decent historical record against The Hammers. There have been 59 games played at St James’ Park with Newcastle coming out on top in 31 of those. West Ham have won just nine times on Tyneside with the other 19 meetings ending in a draw.

Stats and facts:

Since being unceremoniously sacked as Newcastle boss back in 2007, Sam Allardyce has never lost a game when he has prepared a side to face us, winning three of those and drawing the other one.

West Ham were the only side that managed to keep a clean sheet both home and away against Newcastle United in the Premier League last season.

Newcastle have never lost four Premier League home games on the spin meaning that by avoiding defeat tomorrow we will also avoid breaking an unwanted club record.

Newcastle have been given three red cards in their last five Premier League games.
Final thought…

The mood is dark and we need a win to try and lift the spirits. Rather worryingly the mood looks bleak amongst the players also and although one game against Manchester City is not exactly a fair yardstick to measure things by, I saw some concerning things in that defeat at The Etihad.

Win though and it will give us a temporary reprieve and may even kick-start us on to better things? Maybe I’m just being hopeful but we’re under pressure right from the go and must come out on top in this one.

Howay the lads!

Date: Saturday, 24th August, 2013

Time: 3pm

Venue: St James’ Park

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91 thoughts on “Newcastle v West Ham – Premier League match preview

  1. Gotta say, I’m not sure if humping is just a typo for thumping (an adjective we often see here in the states), but frankly, if it was a typo, it was all too appropriate as it captures precisely how that game felt in watching. If not, then it still remains true and my non-classically educated mind is expanded for the better.

    HWTL!

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  2. Right dont shoot me lads….

    Cabaye will have medical this weekend with Arsenal with Gourcuff due in Newcastle today / tmz to complete deal as replacement.

    Gomis is not a goer at the moment but pards wants him in for next week and feel its possible.

    Moses set to join on loan next week before deadline

    Thats the latest apparently. As I say dont shoot the messenger

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  3. US… You can use either here, humped can be slang for f*cked and we well and truly were f*cked by Citeh πŸ˜‰

    Good read Toonsy.

    Liam…I’d be happy-ish with that, if it doesn’t come of though you deserve shooting πŸ˜‰

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  4. Wayne Routledge scored twice as Swansea took a giant step towards qualifying for the group stage of the Europa League with a convincing victory over Romanian minnows Petrolul.

    This got me thinking… Has our system of play didn’t play towards the quality of the player?

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  5. Richie – I figured that was the reference and given the mood surrounding the club, I was guessing it was intentional, but sometimes that mood becomes even more palpable when you see it in print in such a raw way.

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  6. Liam@2 ,I could defo live with that mate ,especially the Moses bit 😎 πŸ™‚ Lets hope your journo pal has his info right.

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  7. I really wanted PSG to take Cabaye not Arsenal tbh . More over I really wanted the double swoop of Cabs and Debbie by PSG to be true as I still don’t rate Debbie one bit yet.

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  8. West Ham were the only side that managed to keep a clean sheet both home and away against Newcastle United in the Premier League last season.

    😯 😯 😯

    Suppose that shows how much fun teams had scoring against us then πŸ˜†

    Well I’ve gone and predicted a win for us…so cue another smashing πŸ˜•

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  9. Toonsy , I do share your concerns about the team ,there was more than one player not earning their wedge and actually looking like they would prefer to be anywhere other than in a Toon shirt on Monday.

    Think we could be breaking another unwanted record tomorrow and conceding yet another defeat at home. Nolan is sure to get at least one goal imo.

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  10. Prem – from the last article I get that bit mate, what I don’t get is how the likes of Sunderland can take on another 10 players or the likes of Norwich and Swansea can do it – they obviously can but I would love to know how?!.
    The other thing is, did we really need to replace DL with a DoF then or would a global marketing manager have been a better appointment?.
    Also, if we are sailing close to the wage wind, why are we not actively looking to sell some players to free things up a bit.
    It’s clear to me that the likes of Obertan, Willo, Amalfitano and afew others don’t really feature much in his plans. Shola is no more than a sub on big wages so move them on. Get rid of Willo and allow Goode to develop through. Obertan would be on bigger wages than someone like Redmond. Amalfitano and Gosling are unlikely to ever feature so sell them both and combine their wage to pay someone who would get in.
    They could have got rid of Shola and replaced him with someone like Di Santo – equal ability, younger but less wages.
    There are changes we could make to the squad rather than just sitting on our laurels, or going for PEA and Gomis who would also command large wages we can’t pay.

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  11. To be fair, I know Routledge is a big stand out for us…but he was here when hoots was here and most fans weren’t bothered to see the back of him, or at least didn’t see him as any real loss. I didn’t, but then I did think we should have kept him rather than replaced him with Obertan, the same as most felt I guess…Anyway my point was none of the other PL clubs rated Routledge as PL quality either, so I think he’s both benefitted from the system, gained confidence from other players deemed “championship quality” and also had a late bloom in ability.

    Still, shows us to be fair old mugs in the transfer business, all trumpet blowing our board/fans did two years ago is quite cringey to look back on I guess πŸ˜•

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  12. Me team for WHU:

    —————– Krul ——————
    Santon – Colo – Mapou – Dummett
    — Sissoko — Anita — Marveaux —
    ————— Ben Arfa —————-
    ———- Cisse — Gouffran ———

    Won’t happen but you live in hope don’t ya

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  13. Wenger “i’m confident we’ll make the signings we need because of the desire of the players to join us,” said the manager.

    So that’s Cabaye then. We should have sold him last summer, he was **** last season for us and you could tell after the first three or four matches his heart wasn’t in it. “It’s because Pardew plays longball!” was the cry, when he was one of our most guilty players of it. Walk to willo, take it off him, hoof it to Jonas. Don’t make self avaliable for short pass. Rinse and repeat.

    We need a new heartbeat to the team, can Anita do it πŸ˜• ❓

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  14. Just back from the pub. Met a guy from Coventry. The guy ws almost in tears when he started talking about his team. And we thought we had problems. I felt really sorry for him.

    Relatively speaking, at least we’re still near the top … for now anyway.

    Howay the lads. I still reserve judgement until after the next two games, and when the window closes.

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  15. Sharpy-Not sure I’d have Dummett being protected by Marv given the wings are so important for Wham and Santon isn’t all that defensively either. See how Deb does this week alongside Mbiwa from the off.

    ——————-Krul—————
    Debuchy-Mbiwa-Colo-Dummett
    ——-Tiote——–Anita
    Benny—–Marveux—Goof
    ————–Cisse————–

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  16. Kim-me too. I’m hoping Bigi can play alongside Tiote in a midfield two, both are combatitive and good short passers of the ball (Tiote used to be) so should be able to keep us ticking along nicely. I know Anita is supposed to be a DM as well, but I wouldn’t mind seeing him further forward. When he played there last season (around xmas when our squad was decimated) I remember him putting in some great shifts and motm performances. He’s not much of a goal threat true, but I think he has a lot more energy than cabs. Whether he can pick a through ball so well I’m not sure, but surely worth a shot. Sissoko and his “passing” has done my ****ing nut in.

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  17. Reading some of Pardew’s pre match quotes does my head in. There’s a dozen or so foreign managers in the Prem who speak better English than him and those that can’t still make sense. Almost everything he says is pure rubbish.

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  18. Kim – I’m still struggling to understand how they can’t get the fact we need to upgrade all over the park. At least 3 players required to avoid relegation. 4-5 to get near the top. So strange and so short sighted, mindless running of the club.

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  19. I don’t know what’s annoying me more the lack of news coming from the club or all the bull**** coming from everywhere else….

    Would like to see us start with two strikers up front because we are toothless with just the one striker.

    Sharpy I like your team but I would have Tiote instead of Anita and Debuchy instead of Dummet.

    Don’t see us scoring many past West Ham because they will sit deep and counter away from home. I think Ben Arfa and/or Marveaux will be key to breaking them down and getting us that goal or two.

    I am really looking forward to this game this is the real start of season for me like. Lets see what lessons have been learnt….

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  20. Roy – He hasnt heard because apparently Sholas starting up front tmz…… 😯

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  21. Santii – trouble for me is that Tiote isn’t as good at passing the ball as Anita.
    Debuchy looks good going forward but has looked shambolic at defending since we signed him.
    WHU will probably line up as they did last week which will mean Downing, Nolan and Joe Cole behind Maiga – which is why I’d sooner see the 3 midfielders infront of the back 4.

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  22. I see QPR have signed Matty Phillips from Blackpool on a 4 yr deal.
    He was another young un from the Championship who I reckon could have improved our squad and actually I’d have preferred him over Tom Ince to be honest.

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  23. Sharpy – i dont know how a professional footballer cant be good at passing a ball.

    I play every week and our football in the league amongst most is all on the floor and every touch is generally of a high level. Most of the teams in the league play on the ground.

    why when we get to professional level is it hoofball, all power no touch no finesse. They ****ing play every day and they cant pass a ball.

    Let me tell you there is masses of english talent lads in 20’s who can pass a ball like scholes control like berbatov they just arent in right place at right time.

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  24. “Since being unceremoniously sacked as Newcastle boss back in 2007, Sam Allardyce has never lost a game when he has prepared a side to face us”

    …And every single one of those matches have made me delighted that the fat headed ugly **** is as far away from SJP as possible. The match last season where nolan scored was like water torture and both should have docked points πŸ™„

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  25. Sharpy there has been a lot of good players that could have improved our squad but Jabba doesn’t like spending money and prefers a gamble πŸ‘Ώ

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  26. It looks like complete disarray going into tomorrow’s match. Even Willo not available due to injury apparently. All this talk of us being near the wage limit. Where does that put Man City then? It’s complete madness to talk about wage limits with clubs like that in the league. We definitely have quite a few not earning their wedge but what to do about it? Difficult to move some of them on as they are useless and no club wants them. We must pull ourselves together and play well tomorrow. I’m not thinking about Pardew, just about the players and supporters. The real professionals will raise their heads and play. The rest will be obvious to everyone. Howay the lads!!!

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  27. LST – I wouldn’t go as far to say that professional football is all hoofball. I watch Swansea last night and it was anything but hoofball. From defence to attack they were all comfortable on the ball and always had 2 or 3 options for with pass and they all looked to move forward with the pass. But when they lost the ball, every single one of them worked to get it back. Not one of them lost the ball then stood there and watched. As a person who isn’t a fan of the 4-2-3-1 formation it was interesting to watch how they did playing that way. It worked because they had Leon Britton and Johnjo Shelvey infront of the back 4. Both can play it simple or have a vision and range of passing – something Tiote lacks IMO. Infront of them was Henandez, Michu and Routledge. All were full of running, can move across the line and have an end product – something Jonas isn’t capable of IMO. Up front was Wilfried Bony, who was strong, held the ball up well and I don’t remember being caught offside once TBH – something Cisse struggles with.
    Sounds very damning on Newcastle I know, but I honestly believe Swansea are man for man better in the 4-2-3-1 formation than us. For 2 very simple reasons. Firstly they have the players to play that formation. Secondly – coaching.
    I think when you look at our squad and the players we have the 4-3-1-2 formation would suit us better. If Pards want to stick with 4-2-3-1 then I think we need a holding midfielder who can pass the ball to play alongside Anita and an attacking left sided midfielder to play alongside Benny and Sissoko.

    Rant over.

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  28. I’m curious to see how we perform against West Ham, a team with whom we are on a similar level.
    We were always going to lose against Man City, it’s just the nature of the defeat which was so disappointing.

    I reckon that we will or can hold our own with most of the teams in the bottom half of the league. The big difference is in the ability to score goals. Here we have been really poor since Ba left. That we have taken so long to find a replacement is ridiculous, and almost cost us our place in the league last season. We have cadged Remy from QPR, but the lad is knackered. Maybe he is the answer in the short term, but to go into the new season with so few goals in the team is patently ridiculous. In addition Pardew doesn’t have the players, nor the tactical nous to change it.

    Risky business if you ask me. Not only is it risky, it’s also boring for the fans, and demoralising for the rest of the toon players.

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  29. Dave – what’s frustrating for me is that all this crack of FFP and wage restraints and all that carry on, but players like Matty Phillips and Nathan Redmond wouldn’t be on huge wages and for me would be ahead of Obertan, Sammi, Amalfitano, Gosling and would probably be more productive in the final third than the likes of Jonas who will certainly be on a good wage.
    I just feel like we are a smallish squad that already has quite a bit of deadwood and we haven’t replaced or upgraded any of them.
    I know our priority has been CF but by focusing all of our efforts on that and still not getting anyone in yet, we haven’t actually improved or strengthened in any area of the squad.

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  30. Spot on Munich @37. And both Sharpy and I have been pointing to Swansea as an example of how to play football. They have a sharp edge and are full of desire. Kudos to their manager who has been tremendous with them. In stark contrast is our team with a manager who refuses to change or adopt new tactics. Cisse as a lone striker has been a failure for quite a while now. Yet have we changed or tried something else? No, for one simple reason: Pardew. We have other talented potential goal scorers in the squad yet we refuse to try them up beside Cisse. I’m thinking mainly of Ben Arfa but I think Gouffran can put the ball in the net as well. Something must change soon or Pardew must go.

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  31. “He points to the economic facts for Newcastle people in a recession some way from Hall’s revivalist talk: joblessness of 10.5%, youth unemployment close to 25%; 30% of Newcastle children in poverty – and 22,000 people last year seeking advice to cope with debt. “I am horrified by Wonga cynically trying to buy respectability by linking their name with Newcastle United,” Forbes says. “I hate the damage this deal is going to do to people’s lives, people who can least afford to get into debt. I hate this as an image for Newcastle and feel the club could play a much more positive civic role.”
    An excerpt from the Guardian. Some comments by Nick Forbes, Newcastle city councilor. The owner, Mike Ashley, or the Toad as I call him is responsible for this and the Sports Direct signs all over the ground (free advertising for him but what would he pay to do it elsewhere?). The article also points out that Ashley has begun to take back his loan, but only 11M of the 140M owed so far. It’s the lack of respect by the Toad for the city and supporters that I hate the most.

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  32. To clarify I’m saying Ashley is also responsible for taking on Wonga as sponsor. They are a disgrace as is he. Ashley will lead the way to increasing poverty in the city. His kind only understand one thing. More money for themselves. They don’t care who suffers. Out with the Toad.

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  33. Munich – I agree we need more in terms of goals in the team but with the likes of Cisse, Gouffran, Benny, Sissoko, Marv, Shola, Vukic, Campbell and even Anita in the squad Pardew certainly has some options IMO. I’m not suggesting the likes of Anita, Marv or Vukic are gonna get us 10 plus goals a season. But they are more offensive thinking players and can create those chances for hopefully Cisse, Remy and Gouffran to get on the end of. We need more up front, but it’s whether Pardew has the balls to go offensive and leave players like Jonas or Tiote out of the team.
    I honestly think that there are managers out there who are currently out of work that could get alot more out of this squad of players than Pards is right now.

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  34. Spot on Sharpy. I just don’t understand Pardew’s reluctance to try a different style of attack. We do have pacy players who can pass in the squad. Tiote is possibly out for tomorrow and his form has been terrible for quite a while. To me it looks like without Cabaye playing well he just isn’t the same player. Jonas is out with injury as well so this is Pardew’s chance to give Marveaux and Anita starting roles tomorrow. If he would only try what many have suggested we could come out with a win.
    Krul
    Debuchy (reluctantly) Mbiwa Colo Santon
    Marveaux Sissoko Anita
    Ben Arfa
    Cisse Gouffran

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  35. Quite possibly Mark @44. If that’s the case it could get ugly. I don’t think the supporters are in a mood for any more of Pardew’s excuses. Even a draw tomorrow would feel like a loss.

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  36. I don’t care if we lose. If WHU play out of this world and we play to our potential I’d have no problem losing 0-1, 0-2 or 0-3.

    It’s the complete waste of talent that annoys me so much.

    If we had Championship players then I’d expect tomorrow’s game to be difficult….but we don’t, we have international players that are incredibly under performing.

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  37. It’ easy to blame players because of poor form but no player want to play crap. They play the way they have to because of our atrocious coaching!

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  38. Geordie – I’d go with that 11 but I’d have the midfield 3 as Sissoko/Anita/Marveaux. Simply coz I think Sissoko and Marv can push up and be more of a threat creating the diamond formation as well dropping back when we don’t have the ball.
    I can potentially see this game being the last on MOTD tomorrow night – and we all know what that means

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  39. NUFC BACKROOM – CAREER HIGHS

    Joe Kinnear – Wimbledon
    Alan Pardew – West Ham United
    John Carver – Sheffield United
    Steve Stone – NUFC

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  40. SPURS BACKROOM – CAREER HIGHS

    Franco Baldini – Real Madrid
    AndrΓ© Villas-Boas – Chelsea
    Steffen Freund – Germany U17
    LuΓ­s Martins – Sporting (working with Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani and JoΓ£o Moutinho)

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  41. Some great points there KK. It is embarrassing to look at our staff compared with Spurs. But you can see the effect on the pitch. Absolutely no tactical nous at all. If we field the same old formation tomorrow with Cisse up front we probably deserve to lose. It’s got to be getting to the players as well as the supporters.

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  42. 4-2-2-2
    —————–––—— Krul β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”
    Debuchy —– Colo —– Mapou —– Dummett
    –—–––––Sissoko –————— Anitaβ€”β€”β€”β€”
    β€”β€”β€”β€” Ben Arfa β€”β€”β€”β€”Marveaux β€”β€”β€”
    β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”Cisse β€”β€”β€”β€”β€” Gouffran β€”β€”β€”

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  43. Everybody must know that Cisse needs a player alongside him. Gouffran can be that player but he’s constantly shunted out wide and told to track back. Same with Ben Arfa.

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  44. I just wish we’d stop going into games trying to nullify the opposition and start on the front foot regardless of the opposition, players, home/away etc!

    We have no style of play.

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  45. KK – spot on regarding coaches. It’s ridiculous really. We had the chance to get Steve McClaren in at the end of last season and I honestly think he could make improvements. I initially had him for the DoF role but he could have Pardews job for me like.

    As for your point re Cisse, dead right. I think with Benny and Marv in the team there would be chances created as well I think. I’m just not sure that Pardew would ever be that courageous unfortunately.

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  46. Not bad Sharpy mate @49 but is Anita big and strong enough to dominate the centre of the pitch? Maybe this has been part of the problem with Cabaye in there and with Tiote mostly ineffective. Sissoko is big enough and should be able to dominate the centre. We probably won’t find out either way as I anticipate either 4-2-3-1 or possibly 4-3-3 from Pardew.

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  47. β€œWe are all aware that we need a couple more.
    β€œIt’s not straightforward. It’s not like we need two, so let’s go out and get two.
    β€œWe need to be on our guard against other players being targeted.
    β€œSo it’s a moving feast. Therefore you have to be ready. We met on Tuesday to be ready.”
    More waffle from Pardew. God it’s sickening. What does “it’s not straightforward” mean exactly? It sounds like it means that it’s impossible for Newcastle to do what every other club has done, bring in players. What absolute *******. And saying we don’t have to sell before we buy is not believable unless we actually do it Alan!

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  48. Is it possible that Joe is completely incompetent for the DoF position? As time goes by it appears more and more likely. Just what is he doing? I know we don’t want him to state who the targets are but are there any targets? Are we going to see Cabaye become the next Carroll? Sold at the last minute just before the window closes? I can just hear Pardew now: “we are very distressed that Yohan chose to leave us and unfortunately we’ve had no time to respond and bring someone in to replace him.” Wonderful. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen.

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  49. I can just hear Joe as well: “it’s difficult losing a great player such as Kebab but we got a very good price for him. As soon as the next window opens we’ll be out looking for the next great Newcastle United stars. Trust me. I’m Joe Kinnear. Winner of 7 LMA awards (3 of them consecutive).

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  50. I’ll sit back and enjoy your comments now mates. My rant is over for now. Still there is a lot to rant about. πŸ˜₯

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  51. Geordie – I think Anita would be fine. I watched Leon Britton who’s equally as slight command the midfield alongside Shelvey. Claude Mac thingy, the French lad who played at Chelsea managed and there’s been afew others. He hasn’t looked terrible when he has played to be fair and he can’t be any worse than an out of form Tiote and Jonas.
    I would play Anita alongside Sissoko though if it was a 4-2-3-1 formation.

    I agree with Pardews ramblings as well. What the **** is the man talking about. Of course it’s straight forward, some clubs have managed it 8-10 times already this summer. I can’t decide who’s worse – AP or JFK?!

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  52. Good points Sharpy@64, there have been some very good smaller men in the middle. It would certainly give Anita a boost of confidence if he played well there. As for AP vs JFK it’s a lose lose mate. They are both looking ridiculous at this point. Only a couple of great signings and several very well played games could start me thinking they have some positives for the club.

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  53. Vurnon Anita is a 7 million euro man who hasn’t broken into the squad of the Dutch national team yet, and hasn’t yet claimed a first team place in the toon line up. He’s playing like that too, a play it safe midfielder who doesn’t have a penetrative pass to his game.
    Would he perform any better under a different manager than Pardew ? I still need to be convinced.

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  54. I think the whole squad would play better under a different manager than Pardew Munich mate. I think we all know he has very little time left to change peoples’ opinions of him. It starts tomorrow and the clock is ticking.

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  55. G2, we’ll find out pretty soon mate whether Pardew and his merry men have what it takes. That’s the easy bit mate. We are all armchair managers, and unfortunately we can tell quite easily if a team isn’t performing. We don’t need Pardew telling us something different when we can all see for ourselves.

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  56. Aye and Lawro has us down for a 2-1 win Kimtoon @68. I don’t know if that’s good or not. He usually gets his predictions for us wrong.

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  57. Aye Munich @69 it is easy to see things aren’t working for Pardew at Newcastle mate. He just isn’t creative enough for me. He’s had ample opportunity with us now and really dropped the ball. We shouldn’t need to worry about whether the team will show up and play well at home but I get the feeling it’s not a certainty they will, especially if West Ham score first and the crowd go quiet (or worse).

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  58. Don’t we just know Sammy Ameobi will be starting over Marvo tomorrow. Pardew is ****ing useless. No wonder cabaye wants out.

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  59. Surely not Alex @72? Why bring in players like Marveaux and Anita and then sit them even with injuries? People have already mentioned Marveaux’s assist record last season was very impressive despite how little playing time he had. Wake up Pardew and put a decent side on the field.

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