Losing such an influential player is a blow although it has been softened by the arrival of Luuk De Jong who joins the club on an initial loan deal until the end of the season.
The likelihood is that the former FC Twente and Borussia Mönchengladbach forward will be thrown in at the deep end and will make his debut in the Tyne-Wear derby this weekend, especially now Loic Remy is suspended as a result of his red card against Norwich on Tuesday evening.
I’m pleased we’ve beefed up our attack but then again the success of this deal depends on the detail and whether we get the chance to use the option to sign De Jong at the end of the season. If all goes well, will another club become interested and try to scupper any deal? That’s just an example…
Things never worked out for De Jong in Germany as he found his chances restricted. However his goalscoring record in Holland was impressive and if he can recapture that kind of form – the kind which has had us chasing him for some time – then he could be a good signing for us.
The problem with strikers who scored lots in the Eredivisie is that for every Ruud van Nistelrooy who was an astonishing success in England, there is an Afonso Alves who never managed to hit the same goalscoring heights on these shores. Time will tell I guess.
Moving on to Cabaye, I’m sad to see him go but I don’t really see how anyone can either be surprised that he has moved on or argue against his move to PSG. They are a rich club so he’ll be paid handsomely, will be playing in the capital city of his country just a couple of hours drive away from where he grew up and will be fighting for titles and medals whilst playing in the Champions League under the guidance of a French former playing legend. Not bad really is it?
It’s been revealed that there was some form of agreement about letting Cabaye go this winter following a failed move to Arsenal in the summer window. The fact he supposedly went on strike shows he had his eyes on bigger things and has done for some time. Anyone who listened to Joe Kinnear and his “nobody will leave” claptrap deserves to be disappointed in fairness and probably won’t go very far in life.
Besides we have little Vurnon who always got looked over in favour of Cabaye despite doing nothing wrong. Perhaps he may get a chance now? Maybe with him and De Jong we are now moving away from France and looking at Holland for transfers?
Ah well, C’est la vie. Or should that be het leven gaat door?
AGENT –
“Six months out from the World Cup, is a
hasty departure just days before the end of the
transfer market a good option? It’s not a
certainty. Lyon are starting to find their true
colours and Clement didn’t want to leave the
club during the season.
“The conditions of his departure weren’t
creating a favourable context for his
development. Clement would be arriving at
Newcastle not as Clement Grenier but as a
replacement for Yohan Cabaye.
“I have the greatest respect for the quality of
player that Cabaye is, deserving of everything
that is said about him. However, as Clement
Grenier’s agent I am obliged to say: is Clement
worth just half what Yohan Cabaye is?
“Above all the reasons which have led us to
decline the offer from Newcastle, the
conditions of the deal didn’t seem fair to
Clement.”
KIMTOON(Quote)
🙄 We have a target and we will stay on that target until such time as he gets away from us.
“It’s difficult unless you have a vision of how you want to play. and this team with Yohan Cabaye in the No 10 role was the way I like to play.
“[Targetting] Grenier was around that theme of a team that can pass the ball quickly and work between the lines. That’s what I’m going to aim for in the summer.
“The summer is going to be very important to us because of the players we have with two years left on their contract and the situation we have within the group.
“We’ve got a very young team. I think I’ve built two teams here, one with Demba and Papiss and you would argue this year and the back end of last year I built another team with Cabaye, Loic, Gouffran and Moussa.
“I’m going to have to build another one in the summer. It turns over quickly at Newcastle and you need to have a clear mind where you are going with it.”
Newcastle face a total changing of the guard up front in the summer – Loic Remy and Luuk De Jong are only on loan, Shola Ameobi is scheduled to be out of contract and Papiss Cisse is unsettled.
The failure to get Grenier means Pardew is considering a tactical change.
He added: “If we don’t replace Cabaye we might have to change our style of play a little bit because of the personnel I have. It’s about getting a result. It creates an opportunity for Hatem Ben Arfa and Sylvain Marveaux.” 🙄
mark(Quote)
well, lets get on with it. Who needs Cabs. We can play Barfa or Marv there. 23mil is very good business for a team aiming for 10th 🙄 😳
mark(Quote)
aye nee mare signings this window, 😯 horra. 😆
hitman(Quote)
So Pards is waiving the white flag with 24 hours to go. Sounds like a man who has been told no one’s coming 🙄
MDS(Quote)
Why do we even bother dealing with Lyon? They are a bigger bunch of dicks than our regime.. Lets not cry in our milk over Grenier, he is not the be all and end all, there are other mids out there that can play just as well.
I remember some of the anger over us missing out on Gervinho and Ricky VanWolfwhistle from Norwich 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Kimtoon,
It’s an insult because the media was asking Pardew – not if they want Grenier – but if they are getting Cabaye’s replacement. Like you said, everyone is a replacement but rarely are they talked about as a replacement and not with their actual name. It’s disrespectful.
Also, I see our next transfer window is all about renewing contracts and not signing anyone. Still no signings then.
funkyjesus(Quote)
Did we honestly really believe there would be any permanent incomings 😕
Think we are actually ok in MF it’s up front where we look a bit lightweight for the Derby.
KIMTOON(Quote)
@Aussie.
aye there are other mids. but we’ll not sign them. Theres more chance of us selling another than buying..
mark(Quote)
FJ, when the press guy asked Pards if he saw Grenier as Cabs replacement Pards did not say yes rather he just said what a wonderfully gifted player he was and that, that was all he was going to say as he wasn’t our player as yet. I thought he was very respectful ,the problem is the press not the club in this instance as it’s them calling him Cabs replacement. But the player/agent simply don’t want to come end of the day and it’s probably more about money than whom he replaces I’d bet as it nearly always is.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Mark, trust me mate, we will get someone in… 😯 😆
not all negotiations are straight forward. Remember we knocked back the gunners when they bid on Cabaye.. there are a lot of factors that need to be considered. If I was going to spend 10m of my companies money, I would be making sure that it was a bloody good deal!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Can’t wait for the window to shut now,get on with that Derby game and move on,hopefully Luuk will be a hit even if he doesn’t play on Saturday.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Whats the bets Pards is on the verge of walking ?its starting too look that way with what he is saying . Could not blame him when Ashley keeps selling his players .
AXEL(Quote)
Aussie,I admire your faith mate I really do 😉
Wonder if Luuk can get Joe to ring Siem 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kimtoon,
He did say he didn’t want to talk about another club’s player, which is only right after his comments about PSG tapping up Cabaye (also ironic after his talking about Andy Carroll for three years non stop) but he didn’t ever correct him being a “replacement”.
I know it sounds picky but it’s all semantics and the choice of words – or non-choice of words in this case – are vital in negotiations. If I was Grenier listening to that interview, I’d have taken it that I was just Cabaye no. 2.
Also, did anyone else think Pardew was perhaps the most depressed and negative sounding he has ever been in that interview? He looked near tears at times.
funkyjesus(Quote)
Axel, read this earlier
George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes · 9 hrs
Pardew very subdued in his presser today, both with cameras on and off. Said he was fine, so you can read what you want into that. #Nufc
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KIMTOON(Quote)
FJ,as much as he irritates me at times,I really really feel for the guy, every feckin window he is screwed over by Jabba, it’s starting to look a thankless task, I wouldn’t blame him one bit if he ****** off tbh, but then we’d have the horror of JFK. 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
We are in talks with Filip Djuricic from Benfica.
Santii(Quote)
puppet boy will not walk. where else will he get a chance to work in front of 52k fans.
He’ll whine to Ashley but he’ll roll his sleeves up and solider on.
Ashley is playing all of us.. 😆 the fat c**t
mark(Quote)
lets just sell all of our stars since we’re in great shape and wont go down. Hopefully its enough for Ashley to ****-off 😆
mark(Quote)
Kim,
I agree. Pardew is in a rare and odd position in football. He has made major errors on his own back but this season has admittedly tried to rectify that (hoofball last year to bottom of hoofball stats this year) and generally tried his best. He does fail when he shouldn’t but succeed when he shouldn’t also.
He has no idea who will be left after each transfer window but then isolates everyone but about 13 of his players anyway.
I still have no idea what to make of him and he’s been here nearly 4 years now.
funkyjesus(Quote)
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/agent-of-benfica-player-confirms-newcastle-negotiations-with-pard
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim 😆 I can be positive and in a good frame of mind and we make no further signings or I can be all down in the dumps and we still make no further signings! 😉 The outcome is going to be the same, as I have no control over it, however I can control how I let it affect me tho!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
FJ ,yes good analysis there mate, agree.
KIMTOON(Quote)
so AUSSIE
are u the type of guy who just rolls over and constantly gets bummed, 😯 but keeps on smiling regardless. 😛
sometimes its good to shout. enough! 😆
mark(Quote)
Aussie ,That’s the spirit. 😉
Anyway on a personal level ,all being well Lew is off to respite for a couple of days tomorrow so I get to watch the game without having to stop and cook lunch on saturday 😀 😎 Will enjoy the break just gonna laze around rest my bad back if possible. No way will that fat ******* owner spoil my weekend, but if those players don’t beat the Scum that’s a different matter entirely given the last couple of derbies.
KIMTOON(Quote)
:Kim Philip who. u ever heard of him..
I’d rather play Marv, Benny or even Bigi.
Maybe thats why we got Gosling back in Jan, just in time for Cabs departure 😯
mark(Quote)
same old *****
different window
heard and seen it all before.
Don’t believe a word of it until a player is wearing the Black and White.
Simples.
Once again pardews hopes and dreams have been dashed by the penny pinching ******* running this club.
He wont walk, he’s not man enough.
But I do kinda feel sorry for the fool.
Plus he knows he will be to blame if/when the scum beat us on Saturday.
We were toothless against Norwich, we have nee chance against a rejuvenated filth.
Last chance to cancel your season tickets is tomorrow.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I guess the real question is will Ben Arfa **** himself seeing a De Jong flying at him in training now?
funkyjesus(Quote)
btw I heard Cisse was off to Rubin Kazan.
Anyone heard owt further about that?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB-That was the same story in the summer, and Ba the year before. I dunno I just think they are a go to club when there is little info on whether someone is moving.
Newkie(Quote)
@BB
aye, heard similar 2day on Talksport. It was reported 2 Turkish teams were ready to do business. heard nothing since.
mark(Quote)
So Mark,
are you the type of guy that constantly whinges and shouts “ENOUGH!” on their lap top 😆 😆 good to see you are changing the world one “enough” at a time! 😛
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
@AUSSIE
nah, I use a tablet mate. laptops are so 2012 😛
mark(Quote)
Ice – you’ve made my day – I’m joining Michael Flatterly and his Riverdance Crewe – for a good old grave dancing session !
One of the most cretinous people on all of the blogs imo. We all have different opinions to a degree – but most of us are consistent yet honest enough to change our minds, but out of everyone – he with his back post editing, lying, cheating, deceiving and thieving – had to be the worst there’s been (and like a saddo I still have the screenshots to prove it lol)
Good riddance I say!
Stardust(Quote)
Mark 😉 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I thought Mikey liked a gamble ❓
He should have gambled on Kebab leaving for £20M+ and had the Grenier deal tied up weeks ago.
But instead, when the whole world knows we have money to spend, he goes and offers the Lad a derisory wage offer and the club a lowball transfer fee.
WTF joe the dumb ******* role in all of this is also a mystery.
Total and utter shambles as per normal.
I give up, I really do.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Kim @ 251.. I am in a good mood as we speak (even tho Mark is trying to bring me down) but if we lose to the scum on the weekend, all bets are off! 👿
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
nice to see a well supported team like Fulham spending 12.5 mil on a striker. I wish we could compete with them 😥
mark(Quote)
“are u the type of guy who just rolls over and constantly gets bummed, 😯 but keeps on smiling regardless. :razz:”
Wow just wow 😐
If that is how you describe Aussie
Might as well enjoy it i say. 😉
Mark your must be the type of person that while getting bummed cry’s please stop, please stop. Yet still comes back every week for seconds after whinging about it non stop all week 😎 😆
Santii(Quote)
Aussie don’t let that mark one bring you down 😆 😆
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfyFTzZDMM
Santii(Quote)
@SANTII
you seem to know me very well, are you a regular? 😀
mark(Quote)
Anyone who says they are felling fine.
Fine is an acronym. it means
****** up, insecure, neurotic and emotional.
Just like the rest of us.
Premandup(Quote)
@Aussie.
We will lose on Sat.
1-0 to the Scum. I can smell the defeat. but ho-hum why get down about it.. 😛
mark(Quote)
lmao touche mark 😀
Santii(Quote)
anyway 17 hr day just gone. 4:30 start. and probably a 15 hr day.
Premandup(Quote)
C’thee 😯
Premandup(Quote)
Santii @ 266 😆 😆 😆 That has lifted me up mate 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
@SANTII 😆 😉
mark(Quote)
Just read his goodbye blog – putting down the one fella who stood by him for ages while he was mugging him off – Hugh was a cracking lad.
Having said that his post almost looks the same as his last great fundraising scam too.
Stardust(Quote)
Mark,careful you’re are starting to sound as cheerful as Stuart79 😯 😆
If we lose to the scum, I will get up out of my chair and shout “Enough” and I will instantly feel better about myself!! 😛
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Prem@271 🙁 that’s not good mate, get to bed.
KIMTOON(Quote)
@Aussie..
😆 ****, I best get to bed them 😀
don’t shout enough, just whisper it, much more meaningful
mark(Quote)
then 😳
mark(Quote)
STARDUST only thing he didn’t do this time is pull the old ill-health card
icedog(Quote)
Ice, yes he did.. 😆
Originally this site was supposed to be a co-operative thing with several contributors, but since then it has been just myself for quite some time now, and it has never come close to being what it should’ve been. I have been busy with more important projects, health problems and even trying to have a social life from time to time!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Re Worky’s blog: I beg to differ from popular opinion on here (so what’s new?), but of course I never had the negative experience that others have had so can’t comment on that aspect of things (though I did have a nasty pop-up appear on my computer after being critical once).
I find many (not all) of Worky’s comments on football to be fair. At least he doesn’t just spout total guff about NUFC. Unlike many on here who believe the first crazy thought that pops into their head to be some kind of universal truth, Worky often tries to find logic, something tangible, inspects sources, etc. I like that in a blogger.
I prefer this site for no reason other than I followed Toonsy; I like his writing style. And I’ve found there are a few people here who raise a smile in me and some others whose opinion I have come to respect (not many, though). The standard of comment here, in general, isn’t any better than any other blog, and I include Ed’s blog in that (I hasten to add, though, that I rarely go there; I can’t stand Ed’s writing)
I for one would welcome Worky’s followers here. I don’t suppose Worky himself would comment here, not using that username anyway, maybe using one he has used before (imho).
Brisvegas(Quote)
Having followed the Grenier developments, I have one question –
In this day and age which club doesn’t take the time to ensure a player’s interest before placing a bid – thus avoiding time-wasting, embarassment and generally being made to look silly???
Erm… that’d be us. Incompetent twats
M(Quote)
Yeah, I never had any real problems with Worky over the years, he never did anything to me so I have tried to stay away from the bad mouthing thing.. Chuck on the other hand is one of the biggest dickheads I have come across and I have met a few.. 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
@ NEWKIE
ya can take me silence as meaning i was off playing mw 😆
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
NEWKIE
<<<<<<<<<<<, dos not see how any1 is worth droping a 30 to 40 goal a season striker for you saying a goal scorer aint the most important person on ya team 😆
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
goals win ya games games won = points ya geting the drift yet newkie
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
any manager that drops a score that scores 30 goals a season should not be in a job to long in my view
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
It’s deadline disappointment day. Are Toon fans ready for another one.
JJ(Quote)
JJ I don’t expect Mike Ashley or Joe Kinnear to sign anyone. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we do like a bonus.
stem(Quote)
Joe Kinnear’s probably taking french lessons this season. Expect more loan signing’s just encase his french doesn’t work.
stem(Quote)
I don’t expect Newcastle to win a trophy in my lifetime. Certainly not with Ashley and Kinnear running the club. Unless a balance sheet is a trophy.
stem(Quote)
Bris…I agree about Worky’s writing and comments(some of them) they were decent, but his constant abuse and putting down of people who were writing articles for him is the reason why he’s been left alone to operate his blog. Worky and his ex “henchman”( 😆 ) also sent threatening and abusive emails to more than one member of this site(and yes I’ve seen the emails) and this on top of his begging for donations to upgrade the blogs server then spending it on other things(his personal laptop springs to mind) and then shifting the blame for that onto someone else as it was “they suggested it” is why I can’t stand the fecker.
Ref Worky’s followers, some I doubt would come on here anyway, too much water under the bridge and all that but everyone should be welcome on here, but as there are only about 4 of them left now it shouldn’t make a difference either way 😉
richietoon(Quote)
Ref Grenier, how do we find out if he’s interested, surely no approach can be made to the player until a fee is agreed with his club and/or permission is given?…obviously that’s if we do it by the book 😉
richietoon(Quote)
what would you know about books cuda, it’s not like you have ever read one! 😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
what i cannot understand is what really is Joes job at the toon i know he has the title of DOF but what does he really do the Jong deal was done by charnley while joe watched the w/ham game just cannot grasp what the fk he does,maybe hes just a spy in the camp for jabba 😕 😕
icedog(Quote)
Aussie…Playboy is a book is it not? for the pornographic intellectual 😆
Ice…As someone said the other day he’s probably the point of contact between the manager/Carr and Ashley, I for one am glad he doesn’t get involved in the finer details of negotiations.
richietoon(Quote)
Richie. it’s more of a magazine but I will let you off as Playboy does have some good articles
😆
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie…Ah right, us pornographic intellectuals aren’t clever enough to distinguish. They do publish some cracking articles though 😛
richietoon(Quote)
Well I wonder if Jabba has the chopper on standby today incase its a busy day, or will Pards put us out of our misery early on and let us know that we wont be bringing anyone in.
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