What does the future hold for Mbiwa?

Is this the end?
Well if reports are to be believed, it looks like Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa is set to join Marseille after agreeing personal terms.

Now I must make clear that this is only a rumour at this stage and the provider of this inside information is Foot Mercato. I took the time to have a look at their website but to be honest, it proved fruitless as my French speaking abilities really comes down to a few cuss words at best.

This rumour does seem to have some legs though. After playing in most of the pre-season games Mbiwa has been a noticeable absentee in the Premier League thus far and really doesn’t look like breaking into the starting eleven any time soon. Couple this with reports that we are interested in Micah Richards and Virgil Van Dijk and it seems that there really may not be any future for Mbiwa at Newcastle.

After signing from Montpellier in January 2013 for a reported £8.5m fee, Mbiwa came to Newcastle with a very good reputation and great deal of excitement was building amongst Newcastle Fans. During his first season he played 14 games (three as sub) and looked a little off the pace as he tried to adapt to the cut and thrust of the Premier League. I can’t speak for everyone but most fans were more than willing to give him some time to adapt and show what he was really capable of.

The 2013/14 season was his chance to show what he could bring to the team but unfortunately he struggled to keep a hold of a starting place in the first team. In the end he made 23 appearances (five as sub) and between some promising performances there were some terrible gaff’s that really seemed to set him back. His red card against Liverpool was the moment he lost the faith of Alan Pardew in my opinion. Even when we were leaking goals at the end of the past season, Pardew seemed reluctant to give the young Frenchman another chance and centre half. When given the opportunity to play it was left back and this could hardly be called his preferred position on the park.

So, what of Mbiwa. Is he a good player that has not been utilised properly and given the time to come to terms with the Premier League? Or is he simply out of his depth and Newcastle are wise to move him on so they can look at getting a new centre half signed before the transfer window shuts?

What are your thoughts?

127 thoughts on “What does the future hold for Mbiwa?

  1. KIM

    Not sure I’d read much into those world rankings to be honest…

    I’m not looking down on Besiktas. But the fact is that they’re a Europa League team in a sub-standard league. Every club in Europe in England, Spain, Germany and Italy must be deemed as a better club to join, probably in France too.

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  2. KIM

    Come on…you could be saying the same thing about Tiote, Debuchy, Cabaye, Goofy etc. but the fact is that they took their opportunities and they went from strength to strength. MYM hasn’t and it’s as simple as that for me.

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  3. Kim I agree with you. Colo is untouchable even if his heart isn’t in it and he is playing poorly.

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  4. “When we made all these signings this summer, there were some who thought we would continue to sign players and we’d be challenging the top 4″…Really? you must come into contact with the complete idiot and therefore should be ignored section of support, I have never come across a single fan who has thought that.

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  5. Besiktas J.K.

    Champions League

    Wednesday 27 August, 19:45

    Emirates Stadium

    Arsenal

    1 – 0

    Final

    Besiktas

    Scores & Schedule

    TDS, These aren’t bad results, considering

    30 Jul – Champions League Third Qualifying Rd

    Feyenoord

    1 – 2

    Final

    Besiktas

    6 Aug – Champions League Third Qualifying Rd

    Besiktas

    3 – 1

    Final

    Feyenoord

    19 Aug – Champions League

    Besiktas

    0 – 0

    Final

    Arsenal

    27 Aug – Champions League

    Arsenal

    1 – 0

    Final

    Besiktas

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  6. TDS@58 – if you’d read correctly I said this year not this season. I know I’m daft but not that daft 🙄

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  7. There wasn’t much point in convincing our highly paid captain to stay if he was just going to warm the bench…

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  8. Whumpie – I think the club had 3 or 4 summer targets for CF – Remy being option 1 having had a successful loan period. But we have also tried to sign Lassoga, Gomis and Lacazette this window.
    I think Charnley has done well this summer with the players he’s brought in, but it goes to show how difficult it can be trying to bring in CFs.
    I think players like Welbeck will see Spurs and Arsenal as better options than NUFC.
    Whickham could be an option, but it would depend on Sunderland bringing someone in for themselves – and even then, would they want to sell to us – and is he the 15 goal a season CF that we need?.
    Is there another loan option that could suit us? – I can only think of Guiletti from the top 4 in England, but I couldn’t say he’s any better than what we already have to be honest.

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  9. TDS…Tidied that for you…”Every club in Europe in England(with the exception of Sunderland), Spain, Germany and Italy must be deemed as a better club to join, probably in France too”

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  10. KIM

    You’re right. Not bad results. But they’re still sub-standard to every club in Europe playing in England, Spain, Germany & Italy.

    Maybe they’ll take a punt on him but he hasn’t contributed to this club for a while so I won’t be sorry to see him go. It’s like selling a car that doesn’t actually start…

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  11. GEORGIO

    Hehe. Fair enough!

    But I’m not bothered about last season now to be honest. I consider the 2nd half as a screw up after Cabaye left. I’m more bothered about how we perform over the next few weeks/months. And yes, I’d say we’re a top 10 club and with players that will be trying to break into the top 7.

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  12. We are all Europe 😉 but yeah oops didn’t register that as i was just quickly scanning thru the comments 😳

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  13. KIM

    Besiktas? No they’re not, they’re in the Europa League. Didn’t get through into the CL, they lost in the qualifier.

    Don’t give any weight to that rankings site you posted. Anyone could make up a site, decide how points are allocated and voila! It’s not official, it’s not endorsed and there’s no clarity on how points are allocated. It could just be made up by some student as far as I can tell.

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  14. Sharpy – good points, all. It does seem that strikers are just that much harder to bring in than other positions for some reason.

    I don’t think anyone is particularly enamoured of Remy, but I’m still on the “better than nothing” side (just) because he was here for the same (crap) reasons last seasons and did ok.

    It is a bit humiliating for the club, though… 😳

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  15. Whumpie

    Im on the “bide are time side and wait for better options side” 😀

    Is Remy really saying he doesn’t want to come here or is it just made up press ****e.

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  16. TDS

    ‘No undroppables…but every manager has an idea of his best 11’.
    ‘There wasn’t much point in convincing our highly paid captain to stay if he was just going to warm the bench…’

    So even if Collo was playing very poorly he shouldnt be dropped for a player who had been playing well?

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  17. SANTII

    With Remy it’s all agents stuff. No way has a journo asked Remy if he wants to join NUFC and he’s said “No.” Remy wants what is best for Remy and both he and his agent want that to be a CL club with a CL striker’s wages. I reckon he’ll stay at QPR with the hope that a CL club will pick him up in Jan or next summer. If he doesn’t think the setup at QPR will allow him to showcase his skills, then he’ll want to move to a club like Newcastle to push for a move to a CL club next summer. Modern greedy footballer…

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  18. Geordie Deb

    MYM wasn’t playing well. He might have done well for a game but Colo was reinstated knowing he would get back up to a level that’s simply higher than MYM.

    Clearly MYM hasn’t shown it in matches or training to be good enough for this club. Why do you think they would let him go if he’s that good? And why do you think newly promoted PL clubs wouldn’t try to loan him if he’s got what it takes for the PL? It would be in NUFC’s interest to have him play for a whole season in the PL for the likes of Leicester, because if he did well then we could take him back next season.

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  19. Love the delayed shock when you realise you made a mistake that makes it look like you can’t spell! 🙂

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  20. TDS@91 yep on Wednesday night, but they at least had a shot at it and are regulars in the Europa lge, so they can offer Benny more than we can.

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  21. KIM

    Yeah…in a way…

    But don’t forget that we regularly sign players from the likes of Holland and France where they already play in Europe. Players want to join us to prove they have the ability in one of the best (and richest) leagues. They obviously want to do it to ultimately earn a move to one of the biggest clubs in the PL and get the money, the status and the trophies often associated with that. Players don’t move from the PL to Besiktas for ambition frankly…

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  22. Santii, I think waster is a bit harsh mate, after all the club offered the waster a contract extension last year which he said no to.

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  23. I we are unable to get a proven goal scorer in this window, then we need to keep Benny in my opinion and get him playing in the first team again.
    Aston Villa have shown with Hutton and Zog that players who appear to be finished with the club, can find a way back in. Personally I’d play Benny on the left with Dummett behind him then tell Dummett to forget about getting forward and concentrate solely on defending – that would negate Benny having to track back as Colback could help Dummett out –

    ———————— Krul ———————
    Janmaat – Micah – Colo – Dummett
    ——– Sissoko —— Colback ———-
    —- Cabella – De Jong – Benny —–
    ——————– Chucky —————–

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  24. Santii, his name as been mud pretty much since he said no to the extension, he actually wanted to wait it wasn’t a flat out refusal as I understand.

    Ice @107, It doesn’t matter what links or press stuff gets posted it will get rubbished if it doesn’t suit an different point of view in my experience . 😉

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  25. KIM @112 very wise words carefully chosen 😉 unlike me I tend to call a spade a spade to much but that’s me.
    Ime Starting to think Richards will come in and is holding out as there has been quite a bit movement in the market and nobody seems to have snapped him up

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  26. Bids going in for players that they know won’t be accepted by the club or player. 🙄

    Some things never change. 🙄

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  27. I’m feeling a bit bad about some of the harsh things I’ve had to say about wor Pardew. Not the things I’ve said about Mike mind. Those were well deserved. But Alan is in a difficult position. Sometimes his pencil isn’t very sharp. He has a lot of worries. I’m sorry Alan, I’ll try to be more understanding from now on.

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  28. As Official Blog Hobbit I should be monitoring my own comments for carefully. Things have gotten out of hand. I’ll make it up to you Alan mate. I promise. Not you though Mike.

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  29. I think it’s safe to say I have seen Virgil Van Dijk more than anyone else on this forum (my Celtic situation is likely known by most) and I can safely say if we are being offered him anything up to £10m – MUST BUY.

    He is a ridiculously good player. He is Coloccini in an almost scary way just without the age deterioration. Obviously he has been blessed a bit by playing in Scotland but he’s still young and his potential is bonkers.

    Just in case people wanted an opinion from someone who has actually seen him more than YouTube.

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  30. I can’t believe some of the opinions on Mbiwa on here. He had been treated terribly and made a scapegoat for APs shortcomings, along with the other obvious players. When he has played CB last season we have statistically let in less goals (check NUFC stats on twitter, he has done up stats). Yes he had a few poor performances but nothing that colo, willo and Taylor haven’t done in the last two seasons.

    Can you honestly say he’s so poor that the three amigos are better players? Willo is a donkey and as avg as they come, colo is ageing and his performances are suffering, and Taylor is a clown. Surely an ex captain of French league winners and international can get into a team that has let in close to 130 goals in two seasons? He isn’t the saviour but he’s the youngest and has the most potential of our seniors CBs. I’d love to see the other three be forced to play RB when we have an injury and form crisis. The mind boggles how people can’t see how badly AP has messed up here

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  31. FJ thanks for that,nice to know some one has watched him in real time,are you judging that on CL footy,as I find the standard of teams playing Celtic I the SP are at times poor

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  32. Icedog,

    Yes, Virgil has been immense in the Champions League. He and Forster were our two stars in Europe. He is a one man defence in domestic.

    There is one goal VVD scored in domestic football where he takes it from defence and just runs and scores on his own. It’s a Messi goal from his own defence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphF42yoNyk

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  33. Was a bit shocked to see Lei/city buying Simpson from QPR no fee disclosed yet,looks like Remy is going to Chelsea but JM not sure about medical side

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  34. Remy will be prolific in a top side I’m sure. Wasted at the toon. Don’t blame him one bit. He’s far too good for us.

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  35. Why are some people so hung up on our manager that MYM seemingly failing to make the grade us his fault, yet he deserves no credit for the improvement of the likes of Debuchy, Cabaye, Tiote etc.

    1 player. 1 significant transfer failure since the Xisco days. Not a bad record I’d say. Pointless tripping out some stats to prove your point when you don’t have access to the stats from training, from Prozone etc. He only played a few matches because he didn’t earn his spot.

    And I asked a really simple question! If he’s so good, why aren’t the lower down PL clubs asking to take him on loan? Would suit all parties. But they’re not interested.

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