After a full weekend of of football there is only one game left to complete the round. Newcastle United take on Stoke FC in a what could be described as a bottom of the table clash.
Newcastle currently sits second bottom thanks to the efforts of Burnley and Stoke sit a mere two points ahead. So with a win we could see Newcastle move up above Sunderland and equal on points with Everton and Hull. So it just goes to show how important a victory is and the the three points that comes along with it. It will be a tall order to travel to the Britannia Stadium and come away with a win as we are yet to get that all important first victory as yet. Stoke have not fared much better to be honest. They have just the one victory to date. So it has all the hallmarks of being a dour game and one can only hope that it rises above the promise that it is showing leading up to kick off.
I really hope Pardew starts with Cisse and Riviere up front and comes out attacking. We have nothing to lose at this stage and it would be nice to see some attacking intent. We have seen some improved performances of late and I am hoping that we can continue the slight rise in form. Stoke are there for the taking if we are good enough. I really hope we can pull of a win and get this season started proper. Howay the lads.
Aussie Magpie Fan
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2776350/Mike-Ashley-does-not-want-Newcastle-relegated-Magpies-owner-content-finish-17th-suffer-financial-trauma-sacking-Alan-Pardew.html
Perfectly explains the reality of the situation.
Stuart79(Quote)
Sharpy – I think the comparison with Villa would be better two seasons ago when they had the youngsters in their first season. They were being beaten. 5,6 and 7’s. We don’t have that time I’m afraid to give them a chance. Albeit can they do any worse? Probably not but it really wont help their development getting smashed every week in an ordinary team.
As for why they haven’t sold them; well they’re better than having cardboard cut outs but there’s always the possibility that they can’t find a buyer for them.
Armstrong is different as I believe he will be a good player and he should be given more of a chance, although when I’ve seen him in the PL he looks a little bit out of his depth.
Sorry You can’t judge Satko on a couple of ore season games and reserve games. It’s a bit different facing Costa, Aguerro, Bentake, Bony or even the likes of Long than facing a young kid in the reserves.
I really can’t believe you’re advocating putting the kids in when were joint bottom of the league and have only taken 19 points from possible 75. 😯
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – and I really can’t believe you’re writing them off before we’ve even seen them. It’s the whole point of a youth system!!.
You seem to have got it in your head that playing them will damage them if we have a few bad games – yet if we are waiting for us to perform well they aren’t gonna get in coz the teams performing well!.
If we don’t play them then they may as well be cardboard cut outs FFS.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy – Every single pundit I have ever heard have said its wrong to put young kids in a situation as bad as ours. Why are they wrong and you’re right?
I really can’t believe you think Satko and Streete would be better than Collocini (Argentinian International). Laughable.
Stuart79(Quote)
I think it’s fair to say if they were better than what we have they’d be playing.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – I’m happy to form my own opinion mate, I certainly don’t need Robbie Savages help thanks.
Firstly – Coloccini has played for Argie 39 times in the last 10 years – lets not big the fella up too much.
However that said, he has been our best CB in recent seasons and I don’t actually recall saying drop Colo for Satka. What I have said is that if senior players aren’t performing, then give the young uns a chance – and that would include Colo. But why not try Satka alongside Colo?.
Young players play without fear, without a care of what’s going on. All they want to do is play first team football, make an impression, win games and grow their own reputation and grab some headlines.
What has Pardew got to loose, and it the young uns do well, then it may well give some of the senior players a kick up the backside they need.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Yes young players do play without fear. Not one of the young centre halves have played in the PL. Why do you think that is? Maybe they’re not good enough yet. Why don’t you think Chucky has played yet? Maybe it’s because he’s having a mare in training and it looks obvious that’s he’s not up to it.
One of Pardews strengths is that he does give young players a chance. He’s given Ferguson, Ameobi, Tavernier and more recently Dummett a chance. So if Satko and Streete were good enough I’m sure he’d play them. he Doesmt want to lose!
Stuart79(Quote)
We have been having this debate about playing the young’uns for the last 3 seasons, with the same excuse every year. That being we can’t introduce them into a shambles of a team on a losing streak.
But we Didn’t introduce them when we were pushing top 6 before last xmas either.
So in hindsight, we really should do away with the whole academy bollix because under Pardew, they will never get a chance to shine.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB – It defies logic that Pardew wouldn’t play them if he thought they were better than what we have. Maybe they’re just not ready? He will know more than us as he sees them every single day.
Stuart79(Quote)
Ashley’s cowardice has brought us to this. He can’t deal with a real manager. Someone who knows football and how to get results. He ran away from Keegan as fast as he could. He can’t bring himself to admit he’s wrong about Pardew any more than he could about Kinnear, and Wise. He is poison to the club. Boycott now or face more misery later. We are going to be relegated this season if nothing changes in the next few weeks. Having an owner who is a coward in denial will finish us off as a club if he isn’t forced out.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Yes maybe.
But I have lost all faith in his ability as a coach anyway, so I don’t hold out much hope for his judgement on these guys either.
Just to add to that, if we aren’t seeing any improvement in the U21’s after all this time, it doesn’t say much for the whole coaching set up.
Just another cog in the NUFC shambles.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-mike-ashleys-newcastle-7867519
I’ve only been saying this for the past 4 years.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – the only young un Pardew has given a fair crack is Dummett. Tav and Fergie?! – when was that like?. He puts them on the bench, brings then on when it’s too late or gives them the odd cup game. But he certainly isn’t know for bringing young players through like!, quite the opposite in fact. He has his favourites and sticks with them.
Are they good enough?, who knows, but there is only one way to know if a player is good enough to play in the PL, and that’s to play them in the PL.
I’m not suggesting throw them all in together against Man City or Chelsea you know, and I’m thinking more the forward players than CBs (though the logic is still the same). But what I’ve seen of Gouffran so far this season, he hasn’t done enough. Why not drop him for Armstrong, Perez or Sammy?.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Well I remember him playing the kids in the Europa League quite often.
But lets look at it another way. He obviously doesn’t think they’re good enough to play. I think his opinions have been pretty reasonable since he’s been here. He didn’t fancy Fergie, Vuckic or Campbell after giving them games. None of them players could even get a game at their loan clubs last season. That probably says a lot. Aarons was getting his chance before he got injured so he does play them if he thinks they’re good enough.
So based on his decisions on young uns previously I trust him as to why he’s not playing some of them now.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – well if you’re basing it on Pardews decision making and opinion then hell you should have said earlier!. 🙄 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
come on Stu – he only played Rolo out of shear desperation.
Oh and surprise surprise, the Lad stepped up when given the chance.
nice one Percy. 😈
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB – So Pardew played a youngster who did well and he didn’t do it because of what he’s seen in training he’s done it because he was desparate? that’s just ridiculous. You can’t just completely slag him off for everything that goes wrong then give him no credit for decisions that go right. Maybe he saw Aarons doing well in training and thought he’s ready to have his chance. Just a thought.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu,
It defies logic not playing a player if they are better than what’s ahead of them? Take HBA, Mbiwa, Marv to name but a few…let’s not even go back to his west ham days. Pards plays his favourites which are generally hard workers with little or no quality. I would totally disagree in terms of giving youth a chance, he’s successfully brought through very few players amongst a host if highly rates youngsters.
Buddy(Quote)
Buddy – Football is full of highly rTed young players who turn out to be very average. Look at the youngsters at NUFC. People like Fergie, Campbell, Ameobi and Vuckic were really highly thought of but all of them went to lower leagues on loan and all of them struggled to get a start. That shows that Pardew was right not to put them in the first team. If they can’t start lower league games they’re not going to be good enough in the PL.
So what I am saying is don’t just take Pardews word for it. Look at the managers of Boro, Birmingham, Carlisle and Rotherham and ask why were they playing? Maybe they’re just not good enough.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – that’s my point. That’s why Pardew is in the ****, coz he doesn’t make enough good decisions. He’s as pig headed as our fucking owner.
What the hell goes on on the training ground, because if he sees MYM as a RB or not performing better than Willo – then the lad goes off to Roma and is playing regular MOTM standard football …
These young players who aren’t good enough are scoring regularly in reserves and are getting call ups to represent their countries. It may not be PL standard, but it’s the highest level they are being allowed to play at the moment.
Sharpy17(Quote)
So essentially I believe his ability to spot Young talent and know if they’re good enough has been proven with the players above so I am prepared to accept that he’s not playing the youngsters now because he feels they’re not ready.
Stuart79(Quote)
I agree that some clearly aren’t good enough.
But I also think it is debatable that Percy gives them enough opportunities to prove themselves.
Its easy for me to be negative to him because he is such a stubborn, arrogant, obnoxious *****. Maybe that has tainted my view. 😳
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
In my opinion he is atrocious at getting the best out of players or developing players with potential. Very few have improved under him and I have no doubt this filters down. I’m sure we would have seen far more young players come through if we had a half decent coaching team in place.
Buddy(Quote)
Aussie – are you about fella ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
yeah BB, whats up?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
I sent in an idea for a new article if you can use it.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
cool, I will have a look for it…. I think they may go through to Toonsy… I will contact you by email if I can’t find it, are you ok with that?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Pointless, I never saved it. 😳
What’s the score with Toonsy these days anyhow ?
Have I missed something ?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
😆 never mind.. if you remember what you wrote, let me know… 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)