The mad Janmaater!

With a few wins under our belt and the pitchforks aimed at Pardew put away for safe keeping this week, I thought I’d take a quick look at one of our new recruits Daryl Janmaat. After a slightly protracted transfer due to the Debuchy move to the Gunners, Daryl Janmaat signed on for six years from Feyenoord.

I got the ball Ref!
I got the ball Ref!

Janmaat did come with some serious credentials as a world cup player for Holland and I think the general consensus amongst fans that he was potentially a very good signing. He did have some pretty big shoes to fill with the departure of Debuchy who really played well for us even when the side was struggling. To his credit, Janmaat has looked far from daunted by the crash and bash of the Premier League and has adapted quite well to the fast paced nature of the league. To me, he has looked better as each week has passed and has shown to be a good attacking outlet as well.
The thing I personally like about him the most is that he has a bit of mongrel in him. As far as I am concerned, every defender needs to have a bit of mongrel built into their DNA, without it opposition forwards would have nothing to fear and have an easy time of it. Take his tackle against Balotelli on the weekend. It was a no nonsense challenge that could have easily garnered a red card but it showed that he will not back down from a tough situation. I am pretty sure Balotelli didn’t touch the ball again from that moment on. I am not condoning bad tackles, don’t get me wrong, I am talking about tough mind sets and a bit of fire in the belly stuff. If he had gone in studs up and brought down another player, I would be all for him getting carded an suspended. Debuchy has a similar mindset but was a little more prone to cards. To his credit Janmaat has only 3 yellows from his 10 starts. Not too bad for a tough tackling defender. He has also popped up with a goal which shows he can mix it up in the forward half.

Like I stated earlier, I think Janmaat is improving with each game and he is going to be a key player as the season progresses. I just hope we can hang onto him a little longer than we did with Debuchy.

What are your thoughts?

433 thoughts on “The mad Janmaater!

  1. One thing that has certainly changed is that we are getting more players forward more often and are playing with more width. Now I don’t know if that’s due to a tactical shift, personnel changes, growing confidence or what. I suspect it’s a combination of those things but you are right there hasn’t been a dramatic shift in our style of play.

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  2. Pardew is the second longest serving manager in the premier league yet according to Bootsy is way out of his depth being in the premier league. You couldn’t make it up. 😳 πŸ˜›

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  3. Newkie – I think the Ba sale was slightly different thanks to that stupid bloody clause!!.
    I know what you’re saying about fan opinion on Obertan but I’m talking about Pardews opinion on Obertan. The kid couldn’t get a sniff last season and was up for sale, but nee sod wanted him so he stayed. Pardew didn’t really include him in pre season but then the season kicks off and injuries hit and Pardew has to throw him in. He has a couple of good games and then Pardew starts raving about him and all the things he does in training. If that were the case, why didn’t Pardew play him ahead of Gosling or Shola last season?. Sammy came on a murdered Spurs in the 2nd half, but he was shipped out to Boro last season. I think Pardew may have just focused too much on the players that had left rather than those he still had. That was my main reason for wanting a new manager – fresh eyes looking at the players there.
    But to be fair, I think Pardew has come back this season ready to look at everyone.

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  4. Sharpy, Ive watch pre season games, and Ive been surprised to see Obertan playing well, he deserved his run, shame this injury came in

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  5. Sorry if I upset you. Meant that evidence is used to damn whoever the poster does not like, Pardew Ashley etc. Used the fact that you used a counterargument to show that evidence can be used more than I way. Not the combined that you were damning in that example.

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  6. Eric Sykes- I wont complain if Good replaces Willo, if Vuckic takes Anita’s place on bench knowing that Raylor is already ahead of him, wont complain if Gouffran stays as backup for the season. Our team is strong enough if youth are being given a shot like it is now. If we sell TiotΓ©, Abeid is starting DM, Colback is an option ahead of back 4. And I will keep saying Coloccini could of been a great DM and still can be an option if needed. Curtid Good is decent with the ball and can play DM too. We need to find a way to put Good, Ferreyra, Vuckic in the mix in my opinion. Hope Bigi returns better from his loan spell and can take Anita’s spot.

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  7. I personaly think that Pardew played “reserves” against Man City to protect his first eleven and much to everyone’s surprise including him and me, we won. Maybe that result caused a rethink. Certainly, had he reverted to his first eleven for the next game and lost he woulod have been on a hiding to nothing. Anyway, none of this conjecture really matters because we are where we are which is not bad at the moment.

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  8. Cholo: @306: I can honestly say I have not seen enough of Good, Abeid, Vuckic, Fererrya or Bigi to be able to judge them. They have either been loaned, injured or in the reserves so I just don’t know.

    Gouffran and Anita seem average, but maybe serviceable. Williamson seems like at 32 he is done and we have better options now.

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  9. Prem – πŸ˜† You certainly haven’t upset me mate, just wasn’t sure how to read your post that’s all ;-).
    I see Marvs exit as little more than getting rid of a high earner rarely used. Benny was a high earning distraction and both of those were blocking a route to the 1st team for younger players coming through.
    MYM has came out himself and said he was lost at NUFC, and I think Pardews long term plan was for MYM to replace Colo – but he wasn’t going to drop Colo this season. Maybe a season long loan could do him good, but personally I’d be happier if he was still in our squad like.

    Cholo – I’m not sold on Vuckic mate. I think we go get Connor Wickham for nowt and let Vuckic go. I would sell Anita and move Santon into that midfield mix. I haven’t seen enough of Good to judge him, but personally I think CB is where we should spend some money on a really good experienced CB.

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  10. Groucho@307… you got it spot on there imo…

    A change of tactics, and a seemingly new found defensive stability is bringing results. Could this coincide with the introduction of Abeid sitting in the centre as an anchor ?

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  11. And now for my celebration haiku:
    Once we were rank
    Now we make a glorious run
    Autumn leaves bring great footy

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  12. Huge changes afoot in the club. Abeid brings stability. You don’t notice him for a while then the opposition mount an attack and he’s there to break it up. Perez has the makings of a great striker. Dummett was tremendous at CB. Colo played a brilliant game. Sissoko looks fantastic in the middle of the pitch. He dominates going forward.

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  13. I really like Abeid. Although he had no direct assists against West Brom he started off both moves which led to the goals. He links well with Janmaat, plays the ball to feet and retains possession well. I am sure that if he continues to be picked his confidence will grow and we will have a great player on our hands.

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  14. Eric Sykes Sharpy17- I’ve seen Curtis Good play at Dundee, hope he’ll get back to full fitness, he has decent left foot, composed on the ball, got good positionning, shame he was injured during WC, got injured in his 1st cap and was supposed to start for Australia. We may have to bring a CB, but we have Lascelles coming next season, so I’d have Coloccini 1st, Dummett(if doesnt play LB) and Taylor 2nd and 3rd options, and Good as 4th CB option, or Satka, we really have nothing to fear in that aspect, Taylor Good would be my second starting defense. Dont think we need to bring back MYM, in same type of CB, Dummett does it better, remember he played CB when he came off bench vs Liverpool last season when MYM picked red card

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  15. Vuckic for me is a talent, dont know about his work ethic, but feel he’s been waste as Target Man and was more of a CM or ACM, he got a decent left foot and he’s tall. And I remember when he played vs WBA in 2011-12 to replace Cabaye, we lost that game but he played very well and never go another shot

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  16. We dont really need to sign new players, hope we’ll give a run to Ferreyra, because its unfair to write him off without see him play. He can bring us that presence, got good first touch and can finish

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  17. Sharpy17- Id take Conor Wickham if we cant find a way bring AC back at least on loan. in fact, loaning AC with an option is the only move Id make IF we’re about to sign someone.

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  18. I feel Ferreyra will turn into a canny striker. He just needs time..

    He looks great on You tube…

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  19. Kimtoon, that’s not good mate. We should ask the question who suggested we sign him in the first place ? I watched him briefly at Schalke 04 tournament, and he didn’t look that bad πŸ™

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  20. Cholo – to be fair mate Dundee is nowhere near the EPL level, so can’t really compare. As for Vuckic, it worried me how little time he commanded whilst on loan at Rotherham. Again, with all our injuries and he hasn’t even made the bench for us this season.
    I also read the article Kim refers to about Chucky being poor – he has time though so lets see.

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  21. Sharpy17- Dummett came back from St Mirren and still manage to play well for us. Conor Newton did the same, and Im sure he’s a decent player, same for Tavernier last year at Rotterham. The fact he came from SPL means nothing as if its an inferior league, its also different from playing in a better team, in superior league. Its about getting experience. If he does not get a chance in 1st, he wont ever be good enough. And for Chucky, I dont believe that article saying he’s poor at all. And I rate him more than Riviere, as loan he cant be a flop, we have nothing to lose with him. If hes about to be in form in 2nd half of the season, Im fine with that. But dont believe that “Chucky being poor” thing.

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  22. Cholo: I am hoping they all come good man. As I said before, I haven’t seen enough of our new signings to judge them – so, Riviere, Facundo and Cabella could all turn out good for all I know.

    Sh!t, I cant judge Abeid after 2 games either.

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  23. Eric: I know where you coming from, I just had some little time to take a look at some of our youngsters over the seasons, some are better than 1st thought, for example I think Conor Newton or Dan Gosling could of been at least as useful as Anita. I think Cabella will turn out good, thats a process and Pardew is right about that, he signed for big money, and watching the Perez or the Aarons of the world coming in and delivering make him fired up, I thought he was decent last game and hope the fact France didnt pick him will have good effect on him. Riviere is nothing more than average, you can trust me, same mould as Gouffran(at least we got him at decent price) or Anita who aint better than Danny Guthrie was for us.

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  24. And Eric: Abeid is that good, in terms of abilities, he is TiotΓ©+Cabaye in one, and can be effective as AM too. His time is now, really not sure how to change that midfield for TiotΓ©

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  25. Cholo – I’m not writing Good off mate, I’m just saying having a good spell at Dundee is no guarantee he’s going to break through. I mean Newton and Tav didn’t, and Adam Campbell has had some very good loan spells, but is still probably behind the likes of Armaz.
    If Good doesn’t come through, I think the likes of Satka or Streete will, so we have potential in the ranks at least.

    As for Chucky, I’ve just realised that its a Lee Ryder article for the Ronny Gill – so it’s probably as true as Anita spitting his dummy out.

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/incredible-facundo-ferreyra-can-seize-his-newcastle-chance-1-6935946

    If Pedro reckons he’s decent, ill take his word over Ryder’s any day.

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  26. I’m not saying Chucky is crap by the way, just posting the link to the article. At the end of the day I haven’t seen much of him to judge, but it IS strange he hasn’t featured at all. Let’s hope it’s just a fitness issue as the more potent front men we have the better.

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  27. Vuckic has been the star in waiting for yrs now, IMO he will never make it with us and would be better off at a championship side where he moght make it if he can stay injury free.

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  28. Kim – I know I’m probably on my own here, but I don’t think that Ashley is the devil sent to destroy us either to be honest. Certainly he’s made alot of mistakes, but I don’t think he’s working to destroy NUFC.

    Dave – I agree with you about Vuckic, and I’d perhaps say the same about Campbell and Ferguson as well.

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  29. Sharpy @333: hopefully there will not be another Frazer Forster in there. Has anybody seen him at Southampton, is he any good? The ones you mentioned are probably out of contract soon. I would sell them for a nominal fee if we can and have a sell-on clause if possible. Maybe Rangers would want them πŸ™‚

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  30. So Rolando Aarons is injured again… Now we have Sammy, Gouffran Ayoze and maybe Campbell able to do a job there. Or Callum Roberts who seems to be another prospect.

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  31. Eric – I think there are 2 different group of players in the reserve squad – players who could be good enough, or certainly good squad players, like Perch, Guthrie, Best and Simpson – but these players want 1st team football. Frazer Forster is slightly different, coz he is good enough to be where he is, but it was him of Tim Krul really coz teams don’t really rotate goalkeepers.
    The other group is the likes of Vuckic, Campbell, Fergusson and Good – who arguably have to work harder to prove themselves as they are probably 3rd tier players.

    I actually think we need maybe 30 players. 2 players per position 22 players, then around 8 versatile players to cover injuries and suspension. I actually think we aren’t far away from that.

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  32. Sharpy – I could be wrong mate, but didn’t Oba make a few appearances but then go on the huff? I seem to remember him getting the odd game, putting in disappointing shifts and then being dropped. There’s only so many chances you can give the bloke when he looks bad in a poor team. I certainly didn’t see anything to think he was more worthwhile than Shola or even Gosling in the side, despite the fact they were leaving. Maybe he’s decided to knuckle down and if that led to his improvement in form, then good on him. Shame he’s out for months now though, typical luck for the lad really.

    For my two pennies worth, time is up for Vuckic. Look at Perez now, Vuckic couldn’t nail a place down at Rothers and he’s probably more injury prone than Owen. I liked the lad but it isn’t going to work out.

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  33. Newkie – I think this season is the first that Pardew has used Obertan as an out n out offensive player. Last season he was expected to track back as much as getting forward. I think a combination of not being allow to play his offensive game, and being behind a player out of position (Sissoko) and a player that didn’t put the effort in training (Benny) pissed Oba off. I still think that Pardew could have made better use out of Sammy and Oba last season.

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  34. Pardew couldn’t get anything right after Cabaye left! I just hope he realises that the present team is probably as good as we’ll get this season. No Willo, Gouffran, Tiote or Cisse, stalwarts of a ****e team.

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  35. Sharpy-is he out and out offensive though? Or is it that he’s just a bit more confident going forward? Pardew has played the counter attacking game ever since his first full season in charge. Oba used to be a proper grafter, but he has still kept that up this season. Unlike other seasons though where Oba would falter once getting towards the box, this season he’s seemed a bit more decisive?

    Is that on instruction? I’m inclined to think it’s just a mentality thing and that his confidence is up. Agree he and sammy (and pretty much everyone else) could have been used more effectively last season πŸ˜€ but I think you can level that at any manager. With the way sissoko is playing now with his experience out on the wing last year, in hindsight I wouldn’t really change anything (just like I thought we were right to play him there before – no he’s not a natural winger, but he did a consistently good job, and now he is really shining in the middle.)

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  36. Newkie – I disagree mate. I think when Cabaye left, Sissoko should have been moved in to fill that gap – obviously not like for like. But Sissoko, Tiote and Gosling could have made a 3 man midfield, then use the likes of Oba, Sammy or Benny, Marv as offensive midfielders with Remy, Gouffran or LDG through the middle.
    There’s nowt to say that would have worked better, but as the system that Pardew was using was failing so miserably, I think it was worth trying.
    That was my biggest gripe with Pardew. I felt he was just sending the team out with the same instruction every week – the same subs being used and the same result.

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  37. Sharpy – Possibly mate, he should at least have given it more of a go, but when Pardew’s confidence goes he tries to keep things as simple as possible, which helps in some situations but not when you need a total overhaul as we often have. I think Pardew had too much hope that Luuk could change things around for us, and by the time we’d tried any number of 1/2/3 strikers playing at the same time there wasn’t a lot of difference sissoko would have made in the middle, imo.

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  38. Newkie – It is barmy some of the things I’ve been reading. People claiming that Pardew is finally doing what they had been asking for. It’s all *******.
    I only remember BD asking for Taylor to start ahead of Willo, maybe a few others but I definitely remember him being criticised for saying so.
    Was it TGS as the sole Obertan praiser?
    1) The League Cup team – if we’d lost having started the younger players, Pardew would have been crucified!
    2) Starting one striker and one that doesn’t look a natural at it up front on his own in Perez.
    3) Dropping Perez after he scored the winner in the previous game.
    4) Playing four wing backs against Man City and playing Dummet (who’s natural position is still LB where he was MOM against Liverpool) at Centre Back – Square pegs in round holes!!!
    5) Letting HBA go.
    6) Making Aarons/Obertan defend FFS!
    All things that Pardew has done that the usual suspects would go mental about had it not panned out, but because it has have began claiming that it has been obvious all along πŸ™„

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  39. Sharpy17- He did not well, but cant say he send same team, we played solid when he turned in 352 but got very unlucky at Stoke and we got robbed at Liverpool, He tried Ben Arfa as number 10, he failed, he tried Anita Santon and Sissoko at Chelsea he failed. The only thing that seemed to work was De Jong RΓ©my toghether. But they were some players who didnt care last season, Im sure of that, avoid injury to not miss WC, like Debuchy or RΓ©my

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  40. The biggest annoyance is: “We are only doing well being Pardew has finally started playing Sissoko in the centre”… Sissoko has been playing in the middle all season. Pardew was criticised for isolating the striker.
    If I’m not mistaken most were in agreement on the first half against Spurs being the worst performance of our season?
    Sometimes I wonder if goldfish have managed to work out how to use computers. πŸ˜†

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  41. Sharpy – just in general. Read a few posts yesterday but didn’t get a chance to respond until today.
    The Williamson for Saylor is really baffling. Firstly because barely anyone asked for it, secondly because Pardew only did it because of injuries!

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  42. I still think Ashley did the bare minimum in the transfer market in the summer spending wise. Lucky for him we our winning now. What I don’t like is the fact we our still 129 million pounds in debt, while spending nothing in 5 years. While he rakes in free advertising making sports direct even richer.

    I can not fault Pardew and the players they have done well working under these conditions that could have easily back fired.

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  43. Stem – Yeah our defence really is thin on the grounds – thank God for the international break.

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  44. Salano: we weren’t playing that badly at the start of the season but we were not getting results which seemed like a follow on from the end of last season. The result at Southampton also seemed like a repeat of the capitulations in the second half of last season. How can you blame anyone for thinking – here we go again, same old Pardew? Especially since he had done it before at Charlton, West Ham, Reading and to an extent Southampton.

    The changes in personnel have been as much down to injuries/luck as design, but I will take it because I always want us to win. He wouldn’t have played Taylor if Williamson wasn’t injured, or Abeid if Tiote was fit.

    You say Sissoko had been playing in the middle. Yes, but with no wide players. That only changed recently. Remember he was even telling Sammy NOT to attack in the Spurs game and has always encouraged Gouffran to be more of an auxiliary defender, leaving a striker isolated.

    He obviously tried some new things because of injuries, loss of form and fear for his job. If you can’t see that I don’t know what games you have been watching.

    Lastly, the most mentioned thing on all NUFC Blogs and The Chronicle article replies was that Williamson should not be playing. The fact we didn’t buy a new centre back, which everybody had been clamouring for, left only Taylor and Dummett (Pardew played both, he had no f@cking choice against West Brom because Taylor was also injured and he had finally seen the light on Williamson). If you haven’t seen calls for Williamson to be dropped, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Some of your points may be valid if you give Pardew the absolute benefit of the doubt and you forget last season. I am not willing to do this because I think he was awoken from his arrogance and got lucky. Long may it continue.

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  45. ST

    Totally agree. Its laughable really. The Sissoko in the centre debate makes me cringe, when i hear our fans say that.

    and on Taylor/Williamson there is only one person i can remember sticking up for Taylor continuously on here was Dave apart from that he was considered deadwood waste of space by most. All of a sudden everyone knows Taylor should of been in the team.

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  46. Oh, and there weren’t massive calls for Taylor because his form wasn’t that great last time he played and he is made of glass. There were massive calls for a new centre half though, implying that Williamson should be dropped. Remember Coloccini is Captain so it is hardly likely he would have been dropped, is it? So that leaves, YES, Williamson.

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  47. Stem

    We have spent alot of money on alot of good players and earned alot of money on selling a few big players (Cabaye & Carroll mainly)

    The poor Alan Pardew working under these horrible conditions patter is a total joke. Plenty of managers work under the same conditions. Mourinho made history at Porto working under the same transfer restrictions.

    Pardew knew full well what his role would be coming into the job and he took it he works under/with a director of football boohoo poor Alan.

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  48. @Eric
    I completely agree that Pardew has peversely had a helping hand from the injuries. He (and none of the bloggers) would have played Abeid/Perez/Dummet@CB/Sameobi.
    I can give him credit for the way the team has fought for each other and for him.
    All I’m seeing is an average manager and his average team hitting a really good run of form. Last year we did the exact same thing and were pushing on 4th at xmas before Ashley screwed everyone over. Pardew has always done decently under stability and beyond horrifically when Ashley has stirred the ****.

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  49. @Eric
    That is bananas πŸ˜† Saying “I want us to sign a new defender” is not the same as saying “Taylor should play ahead of Williamson”

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  50. Santii said @351:

    “All of a sudden everyone knows Taylor should of been in the team.”

    Apparently Pardew didn’t know he had a potential England player on the bench as he said recently, just before Taylor got injured in the typical twist of fate.

    If he had this potential England centre-back then why wasn’t he played at the tail end of last season and the beginning of this season when he was fit? I know it is Pardew blather, but if Pardew wants credit then he should have made the change himself not through injury or desperation.

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  51. Salano @356: I said it implied we wanted to drop someone and the obvious candidate was Williamson. I stick by that.

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  52. By the way, I do put some thought into my opinions and don’t just do the opposite to what Troy says, although that is as good a rule of thumb as any πŸ™‚ For example, I think Chris got me thinking from his earlier post @266 and that made a very pleasant change from me scratching my head at what the Troy Man says. Most others on here make sense even if, like Salano, I don’t agree with everything they say.

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  53. Saylor has always had potential to be a very good player and England regular but sadly he is very injury prone and inclined to suffer the odd brain fart in the box. Saying all that if he could lose the latter two defects he would make good captain material as I have said before.

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  54. ST – last season I was asking for Sammy to be used more, and in the last few games of the season I was shouting for Armaz to play ahead of Shola. As for the Willo v Saylor, my stance was that at the time both were as poor as the other, so it was irrelevant.
    I certainly wasn’t shouting about Oba last season, but I am now. As in, if Pardew is able to get this kind of performance out of him now, why couldn’t he last season?!.

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  55. There have been discussions on here over the years on the Willo Saylor debate. Many going for mr Reliable over the more eccentric Saylor. Yes Saylor has more potential, but never seems to be able to manifest it without as someone said earlier brain farts. I think that’s why M’Biwa was seen as a better option than both before he proved us all wrong.

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  56. Solano @343/345 thank you! It’s good to have you talking sense on here (complete coincidence of course that I define sense as someone who agrees with me) πŸ˜€ πŸ˜†

    Sharpy – are Ancelotti, Benitez and Mourinho poormanagers for not getting Torres to play well consistently? Oba has always looked to have the talent to be a good footballer, it’s only his heart and his head where the questions have been raised. Maybe the confidence issue was finally addressed this season (I’m not saying Pardew had a hand in it, it could have been purely down to him, or one of his team mates, or maybe that the crowd no longer expected anything from him, who knows?)

    Some players improve and some decline, consistency over years is what divides the great PL players from solid PL players.

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  57. I’ve always favoured Willo of tayls and I’ll hold my hand up to it, Dave is the one who stands solidly in the Taylor camp. He can return that faith with some pretty standout performances when he gets a shot, but it’s usually ruined by a silly mistake for which he gets banned and loses his place in the side, or just as often, injury.

    Williamson was getting some pretty rave reviews from pundits in the last two years and I think FunkyJesus even suggested he might be our best centre back. He’ll never be great on the ball but I do think he offers more consistency than Taylor, but he has definitely been underwhelming this season.

    Right now though, I’d play Dummett ahead of both of them…

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  58. Newkie – what on earth are you talking about mate πŸ˜‰ :lol:.
    So firstly Torres was in the starting 11 regularly despite not playing well – Obertan wasnt. Secondly, Chelsea was still winning regularly even with a misfiring Torres in the team – Newcastle weren’t.
    Pardew has been forced to put faith in Obertan this season and Oba (pre injury) was doing a good job for him. Within a matter of 8-10 weeks Obertan went from being top of the exit list to first name on the team sheet.
    As I said earlier, I was saying these things more about Sammy last season, but the question counts for both players really. If Pardew has been able to get Oba and Sammy back involved this season, just how much effort did he put in last season – or was he more focused on the likes of Benny, because that’s what the fans wanted to see. Maybe there was pressure from Ashley too, to play the higher paid players to justify they salaries.
    I’m not trying to take over old coals here either mate, I would hope Pardew is asking the same questions and learning from mistakes.

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  59. Regarding the Willo v Saylor debate, I actually think they are pretty similar in ability. Both have mistakes in them, but Saylors seems to be more noticeable if that makes sense. Saylor has also been plagued with injuries which is a real shame, coz just when he starts to form he’s out usually for months with an injury.
    Of the 2 I would generally favour Saylor – more because he’s a Geordie and seems to play with more passion. I think Lascelles is a very good CB and shouldn’t take long to settle in – will Colo and Willo still be here next season?, will MYM return?.
    I honestly think it’s the area we need to do the most work on personally – but then for as long as I’ve supported the toon, that’s always been the case πŸ™„

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  60. Santii well i hope Ashley actually replaces players in january instead of just selling them. Injuries could pile up in that time and we might need some extra cover.

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  61. Stem

    Stubborn? Not at all. I just enjoy rubbing noses in the ****e most have spouted on a daily basis about Pardew. πŸ˜†

    They are all squirming now. πŸ˜‰

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  62. Troy @367: read what I say Troy. You will see I am not backing down from one word I have said and I am certainly not squirming. I hope I am making a reasoned argument for my position and you are absolutely free to disagree with me. For me to take you seriously, you do have to offer something in reply though rather than the equivalent of na,na,na, na. Also, you can’t say “I refer the honourable gentleman to the post I made some three months before”. I doubt a lot of people read what you post, let alone pay much attention or memorise them.

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  63. I am not backtracking unlike some who said the equivalent – “he is average, no maybe he is not, he should be sacked if we lose to Leicester. Nobody could do well with this sh!t squad and there is nobody else we could hire that would do better, but sack him if we lose to Leicester. See, its Pardew who is great now even though if we lost to Leicester it would have been the sh!t squad’s fault and he shouldn’t have been sacked! Oh, wait a minute did I just make absolutely no sense again πŸ™‚ woo hoo, same old me”.

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  64. Taylors got more quality on the ball, Pace and compliments Colo better than Williamson.

    Willios not half as bad as made out by some; He has been good value for money but like Best, Lovenkrands, Simpson, Guthrie ETC. probably should be shed to make room for better players…

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  65. Sharpy -eh? Obertan was first team when we signed him mate. He played a regularly the season after. You just said why couldn’t pardew get him playing like he does now(by which I guess you mean about 4/5 games recently) compared to all the years before. All I was saying is that players can change over time, it isn’t all down to the manager…like I said, I was also saying sammy should get more time last season, ive still got no clue if he’ll make it.

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  66. Eric

    You may put a lot of thoughts into your posts but believe me, they don’t make them any more credible than as if you didn’t. πŸ˜‰

    You talk as if there was no reason other than bad management for our slump in the second half of last season.

    That on its own is bordering on ignorance. This time last year we were around the same position as we are now. Our star player was sold in January and Remy got a long term injury shortly after. What do you expect?

    Most managers have a catalogue of sackings on their records. Pardew is not on his own. Clubs don’t give managers time to turn things round. Maybe he could have turned things round at his previous clubs if given time. If you had your way, his toon record would have been another sacking, yet he is now being applauded by the football world.

    You talk as if you were right in your judgement of Pardew. Well, I’ve got news. You aren’t. You are actually wrong. You say you aren’t squirming. You should be. I’m squirming for you. For me, it confirms that if this is you putting thought into your posts, then you really are Clueless. πŸ˜‰

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