The real reason United fans aren’t sad to see Pardew go

The myth behind the man
The myth behind the man
If, as expected, Alan Pardew is confirmed as Crystal Palace manager it leaves our club with a position to fill.

From the outside it looks as though Pardew has done a decent job at United with some sections of the media branding our treatment of him unfair during recent rumblings of discontent.

We keep hearing that we finished fifth, that we have unreasonable expectations, that our final league positions have been alright. Apparently we expect Champions League football and should just pipe down because we’ve won nothing for years and should just be happy with staying in the Premier League.

However I’ve stumbled across a page of facts that at least paint a fairer picture of why so many fans were becoming unhappy. As I said in a previous article, you can’t dine out on a fifth placed finished forever, but I’d like you all to cast your minds back to the end of the 2011/2012 season where times were happier and we’d just unexpectedly qualified for the Europe League. Now I’d like you to take a look at the table below…

Points table

All of these statistics have been compiled since we finished fifth so there are two complete seasons plus the games we’ve played this season which is quite sizeable example in fairness. They also compare with teams who have remained in the Premier League for the entire period. So, starting from the top left….

Games Won: These stats cover a total of 95 league games of which we’ve won 32. That’s a win ratio of just over 33%.

Games Lost: Of the 95 games, we’ve lost 45 which is 47% of our league games since the 2011/2012 season.

Clean Sheets: It’s not good reading here either as we’ve managed to maintain a clean sheet on just 21 occasions. Granted it’s unfair to land all of that at the feet of Pardew but there are signs that the defence needs work which have gone unheeded.

Failed to Score: We’ve fired blanks in 33 of these of these 95 games. Only Stoke and Aston Villa have failed to find the net more than us.

Goals For: Not good reading here either with just 107 goals scored, or an average of just over one per game.

Goals Against: A total of 153 goals conceded – 1.6 per match – the worst of the 15 teams sampled.

Goal Difference: A net goal difference of -46 which has only been ‘bettered’ by Aston Villa and their goal difference of -55.

Total Points: We’ve amassed 113 points – just under 1.2 each game.

Some of them aren’t bad but others are chronic and should help with why some fans have just had enough. Remember we’re not even talking about the waffle, flannel, headbutts, pushes, swearing, record losing streaks, historic runs of derby defeats and other incidents that have happened on his watch.

I’ve written this because I was stood having a coffee yesterday and was talking about football to a colleague. The subject came up about Pardew to Palace and his response was the same as many on the outside have said – “I thought he was doing OK for you lot,” he quipped. After a while pointing things out he got where we’re coming from.

So if you find yourself in a situation like that, whip this article out on your phone and show people that all has not been rosey in the garden of St James’ Park for some time and that we’re not a reactionary bunch. We’re just fed up with the excuses.

Agree or disagree?

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1,403 thoughts on “The real reason United fans aren’t sad to see Pardew go

  1. Eric – They not only think the fans are gullible, they know it.
    and still there will be gates of 52k for the next home game. Supporting the team, NOT the regime ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ (whatever ๐Ÿ‘ฟ )
    18 matches left in this season and the fat kunt can get his grubby hands on another ยฃ60M.
    Its dead easy this football club ownership malarky

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  2. CARVER IS A GEORDIE AND DESERVS a chance pardew and sir bob tort him everything he must know something.

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  3. Once you have the gullible fans on board and **** scared of relegation, you can get away with just about anything.
    You can even stand up and laugh at the ****ers while they call you names.

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  4. Radgy: what has being a Geordie got to do with competence? Robson was a great manager but was not infallible. He picked Shola FFS.

    Carver is at least partly responsible for the Williamson free kick routine that has never worked, not even once and yet they (him and Pardew) kept trying it. And he is ugly.

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  5. Dubai: As I said to Radgy – then contribute something constructive instead of complaining, or as the Great and Wonderful Troyster says, just ignore the posts if you don’t like them.

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  6. Radgy: I am not bullying anybody. If you make a criticism I think I am perfectly within my rights to counter it? I understand I take it too far with Troysta, but it was 2 am on Saturday and then 11pm and there wasn’t anything else going on ๐Ÿ™‚

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  7. Who the hell would I be bullying anyway – certainly not Troysta, Big Dave, BrisVegas, Kimtoon or BB. They have very strong opinions and are not afraid to express them. Me bullying them, ha ha, you are really funny.

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  8. Would people be happy with Hoddle? I think he’d be ok.

    What abour Remi Garde? Do we keep Cardew until the end of the season or appoint now?

    Going off the papers we’ll know more in the nxt 48hrs….. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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  9. Its fair enough if players were carrying knocks but we did have a full week to recover…

    Get the FA on the phone and report Ashley for match-fixing ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

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  10. i wood like hoddle in … no problem..

    not sure about..who is cardew ?

    erik your’e a bully and booring..

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  11. Alreet man Radgy. If you explain who I have ever bullied I am sure they would disagree as they can all stick up from themselves and don’t need any help from you.

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  12. Lame bull**** from Carver about our injurys to why we did not perform,Pearson made 8/9 changes to his side ffs

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  13. Palace fans better get over there quick scoring exploits of today.. they’ll be Pardewed soon enough, let the containment commence ๐Ÿ˜€

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  14. Pardew said โ€œI said to the players that an FA Cup run gives confidence and it breeds a winning mentality,โ€ said Pardew.

    how the f*** would he know that ๐Ÿ™„

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  15. and more telling

    โ€œSo weโ€™re in the hat and, like in any cup competition, if youโ€™re in it, you can win it.โ€

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  16. The new boss believes favouring positive, attacking football will be vital to their chances of avoiding the drop. ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    โ€œIโ€™m going to promise the fans two things – ๐Ÿ™„ one that weโ€™re going to put the ball at risk and two that weโ€™re going to have a go,โ€ said Pardew. ๐Ÿ˜†

    โ€œIโ€™m fortunate that they already have a special bond with me anyway, ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜ณ through my playing days here.

    โ€œBut Iโ€™ve been on the other side of that support and that noise that they generate at Crystal Palace.

    โ€œHopefully that will keep them in that frame of mind that they are at the moment until the end of the year, because we wonโ€™t go up, or stay up, without them.

    โ€œI really did change my formation today, really and truly to say to the team, that we need to put the ball at risk.

    โ€œI was trying to get the message to the team that we need to have a bit more attacking oomph, so to speak. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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  17. He was called “Super Al” at Palace as a bit of a joke. He scored a goal in the FA Cup semi-final which made the fans not treat him as as much of a joke. He was a journeyman player at best and has been a journeyman manager at best (he did get Wham to the FA Cup final though which is a lot better than he ever achieved for us). Palace fans will soon change their tune.

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  18. Mark: that makes sense about Troysta being on a wind up as Radgy. Why though? It sounds like SPS to me.

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  19. I would imagine that Glen Hoddle has all the necessary UEFA trainer tickets which would allow him to manage the toon ?

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  20. flippin heck 1386 hits, it’s got to be a world record for toonsy !
    Time for a change though…nee new articles doing the rounds, there’s enough to blather about that’s for sure !

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  21. I am going to beat a dead horse here. If you were QPR, Sunderland, Leicester or Burnley Chairman and sacked your manager, would you seriously consider Carver for the job? I highly doubt it.

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  22. Psychs

    Not like you to flog a dead horse. ๐Ÿ™„

    There was always that chance should Pardew leave that Carver might get the role. I did warn you.

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  23. Kim

    It will be very interesting to see what they do with the profits. There’s no excuse for premandup & Begas to support Ashley if he doesn’t spend it on the squad or infrastructure of the club. They’ve maintained he’s a good owner.

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  24. Troy , Exactly, at some point he has to invest some of that into the team. But then again I’m at a stage where I would like him to take as much as possible back towards that loan and make us a more realistic option to a buyer.

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  25. I don’t remember you or Troy Jr. or even Total Radgy saying we would end up with Carver, until maybe the last week after Pards quit. I saw you say Pardew is average and we wouldn’t get anybody better but you never said Carver.

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  26. yes Kim me too.
    Its been widely reported that he is only taking ยฃ18M back, to leave us still owing the fat git ยฃ100M
    I hope he takes a lot more than that back and sells up all the sooner.

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  27. Kim: I sent something (I wouldn’t call it an article) to AMF about 24 hrs ago. No reply.

    I think he must have forgotten to wind up his computer. Or maybe the Y2K millennium bug has just arrived in Perth.

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  28. Troy “Thereโ€™s no excuse for premandup & Begas to support Ashley …”

    I guess in your own fevered brain I might support Ashley. Reality, however, is vastly different.

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  29. From The Guardian about Carver:

    “he was asked if could he improve Newcastle. โ€œThatโ€™s a million-dollar question, weโ€™re in a good position at the moment,โ€ Carver said, on the back of a fifth defeat in seven games.

    โ€œListen, everything Iโ€™ve ever gone into I want to win, right? I want to be the best. If I didnโ€™t have confidence in my own ability Iโ€™d just walk away. I wouldnโ€™t throw my hat in the ring. Iโ€™d just lie down. Iโ€™ve got a five-and-a-half-year contract, Iโ€™d stay at the club. But no, Iโ€™m prepared to take that challenge.โ€

    It is typical that he brings it back to the contract because he knows he would be sacked by any decent manager. He also has the over-confidence that was also evident in Pardew. If this clown get appointed manager… I will do absolutely nothing, supporting NUFC is in my blood ๐Ÿ™‚

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  30. On holidays Vegas…I will see what I can do on my phone before heading out for a swim! ๐Ÿ˜†

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  31. After hearing Carver’s explanation I feel better about him. I was very concerned when after saying he would put out the strongest team possible he missed out our best players. But his statement makes sense.
    John Carver:

    “I put out the strongest team – other than Ayoze Perez.

    “Perez is coming into a new culture from Spanish football and he’s one of our best players – one of our shining lights in a season when we didn’t even expect him to be in the team. We thought he’d be one for the future, but he’s gone into the team and has been outstanding.

    “If you had seen him after the Burnley game or the following morning at the training ground, he’d ran out of fuel. For me to take a massive gamble 48 hours later with him would have been too big a gamble.”

    Daryl Janmaat had a problem with his groin. Moussa Sissoko – both of his hamstrings were tight and I didn’t want to risk that. (Fabricio) Coloccini had a problem with a nerve leading into his buttock. Steven Taylor we lost because of a snapped Achilles.

    “Even the morning of the game we had Jack Colback travel with us despite having a tight hamstring. Unfortunately he felt worse and didn’t play. That’s why I didn’t take the gamble and he wasn’t even on the bench.

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