Changing of the Garde!

To be totally honest I do not know what to believe when it comes to who will be our next manager. On one hand we have Remi Garde who seems to be the odds on favourite at the moment but there are conflicting reports about whether he will start straight away or at the end of the season.

Will he or won't he?
Will he or won’t he?

So there is some media confusion around his appointment. You can’t help but feel that they are clutching at straws due to the secretive way the club goes about its business.

There are also reports that three other candidates that have been interviewed as well. Once again, how true this is, I am not so sure, at least the report is a positive one. We have had a number of managers rule themselves out of the role lately so its nice to hear that a few candidates are interested. Mind you I am glad that the likes of Bruce and Hoddle have ruled themselves out. It was nice of them to do so even though there was a good chance that club was never interested in them in the first place!

Now we have the special one saying that John Carver should get the job after our game against Chelsea. It is is a glowing endorsement, it is not often Jose compliments a manager other than himself! Nothing personal against Carver but I think we need a clean break from the coaching team we have had for the past four years. It’s time for some fresh ideas and coaching .

So if I were to pick from the candidates that we have been linked with, I would be choosing Remi Garde. To me, he feels like a good fit for the players we have. For those who are unaware of his record here it is.

Games played -117

Games won – 60

Games drawn – 26

Games lost – 31

Win percentage 51.28%

Not a bad record in anyone’s language but whether he can translate that kind of success to the premier league is anyones guess.

So as it stands Remi Garde is the one to take us forward but I don’t doubt for a second that we may sign someone else from out of the blue. One thing that the Ashley era has taught us is that nothing is certain until the dotted line has been signed. I just hope we can get that signature sooner rather than later no matter who it may be. Uncertainty around leadership never bodes well no matter what environment you ply your trade in. So hopefully Charnley is working hard behind the scenes to get the deal done. Until then, I guess all we can do is wait and speculate!

 

 

591 thoughts on “Changing of the Garde!

  1. Good old Aussie loves to back his boss up, but then he is head of PR for Jabba’s regime.
    I would also think that we have lost out on atleast £50 mil on advertising due to SD, IMO that is money we could have benefited from rather than Jabba and the other SD share holders.

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  2. Eric – good to see you getting behind Carver there 🙄

    Stu – I think Carver would do the job for nowt mate, you don’t get much cheaper than that :lol:.

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  3. So David Ginola taking on Blatter 😆 Let’s hope all the wife’s of the male voters are kicking their shins and twisting their arms behind their backs whilst saying ” you know what you have to do don’t you ” .

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  4. Sharpy @ 396

    We’ll have Saylor whose injury prone, Colo who is getting older & Lascelles who is totally untried. I reckon we need another in regardless of Yanga Mbiwa potentially coming back

    Munoz is a player Carr likes, Who has a decent reputation. For a cheap signing in this window or a free in the summer sounds a no brainer

    That would give us: Saylor, Colo, Munoz, Lascelles, Yanga Mbiwa (RB & CB) Dummett (LB & CB) Janmaat, Santon & Haidara. The sort of defensive options we are crying out for at the moment.

    P.S. Raylor & Streete are out of contract in the summer, Good and Satka should be loaned out to gain experience and Williamson should be sold

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  5. Stuart…show me where Ashley has lined his pockets! Typical drama queen comment with zero foundation or proof…

    Big Dave. .Mike asked me to say hi to you on his behalf! He loves all his gullible fans and wants to keep pocketing their cash!

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  6. 50m for stadium advertising 😆 while we are making up numbers why don’t we say it is 90m! :mrgreen:

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  7. Aussie – Show me where I have said Ashley is lining his pockets? im making the point the TV income has gone up 40% but our spending hasn’t. Do the maths…

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  8. CC – trust me mate, you don’t have to convince me. I totally agree and I actually think Munoz would be a really good signing.
    Colo and Willo are 30 plus, Saylor will never be available for a whole season and I’m not sure that all from Satka, Streete and Good will be senior squad players.

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  9. Stuart, how do you know the clubs spending hasn’t gone up? Have you seen the clubs figures or are making more **** up?

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  10. Aussie – I know everything’s upside down for you so no surprise in your posts this morning. We may be right about the club/profits/spending. May be wrong and the bloke just wants a nice clean ship. 😳

    You could compare us to other clubs and check their spending/advertising revenue etc. It seems we can’t now compete with the likes of Swansea and Southampton not to mention the big boys.

    I can’t believe you’re a fan who just wants midtable mediocrity as our main ambition.

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  11. Aussie/Stu – Ashleys approach on running the club clearly splits opinion. I don’t believe he’s been lining his pockets, he’s running the club to be self sufficient – but Aussie, lets be right, even if the spending has gone up, we have needed a CB and CF for a good few seasons now. Even if its gone up, it hasn’t gone up enough. If that’s because it would have taken out of being self sufficient, then the transfer policy is wrong … Or should I say it’s wrong for a club with ambition to be more than just a mid table club – and that’s what we have to remember.
    Aussie – Ashley needs to improve the club commercially – but you acknowledge that already. But more than that, he needs to get rid of SD and Wonga, because big companies who would invest more in the club simply don’t want to be associated with these companies (IMO). Now I know there is zero chance of Ashley ever disassociating himself from SD, and a large reason for his purchase of NUFC was to advertise SD. I do believe that the free advertising is off set by the interest free loan. But the association with the cheap tat has probably been more destructive than we know.
    Do we need to do more to match our ambition – absolutely. Do we need to do more to match Ashleys ambition – absolutely not.

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  12. Sharpy – I certainly have never said he’s lining his pockets. It’s clear that he is repaying the loan to himself and that’s fine, I just don’t like the idea that this is happening at a rate that’s too fast as I believe it’s inpacting on the clubs ability to improve where it’s important.

    Ashley is only interested in filling the stadium as the more in the more see his advertisements and the more we will be on TV and give him maximum exposure. It’s criminal that our commercial revenue has fell since he owned the club. How is the club suppose to improve working like this?

    As for Aussie I have no idea what his view is, other than he seems to back Jabba up at every opportunity. Why I have no idea as I have history on my side and I have been banging this drum for the last Seven years – Jabba is bad news for any football club.

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  13. Georgio…. you have me all wrong.. I would love more ambition/spending and some top people brought into the club…. I just hate comments that are unfounded. Ashley is a prick, call him out for all the **** he is doing but lets not make up **** because it makes him out to be some thieving ******* as well…
    Stuart, keep throwing those make believe figures around mate. ..I’ll wait for the actual numbers before passing judgement. .

    Sharpy. .I have never stated that we don’t need more players .. we have really let our selves down over the past 5 or so season. .

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  14. What’s make believe about the TV figures? Do you not believe Sky and BT when they sign a contract worth a minimum additional £30m per year on previous contracts?

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  15. Stu – I can’t speak for Aussie, but for me, Ashley isn’t the Devil sent to destroy us as some on here believe.
    I think some things he’s tried to do are right and good for the club – but he’s either applied them the wrong way, or as you say, has tried to rush things through too quickly.
    There is lots he is getting wrong, and the invasion of SD in SJP is just ugly.
    But to make us self sufficient isnt a bad thing – just not so quick that we don’t recruit the players needed.
    The transfer policy isn’t too far off being spot on IMO. The players we have brought in so far have been very good, but I think sometimes we need to step outside of it to get the player the team needs now (regardless of age).

    I think Ashley is closer to selling the club, than making the changes needed to improve us, and I’m fine with that. I think he knows that all of the profit he has made from the advertising has probably reached its peak with us – and actually, the bad press he is now generating at NUFC is likely to be detrimental to SD – which is probably why he wants to go to Rangers. In his mind, it would be good publicity if he can become the financial saviour at a club in its knees – whilst his beloved SD gets free advertising in the CL (in the near future you would assume).

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  16. Sharpy17: let me be clear that I don’t want Carver but fear we may end up with him. What does he have to clear up with Charnley after the Southampton match? I thought they said he was in charge until they find a new coach, he isn’t owed any explanations and I haven’t seen anybody banging down the door to poach him for another club. We need a clean break from Pardew.

    All I am saying is that Carver is getting quite good at this spin lark. If he keeps saying he is in the running for the job (which he does) then it gets to sound like he is a viable candidate (which he should not be).

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  17. Aussie so you dont think we could be missing out on atleast £10 mil a year for all the advertisments that SD have got considering almost every square inch of the ground is covered, dug out seats and and all the press conference back drops ?

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  18. Aussie/Stu – I know I posted to both of you but I wasn’t putting words in your mouths (stu -Ashley lining pockets) (Oz – not needing more players). I was just giving my view point 😉

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  19. Are the NUFC books closed for the year? If they are it seems very likely that we broke even on transfers and wages stayed level. In that case, the extra TV revenue would show up as profit since we more than broke even on the last set of results. The money could be used to pay some of Ashley’s loan or banked as a transfer fund, I don’t know. However, it does seem likely that there will be a substantial profit.

    I don’t get why Ashley is being so nice to Pardew. He backed him when he was doing a sh!t job and the the rat f@cks off the first chance he gets (thank heavens). Ashley texts Pardew after his win against Spurs. Maybe he did want rid but didn’t want to pay up the contract as many suspected.

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  20. One BBC reporter said that no matter where you are in the stadium you can see 160 SD adverts in one form or another. Bearing in mind the loan is from him to him that’s a high price.

    Have a strange feeling we’ll win tomorrow. The last one was Chelsea at home. 😉

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  21. Sharpy – The fact we still need to sell to buy over shadows anything good that Ashley had done. Improving on the pitch underpins everything a football club should be and his policy is making it impossible.

    I am tired of hearing how well run financially we are, when we can’t even buy a player without selling our best players first.

    It’s a shambles of a ‘football! Club and we will never come close to achieving sustainable attempt at success working like this. We are a modern day Wimbledon!

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  22. Eric – we have a clean break from Pardew, he’s gone to Palace!.

    Carver is his own man and has his own ideas. Incase you’ve missed it, he is a viable option – whether you like that or not, so how can you accuse him of spin?.

    He may have worked for Pardew, but the bloke could make it any more clear that it’s Sir Bobby who was his influence and inspiration – that’s not saying he could lace the great mans boots, but Carver hasn’t claimed he could.
    He’s said he’s change things from the Pardew set up and done things his own way. I could understand your point if he’d said ‘I’ve changed nothing, Pardew had it bang on, but he hasn’t’ – I just don’t know why you keep having a go it him.
    I understand you don’t want him, but do you want Remi Garde? – if no, then why aren’t you slaughtering him in the same way?.

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  23. Sharpy17: I know next to nothing about Garde so cannot say either way. I do know Carver was Pardew’s right hand man so until he is gone there will not be a clean break from Pardew. The invoking the memory of Robson, I am my own man and I want the job, I am a Geordie from Carver is just cheap spin in an attempt to get a job that he is neither qualified for nor deserves.

    He really proved he is his own man at Leicester didn’t he. The powers that be said to rest 5 players and he played Williamson as a striker.

    I repeat, this should not be a real time job interview. He has had four years to convince and has done a less than mediocre job. Now if he benches Williamson, I might take a second look 🙂

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  24. Sharpy17: please don’t devolve to the Troy tactic of saying “who do you want then” and not addressing the issue that was brought up. I can talk about Carver without having a definite alternative for manager. Saying I don’t want Carver is a separate opinion, I do not have to back it up with who I do want.

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  25. I am also sick of hearing that Carver worked under Bobby Robson so he must be good. Robson was a one off who could inspire a team. Is every coach who worked under Robson during his 40 years of Management qualified for the NUFC job? Carver worked for Robson 8 years ago and has a long track record since.

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  26. Wow! Aussie is getting stuffed today again. Great viewing. 😛

    Psycho
    Well just answer. I warned you that Pardew was an average manager and wanted a top manager to replace him but I knew that wouldn’t happen. I explained we would only get another puppet. Carver was always a possibility whether short or long term. You screamed for him to be sacked nonetheless. He’s gone now. You’ve got what you wanted.

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  27. Troy: i got exactly what I wanted and am very happy about it. I didn’t like Pardew’s personality and the bad football just made it worse. I wish I could have an open mind about Carver but I can’t because I fear a perpetuation of the Pardew era. I don’t know a hell of a lot about some of our other choices but I know I didn’t like Pardew. What is difficult to understand about that?

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  28. Eric – is the question exclusive to Troy like?.
    So your stance is essentially, I don’t give a **** who it is as long as its not Carver?.

    You say you judge him from the last 4yrs but how’s that fair. He was working to Pardews script! – how do you know he agree with it?.

    You say:

    I am also sick of hearing that Carver worked under Bobby Robson so he must be good

    Well I’m sick of hearing that coz he worked with Pardew he must be ****.

    You say he’s not qualified to be head coach – how do you know what qualifications he has?. You say he doesn’t deserve it – maybe not, but if you were in his shoes what would you do?.

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  29. Please let me explain:

    Saying you don’t want Pardew is one thing.

    Saying you don’t want Carver is another thing.

    Discussing possibilities for other managers is another issue.

    They can all be linked, but do not need to be. For example, I can say Pardew is sh!t without saying Garde is good. I don’t think I can put it in simpler terms.

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  30. Sharpy: Troy always puts up the straw man argument and you seem to be following suit.

    We have very recent knowledge that we had scored one from a corner in two years and that the duo of Pardew and Carver had broken almost every record of ineptitude for NUFC in the premier league.

    I am not saying Carver is not tilting for the job. Far from it. I am saying he is trying to spin a bad record into begging for the job.

    As far as coaching badges go. That is an entry qualification and the bad coaches have the same qualifications as the good coaches. I am sure Iain Dowie has the required badges but he is still sh!t.

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  31. Kimtoon, good to see that David Ginola got the Bristolian vote for FIFA…. a bit of eye candy doesn’t hurt eh mate ? Howay the lads and lasses… 😆 😆

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  32. OK then Sharpy: lets say Harry gets sacked after losing to Man U this weekend. Would you come and recruit Carver for QPR? They are a much smaller team than us but I bet they wouldn’t consider Carver. Why then, would we? Familiarity, Geordie, Bobby Robson, Pardew’s deputy. None of these are valid reasons.

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  33. Kim 😯 😯 😯 😯 😳

    Eric you have blamed Carver for the corner routine a fair few times now, but how do you know that that was Carver idea and that it wasnt Pards? Did you watch them at training ❓

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  34. Eric – That’s twice you’ve referred to Troy now in posts to me 😳 🙄

    You again refer to Pardew and Carver as a duo – they weren’t, Carver worked FOR Pardew. He coached the team to Pardews instruction and both he and some of the players have said that he’s changed some things since Pardew has left.

    He wouldn’t be my first choice, but the Rafa Benitez or Frank De Boer may not fancy the toon – or may not be available until the summer.
    At the moment it seems it’s a 2 horse race between Carver and Garde.
    You don’t want Carver and have nothing to say about Garde – and offer no other name.
    I initially opted for Garde, but have changed my mind as he is an unknown average option. Carver knows the squad, knows the area, knows the regime and can provide stability. Hughton did a decent job from no. 2 – why couldn’t Carver? – at least til the end of the season anyway.

    If you don’t want him, then you’re entitled to your opinion and I have no issue with that. I just don’t get your constant bashing of the bloke.

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  35. It’s a complete shambles at Rangers. There’s a common denominator somewhere here…

    Shareholders calling for an EGM to sack the board and other shareholders wanting to increase their holdings and Ashley in the thick of it! How can he concentrate on NUFC while all this is going on? It’s a dereliction of duty on his part.

    What a joke.

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  36. Stu,Spot on mate my thoughts too, every window he is pre-occupied fighting a battle somewhere else and isn’t concentrating on us. Wasn’t it his bloody bonus payout from SD he was tied up with last time?. The Rangers iasco is like looking in he mirror for us Toon fans, I’m starting to think he gets off on all the bad publicity tbh.

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  37. Big Dave @491: Pardew specifically said he took care of the training for the defense. That is probably why we shipped more goals than any other team last year. I assume that meant Carver and Stone were responsible for other areas such as corners and free kicks. The fact that when Carver took over he kept up with the free kick routine to Williamson at the edge of the box must mean he agreed with it or was the architect of it?

    Troysta – no obsession mate, someone has to correct your daft ravings otherwise you might corrupt the more slow witted than even you on here.

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  38. looks like its going **** up for ashley at rangers,they have just called an egm,put money on it that ashleys 2 stooges get voted off the board.lets hope this rushes the fat ****a up in selling.

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  39. Eric so you don’t know if Carver is responsible for the corners 😉 would it not make sense then for Pards to have told him to change the routine as he would have seen that it wasn’t working 😉

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  40. I have a question. Would anyone on here play Williamson tomorrow? Santon is fit again, we can move Dummett to the centre. If Carver plays Williamson and plays that free kick and corner routine do I not have a right to criticise him as Pardew’s lackey no matter what he says?

    And again: if Carver wasn’t here would we recruit him from elsewhere Big Dave?

    Then again, I think we have a decent shot tomorrow, despite Carver. It is a one off though as I think his true sh!tness will show through after an extended period. He has one draw and two losses so far, although I am not judging on three games 🙂

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  41. Sharpy17: even the coaching staff knew we were shyte at corners. That’s why they kept Coloccini on the half way line because they knew we would be hit on the counter when Williamson missed the ball, mis-kicked or nodded it straight up in the air. Every other manager in the league knew it but we kept on doing it – and to make things worse we didn’t even have Coloccini up there to offer more threat. It was like a self fulfilling prophesy perpetuated by Pards and Carvs.

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  42. Sharpy 😉

    Eric I would say you will find something to criticise him about 😀

    ” if Carver wasn’t here would we recruit him from elsewhere Big Dave?

    No but then I wouldn’t have called for Pards head as there was a massive chance that he would have took over or someone very similar.
    Jabba has to have a yes man and most good managers arn’t yes men.

    It seems to me that you ranted and raved to get shot of Pards only for you to start ranting and raving about his replacement 😯

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  43. Big D: Carver is not his replacement yet. My ranting and raving is in the hope that we do not hire Carver. I didn’t like Pardew and I do not like his stooge Carver. How is that inconsistent?

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  44. And Big Dave: Pardew quit, he bailed, he ran away, he took the lucre. Whether you called for Pardew’s head or not doesn’t matter because he f@cked off of his own choosing.

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  45. Eric – I have the utmost respect for Pardew for ‘bailing’ as you call it. Why should he have stayed here and get the grief off the fans and then get completely stitched up by the owner. He did the right thing.

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  46. Eric IMO it doesn’t make a difference how Pards went the point is still the samein that you got your wish, of seeing the back of him, only for you to now start ranting about his replacement. Which weither he is permanent or temp he is still at this moment in time Pards replacement, or am I wrong ?.
    I think you have spent too much time with Chuck 😆

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  47. I don’t get how anybody can defend Pardew. Fatman dumps the manager who just won the Championship with the most points ever to hire an out of work serial loser from the scrapheap – Reding, Southampton, West Ham, Charlton (no Big Dave, I have never been a Hughton fanboy like you accused me of). The planets align and somehow we qualify for Europe. Last game of the season Pards says we are on a different level to Everton who then proceed to ram his words down his throat.

    Steady decline with intermittent short runs of form and excuse after excuse. Next 3 years hit the dizzying heights of 10th and Pards breaks every record for ****ness we have ever had.

    Pards somehow lucks into a formula that wins a few games and then scarpers at the first chance he gets.

    Am I supposed to admire this chancer and regret that the ****er f@cked off or his flunky is now in charge?

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  48. If Charva gets the job, so what ?
    Good luck to him.
    As fans we should get behind him and give him and the team our support from the off.
    If he is out of his depth (oi oi ) then he will soon be found out one way or another.
    Read some good words from him today though. Saying he has changed things from how Percy wanted the Lads to play, and that they have bought in to how he wants to do things.
    The players are behind him.
    Its too early for the sniping.
    Judge him on performances not on pre conceptions.
    Howay the Lads

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  49. We need a good man to run the club at the head coach level but who would want to come to us under those terms? It’s not going to happen. The clown will pretend to look around for the rest of January knowing full well nobody decent will work under those terms and then the board will announce Carver as head coach for the rest of the season.

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  50. Very good post @510 BB mate. I like that approach. I fear for us in the long run with Carver but we have to support the team on the pitch and the head coach as well.

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  51. Big D, BB and G2: believe it or not I will get behind Carver and give him a chance if he is appointed. I just don’t want him to be appointed and am expressing the reasons why.

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  52. Eric Pards was never my choice or even entered my mind as our manager but with Jabba that is the type of man we will get ie an average manager, simply because Jabba has no ambition and just wants a yes man.

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  53. Dear Mr Ashley,

    I really think your the best when it comes to running a professional football club. I would like to put my name forward for the head coach job. I believe I have what it takes to win the premiership with no investment whatsoever. I only ask for a modest salary and G2 to be my assistant because two heads are better than one.

    You can then safely use all your concentration on Ranger’s. I think the Ranger fan’s our lucky to have you.

    Yours sincerely

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  54. If it’s going to come down to some numbnuts friend of Ashley to be head coach then I will support Carver. Otherwise we need someone much better to develop the young talent we have.

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  55. Excellent advice Trigger @517. I hope Mike takes it. I’ll keep a bag packed waiting to hear when we start. 😆

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  56. I have no idea if Carver & Stone were the architects of our dismal corner routines or Pards and in truth I would quite like a complete change in set up including our fitness and medical team . But quite simply it’s not gonna happen, with that in mind I say lets get behind JC and co, at least the blather merchant is gone and hopefully excuse bingo with it. I would love it if Carver can get us going again, though I was bitterly disappointed with our cup team and play that day. He has a lot to prove over the next few games and there are no excuses as it’s not like he’s just come in. I just wish they would announce him now so we can get players in .

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  57. G2 I just hope Mike reads this blog mate. I don’t think I’ll get the job because I’ve called him fat man and Jabba in the past.

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  58. Get Ant and Dec in to be head coach. There Geordies. They love the club. There probably cost a few bob but it’s an improvement on Carver.

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