Match Day Banter – Newcastle v Southampton

To say Southampton have been this seasons surprise package is an understatement! After losing so many good players they have barely faltered at all this season and they currently sit in third place after the first 21 games. They also thumped us 4-0 at home and the return match looks like being another tough game. However, our form at home has been good (W5 D3 L1) so I am expecting our lads to put up a spirited fight and try and come away with all three points.

Mags v Saints
Mags v Saints

Apart from the African Cup absentees we have pretty much our usual players to select from with the added bonus of Santon being fit for duty. Whether he is selected or not is another matter but it would be good to see him get some minutes under his belt.  Here is who we have to choose from

Newcastle United: Alnwick, Krul, Coloccini, Dummett, Good, Haidara, Janmaat, Santon, Streete, Williamson, Anita, Bigirimana, Cabella, Colback, Sissoko, Vuckic, Ameobi, Armstrong, Ferreyra, Gouffran, Perez, Riviere.

Southampton do have some injury concerns. Morgan Schneiderlin (thigh) and Victor Wanyama (hamstring) are out and to be honest it is good to see that Wanyama is not going to play. He does a lot of good work in the middle of the park and breaks up a lot of opposition attacks. He won’t be missed as far as I am concerned. Here is who Southampton have to choose from.

Southampton : K Davis, Forster, Gazzaniga, Bertrand, Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Targett, Cork, S Davis, Isgrove, McQueen, Reed, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Elia, Long, Pelle.

Based on current form you would have to give this one to Southampton. In the last six games they have a very good record (W4 D1 L1) when you compare that to ours (W1 D1 L4) it seems that we will be up against it. But this is the Premier League and on any given day any team can win. So my prediction is a 2-1 victory and the first three points for John Carver.

Howay the Lads!

602 thoughts on “Match Day Banter – Newcastle v Southampton

  1. We got two centre back’s out on loan. We need them here and now. We need to get Shola back until the summer because it’s a little bit of cover and I don’t like the fact we could burn Perez out and ruin his career.

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  2. Club is a joke these days. No manager… letting colo go home instead of trip. Hes the captain for petes sake.

    Shambles..

    We need a CB and striker at a minimum… whats going on?

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  3. Hitman It would have been nice to get someone like Remi Garde in but my thoughts are is Ashley’s playing the waiting game. His more worried about saving a buck. He fail’s to realise that every place we slide down the table we lose a couple of million or maybe he doesn’t want to pay out bonus’s.

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  4. Not sure if I fancy Laudrup, bit temperamental isn’t he, didn’t he have a bust up with Swansea over transfers?

    Trigger, Jesus mate,sounds awful@447, have to say as painful as it is, root canal is better than extraction. I bloody hate having teeth pulled . 👿

    All I can say is after all this faffing about, if we get Garde he better be bloody good. Getting to the stage where I don’t even care anymore, just make a bloody decision already.

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  5. As for Colo, can’t believe that like, is that the way a captain behaves? so much for bonding like.
    I did read last night somewhere that he was staying behind to meet Garde 😕 Is he defo gone to Argentina, anyone know for sure?

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  6. About sums it up…

    If Mike Ashley, the billionaire owner of Newcastle United, wants the best for the football club he bought in 2007, he will sell it. If he wants to control Rangers as much as he seems to judging by his refusal to relinquish his grip on the Ibrox boardroom, he will reduce the asking price too.

    According to the club, which released a statement on its website in September in order to deny a Telegraph Sport claim he was looking for a buyer, Ashley will not consider selling “for any price” until 2016.

    You will be hard pushed to find a single person on Tyneside outside of the Newcastle boardroom or media department who hopes he sticks to that timetable.

    Ashley wanted just £100m to sell following the club’s relegation to the Championship in 2009. Surely a man worth as much as he is, could be willing to accept a similar sort of offer in the summer if it means he can get on with whatever he has planned at Ibrox.

    Sell Newcastle and buy Rangers. It really should be that simple, but there is nobody willing to take Newcastle off his hands for £250m plus, even if he was, contrary to those he employs to run things at St James’ Park in his absence, willing to sell.

    There are people willing to pay less. Ashley, though, seems determined to get all of the money back from the £129m worth of interest-free loans still owed to him, on top of an asking price for the business.

    For once, Ashley could do the decent thing. Not that such pleas are likely to sway a man who has steadfastly refused to take advice or listen to criticism throughout his business career.

    Newcastle need new leadership; a new start. They need to get rid of the man whose presence has sucked the life out of a club that once oozed pride and passion.

    The atmosphere inside St James Park during the team’s 2-1 home defeat to Southampton at the weekend was as flat as unpacked Ikea furniture. This should never be the case. Ashley has crushed the spirit of the clubs supporters. He has drained the club of hope and extinguished dreams.

    At least when former manager Alan Pardew was in place, there was something to stir up emotions, albeit mainly in a negative way.

    Newcastle are a joyless, uninspiring, unambitious football club with some of the worst public relations in the country. There is a deep divide between those who run the club and those who support it from cradle to grave. They are not the only club in the country with that schism tearing at its soul, but they are probably the biggest.

    There might be a new head coach arriving before Newcastle play again at the end of the month, but it is Ashley who must go for proper progress to be made. It is a football club that needs to be freed from his stranglehold.

    A new head coach will provide some much-needed leadership and direction for a rudderless team. The enthusiasm of caretaker manager John Carver for the job, sadly, has been undermined by a run of four games, no wins and three defeats since Pardew abandoned ship to take charge of Crystal Palace.

    Carver no longer looks like a safe pair of hands. He may still be given the job until the end of the season, but it would represent a gamble.

    If the owner is not going to leave, there has to be at least a suggestion of a fresh start. Carver was Pardew’s assistant and he is working with exactly the same coaching team that has been in place for the last four years.

    The supporters know that. They see Carver as part of an old problem, rather than a new hope. It’s a shame. The 52-year-old is a decent, loyal man who loves the club as much as any supporter, but to renovate and modernise you need to get rid of the old furniture.

    Ultimately, though, with Ashley ordering that cup competitions should not be taken seriously, that the Europa League is nothing but a booby prize for domestic success and that every player will be sold if enough of a profit can be made, it does not really matter who the new head coach is.

    They will always be rolling with loaded dice and they will always be playing with a weakened hand. The manager/head coach loses. The house wins and the house in controlled by Ashley. Luke Edwards

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  7. Stuart@435 – don’t be silly mate, we have a squad full of international players and Pardew was definitely holding us back from playing attractive winning football on a regular basis and getting in among the top 6 😛

    God I’m so bloody frustrated at the moment. Get a god damn manager in Ashley.

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  8. Can we at least get a new coach in place and give him some time before we start to say we were better off with Percy 😉

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  9. Did you have to Kim? What a depressing analysis. So depressing it reeks of truth. Luke Edward’s piece is the same. Can we not, just for once, have a bloody ray of optimism. NUFC as a club are just embarrassing at the moment.

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  10. I also see Carver as just a continuation of the Pardew reign.
    We play in straight lines with a mantra of keep your shape. Sammy’s afraid to leave the touchline (just like Obertan, Benny, Jonas etc etc). The way we line up for the kick off is the way we stay for the whole bloody game. Every other team has forwards that make diagonal or square runs into space for the midfield to pass into. Not us. I’m a No 10 so I stay in the No10 position. I’m a winger so I stay on the wing. I’m a CF so I stay in between the 2 CBs. It’s all so predictable. Carver’s had the chance to change things around and he’s blown it. To top it all when he makes substitutes he brings on Willo and the utterly useless Riviere. As Troy might say YCMIU!

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  11. Apparently theres no imminent appointment of a new coach/manager. How hard can it be to find a new coach? In my opinion they’re struggling to find someone with half a brain to take it.

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  12. Stu, You may well be right, or maybe he’s stalling cause he’s selling up 😀 There, a little ray of optimism, don’t we all feel better now .

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  13. Lads and lasses.
    Keep the faith, we are Newcaste United with some of the most passionate and loyal supporters in the world.
    The fans who travel away more than make up for the morgue like atmosphere at SJP.
    We are in a lull at the moment….but be patient.
    The best is don’t give Ashley any of yourt money, end of story.
    That the national media are getting stuck into the toon, fans and Ashley is part of another agenda…they are just loving to rub our noses in it.

    Be patient and keep the faith….. but not letting Ashley get his mitts on your cash is a token but good protest, however small…

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  14. Interestingly, the team have come here to Dubai to avoid wind rain and get some warm weather training. Well I woke up this morning to a thunder storm, heavy rain, lightning, howling wind and pretty cold (well 21C) … First rain in almost a year actually… Lol. They are not getting much of a jolly… Ha ha ha…

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  15. Dubai-toon@472, that’s why Collo never went cos he has that new weather app on his phone and is a “warm-duscher” as we say in German… 🙂

    Have you been down to watch the lads with your toon top on mate ?

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  16. maybe we don’t need any new players or a new coach. Bring on the doom!!
    Once the doom is here we may start getting the proper hump and do something about it..

    Drastic times call for drastic measures an all that.. 👿

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  17. When does due diligence become faffing about? Supposedly, Charnley and Carr are in charge of the appointment. Until recently Charnley was club secretary, a pencil pusher. Now MD it seems his role is administration and contract negotiation – I doubt if he has any say in football matters.

    So that leaves it all in the hands of Graham Carr, our head scout. He tried management for a long while but wasn’t very good at it (check out wikipedia for details). He’s the one that has to quiz candidates on tactics and philosophy. The only positive is he will get to know first hand if the players he chooses will suit a new manager’s style and he will have seen their teams first hand if they are in Europe. Given his own personal failings in the hot seat I think he might be making this choice by default.

    In the end it is all down to Fatty. He tried Wise and Kinnear and now we are left with the chief scout making the most important decision. They have tried their best to give it to Carver and as expected he has been found wanting.

    It seems that there are very few candidates to choose from and that Carr may end up making Hobson’s choice with Remi Garde which seems appropriate for NUFC at this time and given Carr’s almost total inability to do the job he is being asked to make the recruitment decision for.

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  18. AGAM perhaps this January window will be a quiet one anyway ?
    So far we haven’t seen that many big signings in the UK, Bony and De Foe being a couple of moves…though we have seen Podolski, Shakiri and Torres move elsewhere in europe…

    Despite the fact that we really do need strengthening, January is often looked on as the panic buy Transfer Window as such…
    Can see us buying noone and leaving JC in charge until the summer. A real risky move though if you ask me…
    I wonder what it will cost Ashley to buy out JC and Stone’s contracts ? I would imagine Woodman would also be off pdq daaan saaath to his mate Pardew…

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  19. Mark, There will surely be a massive drop off of season ticket renewals if no coach or new players come in by windows close. I can’t believe people will still renew in those circumstances and if they do then imo they have no right to complain when it goes from bad to worse. Act like a mug and you get treated like one.

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  20. I have no problem with persons being promoted from within ones own organisation, in fact it happens all the time. However they need to be good at the end of the day… 🙄

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  21. Kimtoon, if I lived in the toon I can honestly say I wouldn’t go to the matches and give Ashley my money… I’d try to get to a few away games though..

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  22. I am sure there will be a bit of gloating about our predicament – the Southern press and even a few on here now and again. However, we have to remember that Pardew quit, even if most wanted him gone anyway. Whether he was considered good enough or not that did throw the club into turmoil at arguably the most important period of the season. I don’t get why some people seem happy when we are in trouble just to try and score a few I-told-you-so-points.

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  23. @Kim. we’ve been treated like mugs for ages without us making a fuss. makes me sick our club could be doing so much better. How can a bloke with so much clout in the retail word make such a massive ****-up with us.
    Ashley lent SD 40mill for xmas stock.(probably our cash) but we have to sell before we buy. He knows to keep SD the best in the business he has to speculate first.. 👿 We’re probably bankrolling SD and Rangers 😳

    @MM it will be pocket change for Ashley. I’m sure the stadium advertising or the shop income will cover it.. 👿

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  24. tbh I’m not wanting us to be relegated as Mike may stay regardless, there’s no guarantee… but I would welcome some doom if we could stay up.

    We need to get the locals angry.

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  25. Kimtoon: I think we should be made consultants to the clubs Dr.s. We both were incredulous when they said Abeid would be back after 2 weeks from his broken toe. Now after about 8 weeks he is raring to go according to the club’s website.

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  26. Mark: just mentioning some of the gloating in the press at our problems. The journalists genuinely seem to be happy we are in a state. If you read the comments on match reports in The Guardian or Telegraph there are posters on there from Manchester, Kent, Ireland, Hong Kong all having a go saying we get what we deserve for being delusional. I don’t get it. There seems to be so much unwarranted hatred for our club.

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  27. Eric@485, Yeah I said more like 6-8 weeks at the time. I have broken a toe on 3 occasions and it’s silly painful for such a little thing. You can’t put a normal shoe on for over a week let alone a boot and run like. 🙄 And I find if it’s really cold said toes can ache even now years later, very odd.

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  28. @Eric.

    let them hate, it goes back to the KK days when we were the best 😉

    I take no notice of haters outside the Toon, waste of energy mate

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  29. Truth is they are likely jealous of our fan base, how many clubs would still get our following after so many barren years. Can you see Chelsea or the Mancs filling out their stadiums like we do after going that long trophy less. They are the spoiled ones, the truly delusional as they all think they have a god given right to win the league year in year out, the fact they are bank rolled doesn’t enter their pea brains. Take away their sugar daddies and they are no better than us. Look at the state of the Arsenal fans a few weeks back, Wenger was getting dogs abuse, after all he’s done for them too, spoilt brats the lot of em. Rant over.

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  30. Mark: I am not sure if that was against medical advice though as they were saying it was one of the lesser toes that was broken. I think that would be fine for me but he has to kick a ball for a living. Our medical staff do seem to get it wrong quite a lot – thigh strains turn into 4 months out (de Jong) and slight hammys turn into 4 months as well (Aarons). They are either liars or incompetent.

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  31. It will be good to get another look at Abeid. We still really don’t know much about him as he has hardly played for us. Anita has looked OK, he has looked tidy without giving any attacking threat. The problem is we already have a very tidy player in Colback and need a bit more if we are going to break down teams around us and the likes of Hull. Hopefully, Abeid can do that and protect that f@cking fragile central defense (Please don’t let Dummett be injured).

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  32. @MM no mate working unfortunately and not exactly sure where they are training. Actually as I write this we have another thunder and lightning display along with typhoon type winds. Not too dissimilar to the Toon actually…

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  33. I can’t remember ever having a storm like this since I arrived in Dubai over a year and a half ago. My TV system has gone down.. In the middle of watching Everton game…

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  34. Well from what I saw poor young Dummett was running his ass off trying to cover for Collo in the process making himself looking a ass which in turn making the full back looking a ass all in all a bloody mess,good improvement from Caver my ass

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  35. Ice – I was hugely disappointed in Janmaat & Krul to be honest mate. Both would have trained with Elia in the Dutch national squad so should have known what he is about – he ran them both ragged.
    I was happy enough with Carvers team based on his options – but that’s the trouble. We need the CB and CF that we’ve needed for a while now.
    I agree with Stu, that should be the priority.

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  36. There was clearly no intention to bring a CB and CF in this window.
    Maybe there was a back up plan in case we were not mid table, but as it stands, it looks ever more likely that charva goes with what he’s got.
    At any other club this would spell trouble, but not NUFC.
    As fans, we must love it, because we keep filling the library, I mean Stadium, every couple of weeks, regardless.

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  37. SHARPY didn’t say anything about Krul as a blind man could see he should have saved both shots.imo jabba will not buy a c/b his mind will think we can cope without one as hes already spent money on one at Forrest also Krul will go in the summer as we will have a keeper.from Forrest,not good at spending his hard earned cash ffs

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  38. Ice – and it would only be right that the Forest lads get a chance next season mate.
    I know I don’t have to convince you, but many Ashley should be thinking that he has 2 CBs over 30yrs old and one of them he’s paying 80k p/w. Add to that another CB in Saylor that he’s paying around 50k p/w for usually less than half a seasons play thanks to his injuries. Oh and just for good measure he is current paying 80% of a CBs wages would is currently on loan at Roma – that’s why they don’t want to sign him permanently.
    If he focuses on the 1 CB he’s signed, then he’s missing the glaring problem that is slapping him in the face

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  39. Yep Jaanmat should have done better for both goals imo, but our central defenders were pathetic with the high balls in. Krul at fault for the first one I reckon, just use your ****ing foot, it’s inches away from it anyway and the whole of the right side of the pitch was clear, even if it had balooned off his foot he had space to run and clear it.

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  40. By that time it is hoped Charnley will have made progress in Newcastle’s search for a new striker too; particularly if there is a renewed bid from Sven Goran Eriksson to take Papiss Cisse to China.

    Shanghai SIPG have made a lucrative offer to take the Senegalese striker, who is on Africa Cup of Nations duty this month, to the Far East, where he would work under the management of ex-England boss Eriksson.

    Newcastle are not ruling out selling a player who turns 30 in June and only has 18 months remaining on the contract he signed following a move from Freiburg for £9m three years ago. Cisse would also significantly increase his weekly wage by opting for the switch.

    Interestingly there has been interest shown in him from Swansea, although a summer switch has seemed more likely. What could change that, though, is if the Welsh club decide to move on Bafetimbi Gomis before the end of the month.

    Gomis has been a long term target of Newcastle because chief scout Graham Carr followed his progress during his time at St Etienne and Lyon before eventually heading for the Premier League last summer.

    The French international has made noises that he is unsettled and that has led to his name being mentioned again inside the boardroom at St James’ Park.

    Pardew, who went on scouting missions to watch Gomis while he was in charge on Tyneside, has been credited with an interest in taking him to Crystal Palace.

    Palace are willing to gamble on paying substantial wages to land the right men to preserve top-flight status.

    Pardew has taken Newcastle’s performance analyst Ben Stevens with him to London, although suggestions that he is also interested in Cisse are not thought to carry much weight at this stage.

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  41. KIM on Gomis he didn’t want to come before??? I will tell you why, poor little Swansea the club that does not pay better wages than the toon,they don’t need to,Swansea payed Gomis a 8mil signing on fee,did we not wonder why he went there instead of us now we know,mind they are paying it over four years but will have to stump it up if he leaves

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  42. in hindsight, I’m glad we didnt get Gomis. he looks nowt special. Same goes for a lot of French based players who score for fun over there.

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  43. The clubs in a right mess. No leadership, No Manager, No deadwood leaving, No player’s coming in, No victories since Pardew left. I mean surely Kinnears better than nothing ???

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  44. Kinnear would probably be Ashley’s last resort. If the fan’s can’t stand the next manager then Ashley will just chuckle to himself.

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  45. I see there’s been no movement on the manager front or indeed any incoming player front. Sad thing is nobody is expecting anything else. 😥

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  46. I next manager is going to be someone really rank. Here are my favourite’s to get the job. My top 6 are as follows
    1. John Carver
    2. Joe Kinnear
    3. Terry Venebles
    4. Alan Curbishly
    5. Mick Macarthy
    6. Niel Warnock, Alex Mcleish, David O’Leary

    My list contains most london and ireland connections. Cheap, unemployed and want there last payday before retiring. I would take Alan Curbishly out of that lot myself.

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  47. I thought Alan Curbishly did well at Charlton athletic. He never bought anyone really expensive and he managed to keep them in the premiership.

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  48. Stem 😯 Curbishly I don’t think he would be able to do much with us, infact for me he would be a step backwards.
    But then I have said before that he would probably be the type of manager Jabba would go for.

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  49. Big Dave it’s the thing Ashley is best at “going backwards”. Curbishly is very similar to Pardew in some ways. You got to take the rough with the smooth style.

    Troy I bet your excited about who are next manager will be ?

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