Cautious Lee.

Just for those who are yet to read the Lee Charnley interview, here it is below.

      1) Why is it taking so long to make a decision?

Some people won’t believe this but the approach for Alan from Crystal Palace came as a surprise to us. We didn’t expect it. People have asked us whether – because of the way the second part of last season went and the way we started this season – we had a contingency plan in the background. We didn’t. I didn’t have a number of candidates/options in the background, which some clubs do have when a Manager has a difficult period. There was no deal already in place for someone we could bring in. His leaving at this time was unexpected.

In safe hands?
In safe hands?

During the difficult periods our focus was on supporting Alan. I hope people are starting to realise now that when we feel we have the right person in that position, indeed any position, our focus is on supporting them in order that together we can ride through the rough periods that, inevitably, come.

Everything is not always going to be great or perfect but we think that as an organisation, one of our strengths is how we react and the support we give people when things aren’t going particularly well. The majority of which is private and behind the scenes which in my opinion is the way it should be.

People may well say that the position we now find ourselves in isn’t ideal and I accept that to a point, but as I have stated Alan’s departure came as a surprise. I must stress and repeat that we parted with Alan on very good terms.

I would re-iterate the quote I issued at the time of his departure in that we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him.

2) Has there been interest in the job?

We’ve had about 80 applications of people interested in the role. That’s people within football.

Clearly a number of those can be easily discounted but what has been left is a good number of individuals who have different qualities, experience and strengths – some of those are willing and available to come now, others not until the summer.

The important thing to stress here is that there is a process I have been working through the same as I would if I were looking for any other senior member of staff. It’s not a case of someone getting the job because he’s a friend of a friend or he knows someone.

It is a proper structured process which I believe will in the end give us the best individual for the job.  When we put the statement out when Alan left we chose our words very carefully in terms of what we would be looking for as a replacement.

We are looking for a head coach – that will be his role – we’re moving away from the traditional manager, in terms of title and perception.3) Can you explain the role of head coach at Newcastle?

3) Can you explain the role of head coach at Newcastle?

Our overall strategy and structure won’t change – we’re looking for someone who will work within our parameters and will buy into and work with us in terms of what we do and how we operate.

The traditional English manager who would want full control is not what I’m looking for – they don’t fit within our structure or strategy.

This isn’t something new but it’s a refinement of the role Alan Pardew had. It’s a greater clarity for whoever gets the job, in terms of what they do, what their role is and what they can speak to the media about.

That way everyone – players, supporters, media – are clearer. He’s the head coach, not a traditional manager. He doesn’t have the final say on transfers and doesn’t get involved in every aspect of the business.

His job is to coach the players and implement and oversee a philosophy that goes through the first team, the reserves and down through the Academy to improve the players and to ensure we get the best out of them.

4) Will the head coach have some say on transfers?

The new head coach will have to set out to us what his playing style is, what his philosophy is and what he looks for in his team because that then impacts on what we look for in terms of recruitment. It all works together.

The head coach picks the team. We don’t interfere in that. If the relationship works in the right way and everyone is going in the same direction and believes in our strategy and policy then there is no point in us buying a player that the head coach doesn’t want because he doesn’t play him and we don’t get the best out of our investment.

When someone says: ‘Does he have any say on transfers?’ Yes. Does he have the final say? No he doesn’t. There’s a difference there.  We hope it’s a happy marriage.

We want someone who sees the bigger picture because my thinking will always be medium to long-term. When people talk about what we’re going to do in this transfer window, I am looking at the next transfer window and the window after and what impact it will have on that.

Are there better opportunities if we wait three or four months rather than committing now?  It’s trying to find that balance but also an individual in a head coach that trusts us. If we say ‘You aren’t going to get that now but you will in the summer’, it’s someone who is prepared to say ‘OK’ and trusts us to do that.

It’s also someone that for example, if we were to get an offer for a player that is at a value that we want to take, isn’t nervous about getting a replacement. There has to be a trust.  We want to make things better and improve things but sometimes our timelines might not meet.

His requirements might be short-term but our view on some occasions may well be we’d rather wait because we can get better options and better value. Between me and the head coach and Graham, it’s a relationship that will have to develop. He will have to trust and believe in what we do.

5) Is this another long term appointment?

We see this as a long-term decision.

We’ve got a number of options: clearly my preference is to try and find someone to bring in now. However, because it will be a long-term commitment, if I have to wait until the summer for what I believe is the right individual then I would rather wait than actually take someone now who I think isn’t the best fit.

I’m not going to take someone who is free and available now if we have a better option and options by waiting until the end of the season. I know that won’t be an entirely popular point of view but for me that is the most sensible thing to do. It is about the medium to long term and ensuring we get the ‘right one’.

6) How close are you to making a decision?

I hope that by the end of this week I will have a better indication of where we sit.  I’ll know the really, really credible individuals who would be of real interest to us and from there, whether a decision can be made now or whether that decision can wait until the summer.

There’s a wide range of options. There are some people who genuinely can’t move now, whether that be for personal reasons, contractual or a whole host of things – they can’t come now.  There are some that can, whether they are tied to other clubs but have a compensation element involved or are out-of-work.

What I have done so far is go through them, with Graham’s input, and really refine the candidates. I needed to make sure those individuals understand what the role is, understand what is expected of them here, understand the pressures that come with this role and understand what their philosophy is and the culture they would create and develop here.

7) Are you going to appoint a “yes” man to this position?

I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time, but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department.

But do I want someone in who will continually try to change our strategy or put obstacles in our way? Clearly not. They will have to aligned with what we are doing.

8) What types of candidates are Newcastle looking at?

I know that the individual who comes in will be credible and best suited for this role. First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field.

9) What will happen in the January transfer window?

I saw the stuff Gary Lineker tweeted saying we’re hanging back from appointing a head coach so we don’t have to sign anyone which isn’t correct. Are we delaying to get through the January window? Absolutely not.

In all honesty, the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in. That’s partly because of the amount of business we did in the summer but also because January is a difficult market to operate in.

There are very few options whereby a club can achieve the quality required and also get value. There is often a reason as to why a player might be available in January.

We were forced to bring players in a couple of years ago in January because of where we were in the league and some of those transactions we brought forward from the following summer at significant cost.

As a general principle, January’s not an attractive window.  Another important thing to note and something often not mentioned is Premier League teams are only allowed to name 25 players – we’re currently at 25.

10) Will Newcastle sell any players?

I would never, ever rule out selling anyone because the worst thing I could do is over-promise and under-deliver. You will never, ever get me saying never but I would say we’re very difficult sellers.

We make it very difficult for people to get our players. We put them on long-term contracts. We are not easy sellers, despite that perception.  As we sit here today I can’t envisage any player we want to retain leaving.

11) Are you looking at new ways that Newcastle can communicate?

I think we do communicate but we need to find a better way to communicate.

Our view was that Alan was the one who was front and centre and will take all of the questions on all areas of the club. Alan was then left, sometimes, in a difficult position answering questions that he probably wasn’t best suited to answer.

This is an opportunity for us with a new head coach coming in – there’s more clarity about his role and what he does. His role is coaching and that’s what he can talk about.  If that’s the case it’s only right that I then support him in terms of the messaging going out.

If I’m saying ‘Only talk about team selection and the games’ there needs to be another voice. I think the information has been out there, through the fan’s forum and through the statements, but it’s how we get it out there that needs to improve.

12) Will you be taking a more prominent role personally?

I’m not someone who courts the media or has relationships with journalists giving them on or off-the-record information about players or any other elements of club business. I want to go about our or my business quietly and professionally. That’s where I want to be.

I do however accept we need to look at how we communicate and I think if we do that it will certainly help on lots of different levels.

Contrary to popular belief we don’t disregard people’s views – however our intention and focus and what we always aim to do is make decisions that we feel are in the best interests for the football club. They won’t always be popular and won’t always be liked but we make them for what we believe are the right reasons.

13) Has the role of Chief Scout Graham Carr changed?

On the football side we look at it as a triangle. That’s me, the head coach and Graham.

Graham’s role won’t change. In terms of this process he will be heavily involved and will support me with his knowledge, his feedback and his contacts to get some background information on the people we’re speaking to.

This will support other research and feedback we have sought and will seek on our preferred candidates. It’s a joined-up process we’re in. Clearly he will continue to be an important part of what we do in order to move forward on the field and his relationship with the head coach is something that needs to be strong.

14) Is Mike Ashley going to sell Newcastle and buy Rangers FC?

There is nothing to say on this other than to repeat what we said in the statement in September – I’d refer everyone to that.

 

To be honest it is nice to actually hear something from the man himself but it doesn’t really tell us much more than we already know. To me there is not enough communication from the club and it results in hearsay and wild speculation becoming truths. Also many fans have already made their minds up about the regime so no matter what is said publicly, it will be met with derision. It may well be a lose, lose situation regarding the clubs communication with fans. Say nothing and get slated for it, speak often and get slated for it. The club has created this current situation and how they go about building trust and friendly open lines of communication are any ones guess.

What are your thoughts?

654 thoughts on “Cautious Lee.

  1. I could imagine you wanting to be the bully. constantly winding everyone up, whoo-hooing in peoples faces, then running away to your mummy when things got too hot 😆

    ive seen your sort before 😉

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  2. Haha Brett. 😛

    Shitman

    I have never abused Kim. I’ve asked you to show me when someone has pulled me up about it like you suggested. You haven’t as I predicted.

    As I’ve said, it’s a blog and forthright views are allowed. I strongly disagree with. Many things Kim says and vice versa her me.

    She’s got more balls than you to be fair.

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  3. It seems that Carver’s thunder has been stolen,…….we need to have Kimtoon appearing on here soon to clear things up 🙂

    She’s a steady lass though, she’ll tell it like it is 😆

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  4. troll its all there like i says and theres not just me who has brought it up..
    be nice to the lady bloggers.they might know more than you but that doznt give ya the right to insult them.your mammy wouldnt approve.

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  5. Stu
    I gave up my season ticket in 2008 and can honestly say I have never missed it.
    I have read the arguments on the lack of commercial investment in the club mainly due to Ashley giving free advertising to SD all around the ground.
    My question to you Stu is are you happy to be contributing some £500 – £600 towards the £26m Ashley is raking in from gate revenue each season.?
    Do you know where this money is being spent ? We all know that it is not being used to buy new players as new players are only bought from the proceeds from player sales.
    As this £26m is generated from the paying fans then it should only be right that the paying fans be consulted on how this money is spent.
    We all know that this is never to be the case.
    However, if all the paying fans were to cancel season tickets and stop going to the ground ,then it could force Ashley to either agree to the fans demands or sell up asap.
    Start the ball rolling Stu and get your cancellation letter posted.

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  6. wow – thought I had morphed over onto Dr Ed’s blog there for a while.
    It’s bad enough no football, without the **** on here too.

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  7. Actually I am seriously considering packing it in next season. Only because I don’t really see a point in going to the games and supporting the club anymore on match days. That in itself is a sad indictment on Ashley and would also be a protest against him.

    I’ll see what happens in the summer.

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  8. Stuart – If you give up your ST as a form of protest, then be prepared to be gutted, especially when you find out some other tw@t is more than happy to take your place.
    Your seat won’t be empty long and your protest will be worthless.
    That hurts more than not going.

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  9. For the record. … wongas sponsorship deal is reportedly 8m per year and that is for the shirt and stadium naming rights. . So with that in mind I struggle to see how the rest of the signage in the stadium is worth 10m per year… maybe 3 to 4m if I were to guess like everyone else does! 😉

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  10. Nice behavior last night guys… argue away all you like but try to leave the name calling out of it..

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  11. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/lee-charnley-ripping-heart-out-5035737

    Spot on.

    Aussie – You have forgot about the SD logos on the staff seats, on the jackets and coats the players and staff wear, the SD logo’s splattered on the training kit, the training ground and the boards when players and managers are interviewed. I’m sure there’s more but it’s wortg a lot more than £3-4m generally. However I imagjne tk a club like ours who has a Championship club mentality they think it’s only worth 3-4m.

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  12. I’m not one to tell people what to do but I do find it odd you are still a season ticket holder Stu. You clearly get no enjoyment from going and you hate Ashley enough, and you’ve probably felt the same for over six years, so why bother? Like Munich says though its probably easier for me to comment given I live a 7h drive from Newcastle now….

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  13. Dear me. For the sake of the blog. You couldn’t make it up. Aussie says keep the name calling out. 😆

    Wow! The fat lady has finally ****. (Local saying for you couldn’t make it up)

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  14. From the Wikipedia (edited to make a point):

    Bullying is the use of … coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. … Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment … and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Rationalizations for such behavior … include … reputation, lineage … If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.

    Just about sums up how some people on here try to get the blog to focus on their own particular agenda.

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  15. And for the record:

    In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord … by starting arguments or upsetting people by posting inflammatory … messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

    I think Hitman got it right.

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  16. hahah Troy youve been nailed, a bullying Troll.. is there any denying it 🙄 😛

    I think you need that lawyer ‘Mr Loophole’ to get you out of this one 😆

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  17. Wow! I didn’t know I had so many victims. 😯

    It’s quite sad actually that grown men complain they are being targeted by someone on a football blog. 😆

    I’m now being accused of posting just to get an emotional response. 😆

    I’ve got visions of everyone coming off the blog emotional wrecks crying on their wife’s shoulder, accusing nasty Troy of upsetting them. 😆

    Absolutely great trading this morning. YSCMTOU
    (You Seriously Couldn’t Make This One Up) 😛

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  18. Troll.@548 almost correct.

    My wife left years ago because I was a total blubbering wreck of a man, you are everywhere in my house. on my punchbag, dartboard, I even have your face printed on an anti-stress ball 👿

    I listen to the Carpenters on loop just to keep me calm 😥

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  19. newkie@ 541 you have quoted me succinctly there mate, and i am pretty sure that if i lived on the tyne i wouldn, t go to the home games, and most definitly not buy a season ticket.at the same time it would behard, but paying 600 quid for the toon “experience” were you can, t even stand up and raise your voice whilst filling ashleys coffers is crazy if you ask me. if the club changed its tact though i, d be right back in thre, probably like thousands of other supporters.

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  20. ….

    What a cracking day of footy yesterday. almost makes you want to physically hurt ashley for the lack of passion / ambition our club has.

    To see the likes of Boro, Palace, Bradford really pushing for the win makes me sick. I almost thought the FA cup was going out of fashion due to our pathetic stance over the last 5years.

    This is what footballs all about for me, not bank balances & profit, hunger and passion is the pull for me 👿

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  21. @MM £600 plus the expenses, beers, transport etc.

    I dont even enjoy watching a free stream now. The guys that go must be a glutton for punishment, failing marriage or totally mental, but I wouldnt knock them for their support. Its so entrenched up here its like an addiction.

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  22. To be fair I imagine 95% of the 52,000 who turn up every other week dislike Ashley but they still all go, so I would suggest I am in the majority and the minority are the ones who have stopped going. I have been fighting that particular battle for years to be honest about a season ticket and Ashley. On one hand I hate him and in the other I want to support the team. Think that’s fair enough to be honest.

    I always fear giving up my ticket and then something radicle happening and missing out. Wishful thinking I know but I will probably give it one more season and see who we appoint as manager in the summer and see what business we do. If it’s the same as usual, which I think it will be I will give it up.

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  23. If you don’t turn up for the games or buy season tickets you are robbing the CLUB of revenue not Ashley..So feel free to protest but have a think about who you keeping your money from!
    There is no proof that Ashley is taking money from the match day takings..Sure there is the advertising and merchandise but to stay away is not hurting any one other than the club. Well done to Stuart for realising this.. 😉

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  24. And well done to Stuart for thinking things might get better. Nice to see some positivity.

    I always thought he said things would never improve while Ashley was here.

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  25. Wow, busy day yesterday, poor Lew returned from respite on Friday with yet another stinking cold and hacking cough 🙁 lot’s of nose wiping for the foreseeable future. All the while though my ears were burning, turns out with the lack of football on offer from the Toon ,Troy and I became the subject of debate 😯
    Nice to see some on here have my back but in truth I don’t pay too much attention to Troy, only really conversing with him when he challenges me, which I admit is quite a bit. Is he a bully? not so sure, I’ve had the great misfortune to have suffered at the hands of bullies at school, mainly because I was friends with the guys the girls wanted to date 🙄 I didn’t date them just went to footie with them but it was enough to set them off on a concerted effort of intimidation which was awful, much more awful than anything Troy could ever do tbf. Troy is condescending, and I do find his trite responses and pernickety attention to the last detail of your post exhausting at times but relatively harmless in the grand scheme of things . Yes I do think he’s a little sexist, but it’s more common than you’d think and to be honest I don’t give a monkey’s what he thinks of me or my knowledge of football, I have bigger fish to fry .

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  26. robbing ashley of attendance and matchday money will surely give him 2nd thoughts of being here.

    @Aussie. Ashley is robbing the club of hope. we are just floating up **** creek without a paddle 🙂

    It was quite sad to see Blackburns stadium empty yesterday. I use to love going to Blackburn.

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  27. yes, its good to see Stu have hope. I thought that hope was the one thing keeping me off the reality train and got me the nickname ‘butterfly’ 😕

    So now Stu, the inspector of the reality train has the same hopes like most bewildered toon fans.

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  28. Bris, Things can always get better mate, we will have a different owner one day with a whole new set of issues no doubt but right now it feels like the club is suffocating.

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  29. lol Troy. you fastidious, condescending, sexist bullying troll 😆

    good new name that mate

    fastidious, condescending, sexist, bullying troll aka Troy

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  30. Agree about the hope call but that is relative to each individual. I still enjoy watching the lads play and look forward to every game.. I don’t let the off field **** over rule my enjoyment of the on field ****. If it spoils it for you then thats on you..

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  31. @Aussie. The off field antics have a direct impact on the pitch. lack of players, not challenging for cups etc. are they not attached?

    yes, I do still watch every game but don’t really enjoy it. then after 90mins were back to the same ****.

    the toons like a severe migraine, its always there but take a table and for 90mins the migraine is not as painful

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  32. Mark @ 565 I agree with that 😉

    Kim I don’t know if I missed something between you and Troy, but from what I have seen yeah Troy can come off as blunt and to the point,, but IMO I have never seen him bully you ? Why ? Simply because I know you wouldn’t let him get away with it if he did try it. For me I know your female but I have always thought of you as one of the lads that could give anyone a run for there money.

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  33. Mark, It’s like a drug football, once in it’s grip it’s incredibly hard to give up. I stopped going to Bristol City matches years back such was my frustration and at the time work commitments too, but still keep an eye on their progress and I’ll be watching them today in the cup albeit on tv.

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  34. Dave ,cheers, no like I said I’m not sure you can label him a bully tbf, but he can be very condescending to many on here not just me. In the end he has strong views some of which I share as you know, others I disagree with which is fair enough, that’s the point of the blog to exchange views .

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  35. Mark come 10pm on a Saturday or Sunday night I don’t give a **** about the off field, errmm.. ****.. I do get ****in angry at half arsed performances tho… does my head in… glad AP is gone and I can’t wait for a full time coach to be appointed. .

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  36. Dave, re Wise, omg it’s mad, like you said mirrors were invented for a reason. I once knew a guy who lost his hair young and took to wearing a toupee and he was terribly taunted over it, really sad like. Why not get a hair transplant instead? . That is a wig he’s got on isn’t it?, that cannot be his own hair, he looks like Hitler !.

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  37. Kim yeah for sure its a wig, but I could never understand why they wear them as they always look like a ridiculous rug, and 100 times worse than being bald.
    Though I might be being sexist but I can understand women wearing them simply because you rarely see bald women and they normally only wear them after various treatments that cause them to lose their hair

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  38. Dave, Agree, women’s wigs are generally softer around the edges and more realistic to look at. I had an aunt who had alopecia and had to wear one but she had it cut by a wig specialist and you would never know it wasn’t her own hair. I also know quite young girls who have a collection of various coloured wigs that they wear for fun/a change of image. But for some reason a mans wig always looks like a wig .

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  39. Dave, He must be feeling really embarrassed, poor sod, feel a bit sorry for him. Perhaps he’s worried he’ll be called a slap head as well as a ****head 😉

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  40. Big D and Kimtoon, it’s a pity that Wise isn’t still at the toon, because he, Charnley, Steve Stone and Graeme Carr could all take turns wearing the toon syrup on match days !!

    Slapheeds Unite(d) 😆 😆 😆

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  41. Must say I have respect for the Ozzies who can play a straight bat and aren’t affected by the emotional ongoings at the toon.

    It’s a bit like complaining all the time whilst sending off your season ticket renewal slip…600 squids in the back pocket of the man who worships at the temple of the spondoolick.

    Support the team, not the regime. I hope Anita can picture me in his minds eye when I am dancing around my living room / local pub when the toon crack a goal in :-). I suppose I’m also contended in the fact that none of my hard earned wedge is stuck under Ashley’s mattress.

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  42. Troy is toonsy’s toy boy, and is on 10 euro a click…..he said it himself… 😆 He is just an enthusiastic but misunderstood blogger who likes to “provoke” debate…

    If Kimtoon has given him the whitewash treatment then that’ll work for me… as long as she is happy that she isn’t being mistreat, then I’m happy…

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  43. Eminem. .. Vegas and I spend more than most to watch the games. .. foxtel here is at least a 1k per year.. so we both have a serious cash investment in watching the lads play.. **** why not enjoy the lads playing, that’s what it is all about isn’t it?
    Also every time you watch the lads on tv, you are lining Ashleys pockets. 😉

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  44. Also every time you watch the lads on tv, you are lining Ashleys pockets ❓

    does Ashley own Virgin media or is he connected to Firstrowsports?

    scraping the barrel here mate 😆

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  45. Agree Aussie, I still get excited for every match, can’t really help it. I also feel our football is of w muchness with most teams at our level. What does piss me off is that every now and then we have a good point where we look like we can push on but Ashley doesn’t bother, he’s reactionary, like everyone said about Pardew, and its hardly inspiring.

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  46. Mark….no but all the main stations pay money so they can broadcast the games… if you want to sit on your laptop and view them for “free” then you are a true rebel… just make sure you turn away from the tv when you are next in a pub on game day!

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  47. I do mate. 90% of the games I watch are online. Even some of the pubs play the free streams due to the prices Sky demand for screening.

    agree Newkie. I have said many times Ashley could really turn things around here but refuses the final hurdle.

    I honestly think he’s looking at leaving asap

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  48. Mark just to clarify. .I did say watch the lads play on tv… not crusty porn infect lap tops like you have! 😆

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  49. I’ve been writing on here since day one and .org & Eds before it, Troy has been a constant prescence

    I can’t say I respond to or agree with many of his posts and the silly nicknames Crapper, Tinpoops etc. Are a bit daft but we’ve had worse on here who were genuinely abusive rather than slightly sarky & patronising

    More of a **** than a troll imho…

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  50. I have to admit that yesterday was a brilliant day for the underdog’s. Bradford beating Chelsea, Middlesbrough beating City, Cambridge getting a replay against united, Palace beating Southampton and Spurs getting knocked out by Leicester. A wonderful cup competition despite what Ashley thinks of it.

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  51. AMF@590…there you again getting on your high horse, you really are out of order. If Mark wants to watch the lads play on a crusty porn infected lap top then that’s up to him. 😉

    I also watch my games on the internet at Firstsport or similar…. why don’t you do the same ?

    Paying 600 squids for a season ticket, then whingeing about it is a difficult call although at the same time somewhat bizarre ?

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  52. Big screen is the way to go..and the lounge is way too comfy 🙂
    Agree..Stuart is a plastic protester! 😆

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  53. Aussie, are you aware that British tv is not allowed to broadcast live football games that have a Saturday kick off time of 3pm ?
    The only ways to watch these games live is to be in the ground , watch it in a pub or club screening it from a foreign tv station or watching it on a stuttering internet stream.

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  54. Ranger’s fan’s should consider themselves lucky to have a nice caring wealthy billionaie like Mike Ashley interested in them.

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  55. Didn’t know that sidekick! Don’t begrudge people for watching it online.. each to their own!

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  56. Murdoch is quite possibly a bigger **** than Ashley, he certainly won’t get my money 😉 and he’s an Aussie to boot like, sensing a trend here..

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