Clipping the wings of the golden goose

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You can bet your life there are a few football club owners with very twitchy sphincter muscles at the moment. Such are the riches on offer with the new TV deal no one wants to miss out; staying in the premier league means getting your hands on the golden goose of football. The new deal, some Β£5.1 bn, is truely eyewatering even after you allow for 5 percent going to grassroots football and community projects and charities, it still leaves Β£4.9bn going to Premier league clubs. I personally feel the 5 percent to grass roots is not enough, the whole package needs to be shared out much more fairly throughout the leagues. We have gotten to the stage now where this deal makes the champions league money look like small fry and as for the Europa league, forget it. At the end of the day few clubs below the top 6 in the premier league will have much appetite for a run in Europe if it risks their Premier league status and the money on offer. No, they’ll be content with a good cup run to keep the natives happy and the ultimate aim of safety. This is a scenerio we as Newcastle fans are all too familiar with, with the exception of the good cup run. It’s starting to feel like the perfect storm has arrived with different elements all coming together to finally kill off the game as we know it. If it wasn’t before then it certainly is more business than football now, as we have seen with our own clubs owner. I predict more and more that Ashley’s entering the world of football because, for the first time, there is real money to be made if you do it right. My big concern though is that he won’t utilise the new TV money to fund a couple of quality signings, instead keeping to our ‘wipe our own nose’ philosophy that he has in place. All very admirable but what happens when the so called lesser clubs start throwing their new financial weight around buying up quality players and leap frogging us in the league in the process? I feel he really needs to loosen the purse strings before we start to drift away, and a good start would be using some of our windfall to land a quality coach. A good coach, two or three quality signings and some of our up and coming youngsters should see us look much healthier next season. I really don’t see the point in clipping the wings of the golden goose, do you?

By KIMTOON

287 thoughts on “Clipping the wings of the golden goose

  1. Has Santon mastered playing centre half in the last fortnight?

    I’m sure Janmaat & Haidara will be fine and Raylor/Anita have enough experience to slot in if needed from the bench.

    CB is still the issue and Santon being here or not doesn’t affect that

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  2. CC – I would rather have a defender in defence than a midfielder. Your patchwork attitude perfectly epitomises Ashley’s NUFC. Hope you get what you deserve in the end.

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  3. You are aware Santon is a converted winger ?

    What do i deserve exactly, The relegation you sit and pray for every year without fail πŸ™„

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  4. Gordon – if Ashley was looking to sell the club why bring JFK or Shearer in then?, why not just promote from within – as he eventually did anyway with Hughton.
    You may well be right, JFK may have kept us up – but do you believe he was the best appointment?
    As for him as DoF – what’s difficult to say? – was he the best possible choice?, what prior experience did he have? And how many signings did he make?. I’m afraid comparing him to Wise simply strengthens my point as he was another piss poor Ashley appointment.

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  5. Sharpy

    I have been there before about Rafa. He’s way above our league presently. He’s far too classy for us.

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  6. Troy – I’m not being naive mate, I work with a kid who has a similar opinion of Ashley – though he does hold Ashley accountable for something’s – unlike Gordo πŸ˜†

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  7. Kim

    I appreciate what you say at 53 but any club including the toon have the same idiots in their ranks. It takes drink, circumstances and cameras. There but for the grace of God goes any football club fan base.

    I was listening to talksport yesterday and debates about it. The pundits were saying they aren’t football fans.

    That’s wrong imo. They are are football fans but racists. You can have both. Just because racists follow football clubs it doesn’t mean they are racists who use football to get their message across. I was frustrated listening to their naivety.

    Yes some racists only go to away games to fight and get their racist message across but many love football as well.

    NUFC have exactly the same idiots amongst their ranks and cameras one day will catch them.

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  8. We all support you in your effort to make us the most boring club in football Mike Ashley!!! We love boring football. We love huge profit margins. That’s why we all became Newcastle United supporters!

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  9. More comments from Lee Charmless:
    β€œI love our club the way it’s set up now. No big egos. No fluffy ponces. Just a big group of mainly modestly talented lads who are looking for a way out of the club.” Beautiful. Thanks for that Lee!.

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  10. More from Lee Charmless:
    “We are looking for at least 10M for Colo. He is just reaching his peak now. And he is too expensive a wage for us. We need a much cheaper alternative. I am personally leading the next scouting mission to wine country in France to look for the next cheap CB for us!” That’s thrilling Lee.

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  11. Do we have any defenders left? Williamson doesn’t count. I suppose we could always go with a 3-5-2 formation but I am not sure if Parver has heard of that – a blessing really as Mikey W might then have to control the ball and not just point at other players to pass to, and we all know how that would end up.

    It is a bit like the goalkeeper situation.

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  12. eric sykes @96, we currently have 4 grown up defenders fit enough to see out the season. we also have a whole host of starlets (unquote evening chronicle), who following an undeserved defeat to Morpeth in midweek are ready to step up to the breach πŸ™„

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  13. Santon must be gutted leaving our physio table for constant games with inter 😯 its atmosphere’s like this he’ll be pining for toon reserve run-outs v Northumberland πŸ˜†

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  14. Troy so you don’t think Kinnear was a better D.O.F than Wise ? He never made the manager resign or buy players that the manager didn’t want! I know Cabaye left the club but he had a 6 million pound release clause in the summer so an extra 13 million pounds is good business. He also wanted champions league football and refused to play against Manchester City but we still finished in the top 10 and had a good season. Pardew head butting a player probably cost us 9th or 8th place but that wasn’t Ashley’s fault was it ? We will be in europe again we just have to be patient. Are next manager could take us to the next level and that’s Lee’s decision but that’s surely something positive instead of being all depressed we are going to get relegated etc.

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  15. Gordon Bennett said:

    “Are next manager could take us to the next level and that’s Lee’s decision”

    What credentials does Lee Charnley have to choose the next manager? He is a glorified accountant.

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  16. And Gordon, who says we are getting relegated?

    The 5th bottom club have 23 points from 25 games at a clip of 0.92 per game. Over 38 games that means 35 points and there are 4 below them.

    Even Parver would have to fail at an epic level to **** this one up and have us relegated. Did I mention he is ugly and unqualified, just like “are” Lee?

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  17. At a club where Steven (made of glass ((patent pending)) Taylor is out for the season, when is it a good idea to loan out defenders? If M’Biwa and Santon are good enough for Roma and Inter they may be OK for us when Williamson is?

    But we can always trust in Ryan Taylor as an auxiliary defender. He was only out for 2 years with two different knee injuries and then capitulated again after a game and a half. Mr. Reliable, but a good influence in the dressing room !!!

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  18. It is quite possible that Charnley knows his stuff but we haven’t been informed of any of his credentials. He seems to be the “operations man” and negotiates with Agents over contracts. I don’t see how that gives him an ability to select a manager? So far he has gone status quo and selected “meet the new boss, same as the old boss” – the easy and cheap option.

    Like most on here say, we will probably end up with Carver who is a journeyman at best. The only decent thing he has on his CV is as coach under Robson, and in my opinionated opinion that was more about Robson’s genius than Carver’s ability. Everywhere else he has been mediocre at best.

    So, the two top men at NUFC are a glorified accountant and a journeyman. Our centre half is Mike ****ing Williamson and his backup is either invisible, loaned out to Rangers, injured or playing in the Northern League if that still exists. I think we have a right to complain.

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  19. Now here is my explanation for the above rant. Charnley seems supremely unqualified for anything other than a non-footbal admin role. I like the fact that Carver seems to be so happy to have the NUFC head coach job but I also hate the fact that he is so happy. Would Brian Clough feel that way? Would Bobby Robson? No, they were confident in their own ability and Carver just feels lucky to get the chance. And lucky is what he is, not talented or worthy… LUCKY. And ugly.

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  20. And another thing … they were playing Dummett as left back when he was obviously a better choice as centre half than Mike (don’t pass to me because I am pointing to someone else or else I will hoof it) Williamson. How can you really say we had a full squad or even cover when you play Williamson? Tell me that you ugly ****.

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  21. well after reading the latest shenanigans coming out of the Toon, it does indeed look like Cardew will be our next manager πŸ™„

    I doubt we’ll announce it properly until next seasons tickets have been rolled out..

    something to look forward too next year πŸ˜†

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  22. Gashley – That’s one reason why I cancelled my season ticket. Carver was always getting the job, never in doubt. The form book shows that. Ashley wamts cheap and easy, that’s Carver!

    Carvers latest bull **** is trying to defend the club’s decision not to add a defender in January. He reckons we had a near full strength squad two weeks ago… If he thinks a full strength squad consist of only 4 defenders than relegation will be a certainty under his stewardship.

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  23. Gordon – JFK never bought any players!!. Your comparing him with Wise who was another poor appointment by Ashley, but dodge the question – was he the best possible candidate for the job?.
    How did Pardews head butt cost us places?, I don’t remember us being deducted points for that incident?!.

    I’m with Sykes on your last point. What previous experience does Charnley or Carr have when it comes to hiring managers or head coaches. But again, the restrictions the Ashley has put on the role will again mean that we rule out the best possible candidates

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  24. Sharpy – The only criteria for the new coach is either he will be currently out of work or already at the club. All roads lead to Carver.

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  25. Stu – it’s certainly looking that way. The only possible alternative is if Derby doesn’t get promoted Steve Mc may think NUFC is his chance to manage in the PL again.
    With these restrictions I’d be amazed if Rafa or FDB would fancy it.

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  26. 92% of fans don’t.want Carver so he’s bang on for the job as jabba loves to stick it up the fans he’s a sick swine

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  27. sharpy17, gordon@102 is probably referring to the fact that the toon failed to pick up enough points during pardews touchline ban after the “heed incident” at hull. with the blather merchant in the technical area insted of safe-hands jc we could have picked up the necessary points for an 8-9th place finish. an interesting point actually….

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  28. icedog@117, you have it right there mate.

    anyone renewing a season ticket in these circumstances must be off their heeds…..

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  29. Munich – I don’t recall us doing all that better when Pardew was there to be honest. Besides, JC couldn’t have done all that bad, he got the head coach job off the back of it πŸ˜†

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  30. sharpy17, don’t start being all sarcastic on me now mate ;-).
    pardew would have pulled in more points thans safe hands jc during the “heed affair”….. we probably would have finished 6th if the truth be known πŸ˜†

    still didn’t prevent pardew walking out on us though. obviously the time spent in the goldfish bowl caught up with him in the end

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  31. It is really hard to like the way these idiots are doing business. We have an obvious need at centre half as one of them wanted to be back in Argentina and the other one is a donkey, and that is being unkind to donkeys. Our cover is Lubimor Satka and Curtis Good (who he?), when fit.

    They didn’t learn from the fact that their backup goalkeeper, Jak Alnwick, seems to have never seen a football before and flounces around like a member of One Direction.

    We will stay up though.

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  32. eric, our future is currently treading water on the bench in the championship at forest.
    our future centre half and goalie will jet in next season to propel us, after a bit of tinkering in the transfer market, into a top ten side, and a fleeting visit to an FA Cup quarter final.

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  33. I googled Ludimor Satka and it turns out he is a 17 year old part-time Latvian bricklayer and part-time NUFC academy lurkabout. Curtis Good is one of those them there Aussies who doesn’t ever play any football because he is always injured.

    That leaves, err… Mike Williamson.

    It reminds me of Blackadder – I have a cunning plan!

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  34. our average age will be below 25 next season, a result of our fantastic academy and stealth in the transfer market. top 8 is a formality, abeid will be player of the year

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  35. Munich – I’m not being sarcastic mate. We only managed 17 points over the 2nd half of last season – and Carver picked up 3 of those during the ban. So based on the fact Pards only managed 14 points – why would we assume he would have done so much better?!
    It’s possible coz we beat Villa before a good win against Hull, so it may have been a mini Pardew run in the making – but no guarantees.

    I don’t think the fish bowl got the better of him personally. I think his ‘dream job’ came along and he seized the chance to go there. I don’t think he would have left if it had been WBA or a team like that. I think he had an agreement with Ashley that if Palace or England (no joke) came asking, then he’d let him leave, providing they stumped up the compo

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  36. eric, i saw Satka in gelsenkirchen, and he looked a canny player. Good could also ba canny addition, once he gets back on track, though he does seem to have been dogged by injury the last couple of years. he’s a left footed centre half thouh, so would theoretically be in direct competition to Dummet who has that position stitched up. A squad player as back up perhaps, happy to be on the perifery of a big club like nufc ?

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  37. lets get the points on board and get this disastrous season to an end so we can enjoy a football free summer. funny, I have said that for the last couple of seasons, it really isn’t much fun any more following the toon. thank goodness we have perez, sissoko and cabella to pin our hopes on…players who have the potential to get us out of our seats

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  38. georgio@130 what great tactic to first lure players to the club, then get them playing out of there skins to get noticed and get away. pity really, though i suppose typical of a small minded club devoid of ambition.

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  39. MM, Satko could be the next Franz Beckenbauer for all I know. But what I do know is that he is totally inexperienced in the premier league, that Good is always injured, and our current first choice is Mike (****ing) Williamson.

    You would think that we might not have wanted to loan out Santon or M’Biwa and might have considered buying a centre half if the Management were not incompetent/had a spine/were just happy to be in a job?

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  40. icedog@131 i’ll be down the pub in my shorts and flip flops sporting my colours. got nowt lose mate, so as long as we dont get mullered before he eyes of the nation i’ll be happy. we know already that sky and the media will be fawning all over city…
    safe hands jc will be shooting his coacoa toughing it out with pellegrini, he’s only just recovered from that cuddle and wink from Mourinho…

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  41. Next thing you know we will be putting Vernon Anita at centre half because of his ability to leap like a salmon. Better than Williamson I suppose, as even though he is 6-4, his vertical leap maximum is also 6-4.

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  42. eric sykes@130, the toon saw the chance to get 2 highly paid squad players off there books, and took it.
    i would question whether mbiwa’s heart was really in it, and whether he bohght ino the toon? his old manager spent months telling him he was going to the wrong club, maybe that got into his head ?
    i didn’ rate mbiwa. leaving the toon with inadequate cover though is suicidal.

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  43. MM: on your hols? Munich cant be that warm. Chicago was minus 20 and minus 37 with wind chill yesterday night.

    I am not venturing out at all and the dog got online at Amazon and bought himself some new sheepskin lined boots .

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  44. Eric – for me MYM didn’t play well for us mate, for whatever reason and he was 4th choice. Santon was a right footed LB who slipped down to 3rd choice. The only issues I had with them leaving was that 1. Both were done on the last days of the transfer windows and weren’t replaced. 2. When MYM went on loan, we continued to pay 80% of his wages.

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  45. MM: I am not saying either Santon or MBiwa are any good. I don’t know as Santon was played as a left footed right back and MBiwa was played as a right back rather than centre half. I have very little evidence to judge either but know they might be valuable now as our alternative is nobody-at-all.

    You could say hindsight is a wonderful thing, but this was easy in foresight.

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  46. eric, yeah slumming it on hols mate πŸ™‚
    munich winters are too cold and grey for me at times, but what you and your muttley are going through in chicago is way out of order imo mate !

    i recall you mentioned you had spent some time in munich, agree 100% its a great place to live. the german language isn’too difficult though mate, though picking up a third foreign language is proving tedious πŸ™‚

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  47. Sharpy: as you can see, I partially agree with you in that we dont know much about how good or bad these players are. I wouldn’t trust Carvs or Pards to judge a leek show though so I will reserve judgement. One is at Roma and the other Inter so they might not be that bad? It is not like they were transferred to Gateshead like Campbell πŸ™‚

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  48. eric@139, howay lad, get up to speed. santon was played as a right footed left back πŸ™„ we don’t need those head strong types of individuals at nufc upsetting the apple cart. i reckon mbiwa and santon had attitude issues that caused ashley to move them on.

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  49. Mbiwa apparantly couldnt head a ball according to the 2012 manager of the season and so was needlessly bundled out the back door. The usual conflict between the 80s throwback manager and scout (sporting director in all but name) who favours continenal style players and passing from the back.

    Perch was also sold at a loss needlessly, two options at centre half we could use right about now

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  50. Eric – I’m not saying they are bad players, both have gone to bigger clubs (in a weaker league). But I don’t think either were particularly good in a black & white top from what I saw of them – that’s just my opinion though.
    From what I’ve seen of Satka he looks very composed and has good positional awareness. Allowing MYM to leave allows players like Satka to develop through, but our senior CBs are the problem for me. Willo isn’t good enough and Colo hasn’t been in great form. I’d have rather seen us sign a better CB, but since we haven’t, we may as well use the rest of this season to test the likes of Satka.

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  51. CC – MYM may get the time on the ball to play it about in France & Italy, but the forwards press the ball faster and harder in the PL. Most times I saw MYM with the ball at his feet he looked like a rabbit in the highlights. He wasn’t all that comfortable on the ball from what I saw, and actually looked more comfortable at full back than he did at CB for us.

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  52. Sharpy: I dont think any tide has turned at all on here, everyone can see:

    1. We need central defender, that is a given.

    2. We loaned out players because Pardew had fallen out with them or for financial reasons.

    3. Carver is useless and ugly and the more press conferences he does the more he sounds like a Geordie Pardew.

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  53. stuart79@145, which tide is turning mate? i have always been anti ashley, latterly 100% anti pardew, and pretty much from day 1 anti carver. πŸ˜‰

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