Is our transfer policy too rigid?

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Rigid Transfer Policy ?
Rigid Transfer Policy ?

It may be some hundred and three days away, but on the 8th of June 2015 our summer transfer window re-opens. I don’t know about you but I’m already thinking about who and what we need to try and progress from our present standing. While I think it’s fair to say we will pretty much all agree on what’s required, the bigger question is what does our owner think we need? My guess is he’ll spend as little as possible to keep our current status in the Premier League. For me, the prudent, cautious approach, though I know some will say **** right stingy, is better than blowing big bucks on aging and possibly ‘had their day’ players. That said there surely has to be room for two, maybe three, quality experienced players who may well be 26 and over and I do feel we are far too rigid in our transfer policy. For every cracking little player like Ayoze Perez you will most likely get 3 or 4 mediocre duds. I also think Graham Carr being hailed a scouting genius is a bit much too, yes he’s un earthed a few gems but also a couple of duds as well. We have also been linked to many players on the well built up dossier of Grahams only to find ourselves outbid by other clubs due to our owner not wanting to be part of a bidding war. What then is the point of Carr putting in so much leg work if in the end we won’t pay the asking price. Again this just serves to show our rigidity in both age and price restrictions and this must be detrimental to us ever building a team of quality good enough to truely compete on any level. It’s also policy to wipe our own noses and we obviously sell to buy now and though that makes some financial sense it only works if you replace the quality you lost straight away; leaving it until the next window just leaves you in a perilous position.I would like to see us break the constraints a little and bring in a couple of quality guys alongside youth, what do you think?

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  1. Troy- Id keep Sissojo but just expect to see him leave, hes important but still can be replaced in my opinion. For new manager I prefer Bilic and Pulis to de Boer. Id take McClaren too, in France I rate more Galtier than Garde

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  2. Stu@224 Dear oh dear, what’s that saying again, Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we set out to deceive. 😳

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  3. On FDB, he ruled himself out yonks ago when he said he Newcastle weren’t a club he aspired to manage . I also think there is a big difference in people wanting him and yet knowing he’ll never come here. Ask someone who they’d like and he would be up there, ask them who we’ll get and that’s a different matter altogether. I said when we were first linked it would never happen, can’t believe anyone thought it would tbh. He has much bigger fish to fry.

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  4. Kimtoon@228, as ever the voice of reason…tell it like it is mate. That’s exactly what happened with De Boer, perhaps bloggers on here thought it could be cool if he came, but that is different than thinking it was a sure thing. Some people just don’t get it… 😆
    De Boer was talking himself into a nice pay rise at Ajax, and obviously it worked… We all know the toon job is Carver’s job anyway…unless he gets the club relegated that is.

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  5. MM,I been called many things but never the voice of reason 😆 My family would choke on their hobnobs reading that. 😀

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  6. I think we all know that Carver will get the job, MM, but are holding on to the hope that there must be a level – 14th, 16th, just missing relegation? – that would make them look elsewhere. Not getting carried away over a few games, but a) the internal appointment like this nearly hardly ever works and b) if I had to pick one word to describe the difference in the team post-pardww, it is ‘naive’.

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  7. If John Carver get’s the job we will be relegated next season that’s a fact. Our goalkeeper’s as a whole isn’t good enough. Our central defence is a nightmare. Are midfield isn’t good enough to take the pressure off our defence or good at creating chances. Our striker’s are average at best. It will serve Ashley right if we do go down.

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  11. Nobody on here has said anything about Tiote. He had a knee operation in Dubai or somewhere and Carver says he knows little about it and that it is hard to get in touch with him.

    Yeah right, these players are on their mobiles 24/7

    He has about 8 “representatives”, 2 wives and a mistress, someone must be in touch.

    Where do they send his pay cheque to? I’m sure if they delayed that he would be on the phone sharpish.

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  12. Here is the quote from Parver about Tiote. Does this seem like a Manager or Club who have a clue what they are doing?

    “He had the operation on Sunday. Communication is not great at the minute, so we are trying to get more and more, but I think he’ll stay there for a while,” he said.

    “He’s in Qatar and I think he’s there because the surgeon who did his operation from Belgium on his thigh when he was at FC Twente, he’s the guy who did the operation, so he is going to stay out there for a little bit of recovery time and then come back.”

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  13. So Tiote needs a knee operation, let him pick his own surgeon. Does that make any sense? Isn’t he contracted to NUFC and don’t we have our own list of preferred surgeons. I know Seim de Jong was sent to London to have an operation. There is also that bloke from Colorado who did Shearers. Why is Tiote in Qatar?

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  14. Sorry if I am seeing conspiracies where there is none but everytime one of our players gets a knock the next thing you know they are out for the season.

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  15. I think I just sussed that he has a deal already in place (I’m a bit slow) so they let him do what he wants. I am sure there is a deal struck with Russians or Qataries so he is choosing his surgeon and rehab as NUFC know they will never see him again. I saw the asking price is 12 million, in which case most would take that in a heartbeat.

    It is a cover up nonetheless and pretty much in line with how the club treat their supporters in every other aspect.

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  17. Eric, I give up hoping the club will keep the fans in the loop long ago mate. Even when they do converse with us it’s a pack of BS most the time. 🙄

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  18. Eric nowt surprises me about our club, it was the same with Benny, Colo etc it seems the players go where ever they want to get treated then recuperate.

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  19. meant to add that I touched on it a few times with Benny when he was back in France, that he should have been back here with his team mates etc

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  20. Our transfert policy is rigid, of course, building a ligue1/Eredivisie wont give us more than mediocrity, and for every Cabaye, Ben Arfa or Sissoko there is a Gouffran Riviere or Yanga. We need some English/British lads to make it a real team with hopefully new leaders (Dummett Lascelles Colback Abeid Sammy) and new spirit. In terms of team spirit we have to create a similar team cohesion than the one when we got back to BPL. In fact we have also to take a closer look to German players, even if we have to scout in 2nd Division like we did for Ayoze. The French player aint a reference since the days of Zidane Henry Vieira etc.

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  21. In fact our transfert window has been wasted by Riviere de Jong and Cabella signings. Riviere is not good enought, de Jong not fit enough, and Cabella too expensive for behing nothing special

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  22. What I would like to know is what people like the SENIOR football correspondent at The Chronicle are doing. Lee Ryder asks today where is Rolando Aarons? Shouldn’t he fucking well know and he takes the club at their word (BS) about Tiote and does no further digging. If he is a journalist, why doesn’t he do more than repeat the party line? All he said about Tiote is that he may have played his last game for NUFC.

    No, Lee and the gang would rather put up puff pieces, 5 things to know about the weekend, or polls about who the new manager should be. They do not do any actual journalism.

    Even John Gibson, who has nothing to lose, doesn’t even write anything interesting. He pretends he is questioning what is going on at SJP but only scratches the surface in his op-eds about NUFC. Perhaps he is under orders from above not to rile the Fat Man?

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  23. And Ive said for years that Graham Carr somehow get blinded praise but has to shoulder the blame too as he brought lot of *****/overrated/UnfitforPL signings.

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  24. Cholo: so I take it you don’t have the “In Carr We Trust” t-shirt that is advertised on Ed Harrison’s blog?

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  25. I remember when I was young that Gibbo used to suck Pirate (Westwood) **** but that was when he had a career to look forward to. Now he is a tobacco stained old goat and is still taking the Chronicle lucre. He should be doing a blog or be a curmudgeonly old bastad on twitter. He advertised “The Gibbo Files” on the Chron and took his last 30 pieces if silver, now get a backbone and tell us really what you think now.

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  26. The problem with our club and Carr is that we don’t really know if Carr is under pressure to pick up basement bargains or damaged goods, maybe if he had a free reign to source quality players it might be different ? but I do agree that up to now he has got a few top quality players but most have been less than decent.

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  27. I had to get in my angst about Tiote, Aarons and the Chronicle tonight because if we win tomorrow it might be back to unicorns, rainbows and candyfloss – from me anyway.

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  28. Watch that candy floss Eric mate. Bad for your teeth. Mike will rot your soul and sugar will rot your teeth.

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  29. I think Tiote has mailed it in a has a transfer lined up.

    As for Aarons he tweeted out a couple weeks ago that they are being extra cautious in bringing him back since he injured the same hammy twice already

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  30. Did anyone else see that item about Black Plague being brought to Europe by giant Asian gerbils? I could just see Mike Ashley riding into the Toon on a giant Asian gerbil.

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  31. Is it possible to recover from an attack of Ashleyitis? We’re in the 8th year now. I feel very weak. Drained of energy. My enthusiasm for footy has been sucked out of me by the giant fat parasite who owns us. How much longer can we survive?

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  33. MDS Aarons might get in trouble for that 😉 know the way the club don’t like the players talking. And I see Cabella snap chatted that he wouldn’t be playing tomorrow so he could be in trouble too.

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  34. Do you think if Ashley takes in enough cash he’ll actually explode like that poor sod in Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life? That would certainly cheer me up no end.

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  37. MDS: thanks for the update on Aarons. Ryder wrote a piece on him today asking where he was. It was the same with SDJ, he tweeted that he had had an operation 6 weeks after it had happened with not a dickie-bird said by the club.

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  38. With the amount of TV money coming in and a ground that holds over 50,000 and at least some commercial revenue what should we be spending on incoming players? I think about 25M per year (both windows). What do we spend right now? It’s not zero if you average it out over a few years but it is a quite small amount. Is it 10M pounds or so? I can’t be bothered trying to calculate. Cabella cost us 12M and Riviere was 6 M last summer but then we actually turned a profit in January. We spend 19M on incoming to get 5 players in the previous January window but then spent almost nothing that summer. I’m guessing our outlay on players is about 10M a year. Not nearly enough when you consider our lack of decent CB’s and experienced strikers alone.

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  39. I’d love to see another financial analysis of our club by the Swiss Rambler (was that his name?). I’m just interested in finding out how much profit we are generating per year now. It has to be at least 30M?

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  40. Big D: I didn’t fall out with anybody, just got a bit sick of talking to myself. Could have led to madness like Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver or Don Logan in Sexy Beast.

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  42. From Deloitte’s:
    Newcastle United 2014 revenue: 129.7 M pounds (up a whopping 35%)
    Broadcast revenue: 78.2 M pounds (up 53%!)
    Commercial revenue: 25.6 M pounds (up 50% but still poor as an income source).
    Back in the top 20 for the money league again. Where exactly is the money going since it’s apparently not being used to pay off our debt to Mike?

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  44. Unbloody believable. 130M pounds in revenue and we don’t even have a manager. And we have no ambition other than mid table.

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  46. G2: I bet everyone will be shocked when they see how much money has been made. The Fat Man will repay some money on his loan though as he will not want to pay anything to the tax man. It is set up that way, that Fatty gets his money back. He is fattening NUFC for sale or as his cash cow as long as we are not relegated.

    He is making NUFC in his own image (fat).

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  47. Let me get this clear. WE have revenue of 130M pounds a year (and this will rise again in 2025). Our costs are around 95M including all wages etc. So that leaves about 35M pounds a year clear. Yet we aren’t paying Ashley back apparently. And we spend very little on players. WTF?

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  48. G2, that’s the spirit mate, reckon he’ll enjoy that, appropriate for someone who extracts the urine. 😀

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  50. That’s it Eric mate? That’s what we’re going to do with the money? Pay Mike back and do nothing else? Just try to finish 10th each season? And people are actually going to buy season’s tickets for that?

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  53. I notice that Carver has already had meetings with the regime about next season. Arranging pre season ect… Why are they continuing with this facade and not just appointing him now? I would be amazed if they didn’t release a statement going something like this; “We had a look at who was available and decided we had the best man for the job in John.”

    On another note, I notice a distinct lack of any noises about this super new training complex that we were suppose to be building this May. Anyone know what’s happening with it?

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  54. Stuart: don’t you think the plan is to make a stupid and disliked appointment in the off-season when they think few people are looking?

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  55. Also Stuart: who has he met with? The only thing I saw was Ashley in the dressing room after Hull I think. Does Charnley matter, he shouldn’t, but he might?

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  56. A rich mid table side with no ambition. Is there anything wrong with this picture? This is a sport isn’t it? Isn’t the goal in sports to win something? I must have accidentally wandered into a parallel universe.

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  58. Ah, so we’re a rich mid table club with a new training complex and under turf heating. All right then. What supporter could ask for more than that?

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  59. Never mind lads. It takes big plums to change things. And that’s something we’ve been sadly lacking at the club for 8 years now.

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  60. STUART…. Let me get back to Spurs for a minute…

    What are they doing this weekend? Playing in a cup final.

    What did they do midweek? Played in Europe, even though they got knocked out.

    Where are they in the League? Chasing a Europa spot?

    What are we doing? PROBABLY APPOINTING JOHN CARVER…

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  63. It’s all gone very quiet re the new training complex. I wonder if mention of it is in the accounts.

    Regards the accounts I think I would feel better if the profit has been used to pay down the debt as there is no other logical explaination for a football club to not spend their profits on improving the squad. I mean, why do we still sell to buy?

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  66. Stuart
    Lot of construction going on at the moment at Darsley Park next to the training ground.
    Don’t get too excited – it’s houses being built.

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  67. I’m not get excited but I am more than a little curious and cynical as to whether it will actually go ahead. It’s all very quiet!

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  68. Edwards told us nothing new in that piece
    a 6 year old with a stick of chalk could work the basic sums out.
    What nobody knows is the finer details.
    How much has been repaid to fatty for his own mistakes.
    How much has been ‘spent’ / allocated to the training academy
    How much tax will have to be paid instead of players purchased
    I’m sure the whole publication of the accounts will be another mash farce that will leave yet more questions unanswered.
    He is certainly dragging his heels a little this year though.
    He couldn’t wait to tell us when we first turned a profit. Why’s that then ?

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  69. of course the new training ground will go ahead, but at the end of the day the amount of money involved will be a drop in the ocean for a gazillionaire like Ashley.
    Have also read that since the toon bairns are recruiting within a 30mile radius of sjp, that Ashley has done a deal with the Tyneside Metro so that the new recruits can take advantage of cheaper metro tickets to get to training. The bloke is a genius.

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  70. Anyhow, onto less important things, like matchday.
    The thorn in the side of NUFC
    Big match today. Can the team make good from last weekends diabolical performance ?
    I feel another poor game coming on, two shyte teams unable to score against each other.
    so I’m going 0-0.
    Will Parver be happy with that ? whey aye man
    another point closer to keeping his job another point further from relegation. Jobs a good ‘un

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  71. bb regarding the score today, i have recollections of years gone by where Cisse cracks in a winner in the last seconds to win us a hard earned 1-0 win. can see the same happening today.
    we must avoid defeat at all costs, and considering how many injuries villa have this should be possible. i also don’t think the battering at city will affect us too much psychologically because the players knew it was coming anyway and were in that mindset. carver has identified the games whre we can expect to get the necessary points to keep us up, today is one of those games, but it won’t be pretty.

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  75. This might be the only day when I am supporting Toad of Toad Hall. C’mon Fat Sam, show us you can chew gum and coach a football team at the same time. Did I ever mention I don’t like Pardew much 🙂

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