Is it a case of deja vu?

kimtoon

426-newcastle--124324593813139800I don’t know what’s worse at the moment, the pain in my knee or the pain in my heart. As I sat perched with outstretched leg watching that mess of a team play Leicester I felt physically sick. The lack of endeavour, the total lack of discipline and awareness was simply astounding. I said it last week and I will repeat it again, they are not pulling their weight and it’s not good enough. To lose the ball from the first kick and contrive collectively to concede in the first 30 seconds is pathetic and must have left John Carver shell shocked. And you knew, just knew it was game over from that point on, because this lot have no heart or guts for the fight, it’s that simple. Carver is flogging a dead horse at the moment or should that be donkey? Either they have collectivly gone already or they don’t want to play for him. There is talent in the squad but for what ever reason it’s not showing right now. Sissoko, Janmaat, Krul, Perez and Colback are all capable of pulling us out the muck, yet just aren’t performing and we have to assume they either can’t be bothered or Carver is not getting things right. I don’t think Mike Ashley can afford to let this slide a day longer, he HAS to bring in another coach now, if only for a shot in the arm and kick up the players backside before it’s too late.
Let’s face it, if we go down there will be no swift return this time, the likes of Sissoko, Perez, Janmaat, Cisse, Krul, Tiote and De Jong will not fancy Championship football and will all want out. So too would Cabella and young Aarons, the latter already eyed up by Premier league clubs prior to his never ending injury.
As I type this it’s reported Carver has told a bbc presser that he thinks Mike Williamson got his self red carded on purpose! Well if he hadn’t lost the dressing room he surely has now. Much as I don’t rate big Mike, you don’t EVER come out with that in a post match presser. If true though, then I hope the lad has played his last game for us.
We are falling apart like a cheap piece of tat from one of Ashleys shops and frankly our owner deserves nothing less than relegation, we fans on the other hand do not and for that reason I hope we survive this crisis.
Reports are coming in that Steve Mclaren is talking to his bosses in light of not reaching the playoffs and interest from Newcastle. It’s looking like we could yet see him in the Newcastle dug out next week.
With Saints and Everton both failing to give us a helping hand today those fans of Villa who happily waved us goodbye have leap frogged us in the league and our rivals Sunderland have made serious strides on us and now are only 2 points behind us with a game in hand. Frankly, lads and lasses, it don’t look good at all.
This season is very reminiscent of the 08/09 relegation season, with us seemingly safe but then drifting after losing our manager, going on an awful run and ending with a Geordie trying to save us. We had a glut of red cards in the last 4 games for Barton, Bassong and Edgar, like now with our present lads and signed a duff in Xisco (see Riviere) and a strange loanee in Ignucio Gonzalez (see Chucky). We had a captain in Owen who wanted away with his management producing a 34 page booklet of his highlights to show interested clubs, just like our current captain Colo who left us ages back truth be told. Finally and perhaps most chilling of all, the team we lost to on the final day of the season played in claret and blue, you have to agree there’s a real sense of deja vu going on.

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  1. Troy they may aswell use him as a mop as he has been useless as a leader, and hasn’t been much good as a CB for a long time

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  2. So Charnley and Carver are in a meeting right now. It will go something like this:

    LC “Can you still do the job, John?”
    JC ” Yes Lee, no problem. I can keep us up.”
    LC ” Ok, then. Business as usual.”

    That will be about it.

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  3. Stu@377, That is as insightful as any statement I’ve read to date mate and likely profoundly accurate.

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  4. The regime are paralysed by their own ineptitude and god knows there’s an abundance of that.

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  6. Here’s one just for Tory Boy
    “I sometimes lie awake at night and wonder why I am still so popular and, to be honest, I don’t know.”

    Pele

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  7. Someone show Jabba this

    Money is like manure. You have to spread it around or it smells. ~J. Paul Getty

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  8. Kim – paralysed is dead right
    its too easy for them to do nothing, even though the writing is on the wall.
    Now they are backed up into a corner with nowhere to go.
    Just praying for the season to end

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  9. If Charnley has went to speak JC alone it will be to reassure him. If he was going in to tell him he was being replaced then he’d have taken an armed guard I reckon

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  11. Sharpy – if he was going to sack him, it would have been done on the telephone.
    Cowards never go face to face

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  19. That should be 3 defeats and counting 😉

    “Profit is sweet, even if it comes from deception.”

    Sophocles

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  20. Stuart calling some one else a sad man 😆 sorry not having a dig, just funny as fuk! 😆 😆

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  21. Scott Wilson of Northern Echo says Carver has been sacked
    ???

    for all mortals, all things take second place to money.

    Sophocles

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  22. The harsh reality is we’re the worst team in the Prem and deserve to go down.
    After everything Caver’s said over the weekend how can he still be there. Easy – Charnley’s as useless as a boiled egg. They told us the Rangers 5 could be recalled at any time. So go and get Vuckic and Streete. What’s that, they can’t be recalled? How about giving Lascelles a squad number, he’s our player why can’t he be recalled from the loan now that Derby’s season is over? Boiled egg again!
    Top to bottom – worst in the PL.

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  23. The bitterness of poor service will be remembered long after the joy of a low price.

    Seems appropriate for our situation. ..

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  24. Looks like the meeting is over. Carver will now go and do training with the players who he says aren’t listening and try to get sent off on purpose. That should be a quality training session…

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  25. ffs bringing in Peter Beardsley for last 3 games
    Really ?
    Fatty hanging out another legend to dry 👿
    Has he not seen the U21 results lately like
    Christ on a bike what a mess

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  26. http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/771333111?-11058:809

    I see Capt couldn’t give a **** is feeling all sorry for himself. How dare those training fans not want to see him when he’s walked all the way over there!! – most effort he put in all day!!.
    It must have been edited though coz there’s no apology to those travelling fans that I can see. No rally cry from our Capt that he and the players will leave blood, sweat & tears against WBA, or do whatever it takes to keep us in the PL.

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  29. False alarm about scott wilson northern echo. Looks like someone set a spoof ssn twitter account up and claimed Carver had been sacked.

    I find the whole concept of being ‘sexy’ embarrassing and confusing. If I do a photo-shoot, people desperately want to change me – dye my hair blonder, pluck my eyebrows, give me a fringe. Then there’s the choice of clothes. I know everyone wants a picture of me in a mini-skirt. But that’s not me.
    Troy Stavers 2015

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  30. Carver is at the training ground now so expect him to take training. God help us!

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  31. expect the next headline to be “carver and players kiss and make up”
    as you were for the next 3 matches then

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  32. Only QPR have conceded more goals than us so far. Only Burnley have a worse goal difference.

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  33. Sharpy I expect that to change by the end of the season tho
    to No one has conceded more goals than us and no one has a worse GD 👿

    “Where large sums of money are concerned, it is advisable to trust nobody.”
    Mike Ashley

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  34. An intelligent owner or managing director would hand Carver a P45 but we know that isn’t going to happen. Carver could get a pat on the back and another 8 year contract, anything is possible with these clowns. Ashley is the dumbest football owner around. He know’s jack ****.

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  35. Boots – more than likely mate. We have conceded 60 goals and QPR have conceded 61. We are -24 and Burnley are -27 so not much in it at all. When you consider that everyone believes that QPR & Burnley are gone, I reckon were ******.
    SSN showed JC driving into the training ground this morning – smile wider than Jose Mourinhos

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  36. Krul is right Colocini is no captain and a very bad defender. Him and Williamson can both do one at the end of the season.

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  37. Let’s just get a win and Carver can slag Colocini and Williamson off as much as possible. The two ronnies, dumb as ****, paid to much money. Shearer would stick one on them. I don’t place all the blame on Carver’s door, no fucking way. Ashley, Colocini and Williamson have put us in this mess!

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  38. It’s a pity old droopy dog isn’t still manager of QPR. Ashley could have paid him a visit with a brown envelope – bit like 2 seasons ago 😉

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  40. 2 over paid players that don’t give a ****. I hate Colocini and Williamson for what they have done to our defence this season.

    Colocini hurting, what a joke of an excuse. How do you think the fan’s feel watching you defend. It would be funny at someone else’s club.

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  41. Sharpy I agree with Shearer and Krul mate. They get paid well especially Colocini. I detect back stabbing is going on behind the scenes and I don’t like that sort of thing.

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  44. As I said before the only way out is to offerHoddle, Venables or another a 1mil a game for 3games surely it would be far cheaper than losing 71mil by going down even more the following seasons,something has to be done

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  45. Aarons may play if he comes through the game in mid-week OK,but who the hell can defend???

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  46. Is there any chance Steven Taylor can recover in time ? We need him back desperately. Dummett in as CB might be the best possible option but that still leaves Colocini in defence unfortunately.

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  51. Kim Oh no mate. Were doomed. Everythings at stake here. I will go with your 3 5 2 formation. They can’t get any worse and home advantage might help. I do like Carver, he does genuinely love the club and I hope he gets three points and gets rid of Williamson and Colocini in the summer. I’m so angry with them both and I totally respect Krul more. I think rebuilding our defence in the summer is highly important. How could Ashley let things get so bad. I never feared relegation with FFS or the halls. I genuinely don’t blame Carver.

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  53. It’s not Carver’s fault. Sharpy mate I just read Shearer’s comments and agree with him totally.

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  54. Is there anybody who still thinks this regime have any idea how to run a football club?

    It beggars belief it really does. I’ll not be there Saturday. My empty seat is my protest to this disease ridden she’ll of a club.

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  55. Club Statement.
    Following the result at Leicester City on Saturday, there has been two days of frank dialogue with John Carver and senior players.

    The outcome of those discussions is that the board, John Carver, his staff and players are absolutely focused on our current situation and the three hugely-important fixtures that remain this season, two of which are at St. James’ Park.

    All parties accept responsibility for the current situation but are determined, together, to ensure this Club – your Club – retains its Premier League status.

    That is the only focus at this time.

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  59. Groucho No I just like his honesty. I don’t throw all the blame at him like everyone else does. Colocini and Williamson are terrible defenders. Cisse’s stupid red card for spitting. Ashley not backing him in january. Why do you think Pardew jumped ship.

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  61. Stem this team is only one of two to have beaten Chelsea this season. Carver has criticised his players in public which is hardly a good way to motivate them. His team selections have not been good. Abeid was reckoned by most to be man of the match one week but was subbed in that match and has hardly appeared since. Raylor had three poor matches in a row but still gets picked. Even his corners and free kicks are now gash. It took Carver a long time to drop Gouffran, and he has played players out of position. I am sorry, he may be honest and a Geordie and all that but in my view no manager and probably not even a good coach. Just my view though.

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  62. Well, you live by the sword you die by the sword – but I think the clubs fell on their sword with this decision personally.
    Whether you think relegation is a good thing or not – we better get used to the idea, coz I think the writing is on the wall now.

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  63. Agree Sharpy – I don’t even feel now that a win would keep us up. Hull to get 4 points Scum to get 5 is not impossible. Carver remains – we’re down.

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  64. Groucho I would like a better manager than Carver but I think most good manager’s would struggle here. Probably not 8 defeats in a row but more defeats than wins

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  66. I’ve never felt flatter about the club than I do now. Ready to walk away altogether 😥

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  67. The worse part of all this is that even a failed Championship manager doesn’t even want to come and be our manager. How sad is that?

    How will the regime learn?

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  68. Ceased to be ‘our club’ a long time ago. These brainless morons deserve what is coming. No chance at all that Carver will keep us up. Let’s face it we don’t deserve to be there. We are a complete shambles from top to bottom. Fiddling while Rome burns. Sad day

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  69. For me on Saturday we have to try and attack as we just can’t defend. My team would be;

    Krul
    Taylor Colo Dummet Anita
    Colback Abeid
    Sissoko De Jong Cabella
    Perez

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  70. It is clear that Charnley has no bloody idea. He’s a frightened man and doesn’t know what to do. Over to you Mr McAwber.

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  72. They say that you have to hit rock bottom before things get better – maybe Saturday was rock bottom. Trouble is we only have 3 games now to get better – and we have no defence, and JC is still calling the shots.

    Stu – I believe Dummett is injured mate, but I desperately hope he can make these next 2 games at the very least.

    I also see Fat Sam has came out and said we are in trouble – and it could be his side that sends us down. Doesn’t look like him & Ashley made up then 🙄

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  75. So even McClaren has turned us down then? What are you going to do now Ash?
    I think the best thing that could happen is we go down and there is no money in it for him anymore, and less advertising potential. Also there is no guarantee of getting back up with these players! Last time we had Nolan, Barton, Carroll and even Ameobi scored goals and was decent (ish) at championship level. That is a hard league with a lot of games and physical opponents. It’s not as if we play good football on the deck either, I’ve watched Bournemouth a lot recently and they are a million miles a better footballing team than us. Some people are kidding themselves that we have good players who are under-performing. Most of our players are average at best. It might be a few years of pain and then re-born under a new owner, or he might just run the club into the ground! In a sort of spiteful way, I just want him to lose his money, but he might sit there for 10 years and have us a mid table championship club like Leeds!

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