Time for the players to man up and remember what real sacrifice is. An open letter to our players.
So today it’s confirmed John Carver remains your coach, like it or not that is your reality, as it is ours. Whether you like him or not, his love for our club cannot be denied but fans are questioning whether your commitment is as strong. Too many of you surrendered over the last few games and let the club you represent and the fans and city down. It matters not if you dislike your boss or his methods, quite simply you are paid well to perform for 90 plus minutes, it’s not much to ask. Doubtless many of you fancy a transfer to a ‘ bigger’ club some day in the future, maybe it’s even been promised? Well you best ask yourselves this. Have I shown I have what it takes?, do I possess team spirit?, am I a team player? have I given my all? If you can’t say yes to all of that, then take a long hard look in the mirror and think about two lads that really did have passion and gave their all for the club. All season we have been remembering Liam Sweeney and John Alder at the 17th minute of every game, these lads lived and died for the club. They chose to travel thousands of miles every season to follow the club and support players like you. This pre-season they paid the ultimate price when the plane they took to go watch you play was shot down on route. How dreadfully sad it will be if a season that started so incredibly traumatically ends in relegation for want of a bit of fight and endeavour. Put simply, if you cannot give your all and fight for the fifty odd thousand fans that turn up at St James Park then do it for Liam and John out of respect for all the support they gave to you.
Yours Kimtoon
We could be in the bottom 3 on Saturday night and the club have announced they are sticking with the manager until the end of the season.
Do they go back on their word? Making a mockery of what they said or do they stick with him and making a mockery of logic. :-/
Troy Stavers(Quote)
so you were happy just to tick along under the mostly inept gobshite, because there was a danger it could only get worse.
Is it a crime to HOPE for better
Is it a crime to PUSH the owner to change
Is it better to just sit on your **** and do nowt.
Now THAT’S your battered wife syndrome.
I told you, if he appoints worse, then the fans should make it clear.
Hound them out, everyone of them, and keep doing so until the fat **** gets the message once and for all.
WE DONT DEMAND A TEAM THAT WINS BUT WE DO DEMAND A CLUB THAT TRIES
Tries to be the best we can,
Until the owner gets that message into his thick fat skull the turmoil should go on and on.
He should regret the day he ever met sir John and struck a deal with him.
He needs to realise, if the ambition is just top 10, he still needs to invest in a good manager and good players and just fucking KEEP HOLD of them for a while. You cannot keep building a new team every season, and hope to remain mid table.
Stupid clueless money grabbing idiot.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Nobody ‘believed’ he would appoint better, it was always a good bet he would go for the same old cheap option.
But this is the only way an arrogant fool can learn any lessons, the hard way.
Normal logic doesn’t apply with Ashley, he always thinks he knows better.
But in football, he has shown he knows NOTHING.
He is in danger of pissing his investment away,
What a clown
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
you are spot on @ 73
but you forgot to add, a failed out of work manager, a knacker of a scout and a hopeless out of date bunch of coaches.
The list goes on and on and on.
It just beggars belief that he sells out to 50k + ‘fans’ every other week.
he must have been laughing his little **** off.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Betsy.
You now state “Nobody believed” he would appoint a better manager.
WIHIAN 😯 (Well I’ve Heard It All Now) 😯
You claimed he was out of his depth as a premier league manager. So you were expecting another appointment out of his depth. Well you certainly got what you wanted. 🙄
And now you cry on about it. Dear me. 🙄
The irony of it all. : 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I’m loving the fact that he is shitting his pants right now.
No players want to come here and the ones we have want out
No coaches want to come here and the ones we have are a failure
His once oh so loyal fanbase is drifting away
even the good old tea lady spits in his cuppa
” oh woe is me mobody loves me”
even his own mam and dad don’t like him after he shat all over them
ha ha ha ha ha
DUMB ***
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
No I’m not crying. I’m loving it.
He reaps what he sows
I said at the time, it was his choice, not mine.
If he had appointed the right man after percy bailed on him, we wouldn’t be in this mess right now.
Or do you disagree with that too ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Go on answer me that one simple question
waiting
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
@73 & 79 – the drunken 2nd hand car dealer was left off that list too – on more than one occasion. I have to be honest & say I thought he was on his way back yesterday!!.
Kim – excellent article. It would be a disgrace if we got relegated the season we lost 2 of our loyalist supporters. Maybe Carver should consider getting their family members in to speak to the players & remind them just how much it means.
Sharpy17(Quote)
SJP is a morgue it has been for years
Appointing the right manager when the chance arose would have got the place buzzing again, of that I have no doubt.
We are clamouring to get behind a good team with a good manager.
The sound of 50k+ fans inside SJP is unbelievable when it gets going.
We back our Lads through thick and thin when we are all pulling in the same direction.
ffs he could even put the ST prices up and we would still fill the ground.
We used to have a 12k waiting list for seats.
I don’t see how any of this is the fans fault, none of it.
But you just love to point the finger don’t you.
well you are pointing it at the wrong people.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Pardew was a coward
he now says he told the owner we would be in this mess before xmas and that the players weren’t good enough.
This after he said the squad was the best he had ever had,
His football management took a bunch of average players and turned them into a steaming pile of shyte.
And he was doing that for years before this season.
It was a bit late to grow a backbone then, he should have done that after the season we finished 5th. But typical of a coward, he took the easy option and became a patsy.
And we (the fans) are getting castigated because we wanted HIM replaced with someone better.
you’re right, YCMIU
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Tory Boy – I took the “BELIEVED” quote from your comment @ 74
that’s why its in quote marks.
YOU were the one that stated we ‘believed’ he would appoint better.
You do realise there is a difference between belief and hope don’t you ?
I think you just prefer to be pedantic and obnoxious.
Still waiting for you to answer
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I do find it incredible that a regime can run a club so badly. How can this happen? Almost everything they do is a disaster. I just don’t know how it is possible.
Regarding changing the manager, we only need one win and even Shearer got that, so I would have done it. I’m just hoping professional pride comes to the fore on Saturday as it’s clear the players and the coach don’t like each other. That’s another reason why we’re doomed next season too as Carver will still be here regardless.
Stuart79(Quote)
Betsy
Do just rant without digesting and understanding what others write?
You ask me to answer your simple question. It’s certainly simple.
My point was I knew he wouldn’t appoint the right manager. He would always go for the cheap option. He’s doing it again with Carver. He’s sticking with him as he’s on a long contract.
That question is so ridiculous I can’t believe you asked it. What do you want me to say? Yes, I would have been wrong if he appointed Jose or Arsene?
Dear me. 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@Troy. you can scream for Alan all you want. youre forgetting his terrible run end of last season losing 7 out of 8 & didnt win much beginning of this season.
Pardew out is all going to plan. lessons have been learned (hopefully) 😯
If we stay up I’d expect a bit better than Pardew
I see Ed is blaming the protesters for our terrible run 😯 🙄 😛
Gashley(Quote)
@Troy
do you honestly expect Mike to worry about ending Carvers contract? what 2mill? at the risk of losing 70Mil plus if we get relegated.
Or is it simply too late to get another manager on board for a relegation scrap? which manager would risk it? not many..
Gashley(Quote)
Betsy
Are you stating you didn’t think Ashley would appoint a better manager than Pardew?
I’m assuming you wanted Pardew sacked because you stated he was out of his depth as a premier league manager. Surely you were expecting better than Pards if you thought that and therefore believed he would?
Make it clear. Pardew being out of his depth as a premier league manager, you therefore believed he would appoint someone better?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
i see stavers is still telling us what he told us he’s been telling us for the past 5 years.
deary me – it’s enough to send a glass eye to sleep.
roy cropper(Quote)
if jabba wants to bin carver he will,dont be fooled about the money jabba will have to pay out its peanuts.
i think what is happinin is there waiting till end of season,more managers to choose from,well i fkin hope. 😆
hitman(Quote)
Gashley
I believe Ashley likes Carvers attitude. He must, or he would be sacked.
I think Ashley is clueless as a football club owner. Do I really believe he would consider not sacking him just so he doesn’t have to pay off his contract. I don’t believe it would be a sole basis to make the decision but I’m confident it will be a consideration for him and it shouldn’t even come into it for me.
He’s a complete gambler and his whole record, media reports about his life style clearly show this.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
did I miss something? what did Troy tell us 5yrs ago?
Gashley(Quote)
Crapper
I wish they had all listened 5 yrs ago and we might not find ourselves in this position. It’s the apathetic pathetic stance fans have taken over the last 5 yrs which has resulted in this.
They are culpable as well for making a mockery of my club.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
What a load of verbal diarrhoea
All I asked was would we be in this predicament if he had appointed a decent manager after Pardew left.
Yes or No
no mention of Jose or Arsene
once again you have to go to the extremes don’t you.
There were apparently upto 80 applications for the job none from Jose or Arsene though. There were plenty other good choices in there that would have done a good job and the fans and players could get behind and support.
I give up, there’s just no point in trying to debate with you.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
😆 Troys out fishing 😛
Gashley(Quote)
slavvers
the truth is – your thriving on the situation.
roy cropper(Quote)
Gashley
5 yrs ago and ever since I warned you about Ashley and his motives. You fluttered from opinion to opinion like a butterfly searching for the best pollen.
I’m amazed it took you so long for the coffee to hit the back of your nostrils.
Dear me. 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I think a lot of us ‘hoped’ he’d hire a decent coach after percy. I am still staggered he couldn’t foresee this situation happening, I could. It’s obvious if you let defenders go when you are already short on quality that you are one or two injuries/suspensions away from disaster and it was ALWAYS gonna happen with our injury record. Both me and Stu pointed this out but plenty said we wouldn’t miss Mbiwa and Santon, well we do now. 🙁 Short sighted penny pinching idiot has just loaded a stupid amount of pressure on an already weak and poor defence. Oh and not getting in a quality striker was another ball dropped.
kimtoon(Quote)
Its pointless ‘believing’ anything when it comes to Ashley.
don’t you get it ffs
all we have is HOPE.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
It’s great how I get accused of fishing when I hold people accountable for their decisions.
Really? I thought that was about expressing my views so that next time you listen to those who are wiser. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Betsy
How is it pointless believing anything about Ashley?
I’ve been reading him like a book for 5 yrs. He’s so predictable.
Dear me. 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
fortunately we are capable of sifting through half the **** you come out with, taking out the sensible points discarding the tripe and adding a few of our own opinions to the mix aswell.
Unfortunately you are not capable of accepting anyone elses opinions, just your own.
How shallow and sad
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I told you before, you should start your own blog called ‘TROYS BLOG’
only your views could be expressed as only they would be right.
everyone who doesn’t agree with you could be banned.
You would be in your element
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Kim
There’s been a very small handful of bloggers who have fought incessantly for years, against a torrent of abuse, pointing out this outcome. Those that abused are now looking a sorrowful, foolish and pitiful people now.
I’m not saying this for effect. I mean it. It’s my club as well and they have allowed Ashley to reach this point.
I was advocating protests and boycotts years ago.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
BB @ 98 how do you know there were plenty of good choices in the list of 80 ? Did you see the list ? As I don’t believe the club had 80 applicants, do you believe them ?.
I and a few others believed the whole time and stated it a fair few times that if Pards went he would be replaced with another very average yes man or he would be replaced from within .
Big Dave(Quote)
Betsy
I have to put up with your ridiculous rants and naive points of views. I don’t disagree with everyone on here. I support a handful of bloggers. It just so happens they have been proven right and you wrong. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
We just have to hope there is a semblance of professional pride left in this rag tag team.
kimtoon(Quote)
When is he going to hire someone from football who knows what they’re talking about? The ridiculous thing is that every decision he’s made we have known it was the wrong one and would come back to bite him on the ****. Why didn’t he know that if we did?
We knew the club hadn’t done enough in th summer by not buying a proven striker and centre half, yet they went along anyway. We knew it was a mistake to let Mbiwa and Santon leave in January (well some of us did) yet they did it and now look at what’s happening.
Will he ever learn?
Stuart79(Quote)
Kim @ 111 maybe just maybe after getting a public lashing the players will want to come out and make a point and prove to the fans that they do have a bit of heart and soul.
Well thats what i’m hoping for
Big Dave(Quote)
If the board strive for mid table safety/stability in a hope of doing an Everton for example, then they need to look at the clubs going for the same thing – Swansea, Stoke & West Ham. It’s quite simple really, if you are going through that phase as a club, then the least you have to do is give the fans what they want – a style of football that can excite them.
Over the last 2 seasons they have made changes – Stoke replacing Pullis for Hughes. Swansea replacing Laudrup for Monk and WH bringing in Sheringham to the coaching staff & changed their playing style this season. League position wise not much has changed – but the fans are happier with what they are turning up to watch (WH fans more so earlier this season. Things have fizzled out a bit, but they know Sam will be replaced in the summer – and they will go for the best man possible).
The fact is that Pardew wasn’t liked – he recognised that in the end, and similar to Pullis, he knew that regardless what he did, a large potion of the fans would still pick fault. Is Mark Hughes that much better than Pullis – no, but his footballing style sits better with the majority Stoke fans.
Do we need to go and get Klopp or Benitez – it would be nice, but in reality we need a manager to come in and give us a style of football most of us can get excited about.
Personally, I think Pardew should have been replaced in the summer. It was obvious that he was on a hiding to nothing, coz the dislike for a large number of fans had gone too far.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stu I said years ago that he should have a footie man running the club simply because it’s not like anyother business.
Big Dave(Quote)
Big Dave – of course I never saw the list, neither do I know if there were 80 names or not.
I am confident however that there were some applications, and others that may not have applied but who would have come if approached in the ‘normal’ manner.
I am glad your predictions have been proved right well done you.
I said at the time, if he goes down the route you predicted, we would end up in trouble.
Seriously now, WHO in their right mind would go down that route.
No normal sensible thinking person who has any kind of football ideas would.
Ashley has brought all this on himself, and he deserves everything he gets. If that means relegation AGAIN, well tough titty on him.
If this blog is just about point scoring, and who predicted what, when, well how sad is that too ?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
@Troy 😛
&.. so the best option is just keep Ashley happy and sing from Pardews hymn book? for 5yrs or more. 😯
take the risk mate, who knows who we’ll get, I’d love it if we got better than Alan. 5yrs of reminding you about it 😛
Gashley(Quote)
this is Troy who wanted Pardew to walk after Alan advocated the sale of Carroll 😯
wanted Pardew to be SACKED if we got beat @home to Leicester 😯
& was so happy with Pards he gave his season ticket up 😯
but you would be please for Alan to stay for another 5 yrs 😛
YCMIU
Gashley(Quote)
3 cheers to the 3 ‘i said men’
hip hip foe Big Dave
hip hip for Stu
Hip hip for Troy
for he’s a knowledgeable fella, for he’s a knowledgeable…. 😛
Gashley(Quote)
BB @ 116 I have never came on here to point score ?
I was simply stating that unless you knew there was a list of 80 and that of those 80 there was plenty of good choices it would seem your believing the club
Big Dave(Quote)
To be fair, Gashley, you might be right about Troy but I don’t know. But me? I’ve very, very rarely wrong when it comes to Ashley and NUFC. I base all my comments on history and the form book. You can’t go wrong then.
Stuart79(Quote)
BB @ 116 also meant to add, you ask who would go down the route that I predicted ? JABBA he has gambled loads of times before, but then thats because he and the rest of the Regime know fuk all about Footie and running a club , and they think they can do it their way
Big Dave(Quote)
big dave @ 120
i know 6 of the applicants – they are season ticket holders that sit in the leazes end.
it wouldn’t surprise me if the other 74 are ordinary fans as well.
roy cropper(Quote)
they couldn’t do any worse a job!!
roy cropper(Quote)
Dave, you’re right. Ashley thinks his way is best. This season has shown that it’s not even best for mediocrity! The question is will he ever learn?
Some supporters are saying we should forget the boycott and turn up and support the team on Saturday. But what happens if we’re in the same position this time next year, which is likely? He has never changed in 8 years so why should we believe him?
One thing that surprises me though; It’s pretty serious now. We’re at crisi point and he’s about to lose £80m. Why hasn’t he released a statement setting out his plans for the future? What is his aims and goals for the club? Explain to the supporters what we are actually supporting these days because we don’t know what supporting NUFC means anymore.
Stuart79(Quote)
I feel like the fans and supporters are in a quandary now and we don’t know whether to stick or twist.
Do we continue with boycotts and protests on Saturday ? or should we lay them to one side and get behind the Team and try and roar them on to 3 points in the hope of retaining our PL status ?
Once again a leader needs to come to the fore and unite the fans one way or the other.
what a complete and utter shambolic mess
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Stuart – you are bang on there.
Perfect time for a positive statement of intent from ASHLEY
not the club, him.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB – My problem with the protesters downing tools and supporting the players in their hour of need is that doing this will give Ashley a free reign to do what he wants and he will always know we will come crawling back to help him out. We have him in his weakest position for years and I say lets hammer than final nail in!
Stuart79(Quote)
I’m just joking Stu. all light banter. 😉
I think we all know how bad Ashley has been for the last 5 yrs. Some (inc me) lived in hope after his prudent ways he might start spending a little bit of the profit he made. The lack of ambition & competing for cups etc has been obvious for years tho and keeping Pardew just keeps us bobbing along imo.
I want to see changes and if it resulted in relegation and Ashley leaving Or changing his ways i’ll accept it.
Gashley(Quote)
Great article Kim. Well if there is any truth in the DM article and JC did offer to resign, what the hell was the bald one thinking in not accepting it? Is he so stupid and out of his depth that someone throws him a few platitudes and he believes all is well and suddenly they’re all going to pull together for the good of the club? YCMIU.
He should have accepted Carvers resignation got one of the players to step up and galvanise the squad for the last three games. Surely that would have increased the chance of something positive happening rather than leaving the three wise monkeys in charge?
Well he has truly reaped what he has sown.
Also if Pardew did predict a relegation battle during the NZ tour last summer, yet jumped mid season what does that tell you about ‘poor’ Alan?
Geordie Deb(Quote)
Stuart – I hear what you are saying but it seems a lot of fans don’t want to be blamed for it all going pear shaped.
Even though its going to hell in a hand cart anyway.
After the Sir Bobby debacle, fans don’t want the finger of blame pointed at them again
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
lol how many times have we asked for a positive statement from Ashley.
I would be full of lies anyway. Just like he told Colo that players would be signed and ambition would be shown..
Gashley(Quote)
Gash – so what’s the answer fella ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
@BB to what? wanting a statement of intent?
I’d love it if i could believe it.. would you believe owt he says now?
Gashley(Quote)
In this hour of need I’d say get behind the team. Ashley knows we won’t go away but we should support the lads for the last 3 games..to stay up.
A full stadium with a decent atmosphere would help.
lets see if Ashley learns anything IF we’re in the Prem & he’s still here.
Gashley(Quote)
Dave – I’ve had an idea for an article. How do you get them up on here?
Stuart79(Quote)
Gash @ 135
I think I have to agree, reluctantly.
I just don’t know, because next season will most likely just be more of the same, and Ashley wins again.
Gaaaaaggghhhhh!!!!!!
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I doubt anyone really wants the relegation route if I’m honest, not even Stuart, but how sad that it has come to this.
madness
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I don’t even know what I think any more! Sometimes it’s “don’t worry we’ll stay up somehow” other times it’s “does it really matter with these dolts in charge?” Then it’s “the championship has been really exciting this season with the three winners all playing free flowing attacking football, might not be too bad.”
Then I think about the WBA game. 1 fit defender. Mad dog coach. **** players.
I’ll watch with interest but very little emotion 😥
georgio(Quote)
STUART think you e-mail it to Dave,I look forward very much to your thread time it will make good reading,good on you
icedog(Quote)
Mad dog 😛 😆
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB – You’re right, I don’t want relegation but I can honestly say it wouldn’t bother me that much. Watching NUFC these days is completely boring, we have had nothing to play for until the last three games so it doesn’t matter which division were in to watch that.
Also I see the fans forum have replied to Charnley telling him they only want to meet Ashley, and actions not words are required. Good on them!
Stuart79(Quote)
What’s the email address?
Stuart79(Quote)
This brought a laugh
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/babb/11581720/Being-John-Carver-if-he-worked-in-a-convenience-store.html
georgio(Quote)
BB please don’t forecast Sat game lol,you built my hopes up last time,never mind you can watch a good game on telly tonight might lift the gloom, love to watch Pirlo what a player
icedog(Quote)
STUART sure Dave will send it to you via your email you have via this site
icedog(Quote)
Forgot to mention Kim – thanks for a fine article and the sentiments. Could be tough for you next season Bris C v NUFC!
georgio(Quote)
http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/771518265?-11058:809
So Aarons plays for the U21s tonight, with Satka also in the team.
Good chance for match fitness – or should these players be wrapped in cotton wool and saved for WBA?
Sharpy17(Quote)
SHARPY Aarons needs a game badly being out for so long,you couldn’t expect him to go straight into PL game without a blow out,we need him in first team quick
icedog(Quote)
give Aarons 30mins in the u21 a bit of the west Brom game but get him ready for QPR & west Ham
Gashley(Quote)