Teams need individuals in the dressing room that are not afraid to say it as it is. Ruffle feathers and all out the mercenaries. It’s been a common theme for a while now, our fans have pretty much been united in demanding one simple thing from our players; effort.
When your team is made up largely of foreign nationals, they will have no particular loyalty to your club. They are after 2 things; more money or trophies. Where is the incentive to work their balls off for the club badge? This is where strong leadership comes in. Your Roy Keane’s, Joey Barton’s and Steven Gerrard’s will not stand idly by and allow their teammates to take the mickey out of the fans and team.
Joey is 32 now, but can still do a job in the Premier League and he has often spoken bout his admiration for our fans – even if he rightly does not like the board. Colloccini is a good player, but lets not kid ourselves. He does not love Newcastle United and does not take his teammates by the scruff on the neck when they are not performing on the pitch. Cabaye was a previous Captain of our club. Good player, but not a Captain. There is nobody in our squad that fits the leadership profile and in my opinion that is one of the biggest reasons for the club constantly underperforming.
Joey is available on a free this summer and considering what he will bring to the dressing room, even at this stage of his career – he has to be a safe investment. Granted QPR have not shown too much passion this year – but the club is infested with mercenaries and players well past their sell-by-date. Even Joey can’t be expected to work his magic with that lot..
Even if Joey was simply a squad player, he would still be letting rip in the dressing room and creating a strong work ethic and the team bond that always results from everybody pulling in the same direction and working their socks off for eachother. I reckon he’d jump at the chance to sign on with again at this stage of his career and I think the dressing room would benefit massively from it, even if he is a controversial figure with a chequered history. At least he has passion – something our fans are crying out for. What do you reckon?
By Shamrock.
Cholo – Nolan & Barton were mercenaries mate. Barton in particular thought he was bigger than the club & bigger than Ashley. They were 2 of a few players who refused to sign a contract that had a wage reduction in the event of relegation. Contracts that people like Jonas & Krul signed – those are the type of people I want in the dressing room. Those are the type of role models for our young players – not Barton & Nolan.
Sharpy17(Quote)
GTE – Aye, Rivi will probably be a world beater in the CC too 😛
Newkie(Quote)
Sharpy17. Nolan signed 6 months before relegation, Barton I agree brought too much controversy, but Id rather have controversial player willing to fight that plauers who just dont care. We nees a bit of that to compete.
Cholo A. Sall(Quote)
Pirlo for free, Tevez for €12m, Vidal for €12m, Llorente for free, Pogba for free, that what Juve did for world class players or young players in process of being world class. Another prood that saying we need £100m to rebuild is complete bullshit, Money kills English Football, Bale is a £30m player overhyped into a £100m player just because of hype.
Cholo A. Sall(Quote)
Would prefer to see Callum Roberts in the squad rather than Obertan or Gouffran. Don’t know why Carver ( and Pardew before him) persist in sticking by tried and failed players. Thought Ashley wanted us to develop our own talent. Fat chance with Carver or Pardew in charge.
Groucho(Quote)
Groucho the default mode for average to worse mangers is to play veterans.
MDS(Quote)
MDS
I agree. Perez has been a shining light in a shitty outhouse bog.
His attitude is great and he has the potential to be a big name if he keeps developing.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
MDS
We should make a good profit on him. 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Sharpy @ 301 ” They were 2 of a few players who refused to sign a contract that had a wage reduction in the event of relegation”
Where did you get that from ? cause I have never heard that before 😯
Big Dave(Quote)
Even if it were true, I don’t see what business that is of ours. The club was not forced at gun point to give them the contracts they signed.
Shamrock(Quote)
Cholo – Nolan had 18mth left on his contract when he left us and I think Bartons contract was up at the end of the season.
Dave – yeah, there was Barton, Nolan & Enrique who were offered new contracts on the same money they were on, but in the new contract was a clause of a wage reduction if we ever got relegated again. Nolan also wanted a 4-5yr contract and we offered a 3yr. He thought that much of NUFC that he left to go to WH who were in the Championship.
Bartons attitude was ‘who the hell does Ashley think he is offering us this, does he think he can treat us like his SD employees’. Cheeky greedy *******.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy I am 99.9% sure that all players were signed with no relegation clause in their contract, simply because the club never thought about it.
The only thing that I know the players committee wouldn’t sign off on was the bonus scheme which Joey has talked a lot about, and that was one of the reason Hooters got the boot was because he couldn’t get the player to sign.
And anyway why should the players sign a new contract to save Jabba money if they had one already
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave – Yeah, I know about the bonus sheet and you’re right, that was the end of Hoots. But both Nolan & Barton were offered new deals after that – it was the length of the contracts that was the issue, but there was a relegation clause in their as well. It was one of the lessons learned from the drop – coz it didn’t coz Ashley money, he just added it to his interest free debt.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I do remember Nolan holding out for a longer deal.
Shamrock(Quote)
Sharpy I just don’t think not signing a new contract when they allready have one should be used as a stick to beat them, not as much what your saying, but I was near sure that someone maybe Eric said about having to pay Joey while he was inside when it is not true.
I guess what I am against is the players being hammered when at the end of the day Jabba is worse than any of them
Big Dave(Quote)
Sharpy @ 313 I still don’t think that Joey was offered a new contract, I know at the time Nolan was offered one only he was looking a long term one but I can’t ever remember Joey being offered one.
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave – Newcastle definitely did not pay Barton while he was in jail. Infact, Dennis Wise actually tried to renegotiate his contract so that when he came out and back to us, he’d be on a lot less. That was probably why he was so reluctant to sign a renewal with the clause in it.
I just expected more from the likes of Nolan & Barton I think mate. I felt that group of players owed us for getting relegated in the first place. I thought they were being greedy with the length & terms of the contracts they were wanting.
Sharpy17(Quote)
http://metro.co.uk/2011/03/04/joey-bartons-newcastle-contract-talks-not-going-well-alan-pardew-642463/
Dave – Pardews confirmed it at the time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/8723789/Newcastles-Joey-Barton-bartering-over-wages-makes-his-agent-rich.html
But that one explained to me why he didn’t sign.
Like Nolan, he went to the highest bidder. To be fair to Barton, by that point we told him he could leave on a free. He’s slagged Ashley off since for the way he treat him at Newcastle – yet I am certain he would have signed a new contract had he be offered the one that suits.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy sorry mate but none of them links tells me that Barton wouldn’t sign because of a relegation clause etc, IMO after the club tried to screw him when he was inside was the writing on the wall. I guess we just have to agree to disagree mate 😉 .
I am sure you have seen it but this link gives you an idea of Joey’s feeling towards the 2 cretins 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave – no mate, I was just saying that he had been offered one or there were discussions at least.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy just seen I never put the link in, but im on my phone now 😆 it was the interview he done with the R’s shortly after joining them.
Big Dave(Quote)
Is it apathy or tension that’s finally silenced the blog?
georgio(Quote)
I will confidentially predict that we will sell Cisse this summer and bring in one striker and sell sissoko and Tiote and bring in two midfielders to replace them. Sell Williamson and bring in a centre half to replace him.
Essentially the size of the squad will not improve at all. I can really see this happening. Will be one big con.
All this of course if we stay up.
Stuart79(Quote)
I have my doubts we will get anything on Sat,maybe the odd red card too.
I see Bale will get half a mil a week wages in he joins M/U,the world has gone crazy that’s obscene
icedog(Quote)
You could be right Stuart. I think we’ll also get a winger. Are you including the loan from Barca?
It’s never good news from SJP these days. However I’m hoping for good news from WHL, seems more important than our game somehow. I might even watch that instead. Sad.
georgio(Quote)
And can you see ANYONE buying Willo?
georgio(Quote)
Georgio: No. Unless he drops his wage demands and goes down a division.
Terry(Quote)
Getting rid of dead wood is seems to be a big problem at the club that and injuries.
Terry(Quote)
If I was manager I would employ Troy as coach to handle set pieces. I would hire Geordie Two as my assistant and let Kimtoon handle injuries. Eric would make a good advisor so I don’t make the same mistakes of Carver. Sharpy could scout cheap talented player’s and persuade Ashley to part with the clubs cash. Could we do any worse ?
Terry(Quote)
I wouldn’t want the job, give it to Troy 🙂
Terry(Quote)
Terry: I am not as easily won over as Bris V who sold his soul for a couple of pints 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric 🙂 You crack me up
Terry(Quote)
Terry man. I am going on a comedy tour with Carver when the season ends. Here is his latest to The Chronic about press and TV comments made about him:
Carver said: “It doesn’t bother me because first of all, I don’t read the newspapers. I haven’t got a Twitter account, I don’t go on Facebook and I don’t watch the television sport, other than cricket and golf.”
Why doesn’t he keep his mouth closed? Every time he opens his gob, ***** comes out of it!!!! He doesn’t watch football???? F@ck me, that might explain why he keeps doing the Mike Williamson free kick routine.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Here is the full Chronic article about Carver. It shows:
1. Their writers are being told what to write and to stay on Ashley’s good side.
2. Carver is an idiot.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-boss-john-carver-9260575?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
More ***** from Carvs yesterday:
“I have not, ever, ever thought of myself as a caretaker because when I signed that deal it had nothing about caretaker in it.
“I am not a caretaker.
“I told the players that from day one and they understood that from day one but whether that has affected them in the back of their minds, I can’t speak for them.
“What I can say is that it hasn’t affected me in my performance and how I have tried to do things.”
🙂 🙂 🙂 That last sentence is a classic. LLLLLLLLD
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric where does Ashley find these clown’s ? I thought Graham Souness was bad or even Rudd Gullit but Carver makes them look good. He comes out and say’s I’m the best manager/coach in the PL after 8 defeats not win’s ? The man’s a fool. Lee and Ashley are even bigger fools which doesn’t help matters .
Terry(Quote)
LLLLLLLLD. One point from 27, and he says he is the best coach ever! Then he rescinds what he said and says it was a joke (right, John and I had a threesome last night with Kate Upton and Mila Kunis) because everyone thought it showed what a *******-brain he really is. 1 point from 27.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I still think we will beat QPR and stay up. Who is the greater fool, me or Carvs 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric I don’t know mate. They got Charlie Austin but that draw might have restored some confidence. If Hull lose as well I reckon there finished and we can consider ourselves lucky.
Terry(Quote)
Here’s a quote from Carvs about de Jong:
“He’s not actually out injured, he just needs to strengthen up the quad muscle.” “So it was touch and go whether he was available this weekend.”
“But if he gets through the next couple of days of training he could be available for the West Ham game next Sunday.”
Am I going mental or did Seim not play for us and score? I know he is made out of the same glass as Steven Taylor but then why risk him against Swansea 3 fucking weeks ago? Nothing Carver says ever makes any sense and nothing NUFC ever do makes any sense.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Definitely you, Eric.
Stuart79(Quote)
Thanks Stuart, I will remember that 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
@337 The most depressing thing looking at those stats is that the buffoon is still apparantly under consideration for the permanent job…
CC(Quote)
I see Jake Livermore has tested positive to cocaine. What a ****! Couple of years off work for him then…
Wonder how that effects Hull tomorrow?
Stuart79(Quote)
But El Troysterino said we could never really judge Carver before he was hired as our new Manager/head coach. No, he was only a head coach at Toronto and there was no way we could ever have seen this coming given the record of Pards over the last 4 years and his tendencies to go into death spirals, and the record of Carver at Sheffield and Leeds when he was give a chance. No 🙂 No, the fact that Carver coached the attack when we scored about 40 goals each season for the past 3 years means nothing does it?
Now we are seeing the absolute shyte being spouted by Carver in a real time train wreck we can all understand what the players have to listen to every day. LLLLLLLLD.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
And there’s more… We get a 5 minute press conference twice a week from this moron Carver and he says about 3 stupid things every time. Imagine being the players and having to listen to this turducken for 2 or 3 hours a day? He’s their boss as well so they really can’t talk back that much either. I mean, we just get snippets and he sounds like a complete moron (except to Lee Ryder who obviously has a different agenda). If anyone wants to argue about this then go ahead. NOT YOU TROY, I KNOW WHAT YOU WILL SAY 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Coming late to this, but no i wouldn’t have barton back.
I do question him as a leader, as part of that attribute IMO is to be someone to aspire to. That he is not as his behaviour is shocking.
I would agree also that he was never more than average but sadly that’d stand him out from the current crop
sandymag(Quote)
Well IMO this time tomorrow we will know who is taking the 3 rd relegation spot, which I think will be Hull.
Big Dave(Quote)
STUART@344 that’s a shocker that’s him Donald ducked then
icedog(Quote)
DAVE not often your wrong so keep it up mate
icedog(Quote)
Evening lads, Well I lost my mum yesterday morning, to be honest I’m relieved as she has been so ill for so long it’s a merciful release. It’s my dad I’m sad for as they were married 67 years this October, and he looks totally lost poor thing. Been running around here there and everywhere but can’t do anymore until Monday now when we see the funeral director.
kimtoon(Quote)
https://twitter.com/FowlerAndy/status/599176340105891841
kimtoon(Quote)
Kimtoon @351: still sad. Even when they are getting on in years or are ill it is a difficult thing for us all. I don’t know you but you are having a bit of a hard time of late. I hope things get better soon.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric@353, Thank you. It was dreadful watching her fight for breath in the end, she was just too frail and her body too broken to mend. I prefer to remember her full of life and doing the simple things like making my pack lunch as a kid and cheering me on in the swimming pool. THAT was my mum not the broken shell of the last 7 or 8 years who had no dignity. She didn’t deserve that **** ,nobody does.
kimtoon(Quote)
KIM ime so sorry lass,I know you say its a blessing but it she was your ma and will be a big miss,chin up lass
icedog(Quote)
Ice,thanks, she was wonderful, the best mum. Spent last night searching for the best poem to read and the best Engelbert tracks.
kimtoon(Quote)
KIM the french Resistance poem is the best ever poem imo,from dad to mam like,just a thought like
It starts: the love that I have is all that I have
icedog(Quote)
Ice, not seen that will have a look, I was thinking, How shall I miss you by Alan Pemberton
kimtoon(Quote)
KIM if you cannot find it let me know I will hunt it out,I used to know it by heart,but in age lol
icedog(Quote)
Kim, my condolences to you and your family. As you say, best to cherish the good and happy memories from a different time.
MDS(Quote)
Ice, it’s called, The life that I have or sometimes,Yours, . It’s nice, I will ask Dad which he prefers.
MDS@360, Thankyou, I agree. We looked through photos today. So many happy times gone by, she lived life to the full until 7 years or so ago when she lost mobility . They went dancing 3 times a week, she loved to dance .
kimtoon(Quote)
kimtoon, deepest condolensces to you and your family
Munich Mag(Quote)
Kimtoon, so sorry for your loss. It’s good to look back at the happiest times and reminisce. I found this web site online if it’s any use to you. Big friend hug to you and your family. http://funeralhelper.org/remembrance-how-i-shall-miss-you-alan-pemberton.html
Jill(Quote)
Sorry to hear that, Kim. I know how you feel at this time but on a slightly lighter note it sounds like she was a canny age and had a hell of a innings. Can’t ask for more than that I suppose.
Stuart79(Quote)
So sorry Kim, you are right, have to remember all of the good times, always think about them
Simon(Quote)
Good goal. Hope Boro come up. Better to have all three clubs in PL. Although one of us could be going in the other direction…
Stuart79(Quote)
MM, STU, Jill, many thanks.
Jill, that’s the poem I picked, simple but says it all from my dads point of view.
Stu, Yeah she had a good and mostly happy life up until 7 years ago and had 67 years with the love of her life and not many get that.
kimtoon(Quote)
All the best Kim. Been there.
premandup(Quote)
Agree Simon.
kimtoon(Quote)
Cheers Prem.
So will we win tomorrow? I hope so, would be great to have a hat trick of NE teams again.
kimtoon(Quote)
What’s this I hear? No end of season awards party??? And no summer party??? Well I can assure you of one thing my friends. The Annual Blog Hobbit Awards Night will go on as planned!! Harrumph!
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I’m particularly excited by a new award being given out this year. It’s the Biggest Knob Currently Employed by Newcastle United Award. Beautiful.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Who is in contention for BKCEBNU? Well you’ll just have to wait in suspense to find out. won’t you?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
No summer party either? This is bordering on madness. What is Lee Charnley going to do without a summer party to get sozzled at? He likes to pinch some of the silverware as well. It’s just heartbreaking news for Lee. 😥
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Sorry to hear of your loss Kim.
It’s going to be tough for you over the next few weeks with your dad needing some support and Lewis needing a lot of your time. Stay strong.
sidekick(Quote)