281 thoughts on “Taking the Positives, The costs of a free speech

  1. Ice, you would think they’d be wanting to get a coach in before that date wouldn’t you? Preferably one better than Carver or McClaren…

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  2. STUART I was hoping they expect a answer from whoever by then that’s why they have extended it,wishful thinking on my part

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  3. Sorry Ice – wishful thinking it is.
    The season ticket renewal date was extended for two weeks last year due to thousands not renewing by the end of May deadline.
    More than likely extended this year for the same reason.

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  4. On FIFA: this investigation must have been going on for years in the US. I had a stockbroker license for 15 years and the rules are very strict – you have to report suspicious activity or you will go to jail and your boss will go to jail and the company will get massive fines. Suspicious activity are things like making deposits over $10k and receiving large deposits from non-US nationals who you did not have a prior relationship with. The FBI has obviously been building its case for years. Now the question is whether Blatter should be fired and Russia and Qatar stripped of the World Cup. I say yes. Move them to the US, England or Germany – the infrastructure is already in place.

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  5. The other thing is that there is a whole branch of the Federal Government dedicated to anti-money laundering with extremely sweeping powers after the World Trade Centre disaster. This is very serious for FIFA.

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  6. Ice , the season tickets will go on general sale from 13 June, available in all areas like last year, then after two more weeks of trying to sell them the club will announce the appointment of Carver as the new head coach.

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  7. Prem @232: not much quality on that list. Have you noticed that of the people supposedly on our “shortlist” they all have one thing in common – no compensation payments. McClaren, Carver, Laudrup, Garde all available for free. Fatty says he is changing his ways but he is still a tat merchant at heart and wants bargains. I expect our transfer policy to be the same although I do expect a bit more money to be available.

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  8. Back to my favourite subject. I have many platonic girl-friends and they all tell me that there is nothing much worse in romance than someone who tries TOO hard. This is the same with Carver, he just appears desperate and the players must see that and the vibe runs through the team. Him working so damn hard and it ruining his social life are the other signs of desperation – you have to keep your cool man, but you were never cool.

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  9. I suggest no one renews their ST until a coach is named and if it’s Carver then vote with your feet. Don’t buy shirts until Wonga are gone and ambition is shown. The fans have the power and the protest have worked as I believe they played a major part in Jabba doing that PR stunt.

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  10. Kim, they could end up playing in an empty stadium if that happens. West Ham and Sunderland are sure to work faster than us and we will be left with a choice of Carver or McClaren. Oh the joy!!!

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  11. As impatient as it might be, I am started to get the feeling supporters are getting anxious and annoyed that nothing has happened. Rightly or wrongly.

    I think it’s probably the fact that even the journo’s are struggling to find anything to write about and this gives the impression that nothing is happening. In fairness nobody can blame us as the club do have a lot to do to improve their reputation of utter failure in most of what they do.

    Still think a statement of some kind would be a good idea as we are only one bad decision away from going back to a powder keg type situation.

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  12. Article from Chronicle today and can someone explain the following sentance:

    Insiders at St James’ Park expected a decision on the head coach appointment one way or another by the end of this week, but Newcastle’s woeful run of form has resulted in a rethink

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  13. Stuart @241: That’s easy. NUFC board wanted Carver to prove himself after they had offered the job to McClaren and he wanted to wait. After Carver’s dismal performance and McClaren declining the job again when Derby were out of the playoffs they had to have a rethink in terms of quality and character of coach/manager they should hire.

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  14. However Stuart: Carver and McClaren should never have been front-runners in the first place. They should have had alternative plans in place and should not be scrambling around after 5 months of failure.

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  15. Stuart: you know the Chronicle’s new favourite term is “not fit for purpose”. That should apply to Carver and his good friend Lee Ryder also. They should start using the phrase “dereliction of duty” to describe Charnley and Carr’s manager search.

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  16. There’s another thing how the hell is Ryder a sports writer I wouldn’t let him write in womans own ffs

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  17. In fairness I think the whole Ryder loves Carver things a bit over board. He reports what Carver says and that means some don’t like him. Ryder has wrote some pretty scathing articles about the club recently, like the rest of them.

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  18. If it is true that McClaren turned us down when Derby were out of the playoffs, and in our hour of need, then he doesn’t have the balls to be our manager. He should be stricken from the “shortlist”. This is a high stress job as shown by Carvers implosion (although Carvs is an idiot and any real pressure would have seen his true colours displayed anyway, as in at Southampton).

    That these 2 are even being considered shows how inept our upper management is.

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  19. Don’t rate Ryder,and when you hear him talk he droles and seems brainless just IMO like,bet his Mrs keeps nodding off

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  20. Ice@240, Nah mate, I’m really fed up now. Went back in the docs yesterday to make sure they marked my referral urgent like he promised and yes they emailed ortho pods on the 15th. Still no news yet. Car sits un driven and I worked out I’m spending around £60- 80 a week on taxi’s and buses as there is no bus that goes to dads from mine and it’s all uphill to attempt to walk it . 🙄 I go to Dads every day always have, especially at the moment with him being so upset like. Every time we visit the Chapel of rest it needs a wheelchair taxi for him too, more money. If my knee wasn’t buggered I could walk him there 🙁 Mum’s funeral is Tuesday but Hazel is around to run me around that day thank god. It’s very painful today cause I pushed dad down a small hill to the bank and back again yesterday, used his wheelchair like a walker 😆 thought I did ok but suffering today. 🙁

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  21. You are kidding about Ryder, Stuart? Up until about 2 weeks ago he was Carver’s biggest chearleader. Also, his writing style is pure John Gibson, even after 20 years. I know Gibbo and Alan Oliver were his mentors and this might be what The Chronic want but at least develop some sort of style after 20 years. Even with all that has gone on with social media and Youtube, Lee Ryder just trots out the same stuff in the way it was done 30 years ago. I suppose you could say he is a reporter rather than a journalist. Every article is the same, in the same Gibbo format, with no thought put into it.

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  22. KIM IMO its about time luck went your way for a change ffs
    Toon retained list out in next 24hrs,storey is Jonas is not on it 🙁

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  23. Bloggers on here could form and write a better opinion than Ryder imo. I find his writing very lazy and he never seems to be in the know or ask the big questions.

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  24. Ice, Typical, bloke saves our skin and is one of the few to give a **** every game, so you let him go. YCMIU. Twats 🙁

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  25. No, Eric, I think he gets a bit of unwarranted stick, but which journo’s don’t…

    They have a thankful job. If they write something, people don’t believe it and if they don’t write something they’re **** and don’t have any contacts…

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  26. One thing that does get on my **** about Ryder is that he only ever seems to reply to people on Twitter who have a go at him. Not very often to people who genuinely want to interact. Douglas, Caulkin and Wilson all reply if they can.

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  27. Ryder can crank out the same Gibbo stuff for the required “column inches” from his Chronicle overlords. But, every week or so he should write something interesting asking a few questions, he is chief sports writer FFS. As I have said before, he should look at what Barney Ronay does at The Guardian to see what a real football writer is.

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  28. Stuart: have you ever watched The Chronicle webcasts from their offices. You might as well super-impose Ryders head on Gibbo’s because they are the same. Same with the writing styles.

    However, I might get Gibson’s book purely because I am a NUFC fan and he was close to the club for 40 or 50 years. His writing was so banal, as is Ryders.

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  29. I have to say that I’m wondering if all the journo’s have gone on holiday actually. There’s nothing at all coming from any of them.

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  30. Stuart and Kimtoon: I have had a bee in my bonnet about Ryder for years because he seems like a coward. Probably some people on here know him and will tell me he is not. I just see so many similarities between him and Carvs and I hate his writing style.

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  31. If they are on hols they will be kicking themselves with all this FIFA stuff kicking off. Plenty of column inches to be had there like.

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  32. Is this going to turn into a tirade laden week of abuse towards Ryder, Eric? Giving Carver some rest bite.

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  33. Eric, He was a on a short guest slot on 5live a year or so back, forget what it was about, some crisis or other with the Toon . Anyway every question he gave an answer to was lazy and nothing we didn’t already know plus he kept laughing and was a bit slurred. I swear he was half cut or half asleep. It was just embarrassing to listen to, like some idiot had got on the other end of the phone, terribly unprofessional and amateur from start to finish.

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  34. Stuart: I am done now with Ryder. Lazy journalist, Gibbo mentored, bad writer. That says about all I need to. I will keep my ire for the board, whoever they are 🙂

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  35. And Stuart: Carver does not need respite from me, he needs respite from his apologists like Ryder and Troy who have encouraged and welcomed his sh!tness. Bowing to his excuses and ignoring the fact he made a fool of himself in every press conference with his bizarre statements. When you see a gross incompetent like Carvs and Ryder it is best to wave goodbye. I have been right about them all along.

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  36. I’d like us to go after Richards but think his wages may be an issue. If we don’t get him, then I think we should go for Karl Jenkinson from Arsenal.
    I think he’d be a good back up RB who could also cover CB. I think his chances at Arsenal are all but over with Debuchy, Bellerin as RB and Callum Chamberlain who can cover RB & CB.

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  37. Dont understand why some rate Laudrup but not McClaren, if his name was Van or de Claren, he would get more hype lol. Id also take Ranieri, Jokanovic or Warburton if we just to go for out of contract manager

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  38. Realisticly I want Carroll and Austin as new strikers, one of Kara, Vlaar, Richards and Van Dijk as CB and go for James Tavernier(RB/RM) and Ben Pringle (LM, CM, AM, RM) who is free agent. Need to get rid of Gouffran Obertan Riviere Cabella Willo and bring back Vuckic.

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  39. If anybody wants an article publishing, either log in and write a draft, or let me or Dave know and we’ll post it. Toonsy has bumped me up to admin now, so I’ll have a good explore behind the scenes in the morning and try to relieve the pressure on Big Dave and Toonsy by helping to get articles up in good time. Please can I encourage anybody to have a go at writing. The more opinions and topics put forward the better. We have some really good contributors to the banter here and no doubt many of the non writers here could do a cracking article. Likewise, any past contributors just casually browsing the site these days – if you still fancy doing a bit of writing from time to time then let us know or simply log in and save a draft 🙂

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  40. Psychs @273

    Hahaha. 😀

    YCMIU 😉

    You never saw me praise Carver. All I’ve done is criticise you for writing him off after 90 mins into his toon management with ridiculous obsessive nonsensical rants. They’ve continued incessantly for months. 😉

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  41. Prem

    I take it you have dismissed Chris G’s constant rebuttal that the £34m profit is wrong and his calcs show it’s more like £22m. 😯

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  42. Troy Chris G’s complaint is valid. By his math we had about 18 + the 9 from January sales. Don’t remember buying anyone.That would be £27 but how the TV money is paid will also determine the available cash. Is it paid up front, at the end of the season. Or is it split, paid by direct debit or in brown envelopes, no idea. Never found a ref. So how much cash is available today I have no idea,
    Ref theads 101, 103 and 119 in case anybody has the slightest interest in what Troy is talking about. 🙂

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  43. Troysta @278: Whilst I admit I have gone on rants about Carvs they were not nonsensical and were proved fully justified. I didn’t want him from the start (unlike you) and it took me less than 90 seconds to know he was not the right choice. You, on the other hand, took more than 90 days and had to see the worst record in the PL before you changed your mind. YCMIU.

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