So it’s off the Etihad Stadium where once again my expectations are dragging along the floor somewhere and all I ask for, like last week, is effort, application and commitment. If we manage that then, again like last week, we may find ourselves pleasantly surprised.
I don’t want to delve into recent history too much as I’ll cover that later on but suffice to say it’s been woeful against Manchester City. We can put up fights against Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal yet for some unknown reason we always seem to just roll over for City and with the talent an oil baron can fill a football team with that isn’t a good combination.
But Manuel Pellegrini’s are not proving to be infallible. They started off the season like a dog out the traps but they have hit a rocky patch in recent weeks and haven;t exactly set the house on fire in the Champions League. Not that the Champions League bothers us, or is likely to bother us, anytime soon!
Manchester City:
Yaya Toure, Vincent Kompany, Samir Nasri, Gael Clichy and Fabian Delph are all absent through various injuries for the home side. However it’s not all bad news as Wilfried Bony, Kelechi Iheanacho and Eliaquim Mangala are expected to return to the side following recent spells on the sidelines.
Newcastle:
Jack Colback is nursing a calf injury and may be forced to sit this one out. Cheik Tiote could cover for him after a return to fitness.
Gabriel Obertan, Rolando Aarons and Massadio Haidara are all out so Kevin Mbabu is likely to earn a second Premier League appearance following an impressive debut last weekend. Steven Taylor, Paul Dummett, Emmanuel Riviere and Sylvain Marveaux are also out although the latter is edging closer to a return to fitness after some reserve appearances.
Previously…
You have to go back to February 2001 to locate our last league victory at Manchester City – a 1-0 win courtesy of an Alan Shearer goal – and we’ve failed to even draw since the 2006/2007 season. Having said that we did win in the League Cup there last season but our last three trips to the Etihad have seen us lose 4-0 twice and 5-0 on the other occasion.
There have been 164 matches between the two sides in all competitions and the record is pretty even to be fair with United just edging it with 67 wins compared to 61 for City.
Stats and facts…
Newcastle are the only side in the entire football league not to have scored a goal away from home this season.
United need to win today to avoid our worst ever start to the season in the Premier League era.
Manchester City have lost successive league games, having previously won a club record 11 matches in a row. They last lost three consecutive league matches back in November 2008.
City are unbeaten in 17 league meetings with Newcastle (W15, D2), their longest-ever run without defeat against a single opponent in the Premier League.
Final thought…
Hope is in short supply from me today and I fear the worst. City can tear any team apart on their day let alone a team that is still trying to find out if it has legs let alone finding its feet. I suspect we’ll be discussing another defeat come the full-time whistle, and with an international break to ponder it over following the game the mood looks unlikely to improve.
Team news:
Manchester City: Joe Hart, Pablo Zabaleta, Nicolas Otamendi, Eliaquim Mangala, Aleksandar Kolarov, Fernando, Fernandinho, David Silva, Raheem Sterling, Kevin De Bruyne, Sergio Aguero
Subs: Willy Caballero, Martin Demichelis, Bacary Sagna, Manuel Garcia, Jesus Navas, Wifried Bony, Kelechi Iheanacho
Newcastle: Tim Krul, Daryl Janmaat, Chancel Mbemba, Fabricio Coloccini, Kevin Mbabu, Moussa Sissoko, Yoan Gouffran, Vurnon Anita, Gerginio Wijnaldum, Ayoze Perez, Aleksandar Mitrovic
Subs: Rob Elliot, Jamaal Lascelles, Mike Williamson, Cheik Tiote, Florian Thauvin, Siem de Jong, Papiss Cissé
so international break, then the next 4 matches will determine our future imho
Anything less than 10 points and relegation is a certainty.
We are NOT a PREMIER league team and are undeserving of our place at the top table of football.
Feel sorry for the paying fans.
Total and utter tripe served up by the muppets ruining the club.
Its been coming for a few years now.
Pathetic.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
The good news is that the game finished in Chicago at 11am. The pub undercharged me so I had 4 pints for $10.
On the way home, I stopped at the local square and they had an apple pie festival so I got pie for free. Then went to the local bar. I live in a German area of Chicago and the first Stein was free for Oktoberfest.
Next door was a jeweller that changed my watch strap for free as well.
**** NUFC, I want free beer, strudel and watch strap changes on Saturday mornings from now on.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
BB, cheers, missed him coming off as I decided to clean the fish tanks by then. I have not been impressed with a lot of his displays tbh, probably was scared of getting injured and missing the France game 🙄
kimtoon(Quote)
Eric, Is your nickname lucky per chance 😉
kimtoon(Quote)
Kimtoon @154: No. I would have traded the free stuff in for a draw.
I was sitting in the bar with the Chicago Toon fans, one went out for a smoke at 1-1 and came back at 1-4. Then we all ended up talking about our other favourite team, the Chicago Cubs who have won nowt since 1908. Lucky 🙂 Yeah, right 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Kim – I dont think he did come off though.
It just looked like he wanted out.
Like I said, no heart for the fight
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Oh *****: I forgot to mention that:
1. There is a fan from Chicago who gets free airline tickets because he works for United Airlines. Last ticket he used was to see Swansea. He went to see today’s match as well 🙂 I think he should go to Paris or Rome from now on 🙂
2. I don’t know if any of you know about American sports but the fans are always good natured even when there is a big rivalry. Well, I was talking to one of the Chicago NUFC fans today and was laughing because he said one of the Chelsea fans last week wanted to take his mate outside for a fight for saying most of the Chelsea fans in the US were glory hunters.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
our away record in 2015 is amazing
13 matches played so far
1 win, 2 draws and 10 defeats
6 goals scored and 29 conceded
truly awful
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
U18s:
Youngsters lose again
Newcastle U18s 0 Blackburn U18s 2
Having conceded eleven goals during three successive defeats, Newcastle’s U18 side lost again at Little Benton on Saturday.
Blackburn Rovers became the latest side to inflict defeat on Dave Watson’s Academy side.
Mike Ashley is building a club to be proud of. 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Back to reality then. Flattered last week by a Chelsea team in crisis, who lost again, 3-1 at home to Southampton today. We need 2-3 wins in the next four just to catch up. Against the likes of Norwich, Stoke etc. But the problem is, we aren’t beating these teams! In the last couple of years we’ve had a Burnley or a QPR who we have relied on as being even s###er that us. This season, we are that team! The unwashed nearly got their first win today but couldn’t hang on, thank god for that. phew. 😆
DJG(Quote)
Face like a smacked **** today. 😮
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34435862
DJG(Quote)
Beardsley Boots keep faith. Mike Ashley isn’t going anywhere till his won something. I’ll be be dead by then but maybe you might experience us lifting a trophy.
Terry(Quote)
Losing today was obvious but I can’t see us staying up. There is no light at the end of the tunnel G2 and we have Mike Ashley to thank for it. Maybe losing should be all the rage then no-one will be disappointed ?
Terry(Quote)
Troy keep faith and remember we still have Mike Ashley.
Terry(Quote)
Eric – I’m amazed you think we will even stay up. Where’s that confidence come from?
Stuart79(Quote)
Stuart: I don’t think I said we would stay up, I am about 50/50 on that at the moment. What I am seeing is the same thing as under Pardew and Carver where if we go down a goal we capitulate. City are a good team and for 10 minutes after half time everything they touched went in. That is probably a combination of their skill, luck and our defense being ****.
I was very worried that Steve chose Gouffran as a holding midfielder. That was a shot in the dark and makes you wonder if he knows what he is doing.
The more things change the more they stay the same at NUFC.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I think we’ll stay up…just. New teams having a stormer will start dropping points.
But we’ve been here before. Ashley’s penny pinching makes it hard to get the right players…
For all his spending, it wasn’t to make us decent, it was to make his buys profitable. We could of spent less for better but they went against our profit-based policies. 👿
Gashley(Quote)
Perhaps Ashley deserves relegation, the fans don’t but his mis-management is shocking. He deserves all the flak.
Giving Colo an extension was typical of tight fisted ashley. Not to get a play-maker in the middle was naive. Not to sign another forward is suicidal..
We need to start paying the price for experienced English players. Look at Saha compared to 13mil Thauvin 😳
Gashley(Quote)
I said before the start of the season that being NUFC fans we always set our sights on strikers. Fair enough if other areas are not neglected. We have ignored the back four except for Mbemba and defensive midfield. We do need at least one big man in defensive midfield but we must have the smallest DMs in the league.
There is talk today that we are still interested in Austin. That might help us to lose 6-3 instead of 6 -1. If we can strengthen the defence and still afford Austin, fine, but the defence has to be the priority. Janmaat gets the MOM for his attacking but he is a poor defender. Good teams are built from the back.
Groucho(Quote)
@groucho
Of course there’s talk we’re interested in Austin. He’ll be 6-7 mil cheaper in Jan 👿 that’s no excuse tho, there were plenty of other players we could of signed but didn’t.
Gashley(Quote)
Mark Douglas at The Chronicle now says we should sell Sissoko for anything over 7 mil and that it was a mistake to extend Coloccini’s contract. No **** Sherlock. I wonder if he thought this in the summer and wasn’t allowed to write it by Lee Ryder or the powers that be for fear of upsetting NUFC or if he just arrived at these conclusions. The Chronic journalists are now crawling out from under their rocks and demanding some action/answers. 2 points from 8 games and 5 goals in 16 minutes will do that.
We all knew that we had a tough start but this is getting ridiculous. I expected between 5 and 8 points and thought I would be accused of being negative for that (Hello Lionel Speed).
I think the Troysta might even bring forward his sack McClaren schedule after yesterday. Nah, he will wait and see if we get beat by the Mackems for maximum impact 🙂
I am not calling for Steve’s head but I will if I see Gouffran in midfield again:)
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-desperate-times-call-10189854?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Also, can somebody explain what happened. I was in a bar and had 2 pints of Calsberg by the time the 3rd went in. I obviously wasn’t drunk but I was in a daze after that and was only watching halfheartedly and talking to 2 NUFC lads and the barmaid. I recorded it but quickly deleted it to make sure I don’t have more Aguoro related nightmares. I then ignored the rest of the game, had one more pint so I didn’t black out or anything.
Seriously, what happened?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – the best playmaker in the world and probably the best striker in the world took us apart in 15 mins. Apart from that it wasn’t too bad. 😀
georgio(Quote)
Aguero was the difference yesterday,,unplayable, world class and hiding the fact that Cities back line were poor and there for the taking. Such a pity we didn’t take our chances better when we were in the ascendancy .
kimtoon(Quote)
Glad to see you’re not a despondent as some Kim. It’s not great I know only too well but SBR’s team got thrashed at SJP 6-2 when they finished 3rd.
Of the first 8 games I expected nowt from 6 of them anyway so we’re not too far off what I expected. The trouble will really start if we don’t get at least 7 points from the next 4.
georgio(Quote)
Neil Warnock questioning our transfer policy on goals on sunday. Reckons we are recruiting from the next level down in the French League as opposed to the previous players we aimed for like Cabaye and Debuchy.
kimtoon(Quote)
Having calmed down a bit I feel ready to post again. Yesterday was not down to McClaren, and certainly had nowt to do with his half time team talk.
I said before the game that I was hoping to see a similar performance to that of the Chelsea game – and I think we got it in the first half for sure. It confirmed that 2 up front is a must for us. Disappointing to concede just before half time, but not the end of the world, and lots of positives.
I posted during half time saying it was important not to concede another straight away, and boy did they ignore that!!. Take nothing away from Aguero – he is the best finisher in the world IMO. But that second half just confirmed 2 things for me again;
1). You need a strong leader & Captain – Colo is not that man.
2). You need experience & some older heads in that side.
McClaren can only do so much, but once those players cross the white line the captain has to step up. They just completely lost it for about 20mins and did not know how to handle City. We were like a bunch of school kids and City went on a rampage.
I wasn’t expecting a win, but the first half was promising. The second half however could be a real phycological blow.
Norwich & Sunderland are now huge games IMO.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Georgio, our start is exactly what I thought with the exception of the Watford game where I thought we’d get 3 points. I was expecting around 3-4 points now at best tbh. The £50m spent is nothing to shout about as every penny of that was long over due and we failed to address our defensive situation properly imo. We should of got a beast of a CM player who could control our mid and cause havoc and take a decent set piece too . Our best buy is Mitro because of his physicality up front and in defence. Mbemba looks promising at times and young mbabu can only get better. We have to forget yesterday, City are a team full of stars but they were vulnerable at the back yesterday and if we had more confidence I feel we would of gotten something more first half, but really with their front three it’s a big ask.
We MUST beat Norwich and defo the Scum or I fear the worst.
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – Warnock is full of ****. Gini, Mbemba and Mitrovic are all quality players (Thauvin still to prove himself). The fault with our transfer policy is we recruit kids. You need players late 20s early 30s in your side to have that experience. We desperately lack a leader on the pitch – someone with Kevin Nolans character. Someone who will get a grip and lift the players back up.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I said on Friday no way should we play Siko,his mind is only on the French team,I have never rated him apart from his first ever game he’s done sweet fanny adams
icedog(Quote)
So **** has left the Scum
Sharpy17(Quote)
I bet Mc has woke up a relief bunny this morning – all the talk about Jose & Chelsea. Now **** has done a bunk too – phew!!
Sharpy17(Quote)
Ice – I’m in agreement now about Sissoko. He seems to have little heart for the fight.
Sharpy – don’t know if it’s a leader we need. We really lack a midfield general type, one with the experience to slow play down and get control.
georgio(Quote)
SHARPY just our luck new manager in when they play us
icedog(Quote)
Sharpy, He makes a fair point though, we are going for unproven young kids that may or may not come off with the experience supposedly coming from Gini and De Jong. We lack any quality PL experienced players outside of what we already had and extending Colo’s contract was a real mistake and the cheap option. Our failure to address what has been glaringly obvious for the last few seasons means we’ll get what we deserve, Or rather Mike will. They say they are going to look at and reassess our transfer policy and age restrictions in January but frankly I’m pretty sure it will be way too late by then.
It’s pointless blaming Steve, him and Pards are pretty much cut from the same cloth but one is a gobshite that’s all. In the end you need the right tools and balance in the team to make it work. At this moment in time we are still broken, it’s partly mended but far from fixed .
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – just further to Warnocks comments. It’s not the new signings that are letting us down – it’s the likes of Colo, Sissoko and Cisse that are letting us down. He mentions Debuchy, I personally think Janmaat is a better player.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sick of facing the Scum with a new manager starting his honeymoon period ffs. Watch us gift them 6 points this season again, and you can bet it will be them 6 that save em. 👿
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – I could take his point if he’s saying we should be getting players with PL experience or British players – but his examples are Debuchy & Cabaye – both signed from France. His point is boring and he’s just repeating what others are saying. We have signed quality players, but we need experienced players, but that’s not what he said.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy. In truth both Debs and Janmaat are poor defenders ,but great going forward 🙄 much of a muchness for me, tho if pushed, yep maybe Janmaat just shades it at this present time.
kimtoon(Quote)
GEORGIO nail on the head mate we have been missing a midfield general for a long time its alright having.flair players in the midfield but you need a grafter/ball winner that can hold the midfield and play the ball to the flair players to do their job
icedog(Quote)
Ice – they are still paying Di Canio and Poyet, not sure about Dicks settlement. But that would suggest to me they will be looking at out of work managers – my money is on Nigel Pearson. But whoever comes in will defo see the Derby as their chance to turn things round.
Sharpy17(Quote)
[email protected] might add he has a much better attitude towards the club imo
icedog(Quote)
You’re right Sharpy – Colo, sissoko – where are they when the goals start flowing in. I can’t recall anything either of them did yesterday in contrast to Mbabu, Mitrovic and Perez. Mind you picking Gouffran for midfield was stupid as was letting Abeid go.
georgio(Quote)
Could be Allardyce 🙄
georgio(Quote)
SHARPY@191 that’s who I tipped for the job,one storeys goes they have already talked,but some rags are calling big Sam for the job,trouble with big Sam he brings a army of men with him which sacks the wage bill up
icedog(Quote)
Georgio – I agree mate. I know he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea, and it’s not building for the future, but someone like Michael Carrick is the type of player we are missing. I’m pretty sure a lot will say Cabaye, and yes I’d have to agree with that too. My personal favourite would be Jonjo Shelvey.
Colo is a big issue for me at the moment though. As a captain he offers nothing, and as a CB he offers little more. He was out of position so many times yesterday and that (IMO) was the reason for at least 3 of the goals yesterday.
Sharpy17(Quote)
WACKS
icedog(Quote)
Ice@190, That was my point @178 mate, a beast of a cm player was what was required plus defensive and forward positions.
kimtoon(Quote)
Sam played for the Scum didn’t he?. Could be him as he comes with the reputation of keeping teams in the PL.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Ice, yep you are right about attitude mate, both Cabs and Debs stank in regards how they angled for their moves and saw us purely as a stepping stone. It’s the same with Sissoko now but we have to look at our recruitment policy in that regard. If we are actively selling the club as a stepping stone then we can’t complain I suppose.
kimtoon(Quote)
Sharpy , yeah he did mate.
kimtoon(Quote)
Georgio – I thought Gouffran looked completely lost in that central midfield role. He put a shift in, but he didn’t seem to have a clue positionally and nobody really kept him right. We got away with it in the first half, but they exposed our soft centre in the second half – he and Colo were chasing shadows.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy, Goofy has a good engine but he’s no CM, very strange decision by Steve that for me.
kimtoon(Quote)
Debuchy not the finished article by any means but far better than Janmaat IMO. Didn’t keep a count but got the impression that most of the goals yesterday(not all) started off from Man City’s left. Unfortunately, I have deleted my recording of MOTD so cannot check this. Debuchy, by the way, although small was rarely beaten in the air.
Groucho(Quote)
Kim – his selection wasn’t too odd but where he played him certainly was. It would have made more sense dropping Sissoko further back and playing Goof in a more advanced role. Sissoko isn’t really convincing me in that more advanced position at all – he spent a lot of time on the left flank as well, which was puzzling.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I agree @186. No guts, no leadership. I also blame the board for not clearing out dead wood and replacing with either promising young UK nationals or experienced older players.
Shamrock(Quote)
Sharpy – If you don’t think it’s the coach’s job to I still spirit, organisation and determination in his squad then maybe team sports isn’t for you. The way we capitulated yesterday wasn’t down to quality or lack of it, it was down to a team with absolutely no spirit or determination. Lower league teams have gone there and don’t concede 6 and certainly not in the space of 15 mins. This is not a one off. We collapsed against West Ham, Watford and Swansea. We maybe didn’t concede the amount of goals in them games but once we conceded first the heads dropped and we looked so far from getting anything from them games as it’s possible to be. That is the coaches responsibility. I understand why you won’t admit it is as you’ve championed him since he got the job but in reality he’s been a failure at his last 4 jobs so why would he be a success here?
Stuart79(Quote)
I’d also like to add that McClaren knew what the transfer strategy was before he took the job so he can’t point to that as an excuse and nor can we use it as one on his behalf.
Stuart79(Quote)
My take on the City goals:
Goal 1 – everyone ball watching
Goal 2 – Colo gives Aguero far too much time & space
Goal 3 – Colo miles out of position – in the centre circle!!
Goal 4 – City exploit the change at LB and Colo out of position again IMO.
Goal 5 – Mbemba doesn’t get tight enough to Aguero
Goal 6 – IMO one of the CBs needs to be deeper – obvious the ball is coming across the box. Either being 5yds closer to goal and they stop the ball getting to Aguero.
IMO the whole team were at fault as they didn’t close City down. City have class players but we allowed them far too much time on the ball to pick their passes.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I also hold McC to account and am not convinced he’s the man for the job. But I also think it’s not just one thing that’s responsible for the mess we are in, but a combination of them. What I do not blame is the new players, who on the whole have improved us.
http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/10/contract-clause-for-remy-cabella-revealed-but-marseille-set-to-duck-out/
I see Cabella is still ***** in France then. And people thought he was given an unfair time by the likes of me. Waste of space lightweight with no heart. Same mould as Sissy Sissoko.
It’s crunch time for MA. He either needs to invest serious dough in a complete rehaul of the squad or sell up and **** off now before he completely loses his investment.
Shamrock(Quote)
Shamrock – His attitude to transfers isn’t going to change. Everything he does is either with an eye on value or with eye on making a profit. Even if he went on a spending spree we would still buy young kids with no experience and more often than not no fight or determination. Partly because of their age and also their culture. It stinks!
Stuart79(Quote)
Yes it does Stu. He would rather have players sat in the reserves on good money than take the hit on their value and replace them with players that can actually bring something to the squad.
To think we could have had Abdennour and Austin if we just pulled ourfinger out… Instead we have a Crocker Saylor, past it Colo and forgotten Willo taking up valuable squad places. And this after almost going down last season. Sickening.
As for McC saying he’d like to build a team around Sissy. A man that has given us nothing and constantly whined about leaving and shown no passion, leadership, desire or abity for us. Is that the vision McC has for us? Really? Wtf.
Shamrock(Quote)
Stu – I’ve played team sports and individual sports from a young age thank you mate, and competed at a decent level at both.
The manager is responsible for the organisation of the team for sure, but can only encourage that spirit and determination – that’s down to the individual themselves. He can stand on the side lines and shout instructions, but ultimately it’s down to the players, and the captain when they are on that pitch. It was there against Chelsea & in the first half yesterday – but in the 2nd half & particularly that first 20mins, you can see the team as a whole aren’t closing down or trying to get back into the game. They desperately needed a leader on the pitch to try and get to grips with things.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Just reading about Advocat leaving. It says Scum have failed to win in 8 games….
The article closes with this: ‘North-east rivals Newcastle are the only team below them in the Premier League table.’
How appauling is that? Below a side that has not won in 8 games! We are over a fifth through the season and only have 3 points cumulative. Shocking. There is already clear daylight in the form of 5 points between us and 17th placed West Brom. That’s 2 wins unanswered by teams in better form than us. No easy task. Do we have the quality and determination to catch up with them? I doubt it.
Shamrock(Quote)
Sham – I think that is/was his vision, but to be fair to Mc he was critical of Sissoko and has said he isn’t playing well enough.
Sharpy17(Quote)
He has never played well enough. How can you look at him and think ‘that’s a guy to build a squad around’. A guy that constantly underperforms, goes missing and bleats about leaving for ‘bigger ‘ clubs. What kind of message does that send to the squad?
Mc does have to take a big slice of the blame along with other factors. He made his bed and some of his decisions have been very questionable so far, including throwing his weight behind Colo.
Shamrock(Quote)
Sharpy you will be doing well if you can find someone who, like you doesn’t believe that determination, spirit and togethness isn’t the responsibility of the coach/manager. People like Pulis are always lauded for bringing that sort of thing to a team.
But let’s take your organisational argument – were shambolic! Who’s responsible for that then? We have 3 points from 8 games and haven’t won a game with -11 goal difference. Does McClaren have any responsibility for that or are you going to protect him because you say he’s a good coach?
Stuart79(Quote)
Regarding lack of leadership on the pitch…. McC came in and backed Colo and Sissy to lead the team. I’ll say no more on the matter.
Shamrock(Quote)
Sham – It says everything that our club are the worst in the league yet our coach gets a vote of confidence. Amazing!
We will probably spend more money in Jan but it will be on young players who will not be use to the pressure of a relegation battle ore intensity of the PL
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – I’m not protecting him, and I’m not and have never said he is without blame. I am simply saying that the players are at fault too. You read the comments on here and most of the blame is put on the managers – and in that I include Pardew & Carver. Yet the players seem to get away with it with some posters.
I think Mc has been finding his best system, which was effected by Mitrovics ban. I think LB is still an issue for him and he’s messing round with the midfield. He’s probably settled on Mit & Perez up front, but still not fully settled with the rest of team – and that’s a worry.
I’m not saying he’s blameless, I’m simply saying that the players have to take some personal responsibility as well. Similar to Jose at Chelsea.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stu – we can change the manager again, I’m not bothered about Mc one way or another. My point is that the same players who didn’t perform for Pardew or Carver and the same players letting McClaren down.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Well they weren’t this bad under Pardew and he had no money to spend
Stuart79(Quote)
Dicks left Sunderland so they will probably appoint Alladyce and stay up. God knows how we get out of this ****!
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – don’t forget we didn’t win a game in the first 7 last season either – and it was only thanks to an Obertan goal against Leicester we won that 8th – not to mention how poor they were the 2nd half of the previous season. I’m not protecting anyone, but it’s not all down to McClaren in the same way it wasn’t all down to Pardew – they are just easy targets IMO.
What is pissing me off about Mc is these smiling post match interview. City are the best, we were hit by the Aguero Storm or whatever he said. No, we took our foot off and defended poorly.
We had half of football like that under Pardew too, where we totally fell apart and teams destroyed us in a 10-20min period when we were looking comfortable.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Its just a mess!
We’re completely ****** until Ashley decides to appoint a manager who has a decent pedigree and can have control over the club.
Stuart79(Quote)