NUFC heading into the new season in better shape than most think?

By Brian Rolfe

One of my old mentors used to say “It’s not whether your glass is half full or half empty that matters, it’s what you do with the contents.” Which is roughly the situation facing Rafa this season.

Last season we were sailing along too close for comfort to the drop with 29 pts from 28 games. Then in January in came Dubravka and Kenedy and suddenly 15 pts from 10 games. The consolidation of that team in itself is a positive step froward from this time last year. Whilst it is unreasonable to expect 1.5 pts per game throughout the season (57pts) the 44pts we totalled should be easily achievable. Or is it?

Looking at our starting 11 We have swapped Gayle for Muto. Whilst similar statistically, Muto’s workrate is significant. Rondon has better stats than Joselu off the bench and they were accumulated playing under Tony Pulis. The only other change is enforced by LeJeune being injured. Schar is similar in style but has to settle in quick or we will be relying on Clark. So the team that finished strongly is much the same quality. Not significantly improved. To label them as our championship team is somewhat disrespectful to the players we have.

The squad has however significantly improved. We have shipped out non players like Colback, Mitrovic & Mbemba, as well as Merino, Sels, Haidara, Gamez, Good, Findley and Armstrong. In have come Muto, Schar and Ki, with the Rondon deal done and PSG left-back Stanley N’Soki seeming likely.

So 10 out – who were not in Rafa’s plans – whilst the five in who should all get minutes. The kid’s, particularly Sean Longstaff, have chipped in too, so overall we have more depth than before. We just have Saivet and Lazaar to get rid of and the club will be in a much better place.

What about everybody else after all they have spent fortunes and have shown ambition, apparently. The three clubs above us have done little. Ben Gibson to Burnley will not transform them. Richarlison and Lucas Digne to Everton will give them a bit more balance; whilst Leicester have swapped Mahrez for James Maddison, not an upgrade. So I would argue that we have done as well as those three.

There were seven clubs below us that stayed up and only two of them have made wholesale changes, which of course holds risks in itself.

West Ham have a new manager and lots of new players, whilst Brighton have club record signing Jahanbakhsh, who was on my shopping list. I doubt that they will be at risk this season.

As to the rest, well Palace have hopefully replaced Cabaye who was a key player for them last season, Bournemouth have stood still, Watford have consolidated and Huddersfield have not strengthened up front. Southampton still have Mark Hughes and they hope to improve on their awful showing last season, but it’s hard to see where there optimism is coming from.

Which leaves the promoted teams. Wolves and Fulham have spent big to guarantee survival, whereas Cardiff haven’t.

So where does that leave us. Last season everybody except the top 6 and Burnley flirted with the relegation zone, and I kind of expect much the same this season.

Time for predictions. The top six will occupy the firsts six places in whatever order, I don’t care. Relegation favourites are Cardiff and Huddersfield, with Southampton, Bournemouth, Watford and Palace trying to avoid the third spot. Above those I see Wolves, Fulham and Leicester doing OK.  So my top ten teams are Everton, Brighton, Ourselves and either West Ham or Burnley, in whatever order.

So are we relegation candidates? probably not. Top ten, again? No reason why not.

By Brian Rolfe

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About Olly Hawkins

As a Junior Magpie since birth and season ticket holder, I eat, sleep and breathe all things NUFC! Here at the blog, I aim to bring you news, views, match reports and transfer exclusives as and when I get them.

167 thoughts on “NUFC heading into the new season in better shape than most think?

  1. Eric Sykes:
    Wolves supposedly buying a 25 million player bringing their total to 100 million. Similar at Fulham. On the face of it I didn’t really care if they got a player I had never heard of. However, if they really are upgrading their team and are going to be that much harder to beat it affects us a lot. We know we will pick up most of our points from the bottom 14 teams and the more teams like Everton, Wolves and Fulham upgrade the harder it will be. Everton were **** last year and still beat us twice so we will probably do better against them any

    Welcome to the party, Eric. What do you want to drink? I’ve been on my own for the last 2 months!

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  2. I haven’t looked at final figures but apart from Liverpool the big spenders look to be West Ham, Fulham, Wolves, Leicester and Everton. Those are our potential rivals and not the top 6. This is a big gamble by Ashley, especially with Lejeune injured. As soon as that happened we should have spent 20 million on a centre half as that was our strong point last year and could be a weakness now.

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  3. Stuart79: Welcome to the party, Eric. What do you want to drink? I’ve been on my own for the last 2 months!

    I think I have been level headed about it Stuart but always assuming that Ashley could not be so stupid as to at least reinvest the money for players sold. Apparently, he can be 🙂

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  4. Eric Sykes:
    I haven’t looked at final figures but apart from Liverpool the big spenders look to be West Ham, Fulham, Wolves, Leicester and Everton. Those are our potential rivals and not the top 6. This is a big gamble by Ashley, especially with Lejeune injured. As soon as that happened we should have spent 20 million on a centre half as that was our strong point last year and could be a weakness now.

    Add Southampton to that too. They’re spent nearly £60m.

    And Olly – can we sort this bloody issue out! I’m getting typers cramp every post

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  5. The papers will be giving out grades for the transfer window soon. Is there an F minus? The “F” is for fail but there should be a minus attached for taking away our hope.

    It has been pretty dismal. I thought they might relent slightly but then you see the business our rivals are doing and it makes it that much worse.

    Cannot see many happy campers on Tyneside at 5.01 tonight.

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  6. Stuart79: Add Southampton to that too. They’re spent nearly £60m.

    And Olly – can we sort this bloody issue out! I’m getting typers cramp every post

    They needed to more than us and they have Mark Hughes. It is another one of those years where we hope there are 3 worse teams. It is possible. Cardiff, Southampton, Watford, Huddersfield, Burnley, Brighton, Palace?

    Some have spent but we don’t know what they got.

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  7. What’s all these reports that Maia has turned down Watford because he wants to come here. Have we even bid for the lad? Is he another ‘well we tried but couldn’t get a work permit’?

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  8. Clutching at straws maybe, but we don’t know how these 20 million pound players will turn out. And 20 million seems like the new 10 million. Then there are the managers…

    Hughton was relegated at Norwich. Dyche was relegated at Burnley. Hughes sacked by Stoke. Silva relegated with Hull, sacked by Watford. Puel sacked by Southampton. Do I need to get into Warnock’s record? Mr. Roy can be good but can crack under pressure (Liverpool, England).

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  9. If we had been buying the raw Anderlecht MBemba and Mitro in this window they would have been 20 million each. There is no way we would accept offers of less than 25 million for Shelvey in this market.

    Yes, I am pissed off with us not even trying but I am also not sure what the other teams are getting for their money.

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  10. Apparently Rafa asked for Pieters and Klavan as defensive additions today and the club said no.

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  11. Net spend! West Ham £106 million more than us, Fulham £96, Wolves £92, Brighton £77, Huddersfield £60, Bournemouth £57 and Cardiff £56 million.

    I will leave that there.

    Site still not working !

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  12. Stuart79:
    Apparently Rafa asked for Pieters and Klavan as defensive additions today and the club said no.

    Reports Rafa seething and deeply unhappy, can see him walking Stu tbh, but that’s exactly what Mike wants, that’s quite clear now.

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  13. Eric, we should of been all over joe Bryan at that fee, absolute fuckhouse of a window this.

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  14. Jonas Gutierrez‏Verified account @elgalgojonas · 14 Apr 2016

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    Ashley , one thing, you dont understand newcastle, you dont understand The fans and The city. We deserved more. We are The geordie nation

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  15. Klavan and Pieters – no thanks anyway. Bryan will be lucky to get a game behind Sessegnon. Seems he’s moved for the money alone.
    Just wait – a lot of this massive spending spree by others will be money wasted with players signed on huge contracts and past their best or unable to adapt to the PL.
    Of course I’m disappointed by the lack of spend and the lack of an update on the likes of Perez, Dummett or cover for Shelvey but hey ho this is Ashley’s NUFC. 😡

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  16. Georgio
    Got to agree with you on players signed for huge fees , on huge salaries , and not being able to adapt to the Pl or indeed to the system played by their new team..
    Slimani is a good example ; £28m record signing for Leicester August 2016 on £80,000 per week and a five year contract.
    Loaned to us after 18 months and Leicester desperately trying to get him out on loan again this season.

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  17. Fernandez for £6m. That means the profit for this season is only £20m now.

    I have no idea about this lad but I’m assuming he’s low on Rafa’s list so don’t expect too much. But he’s a signing…

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  18. Very funny watching people on here trying desperately to come up with excuses for why clubs spending money is all wrong and won’t work. ?? It gives them a better chance of staying up than not spending money that’s for sure…

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  19. So probably Fernandez from a relegated team will be it for deadline day… ho hum… yawwn… ????

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  20. It’s crazy… this Thiago Maia seems to want to come… he’s Brazilian and 24. Gold medal winner from Olympic Brazil team… and £18million could buy him… the club could get the number 10 we want, break our transfer record, use up the profit, improve our teams creativity and appease Rafa all in one fell swoop by bringing him in…. but they will not do it. Unbelievable really.

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  21. Fernandez played for Rafa at Napoli so I think he’ll be pleased to have got him – at 29 he’s an unexpected addition but at £6m is nowt. He’s a decent player as well. One of Swans better players last season despite them going down – along with Ki ironically. I watched the Swansea game against Shef Utd the other night and he looked good. I think this is an upgrade on Mbemba.
    I’d still like another LB but Clark could cover if not.

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  22. Clark at LB Sharpy? He has a big problem wherever he plays – he doesn’t like having the ball!

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  23. I don’t think Centre half was a priority until Lejeune got injured. We are short at least 2 marquee signings – a number 10 and central midfielder. Obviously all of these new signings will not work out and some will be overpriced. But average teams in the PL have bought the best/star players from the average and above teams in other leagues because of their buying power. This will raise the general standard of the PL and we have probably stood still at best. Not good enough and bye bye Rafa.

    People sometimes scoff when the PL is portrayed as the best league in the world. Well, 45% of the players in The World Cup semi-finals were from Premier League teams.

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  24. Time for me to have another dig at Chris Waugh. He had his list of players to watch at the WC for NUFC and I ridiculed him on a few. Where are Rashford, RLC and Golovin Chris 🙂 And what is our net spend this window? Using Waugh maths probably plus 20 million rather than the real minus 20 million (he has repeated many times our net spend last summer was 46 million when in reality it was 20 million).

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  25. Meh, underwhelming window once again, all players bar Muto from relegated sides.
    Whilst I agree big money signings don’t guarantee success, it does show ambition and a desire to try and push on.
    More importantly is the lack of tangible evidence of backing for a world class coach, a coach who will surely be gone come may and likely followed by our class players.
    Lee Ryder said he understood cash was withheld because Rafa wouldn’t sign, that’s just spiteful and further evidence of how small minded and egotistical Ashley is and shows his total ignorance in football matters.

    Try to enjoy this season, it’s the last one under a top coach and once he goes it’s bleak times ahead.
    A crying shame how this owner carries on, making a mockery of ambition and a class coach that he really does not deserve.

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  26. Predictions:

    Man City
    Liverpool
    Man U
    Arsenal

    Man U have a good 1st 11 if Jose would cheer up and Arsenal have added good signings to Lacazette and Aubamayang.

    Bottom (could be 3 of about 10 including us):

    Southampton (Hughes factor)
    Huddersfield
    Cardiff

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  27. I thought Yedlin was a real threat down the right last season. Joe Bryan on the left would have given us the same threat as Yedlin and someone on that winger to put a decent ball into the box would be another supply to the threat of Rondons ariel ability in the box.

    To not have added that player is a real shame – but it’s certainly not the biggest shame of this window.

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  28. Im getting out of touch with our squad now, and football generally. Who are our back up full backs?

    Seem to have the same problem as last season – lack of creativity. Really badly needed a good #10. Going for about 12th this seasin, caveat being few injuries to key players. Lose the new striker and we are relying on Joselu? Dont know where the Korean or Japanese fella plays.

    There was a time I knew every PL player and most in top foreign leagues. Dont even know Newcastle squad now!

    Either I am getting to ild to keep up, or Im outgrowing football – probably because uts all about rolling around on the floor these days and MA makes it so dour to follow this club.

    Hekeeps going in about this unterest free loan he did us a favor on. But it has never been paid off despite the free SD advertising he uses SJP for. That should be 10m a season surely? Shouldnt that debt at least be cut un half by now? He has used as a front to steal money out if this club in my opinion. Why has the local rag not taken him to task on this?

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  29. Oh hell, I didn’t realise the window has closed – thought it was a late one!!.
    Everton have done some fantastic business this window – with another 3 top class players added today.
    If Silva can get it right and get them playing, I reckon they have the players to challenge the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd.

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  30. Somebody had a car accident so that means better not drive? ok keep walking you will get there. 😆

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  31. Fulham just splashed another £30m on one player. We shouldn’t be too bothered, after all these players others are buying are likely to be rubbish.

    I think I’m right in saying only Cardiff have a transfer reckons less than ours. That’s just in the PL. there’s clubs in Div 1 wither bigger… 😳

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  32. Reading the runes I think Ashley really wants to sell this time (I hope so) hence his wanting to gather in as much swag as he can before doing so. Mind you he likes gathering in the money that seems to be his only enjoyment in life. His parsimony in so far as NUFC is concerned may well back fire on him yet again if we are relegated yet again and this time a large number of fans will say enough is enough.

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  33. Perhaps with the benefit of hindsight it is a pity we transferred Mbemba given his proven versatility. Why we held onto Manquillo I’ll never understand except that he speaks Spanish as does Joselu. I don’t believe half the propaganda put out against Mbemba. None of it showed where it counts — on the pitch. Like Lejeune he was good on the ball which Clark is not. Sorry we didn’t go for Bryan. Dummett who played well as a defender last season has been absolutely awful in the preseason games. We have to hope he recovers his form and doesn’t get injured.

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  34. Groucho – We did go for Bryant but we wouldn’t pay the garagantuan fee of £6m for him. I can’t imagine many clubs were actually after Manquillo do you? As for Mbemba – he’s been in three years and he still can’t speak a word of English!

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  35. Two YouTube toon fans sat in the SSN studio complaining about lack of signings – one sat in a home Wonga kit, the other sat in the brand new away kit … oh the irony ?.

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  36. Well glad thats over!!! Kept onto lascelles. Are we all going to be negative all season or are we gana get behind the team coz its not the teams fault owa owner isnt interested. I for 1 will still go to games when a can and support NUFC like a have done for 20 years

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  37. Stuart79:
    Groucho – We did go for Bryant but we wouldn’t pay the garagantuan fee of £6m for him. I can’t imagine many clubs were actually after Manquillo do you? As for Mbemba – he’s been in three years and he still can’t speak a word of English!

    Stuart his not speaking English doesn’t really bother me if he performs on the pitch. I don’t suppose he speaks Portuguese either. Hasn’t bothered Porto. However if he doesn’t speak English how come he performed an opening ceremony of a youth pitch in the West of Newcastle? He also usesTwitter in English but I admit he might have a translator. There are so many foreign players now I suspect many are short on speaking English.

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  38. Groucho: Stuart his not speaking English doesn’t really bother me if he performs on the pitch. I don’t suppose he speaks Portuguese either. Hasn’t bothered Porto. However if he doesn’t speak English how come he performed an opening ceremony of a youth pitch in the West of Newcastle?He also usesTwitter in English but I admit he might have a translator. There are so many foreign players now I suspect many are short on speaking English.

    Groucho – it may not bother you, but it clearly bothers Rafa. He also clearly isn’t bothered about versatility coz he let Anita go for nowt – and he was a decent enough option as a full back and defensive midfielder – a squad player who could back up a number of positions if injuries and suspension hit, similar to Mbemba.
    He’s managed to bring Fernandez in, who I think was pretty high on his list (having worked with him at Napoli) but the £10m Swansea wanted was too much. They have dropped it to £6m coz they need him off their wage bill.

    I think he’s a good signing and a better option to Mbemba. But we still needed that LB – along with a quality #10 and CF.

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  39. When has rafa ever said he doesnt fancy mbemba because he doesnt speak english, with him only being here for 1 more year (rafa) hes just bought a Japanese guy who probs doesnt speak english (not sure).

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  40. We 100% needed a left back for cover but am sure kenedy can play there carnt he, when westbrom got relegated am sure few on here were sayin they would take rondon me included, perez done ok and muto plays no 10. Obvs a woulda loved a marquee signing but it is what it is

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  41. At the start of the window I thought we needed 5 in on top of what we ended with last season. We got 5 in, so I guess I can’t complain. Let’s just hope they turn out to be a decent set of 5.

    Maybe we could imagine their transfer fees were 50 million pounds each – that would make them into incredible players.

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  42. Bris – You have a bee in your bonnet. Out expensive players and you’re not bothered that we haven’t spent the money we have on better players that have come in. Why is that? What do you think the club achieves by having £100m in the bank and not spending it on better players, paying better money?

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  43. Get a grip, Stu. Why do you assume that?

    Of course I’d prefer us to buy better players. Of course I’d prefer us to be in Man City’s position. Of course I’d prefer the world to work the way I want it to. Of course I’d like to know what is going on with the Newcastle hierarchy.

    Unfortunately, life isn’t the way I want it to be, so I make do with what I have.

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  44. Bris – Your sarcasm about players who cost the going rate gives everyone the impression that you don’t particularly think it’s worth it. Are you Mike Ashley?

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  45. And you reckon you’re not a troll.

    Sorry, Stu, I’m not interested in a conversation. I only chat to real people I respect.

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  46. Hallelujah! ?

    You’ve been boring me to death for the last year or so with your snide remarks. For once I thought I’d interact with you but it turns out my instinct was right again…

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  47. I will play devil’s advocate. What if we had bought Kenedy for 25 million and Rondon for 15 million then the net spend would have been 20 million. Would that have made everybody happy? As it stands, if they have good seasons we can probably pick them up for those prices in January or the summer.

    We are left hoping that Dummett and Shelvey stay fit and that Diame is the Mo of the second half of the season and not the first. With a bit of luck we will do OK.

    Other teams did better on paper, but they will have some failures as well as successes. That’s the way it works. The biggest coup of last summer’s transfer window was Swansea getting Ronato Sanchez from Bayern and he turned into the biggest bust.

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  48. Trashley: My guess is that Muto has a basic understanding of English at least. Japan has a very good education system and they prioritize English for business just like Germany does. I lived in Germany and the 3 main subjects from age 5 are Maths, German and English. I worked in a Youth Hostel and the 14 year olds had very good English skills and by 18 most were fluent.

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  49. Eric, if Kenedy has a good season there will be other clubs than us in for him. It makes no longer term sense to loan him. Although for the short term it’s good. The club won’t spend £15m on a 30 year old so we can forget about Rondon too.

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  50. Stuart79:
    Eric, if Kenedy has a good season there will be other clubs than us in for him. It makes no longer term sense to loan him. Although for the short term it’s good. The club won’t spend £15m on a 30 year old so we can forget about Rondon too.

    Even with a good season, 25 million will be about right for Kenedy. There is probably even an understanding in place. The Rondon situation is complicated but he will probably be a free Agent and therefore will fall into Ashley’s territory of perhaps being a bargain. We’ll have to wait and see what league we are in 🙂

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  51. Speaking of which, I fully expect us to have a tough start simply because of the way the fixtures have gone. I also expect that the Mackems might have an OK start because of the opposition they face. Cue some Mackem trolling of NUFC which should be funny because we are quite literally in different leagues.

    I have seen a little bit on The Chronicle comments with Mackems making fun of NUFC transfer business and owner, seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are signing freebies from the 3rd division and are owned by a chancer who has already failed at football ownership.

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  52. Eric Sykes:
    I will play devil’s advocate. What if we had bought Kenedy for 25 million and Rondon for 15 million then the net spend would have been 20 million. Would that have made everybody happy? As it stands, if they have good seasons we can probably pick them up for those prices in January or the summer.

    We are left hoping that Dummett and Shelvey stay fit and that Diame is the Mo of the second half of the season and not the first. With a bit of luck we will do OK.

    Other teams did better on paper, but they will have some failures as well as successes. That’s the way it works. The biggest coup of last summer’s transfer window was Swansea getting Ronato Sanchez from Bayern and he turned into the biggest bust.

    Eric – I don’t know about Devils Advocacy, but you’ve pretty much asked the same question as Bris, only used different figures ?.

    I agree 100%. I have always said I don’t care how much the player costs – providing he’s the player the manager wants. Clubs like Brighton may be spending millions on an individual player – but would we honestly want that player?! – in fact, I struggle to think of players they have that I’d want in our side.

    Yours and Bris point is spot on.

    But at the same time, many people are saying we finished the window with a £20m profit – no, that’s just player sales. The PL money is still unaccounted for, and that makes a huge amount of money that hasn’t went on improving the team – as Ashley himself claimed it would.
    As fans I think we have every right to know what’s happened to it. If it has gone to clearing the debt – I’m fine with that (providing it’s the start of the back of Ashley). If it’s going towards internal improvement that we wouldn’t directly see (training facilities or the youth set up) – I’m fine with that too. But if it’s just sat in the bank like Stu says – I’m not fine with that, because Rafa clearly wanted more.

    Ultimately we’ve got what we’ve got now, and Rafa and Lascelles seem like a pair who can galvanise a squad of players, so let’s see.

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  53. Sharpy: my point was about loans instead of buys which affected the net spend total. BrisV was more about numbers in and their quality. I am assuming he was thinking about contract status affecting value and that the perhaps the quality is better than the net spend reflects. Similar but not the same. Anyway, when have you ever seen me and BrisV agree?

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  54. Eric Sykes:
    Sharpy: my point was about loans instead of buys which affected the net spend total. BrisV was more about numbers in and their quality. I am assuming he was thinking about contract status affecting value and that the perhaps the quality is better than the net spend reflects. Similar but not the same. Anyway, when have you ever seen me and BrisV agree?

    Eric – yeah the similarity I picked up on was the acquisition of a player rather than the means.

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  55. On a different topic. I’ve just saw a article on Real Madrid, Barca and Man Utd making their top using plastic bottles recovered from our oceans.
    What a fantastic idea!!! I really hope this catches on globally – that coupled with using refill bottles could make a big impact in such a big problem.

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  56. Sharpy – Your “Would we want them players” argument is irrelevant. Them clubs have back their manager with funds and they’ve identified players that the manager thinks will improve their team – not ours. If Rafa had £50m to spend and he could spend it how he liked he’d do the same. So to be honest, I’m not bothered who the likes of Brighton have bought, I’m bothered because it’s likely they’ve improved them.

    This “it doesn’t matter how much a player costs” is clearly rubbish. Football clubs cannot have sustained success (relative success) if they can’t or don’t compete in the transfer market. Everyone would like to have a good team full of free transfers and player who cost less than £5m but there’s a reason why teams who have players worth that are in the Championship.

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  57. Sharpy17:
    On a different topic.I’ve just saw a article on Real Madrid, Barca and Man Utd making their top using plastic bottles recovered from our oceans.
    What a fantastic idea!!!I really hope this catches on globally – that coupled with using refill bottles could make a big impact in such a big problem.

    agree mate.

    Olly, they getting anywhere with the site issue mate ?

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  58. For the first time in years I paid more than passing interest to the window .. that was a mistake as I now feel mostly perplexed.

    Feels like another opportunity that has not been fully taken to improve altho Ashley may feel differently if he looks at his bank balance. If he’s playing a longer game I can’t figure it out

    It remains to be seen how well we go this season but one thing I do know is that my interest in nufc will be limited as it simply seems not worth my energy.

    I hope the blog thrives as tbh it’s my primary port of call for info and views around nufc

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  59. I guess we now know where the money has gone… ?? Sports direct have just purchased House of Fraser for £90 million. Waited til they went into administration then sucked them up like leeches… ???

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  60. i dont think anybody hates jabba as much as me,i disliked him from the moment he bought the club to me he was sussing everything out when came,i didnt expect any big signings,but one thing i think Rafa has made mistakes on some signings,if ime not wrong in his time he has bought three left backs none have been any good i know hes had no money but three goes?what a shame we will lose a world class manager at seasons end along with quite a few players i think.

    this filling in is doing my heed in

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  61. DT – *** when will this site get fixed?:
    I guess we now know where the money has gone… Sports direct have just purchased House of Fraser for £90 million. Waited til they went into administration then sucked them up like leeches…

    Seems Ashley would have been distracted.

    He has been getting more and more into property. My guess is he will close all of the stores and get into joint property deals with a few of the building owners. Multifunctional with office, residential, restaurants etc in downtown locations. It happened with factories and docks and Department Stores are just about dinosaurs now as well. Fatty will get the warehouses and trucks for free and any online business he can salvage.

    With all of this going on I doubt he was paying much attention to whether to buy or loan Rondon.

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  62. I haven’t been in a Department Store in 10 years and I bet I am not the only one. Better to repurpose them because at least there will be some restaurant and sales jobs created. There is no way he is buying them to keep them open and turn them into “House of Tat”. Those jobs are gone whether Fatty buys it or not.

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  63. Stuart – I’m not an Ashley apologist for the low spend but spending loads of money is no simple guarantee of success. Look at Everton last two seasons. They spent a fortune, probably ten times as much as us before ditching two managers and being in the same relegation battle as us last season until very late on.
    Presumably you’d have been happier if we’d spent £12m on Cabella.

    Olly you said Andy was fixing this site. Is that like Ashley’s every last penny?

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  64. It will be interesting to see which Spurs team we play. Don’t rejoice if it is Lloriente or especially Lucas Moura. I saw them in pre-season over here and they were great. Still, I would rather miss Kane and Son. Is that some Jewish Dele (Alli) that Levy is opening up in the new White Hart Lane? You know they have a cheese room, right? I am not kidding although I think they probably call it a Fromagerie and charge 20 quid a glass for yer basic plonk.

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  65. georgio:
    Stuart – I’m not an Ashley apologist for the low spend but spending loads of money is no simple guarantee of success. Look at Everton last two seasons. They spent a fortune, probably ten times as much as us before ditching two managers and being in the same relegation battle as us last season until very late on.
    Presumably you’d have been happier if we’d spent £12m on Cabella.

    Olly you said Andy was fixing this site. Is that like Ashley’s every last penny?

    Paying the going rate for players gives you a better chance of relative success. You can’t argue that it doesn’t. You use Everton has an example but they allowed a DOF to spend that money and didn’t have a manager with a record like Rafa. They then appointed Sam Allardyce…

    Ultimately, georgio – having £100m in the bank and refusing to spend it on players because you think players are too expensive gives you less of a chance of success than actually spending it. Imagine if you were a taxi driver who’s car kept breaking down and it was costing you money every time and losing you business and you had £10,000 in the bank but you refused to spend it on a car because you didn’t agree with the prices. What good would it do you?

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  66. Stuart79: Paying the going rate for players gives you a better chance of relative success. You can’t argue that it doesn’t. You use Everton has an example but they allowed a DOF to spend that money and didn’t have a manager with a record like Rafa. They then appointed Sam Allardyce…

    Ultimately, georgio – having £100m in the bank and refusing to spend it on players because you think players are too expensive gives you less of a chance of success than actually spending it. Imagine if you were a taxi driver who’s car kept breaking down and it was costing you money every time and losing you business and you had £10,000 in the bank but you refused to spend it on a car because you didn’t agree with the prices. What good would it do you?

    It doesn’t matter anyway, it is all UBER now. At least in Chicago.

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  67. I’d still have a car and £10,000 in the bank. I fully understand what you’re saying mate but life generally doesn’t make sense. Burnley above Everton, WHU etc as an example.
    I’m looking forward to the game tomorrow – unlike the transfer window Rafa will be totally in charge again doing what he’s best at.

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  68. What’s the point in still having a car, georgio if it keeps breaking down and costing you money to the point where your business is about to go bust? Stick to you guns and see your income shrink by 60% forcing you to spend your £10k and then you have no money and a lower income.

    Liverpool £164m
    Fulham £105m
    Chelsea £90m
    West Ham £88m
    Arsenal £66m
    Everton £66m

    I expect we should still be finishing above West Ham, Everton and Fulham using your logic. Let’s see.

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