Burnley 1-2 Newcastle: A fully deserved win despite miss of the season – Three in a row for NUFC

A fully deserved win for Newcastle tonight, with us ending up hanging on at the death after a failure to convert several big chances in the second half.

Ritchie missed an open goal and Joselu hit the post from a one on one in the second half, but we held on and came away with a thoroughly deserved three points – even if the score line SHOULD have been much more convincing.

It’s our first away win of the season and a victory that not only takes us into 13th but FOUR points clear of the drop zone.

After wins for Huddersfield and Fulham over the weekend, this was a big game between two sides who have every chance of being sucked into the relegation mix come May next year – and we came out on top.

Rafa got his tactics down to a tee, with Ritchie doing superbly at left-wing back to nullify the threat of Lennon and Lowton down their right hand side, with our three centre-backs Clark, Fernandez and Schar dealing well with their big strikers and Perez and Kenedy offering support either side of Rondon up top.

Here’s how the table looks after tonight’s big win:

The results over the weekend were very mixed. Fulham look set for a resurgence under Ranieri, Huddersfield pulled off a 0-2 win no one saw coming, however Cardiff did lose again and Southampton’s dismal start continued, with Hughes probably facing the sack soon enough after the 3-2 defeat at Craven Cottage.

Here’s our next five fixtures between now and Christmas:

  • West Ham (H)
  • Everton (A)
  • Wolves (H)
  • Huddersfield (A)
  • Fulham (H)

A big chance now to kick on and get ourselves clear of that drop zone.

Thankfully, we can laugh about it now, so here’s Ritchie’s miss:

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63 thoughts on “Burnley 1-2 Newcastle: A fully deserved win despite miss of the season – Three in a row for NUFC

  1. Very happy with the deserved win but we do play some awful long ball stuff at times. We do need some young blood to give us some speed and movement. Quite frankly watching Newcastle puts years on me. Full marks to the defence, especially the two centre backs. Agree with Sharpy that I would be reluctant to sign Rondon (he won’t be any younger next season) and I am not really sold on Kenedy. In spite of his glaring miss I thought Ritchie was the pick of the forwards. Clark’s goal was terrific but he leaves me cold as a defender as he seems incapable of picking out a forward pass. Diame put in a good shift and unlike many I would not go for a combination of Ki and Shelvey as neither is capable of breaking up play like Diame does when he is on his game.

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  2. I really don’t have anything against Joe Hart but I found him wanting to be an attacking midfielder last night funny. Maybe it was a call out to Pep – look, see what I can do on with my feet, you are wrong! You see a few keepers come up for corners in the dying minutes but I can’t really recall them stay up there and try to play midfield. Ayoze took a touch too many and I really would have liked to see the ball heading for their goal, even if it missed.

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  3. All of our 3 wins could have been draws, but equally our draws against Cardiff, S’ton and Palace could have been wins. What goes around comes around, swings and roundabouts.

    Arguably missing 5 1st teamers. What do we do when they are fit? Rafa will have some options but then again Fatty will have some excuses.

    Lascelles
    Lejeune
    Dummett
    Shelvey
    Muto

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  4. Having been critical of Rafa and his tactics in previous games (and I stand by it), he got it bang on last night. Selecting Clark was the right call, but playing him in a back 3 against their big physical CFs was absolutely the right call.
    I loved the width that formation gave last night and Yedlin was a real outlet and threat down the right. But Ritchie deserves a mention coz he was left wingback and totally out of his comfort position. But he was brilliant imo. He held that position throughout and was equally a threat on the left flank. His miss was our right wingback setting up our left wingback – despite the miss – that’s the type of offensive football I want to see.
    Rondon looked jaded last night and barely managed 70mins. He was excellent against B’mth last time out, but all that travelling clearly has its effects. I’d be against signing him whilst he’s still playing international football. I really don’t see what he brings that Mitrovic couldn’t have. I’m not saying I don’t rate Rondon, I just don’t think he can do it consistently.
    But the stand out quality player for me was Ki. In the second half I think he pretty much ran the show. He was brilliant.

    I don’t remember Burnley really testing Dubravka too much, but Ritchie missed a sitter and Joselu hit the post – so realistically, that could have been 1-4. What a boost that scoreline would have been – and would totally back that formation imo.

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  5. Eric Sykes:
    All of our 3 wins could have been draws, but equally our draws against Cardiff, S’ton and Palace could have been wins. What goes around comes around, swings and roundabouts.

    Arguably missing 5 1st teamers. What do we do when they are fit? Rafa will have some options but then again Fatty will have some excuses.

    Lascelles
    Lejeune
    Dummett
    Shelvey
    Muto

    Eric – that a very good and worrying point mate. Personally the only 2 changes I might have made to last night was I think at times we missed a more physical CB in the ariel battles with Vokes and Wood. Because of that I think I would swap Lascelles with Clark. Lascelles can be the muscle and Schar and Fernandez the ball players.
    The only other change I might make would be Muto for Kenedy. I’m not sold on Kenedy and whilst he clearly has talent, I just think his decision making at times is poor. I think Muto and Perez behind Rondon in that formation would be a better balance.
    Shock horror I’ve left Shelvey out ?. I think against certain opponents his range of passing would be vital, but I think Ki has been excellent and isn’t a bad passer of the ball himself.
    It would still leave a canny bench like.

    Thinking ahead to January – if we stuck with this formation, the priority for me would be a left wingback. Ritchie did well last night, but it’s not his natural position. I’d also prioritise a CF. We lost so much offensive threat when Rondon came off and Joselu came on last night.

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  6. We should probably stick with that team for Saturday especially since Lascelles was not even on the bench. Ease Shelvey back in because he has been out for a month now and was carrying an injury before that.

    West Ham play a different game without the aerial threat and even though Arnatovic is a big lad be plays it on the ground. Hopefully he is injured. Rafa goes on runs so a 4th win on the trot is not out of the question.

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  7. Rafa is some manager. That formation last night was totally unique and it worked a treat. It was so fluid and totally baffled Burnley who really were reduced to lofting balls into our box. I thought Kenedy and Ritchie did splendid jobs and together with Ki and Diame they held the midfield.
    The whole team must be knackered this morning. I am.

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  8. I am not going to say too much about the Magpie Group 11th minute “walk-in” but how much support do you actually believe there will be for it? The latest payroll numbers showing us 4th bottom shows yet again Ashley’s lack of ambition. But I totally disagree with matchday protests when it is shooting ourselves in the foot.

    It was interesting to see what Rafa was saying about buying good players. He was pointing out to Ashley that they would still be here even if Rafa is not and therefore would benefit any future manager. This may seem obvious, and has been said on here many times, but it needed to be explained to Ashley. You would think he would realise this after we were able to make big money on Sissoko, Gini and Townsend last time we went down.

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  9. The payroll numbers tell me there is no way we can get a top striker in January, even if one is available. The best we can hope for is a better backup than Joselu behind Muto and Rondon. The priority is a left back and attacking midfielder/number 10 and more of these will be available and will be cheaper. I expect we will do something in January. Not enough for many, but something.

    Remember we can still make loans from Europe.

    In an ideal world I would buy Kenedy from Chelsea and see if they will loan us Loftus Cheek. I think Kenedy’s value has probably gone down and we could get him for 10-15 million which is worth it in this market. Remember Murphy cost 10-12 million.

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  10. We need to strengthen the squad, we need better players and more strength in depth – no doubt about that. But I want to play devils advocate a bit here when it comes to breaking transfer records.

    I think most would agree that the top six clubs – Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs are streets ahead of the rest at the moment. So 7th would be a great finish – the best of the rest of you like. But from a business point of view – each league position is the difference of around £2m.
    So if I finished 14th rather than 7th – I’d loose out on £14m. Why would I spend £30m on a forward to chase £14m?. Some may argue we don’t finish 7th – ok, then last year we finished 10th – how much better could we have done with a forward who could get 15 plus goals a season. Well probably 7th would be the answer – an additional £6m – but that 15 plus goal forward cost 5 times that!!.

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  11. Sharpy17:
    We need to strengthen the squad, we need better players and more strength in depth – no doubt about that.But I want to play devils advocate a bit here when it comes to breaking transfer records.

    I think most would agree that the top six clubs – Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs are streets ahead of the rest at the moment.So 7th would be a great finish – the best of the rest of you like.But from a business point of view – each league position is the difference of around £2m.
    So if I finished 14th rather than 7th – I’d loose out on £14m.Why would I spend £30m on a forward to chase £14m?.Some may argue we don’t finish 7th – ok, then last year we finished 10th – how much better could we have done with a forward who could get 15 plus goals a season.Well probably 7th would be the answer – an additional £6m – but that 15 plus goal forward cost 5 times that!!.

    Or he could be called Alexander Mitrovic and have been already on the books 🙂 How’s that for Devil’s Advocacy 🙂

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  12. The upturn in results has coincided with Shelvey’s injury. Coincidence?

    I like Shelvey but you do really have to build the team around his particular skillset. He needs a physical forward and a willing runner which we have when fit – Rondon and Muto. I think he would fit into last night’s system because he wouldn’t have to think about defensive duties. But it is either him or Ki, and not both.

    And does Jonjo make the team one-dimensional, where how he plays dictates how the team plays? I have said this many times but not as a criticism, but to point out how important he has been to NUFC. But can we be so reliant on one player, especially with these super-tactical coaches who can probably work him out?

    We really don’t have many options at the moment and I am not advocating selling Shelvey. Perhaps he is not an automatic starter though if we had a more dynamic central midfielder. He doesn’t score and hardly provides any assists.

    Play Jonjo in a more situational role when he is picked according to opposition weaknesses or comes on when we are chasing a game?

    Just a thought and probably knee-**** to a few wins 🙂

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  13. Rafa likes the players who can make the Hollywood pass. He has had Gerrard, Alonso and Kruse so I am sure he can make it work. As I said, I am not advocating selling Jonjo.

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  14. Eric Sykes: Or he could be called Alexander Mitrovic and have been already on the books How’s that for Devil’s Advocacy

    Eric – there definitely is that, but that wasn’t quite the point I was make – £30m on any player – defender, midfielder or attacker.
    I know there is this argument of keeping up with other clubs, but we are up there with the likes of Wolves, Brighton and WHU and above the likes of Huddersfield and Fulham – all who have spent more than us and spent more in terms of individual fees.
    We bought Schar and Fernandez for a combined fee of £10m – they have been as good as any CBs in the league so far this season.

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  15. Daily Mail produced a Top 10 Premier League “howlers” list and placed Ritchie’s miss number 2. Was it really THAT bad?

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  16. Sharpy17: Aye

    No, but he’s a toon player so it’s open season.
    He’s in good company as MNF showed last night when they show former top forwards missing total sitters. As Jamie and the lovely David both said, that’s football, it happens, especially to us.
    Never thought I would say thank god for Clark but he did well for his goal, still not convinced defensively mind.

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  17. kimtoon: No, but he’s a toon player so it’s open season.
    He’s in good company as MNF showed last night when they show former top forwards missing total sitters. As Jamie and the lovely David both said, that’s football, it happens, especially to us.
    Never thought I would say thank god for Clark but he did well for his goal, still not convinced defensively mind.

    Kim – it’s not open season for me. If you look at my previous posts I’ve had nothing but praise for Ritchie – I think he played excellent last night – out of position and in a formation the team isn’t used to. He done great. But I’d hope he’d be the first to admit it was a shocking miss – actually, to be fair, he was. Rafa said in his post match interview that Ritchie was saying to him he didn’t know how he missed.
    I’m not beating the lad up – nor do I think he should be. If you’re going to miss like that, do it in a game we win, when you’ve made a good contribution.
    Hopefully he’s beating himself up a bit and the lads have ribbed him about it – and it fires him up to play even better and hopefully score against WHU.

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  18. I predict a total embarrassment for the Magpie Group on Saturday with less than 1,000 doing the 11th minute walk-in. This is because Rafa obviously doesn’t agree with this tactic, we are on a good run and I think most agree with me that match day protests can be self defeating.

    It won’t make me happy that they are embarrassed I just hope that it makes them call off the Wolves protest.

    SJP on Saturday is neither the time nor place for an Ashley protest.

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  19. The West Ham game is not even televised in the UK so who is even going to know if it is going on, let alone what it is about. It is on here in the US and I bet the commentators don’t even mention it, that is if they even notice. So, what is the point?

    Wolves is live on Sky but after the total failure that will happen on Saturday who is going to go along with the boycott?

    As I have said before, the Magpie Group predicted a few weeks ago that 25,000 would not attend as part of their protest. Then they said in the Chronicle interview they did not want to make predictions.

    Call it off, and get behind the team!!!!

    Boycott his stores and get arrested if you want, but leave NUFC on matchdays out of it.

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  20. Sharpy: sorry to hear about your Mams layoff. I hope you understand that my view on Ashley and NUFC is totally separate from what he is doing with his stores.

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  21. Eric – my mam was actually working for a company called Links of London – its a smaller jewellers that rents space in bigger stores. They rent space in HoF in the metro centre and Fenwicks in Newcastle.
    The first thing Ashley (or his daughters bloke) done was to increase the rent for all these smaller companies based in HoF, whilst at the same time going to the Metro Centre and trying to get them to reduce their rent. Their approach was basically ‘we are a big draw to customers coming to the metro centre’ or ‘who else will get to take over such a large area of the complex’ and even ‘if you don’t reduce we will be forced to close and those job losses will be down to you’.
    Links of London were pulling out of HoF whether it stayed open or not, because the increase in rent was such they would have been operating at a loss. But that has been his plan for all the stores – they priced one out of the Darlington store and now there is an Adidas section slapped in the middle of the store – totally out of place. The SD bags for life have found their way into HoF as well.

    She’s had a **** time of it my old mar like. She beat breast cancer, but was finished by Northern Goldsmiths (another jewellers) because of her attendance believe it or not. A lass she used to work with there works for this Links of London and got her in there. She’d only been there 3 months and was covering for the manager at Newcastle when they’ve basically told her – last in first out so they can redistribute the staff from the Metro Centre.
    I get it’s bisness, it just stinks.

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  22. I know it’s wishful thinking but I wouldn’t mind seeing us get Stanley N’Soki at LB from PSG.
    Genoa apparently want Lazaar – I’d would love if we could build a deal for him plus cash for Krzysztof Piatek – young Polish striker.
    If we could bag Loftus-Cheek as well, that would be some window I reckon

    Carlsberg any chance you could help us out here or what???

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  23. That N’soki is some player. I just can’t see us getting him from PSG. Wishful thinking Sharpy.

    I’m totally impressed with the way Ki and Schar have improved the team. They’re both so comfortable on the ball and so good at keeping the **** thing. Unlike Lascelles who aimlessly lofts the ball forward or Shelvey with his hollywood passes that fail 90% of the time. We look a much much better team now.

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  24. I am starting to think it is not JUST Mourinho at Man U, it is also the quality of the players they have. After all, they have been **** for 5 years. Even when they won the Europa League they did it with **** football and same with finishing 2nd last year. I know, I know what would we give for their record in the last 5 years, their trophies…

    Their 2 most expensive players… I watched Pogba at Juve and didn’t know what all the fuss was about. They never let in any goals which allowed him to stroll around the pitch doing his little flicks and dinks and outrageous goal attempts that would make the highlight reels but mostly ended up in the stands. He plays the same way for Man U. And Lukaku usually scores goals but does little else and takes a lot of attempts to get them goals.

    You can see Mourinho’s frustration which only makes things worse.

    Long may it continue.

    I am not AS worried about our holiday fixtures now with Watford going off the boil a bit and Man U playing simply **** but getting lucky with a few results. I have already wriiten off Liverpool.

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  25. Georgio: I agree with you about Lascelles and Shelvey but I still think they are good players. The problem is that they are not flexible and the system has to be fit around them.

    Lascelles is great with a ball playing centre half like Lejeune or maybe if we try him with Schar. Not so good with Fernadez. It is probably to be expected as you want players that compliment each other. At this point in time I wouldn’t bump Fernandez for Lascelles and I wouldn’t play Lascelles with Fernandez.

    I think Shelvey has been out of form but he really can only play one way. If we are pushed back too deep he becomes Jonjo-the-hoof, especially if we do not have an outlet. And Joselu and Perez are not an outlet. As I wrote above, maybe with Rondon and Muto we will see the best of Shelvey again? Not sure if I would pick him against the elite teams because we are almost assured of being under pressure. Rafa can get back to his rotation policy if we have a few better choices and doesn’t have to play Shelvey every game.

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  26. I am not going to bash Shelvey too much because I do like him and I think Rafa can find a way to utilize him. However, (there’s always a however or a but isn’t there 🙂 ) at some point you have to look at his goals and assists and wonder. You get assists from free kicks so it is surprising his are so low. Same with Ritchie who had a good game on Monday but couldn’t clear the first man on corners.

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  27. Didn’t watch Man U game last night but Man U fans making glowing comments on Mbabu’s performance. Saw him play for us against Chelsea where he had Hazard in his pocket but he never played again. Why? Probably because he lacked Premiership experience. If we are not careful we could also lose Roberts, Longstaff and Sørensen. I believe these three are better than some who regularly turn out for the first team.

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  28. About 35 per cent plus of goals come from set pieces and we have not been very good at these recently (going back to Pards in fact). I was glad that we tried a short corner on Monday and changed the angle of the cross for Clark’s goal.

    I mentioned a few weeks ago that someone other than Shelvey should be tried on direct free kicks and that they should not automatically go for goal as that has a very low success rate.

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  29. Groucho:
    Didn’t watch Man U game last night but Man U fans making glowing comments on Mbabu’s performance. Saw him play for us against Chelsea where he had Hazard in his pocket but he never played again. Why?Probably because he lacked Premiership experience. If we are not careful we could also lose Roberts, Longstaff and Sørensen. I believe these three are better than some who regularly turn out for the first team.

    Problem is we are desperately short of midfield cover. If we get someone in January, loan out Roberts and Longstaff as they are 21, right. Let Sorensen train with the first team as he is younger.

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  30. Groucho: say what you mean man. Is it:

    Longstaff and Roberts > Hanley

    Sorensen > Joselu

    I haven’t seen any of them but I would believe you if you told me this was true.

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  31. Uncle Ed is touting Rafa for November Manager of the Month and I think he might be right. Because of the international break and the way fixtures have fallen it has been played 3, won 3.

    Pep can’t win it every month can he?

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  32. Chris Waugh currently doing a Q and A on Chronic Live. I will paraphrase:

    Q: Jim from Byker asks, will we go with the same formation on Saturday?

    A: We could, but we could also revert to Rafa’s usual formation. In the words of Manuel from Fawlty Towers “I know nothing”.

    Q: Jim from Benwell says he has heard the takeover with Kenyon is moving forwards, any news?

    A: You got me there.

    Q: Jim from Gosforth asks, how about Dummett, any news?

    A: Erm… ask me after Rafa’s press conference on Friday

    Q: Jim from Wallsend asks, what do you actually do at the Chronicle?

    A: for the past 5 years I have been an intern here learning at the feet of the Master, Lee Ryder.

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  33. For better or worse, The Chronic and their merry band of dimwits is where we get most of our NUFC news. They do a Q & A asking for readers questions 3 days before a major escalation in protests by the Magpie Group. They didn’t even mention it, and it is not like they don’t know about it because they did a major interview with the Magpie Group last week.

    Did they not get a question?

    Did they ignore it?

    Do they not want to give the 1th minute walk-in any more publicity? I WOULD AGREE WITH THIS BTW. But it is not journalism. They should be reporting what is going on.

    As I have said, I think, and it is an opinion from 4,000 miles away, that less than 1,000 will do the walk-in and it will be an embarrassment.

    I think the Chronic are wimping out as usual and do not want to cross their Pals at the Magpie Group.

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  34. My electrician and friend is a Geordie and he has just said he’s going up to SJP for the game on Saturday. He’s not doing the walk in though. He doesn’t get to too many games being based in Bristol .

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  35. Eric Sykes: Problem is we are desperately short of midfield cover. If we get someone in January, loan out Roberts and Longstaff as they are 21, right. Let Sorensen train with the first team as he is younger.

    Eric i would play Roberts in place of Perez or perhaps anyone if they could stay on their feet and not feign injury as Perez did against Burnley and not fot the first time.

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  36. groucho: Eric i would play Roberts in place of Perez or perhaps anyone if they could stay on their feet and not feign injury as Perez did against Burnley and not fot the first time.

    Said it before Groucho but he should go back to his original job of lead singer of Depeche Mode.

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  37. Good to see some of the injured players back in training. I am not sure if any will play on Saturday but at least we will have a stronger bench. Here are my concerns/observations:

    1. Probably too early for Muto against West Ham but he should bump Joselu off the bench and might be able to give us 20 minutes if Dave Gehan is falling over.

    2. Is Shelvey a luxury player? At least he can come on if Ki is ineffective and vice versa now that we see that Ki is actually a PL player.

    3. Not sure if Lascelles can play with Fernandez so he will start on the bench. But how long can you keep your captain on the bench?

    4. Lejuene is better than Lascelles and has to come in when fit. Probably after Xmas.

    5. I expect Dummett to be out until after Xmas as he doesn’t heal from these hamstring injuries very quickly. Gives us more of a formation headache than a selection headache. Rafa said we needed cover, but did the Fatman listen!

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  38. The interesting thing about Monday and making that tactical switch and having it work was that they know it now and we might be able to do in during games – mean start 4-2-3-1 and then switch to whatever that was on Monday. It wasn’t just 3 at the back, it was switching wings with Ritchie and moving him back and switching wings with Kenedy and having him play more central.

    It was much more radical than simply 3 centre halfs. Do we have a plan B now?

    And it seemed to work even though Rondon was knackered after his 16,000 mile sojourn on international duty.

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  39. I am no coach or tactician but it seemed to me that Rafa realized Ritchie never gets to the by-line so he had him cross from deeper. Then on the other side he had the centre backs helping out Yedlin along with Kenedy and then he let kenedy go upfield and cut inside allowing Yedlin to go on the outside.

    It is something much more radical than I had seen from Rafa for us. Maybe the international break was worthwhile this time.

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  40. I thought that Nations League would be glorified friendlies but then they all took it seriously. I am still not sure why. Anyway, there is a 4 team tournament for the winners next June which actually looks like it might be fun and will be the highlight of the off-season.

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  41. Ryder (I know) says Steve Nickson is being dispatched to talk to Atlanta about Almiron. The second leg of the MLS Cup semi-final is tonight and I will have a look. I watched a bit of the last game and he made a sublime pass to set up one of their goals.

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  42. I said when Ashley first took over House of Fraser that anybody who thought Ashley was coming in as a white knight and would save jobs was delusional. It was always a property play because the bankruptcy voided the rental contracts. I still think he will repurpose the flagship highstreet stores into multi-use and close the shopping mall stores. He has started with Metro and Eldon Square. He also gets the warehouses and trucks for free.

    Fat Mike is not stupid. I am surprised that Bishop initially said they would be saving x number of jobs with the takeover. This was always going to happen.

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  43. Sports Direct etc are so transparent but nobody seems to question them and act surprised when there are closures and layoffs. It was the same with the NUFC accounts. The papers swallowed the PR line and it took a couple of weeks before they saw they had been duped, AGAIN.

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  44. Apart from Arnautovic, I don’t think there is too much difference in the teams and even then it is strength against strength. Hopefully he is out though because he is a dirty b-stard and the Refs let him get away with it. 2-1 to NUFC.

    Oh, and this Declan Rice kid is a bit over-hyped.

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  45. Funny article from Ryder. He is trying to take credit for saying stick by Rafa when some pundits were blaming him for the bad start. Sorry Lee, you never said anything specific about Keys, Gray or Wise who you are using to pat yourself on the back now. Their criticism was over the top but trusting Rafa is different to being totally unquestioning. There were certainly some strange substitutions and a few games against the non-top 6 where we could have done better – whether in results or playing style.

    A smug “I told you so” from Ryder is about as funny as it gets. He didn’t even get off the fence when we were on our worst start since the 19th century, he just said trust Rafa. A 5 year old could have said that.

    Look at the article. The pictures the Chronic have inset of Wise and Gray are about 10 years out of date. Maybe they took them from their facebook or tinder pages?

    https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manager-month-award-rafa-benitez-15482487

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  46. Eric Sykes:
    Apart from Arnautovic, I don’t think there is too much difference in the teams and even then it is strength against strength. Hopefully he is out though because he is a dirty b-stard and the Refs let him get away with it. 2-1 to NUFC.

    Oh, and this Declan Rice kid is a bit over-hyped.

    Eric – I think WH have some good players mate and if they are all firing and playing well, they are a good team – the likes of Anderson and Antonio are a threat too. But they are a team that like time on the ball and are dangerous if we stand off them. I’d go 3 CBs again and have one stick to Arnautovic like glue – frustrate him and he’ll loose his head.
    If we approach the game like we did against Burnley then I see us winning. Stand off and try to play them on the counter and I think we struggle.

    I hope Rafa has given Rondon an easy week. He showed against B’mth he knows how to play in this team – but against Burnley he looked fatigued.

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  47. Sharpy: I am going to go to the Pub to watch the game. There are usually quite a few West Ham fans who create a good atmosphere.

    Just wondering if I should walk into the pub in Chicago 11 minutes late?

    Is that the sound of one hand clapping…

    If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it…

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  48. We’ll see in a 24 hours, but this is going to be a total embarrassment for The Magpie Group. Call it off!!!

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  49. Eric Sykes:
    Sharpy: I am going to go to the Pub to watch the game. There are usually quite a few West Ham fans who create a good atmosphere.

    Just wondering if I should walk into the pub in Chicago 11 minutes late?

    Is that the sound of one hand clapping…

    If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it…

    ? I’m with you mate, it’s nonsense.
    I get their reasoning, but it’s a bit like when you’re a kid and you say to your mam ‘I’m not eating my tea til I get what I want’ – fine your mam says, then you go to bed hungry.
    Ultimately it’s the protesters that suffer (by missing part of the game and probably pissing those off around them turning up late) and nowt changes.
    I know some will say ‘well do nothing and nothing will ever change’. But for me, this isn’t the answer.
    I remember Man Utd fans had a bit of a protest afew seasons back and they used the green and yellow scarfs as the clubs original colours – to me that was as affective as the Blackburn fans staying away for the Venkys – which changed absolutely nowt.

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  50. target his shops relentlessly, that’s what hurts him most not some 11 minute walk in .
    And boycott the Wolves game, it’s on tv anyway.

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  51. Lads still ill, into the 4 month tomorrow with just two weeks he’s been well !
    Worst I’ve ever known his health, one cold after another and all given to me and my early evening help.
    I blame the bloomin weather, too muggy warm and wet. Need a good cold spell to kill off the bugs.
    It’s only the Toons upturn in form that’s keeping me in half decent spirits so they better not lose tomorrow.

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  52. kimtoon:
    target his shops relentlessly, that’s what hurts him most not some 11 minute walk in .
    And boycott the Wolves game, it’s on tv anyway.

    Nobody will boycott the Wolves game. Magpie Group said 25,000. If they get twenty five hundred I will be shocked.

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  53. Eleven at Eleven.

    Meaning the only people that will stay away for 11 are the organisers themselves.

    A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT.

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  54. AND. AND. AND.

    This Chris Holt guy is saying he is giving people like me with a different opinion his RESPECT. Just like the Magpie Group said a few weeks ago.

    I don’t need their FCKING RESPECT.

    Respectfully Fck Off.

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