Southampton 0-1 Newcastle: Saint-Maximin strikes late to earn huge win over 10-man Saints

We never do things the easy way, do we!

After missing several HUGE chances from open play seeing Ritchie have a penalty saved against a 10-man Southampton side, Allan Saint-Maximin stepped up late on to seal all three points.

Our first league win since mid January, a goal that ends our 4-game drought and a vital 3 points that takes us EIGHT clear of the drop zone after results went well for us elsewhere.

To a few people’s surprise, Bruce made a few changes in attack, dropping Joelinton (despite his best game in months on Tuesday) for Gayle and bringing Ritchie back in at Lazaro’s expense – who must also feel hard done by to miss out after his eye-catching all round display in midweek.

We stuck with 4-2-3-1, but Fernandez replaced Schar, Bentleb and S Longstaff made way for Shelvey and Hayden and Manquillo was passed fit to start at right-back.

The game kicked off and Southampton had an immediate spell of pressure, putting a few too many dangerous balls into Dubravka’s box and winning several early corners.

Then, the first of a whole host of first-half chances for Newcastle United arrived in what was to be one of the most entertaining yet frustrating 45 minutes we’ve seen this season.

Shelvey prodded a clever pass across the box with the outside of his foot, but Gayle’s close-range strike was straight at McCarthy. His save then fell to Almiron and a goal seemed certain, but he too also fired straight at the Saints stopper, and even forced a THIRD save in as many seconds on the resultant rebound.

It was a huge chance missed, yet just one of several we were to spurn in the coming 40 minutes.

Then to the first of TWO VAR incidents. Moussa Djenepo came in late on Isaac Hayden – who looked in some pain – and the referee brandished a yellow.

VAR then took a second look and it was a clear red, with the Saints winger late and high, giving Graham Scott no option to send him off after being instructed to watch it again on the pitch-side monitor.

10 vs 11 and we were well on top, with Shelvey pulling the string and Saint-Maximin having the beating of him man every time, but there was one issue – our woeful finishing in the final third (or should I say Dwight Gayle’s woeful finishing).

The former number 9 got on the end of an exquisite cross from Shelvey, but his point-blank header was straight at McCarthy AGAIN, and he fired another golden chance wide moments later after a brilliant run and cut-back from Saint-Maximin.

Another big VAR incident then came, with Sofiane Boufal adjudged to have handled the ball in the box. The video assistant referees took their time, but it was clear he leaned his arm into the ball and a spot kick was given.

Matt Ritchie stepped up and a pretty tame effort was saved once again by an inspired Alex McCarthy, who’d picked the perfect day to play like Oliver Khan in his prime!

We should’ve gone into the break at least 0-3 up, but instead made it another 45 minutes in the league without a goal – and more importantly gave Southampton that slight glimmer of hope they should have NEVER had going into the second period.

They gave as good as they got for the first 15 minutes of the second half, with neither side creating many clear chances, and Steve Bruce made a change on the hour mark as a result, bringing on Joelinton for Ritchie; who’d missed a penalty, been booked and failed to capitalise on our first half dominance despite all his best efforts.

Shelvey then began to go off the boil, misplacing more passes in a 2-minute spell than he had in the previous 60 and Jamaal Lascelles then had a stupid 30-yard effort sail over – which was proof a resilient Southampton were starting to frustrate us.

Lazaro then came on at right-back for the solid Manquillo to give us a greater threat down that side, but we weren’t creating much and the game threatened to fizzle out into another 0-0.

Then, the man of the moment stepped up. Allan Saint-Maximin.

His winner came via some awful indecisive defending from Valery – who failed to deal with Longstaff’s chipped ball in behind – but Saint-Maximin got in ahead of him, burst into the box and poked the ball in off the post past a previously unstoppable McCarthy.

The celebration that followed and resultant scenes in the away end were brilliant, with the goal not only securing a big 3 points in a game we had several huge chances to win, but taking us WELL clear of the drop zone after today’s results went in our favour.

With Bournemouth losing in the early kick off at Anfield, Watford being beaten at Palace and West Ham losing it late at Arsenal, we’re now 8 points clear of the bottom three and have leapfrogged Southampton in moving up to 13th.

A game that should’ve been MUCH more comfortable than the scoreline suggests, but a huge win all the same and improved performance – even if most of it was against 10 men!

Sheffield Utd next up at St James’ Park.

HWTL!

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408 thoughts on “Southampton 0-1 Newcastle: Saint-Maximin strikes late to earn huge win over 10-man Saints

  1. Morgan had some interview show over here on CNN for a while and his overriding smugness was what came over most to me. I don’t know why anybody watches him.

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  2. I’m often no lover of the media but if they keep on banging on about the lack of adequate protection for frontline staff well good for them. What the government is doing now I fully support. But don’t ask me to give them credit. This virus has been rampant for three months and the government has not done any forward planning. They have reacted to situations not planned for them. Everyday has brought a change of approach. We didn’t need hindsight. We were lucky in that we could clearly see what was happening elsewhere before the virus reached us in any meaningful way. We took no advantage of that luck and we ignored what was happening elsewhere. The government has been a complete shambles.

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  3. I’ve come to the conclusion that we have massively overreacted to this. Experts think that up to 300,000 people may already have this virus and 400 have died. That’s a death rate of less than 0.5%. Add to that, 100% of the deaths had underlying health conditions I actually think it’s ridiculous how over the top these actions have been. Yes protect the vulnerable and lock them dow man but the rest of the country? 90% of people who get this have mild to moderate symptoms. Last week I was very fly like. Coughing, achy, headache, temperature and I stayed in. But now I’m fine.

    Let’s think about it. Last year 600,000 people died last year in the UK. They reckon if we let this virus go without attempting to stop it it would result in 750,000 deaths. How many of these deaths would have occurred anyway? Who knows but something to think about.

    Protecting the vulnerable should be easy as there’s far less of them. I still don’t know why we haven’t profiled people and acted accordingly.

    My fear is that we will do far more damage taking the action we are taking than this virus could ever do.

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  4. Groucho:
    I’m often no lover of the media but if they keep on banging on about the lack of adequate protection for frontline staff well good for them. What the government is doing now I fully support. But don’t ask me to give them credit. This virus has been rampant for three months and the government has not done any forward planning. They have reacted to situations not planned for them. Everyday has brought a change of approach. We didn’t need hindsight. We were lucky in that we could clearly see what was happening elsewhere before the virus reached us in any meaningful way. We took no advantage of that luck and we ignored what was happening elsewhere. The government has been a complete shambles.

    Groucho, Every country in the world apart from China had the advantage of seeing it beforehand, yet they’ve all struggled. Ever wondered why?

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  5. Just spoke to my daughter hazel by text, she now has the aches and cough and dizziness as well as the throat thing 🙁

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  6. My ex is now doing Hazels shifts helping me with the lad . My other lady who helps is back off leave on sunday, hoping she’s ok .

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  7. He has it and he’s working from home.

    I could well have had it last week. I had a cough for one week previous, temperature, headache and very achy. I just stayed in and now I’m feeling much better.

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  8. Stu, I think lots have it tbh.
    Back in early feb i was sooooo poorly, luckily the lad was at respite and i just led on the sofa feeling awful, aches, sweats, throat from hell, no sense of taste or smell and dizzy on and off. Only now just getting rid of the cough, lad had something similar too. Thought it was a nasty body cold/virus but who knows.

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  9. If we could get as many people tested as possible, those showing they have the antigens for it could then get back to work and take some pressure off .

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  10. Some reports say they had cases in Wuhan as early as oct 2019 but didn’t inform rest of the world until late dec 2019. If true then loads would of bought it into other countries long before official declaration was made.

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  11. I was diagnosed with asthma two weeks ago too. That was good timing I thought 😳

    But it does kind of make my point above. If the death rate is less than 0.5% what the hell are we playing at?! Isolate the vulnerable who are likely to need hospital treatment or at risk of dying and let the rest of the country get on with it.

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  12. Stuart you say we are overreacting. I take it you are fairly young and fit. I don’t see why people who may have underlying health problems should die before their time. Anyway in Italy reasonably young medical staff are dying. If you loses loved one unnecessarily it doesn’t help the bereaved to quote statistics at them. Show some caring.

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  13. Groucho:
    Stuart you say we are overreacting. I take it you are fairly young and fit. I don’t see why people who may have underlying health problems should die before their time. Anyway in Italy reasonably young medical staff are dying. If you loses loved one unnecessarily it doesn’t help the bereaved to quote statistics at them. Show some caring.

    No, I have asthma. I’m deemed high risk.

    But please point me in the direction of where I said those with underlying health problems should die before their time? I said they are the ones who should be on lockdown. That’s for their own safety and it will also massively reduce the burden on the NHS as it’s generally them who are needing health care.

    So yes, I still say we have over reacted massively. There was another way in which we could have not ranked the economy for now and the future, reduced the deaths of the vulnerable and eased pressure on the NHS.

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  14. Stuart sorry to hear you have asthma. Strange how prevalent it seems to be now. When I was at school, which was more years ago than I care to remember, a pal of mine had asthma, but he was the only one I came across. I apologise if I read more in to it than I should have done regarding people with underlying health problems. I am in favour of the lockdown and we should have done it earlier. The fact that most will get the virus only mildly is irrelevant because they will ultimately pass it on to those who won’t get it in mild form. I think we will have to agree to disagree. We may have to wait for the results of the inevitable enquiry after this is all over.

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  15. You’re right. It should be after this has all finished we decide who did the right thing. The Swedes are refusing to lock down anything. Everything still open and they have circa 3,000 people with it officially.

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  16. Stuart
    At least 3 weeks ago Italy was only allowing 1 person from a household to go out for essential supplies. The disease has still spread.
    One of the daftest things they did was to prevent people fleeing from the north of Italy to the south before announcing the lock down.
    Trump learned nothing from that as thousands of New Yorkers are pouring into Florida every day and obviously bringing the disease with them and probably contaminating others on the flight as well as the local Floridians.. The hospitals where my son and daughter in law work are being pushed to the limit.

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  17. We could do with another thread perhaps? Getting quite long this one…

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  18. Another thing that governments should recall is the spread of the Spanish Flu which was reckoned to have killed between 50 million and 100 million people Worldwide. In the Spring of 1918 many caught and survived the epidemic. The second wave started in the early Autumn of that year and it was this second wave that caused the millions of fatalities. Sadly , most of those fatalities were aged between 18 and 49 all of whom were in previous good health.
    Let us hope we are ready , just in case history repeats.

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  19. Sidekick – The most draconian of draconian lock downs can’t stop a second wave if it comes. Only thing that can stop that will be a vaccine. That’s on its way but maybe 12 months away. Funnily enough herd immunity would stand a country in good stead of a second wave but that’s not ideal.

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  20. Stuart – That’s what I meant about being ready. Scientists can possibly get a vaccine ready in months but will the Government allow it to be used before they have done many more months of exhaustive tests on it to determine its effectiveness , both for the virus and on the possible side effects?
    Tough decisions to be made.

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  21. They have to test for side effects that is for sure. Imagine not doing and finding out the side effect is death! That’s not a good look for government unless you’re a despot!

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  22. I see the club haven’t disappointed yet again. They’ve told fans groups they have no plans to give payment holidays to supporters who are paying monthly for their season ticket and are even taking full payments out of accounts for next season.

    PR is stunning.

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  23. Sidekick, the second wave possibility is what scares me the most i think as it would surely be more deadly than the first .

    I see a poor lassie just 21 has died now, no underlying health issues either.

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  24. Interesting that nobody is queuing like mad outside A+E now are they? There isn’t GP surgeries that are rammed packed.

    This whole crisis will show how much the NHS is utterly abused by the “I’ve paid for it so I will use it” attitude.

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  25. I had a text msg from my GP to say no one to phone for advice on coronavirus but to use 111 service online .

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  26. Stuart mate. Not everybody is like that. Me Mam who is 78, has high cholesterol , and does regular checkups. Her GP called her to ask her to delay an appointment with all of this going on and she was happy to oblige.

    Anyway, I think that is the last fcking place I would want to be. A hospital or drs surgery at the moment! Lots of sick people in close proximity… Going in to be checked and waiting for the results!

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  27. I mean, unless I was sure I have this virus I wouldn’t want to be in a confined space drs waiting room catching what everybody else has!

    But there are so many panic merchants out there at the moment that they are scaring people.

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  28. Eric Sykes:
    I mean, unless I was sure I have this virus I wouldn’t want to be in a confined space drs waiting room catching what everybody else has!

    But there are so many panic merchants out there at the moment that they are scaring people.

    Eric, go to A+E or a Dr’s waiting room in normal times in the UK. Hundreds and hundreds of idiots wanting a doctor because they’ve got a sore neck, a cough, a runny nose, a sore throat, a stubbed toe or aching back. It’s ridiculous. People wouldn’t take the piss like this if you had to pay £20 every time.

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  29. Well Stuart, if you only glance in the general direction of a Doctor over here they charge you $200. The medical insurance costs are out of control and many employers have $3,000 deductibles to try to save money. That means the patient has to pat the first 3k if you don’t know how it works. I broke my arm a few years ago and they charged me $800 for an x-ray.

    Don’t get sick in America.

    I also saw what these Doctors make to afford their mansions and lake houses because I sold insurance to them. It would not be uncommon for $500k to a million dollars.

    If you have corona virus over here you better have good medical insurance which will cost your employer or you a fortune but at least you wont go bankrupt.

    If you don’t have insurance you will be bankrupt. A friend had heart surgery and saw the bill and it was $300,000. Luckily his wife had good insurance.

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  30. So, you can complain about the NHS and people taking advantage but it will not send you to a D!ckensian poorhouse if you need care. Like it will here for many people.

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  31. I have actually sold medical insurance over here and know what it costs. It is disgusting. 4 x what it cost in New Zealand. And I have played golf with these Drs who have a meal ticket for life and trophy wives.

    Stuart, if you think the NHS system is bad you should look at the US system. If I tried, I am not sure if I could design anything worse.

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  32. I wouldn’t be so quick to blame the patients. I have never met a bunch of entitled, braggartly c@nts as Drs in the US. Seriously, I know a lot via business and also my ex-in laws.

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  33. Eric – I was in Florida for a month last year and got a really sore throat. My daughter in law said I needed to see a doctor. She could have taken me to a walk in clinic where I could have waited some time to see a doctor at God knows what price but she took me to Publix. I paid $59 to speak to a doctor on videolink in a booth next to their pharmacy counter. Dr was able to look down my throat on camera and said I had a septic throat and that I needed a 10 day course of penicillin .
    Ten minutes later the pharmacy received my prescription on line and gave me the tablets . I was quite surprised to be told there was no charge for the penicillin .
    I was quite impressed by this service and my throat cleared up within a week.

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  34. sidekick: they have nurses in the pharmacies here that do a really good job for a reasonable fee, something like what you paid. This is as much a reaction to the extortion of the rest of the health care system. I get on my hobby/high horse when it come to this as I have had no good experiences with Drs /Hospitals either in the US or UK. I have had misdiagnosises and botched operations. It is just a sore point with me and I shouldn’t rant about it.

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  35. Lots of people clapping for carers.

    Sports persons and celebs donating millions to tackle Corona crisis.

    And Mike Ashley is doing his bit too. He’s gonna open the car parks round SJP and only charge NHS workers and everyone else full price. Nice one Mike – you the man

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  36. The clapping for the NHS thing is the same as when people change their Facebook profile pic after a terrorist attack. It really makes no difference.

    I see the PM has got it. Mild symptoms.

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  37. Stu, well it lets them know how much we appreciate what they are doing and going through, so yes it does make a difference.

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  38. my baby girl (41) is a paramedic the abuse she gets from some are really bad,now she cannot go home to hubby and child,has to stay in hotel,dont think she will take 12 weeks of that without seeing her child,hope some people think of that,also they are on normal pay yet the controller behind a desk in no danger getting double time if they turn in,it stinks

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  39. Ice, i can never understand why idiots feel the need to abuse any NHS staff. S hit for brains those idiots.
    Hope your girl stays safe and all our NHS heroes .

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  40. And to think the tories blocked a pay rise for nurses back in 2017, when this is all over i hope they get a decent rise.

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  41. Abusing people doing their jobs is just ridiculous. Guaranteed it’s young lads. Need a good hiding.

    Regards the money – the people in the NHS need to take it while they can. We won’t be able to afford a NHS of any note when this is all done and dusted.

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  42. I hope your daughter stays well through this epidemic Ice. She is doing a wonderful but harrowing job and we should all be grateful to her and her colleagues.
    I can understand your concerns for her .
    Kim, I hope Hazel is feeling a bit better now.

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  43. Stuart , the NHS will save some £billions on our leaving the EU.
    The money that the Government is having to spend to get the Country through these difficult times will need to be repaid .
    This will be done in changes to our tax , with our allowance being reduced and by the rate in £ we pay being increased. I will have no complaint with these changes provided that the rich tax dodgers and the big business tax dodgers are made to pay what they really should.

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  44. I think Jurgen Klopp is incredibly charismatic and entertaining but I don’t agree with what he says about not talking football in these troubled times. I think escapism, even for an hour or two is called for. The problem is that there is nothing really to talk about. The papers are not even making stuff up anymore.

    The Guardian is doing stuff like asking fans the best game they ever went to. Of course it is Mancs and Scousers and from 1999 or 1985. It’s about as interesting as watching paint dry or watching grass grow.

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  45. If you want an encapsulation of how little is going on football-wise it is the toilet roll keepy-up challenge. Almost as vacuous as dabbing, which I still don’t really understand what it is about and have zero interest in googling to find out.

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  46. There is a point to me referencing dabbing BTW. Pogba did some Instagram thing saying to dab to save us all from Covid-19. Made no sense.

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  47. Sidekick, thanks, Hazel seems bit better, don’t think it was covid, more a heavy cold . She is still staying away though for time being .

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  48. Haven’t been downtown Kimtoon but it is pretty calm around me. Some people out and about but all of the restaurants and bars are closed. There are about 25 within a few minutes walk so it is usually busier.

    People walking dogs and joggers mainly.

    I am avoiding the TV news totally. Can’t take their hyperbole normally so with this going on I think it would drive me mad. The British TV “news” is almost as bad – 99% doom and gloom in normal times and then a “feel good” story about a lost puppy being rescued. It is unwatchable.

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  49. You don’t even need TV news for the weather now what with internet apps. I have been self isolating from TV news for many years now. And Trump has made it worse. Seeing his fat head on TV everyday made me withdraw completely from TV news. I read the papers a bit though so am not totally withdrawn 🙂

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  50. So the football “Authorities” are going to make a decision on whether to cancel the season next week!!!!

    DONE AND DUSTED. There will be no more football for us until next season no matter how the health panic/scare/pandemic pans out.

    Liverpool will be crowned champions with an asterisk that the Red Mancs will forever hold against them.

    So, we will have a 22 team PL league next season.

    The only good thing I can see coming out of all of this is that the Mackems will remain in the 3rd Division (or League 1 as they call it now). Still 3rd of 4 divisions whatever PR men say.

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  51. It has all been obvious as to whether there would be a resumption on April 3rd. That was never going to happen. The only questions were whether they could finish the season and how promotion and relegations would work out.

    If they VOID the season the sh!t will really hit the fan, as they say here. Just no way that can happen Maddam Brady. I think there would be riots. But with everybody self isolating who would riot 🙂

    Promotions, but no relegations. Liverpool Champions with an asterisk. Red Mancs happy that red bindippers didn’t really win the PL (in their opinion) and didn’t get the highest points total in history. Mackems totally fcked because they really needed promotion.

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  52. So annoying, only 10 lge games left as well. Still in the grand scheme of things i don’t see how we can do anything else.

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  53. Kimtoon: things have moved on. I always knew they could not resume April 3 but was hopeful that it might happen in May or June. That appears to have been wishful thinking and the fact the PL etc will make an announcement next week makes me certain the season will be cancelled.

    Hopefully not VOIDED.

    I think it will be a good thing for Leeds and West Brom to Join the PL.

    Pity that West Ham will stay up though.

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  54. There is a massive difference between the season being CANCELLED and the season being VOIDED. I might want to get on the phone to Madam Baroness Sun Columnist D!ildo Brothers apologist Brady and explain it to her.

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  55. It would effect the integrity of the PL much more if they just finished the season now. You can’t in all consciousness have clubs relegated and teams not promoted with ten games left. That would be open to more legal claims than if they just voiced the season and claimed Force Majeure. At least that way no club is in a worse position than they were in August 2019.

    It really must be voided – start again and forget about this season. Extraordinary situations call for extraordinary decisions.

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  56. Also I can’t help but think the people are wanting some sort of resolution to this season because it’s Liverpool who were going to win the league. If it was City then it wouldn’t be such a consideration. Unfortunately for Liverpool, WBA and Leeds they’ve just been unlucky.

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  57. I do feel for Liverpool fans though, imagine if it were us, long stretch i know but all the same, you would be gutted and Pool have been so good for two seasons now.

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  58. Stu, it’s the amount of infection rate all in one go mate, it’s overwhelming every countries health systems, it’s manifesting in a very different way to regular flu, that’s the difference.
    If we had and when we do have a vaccine things will calm down, until then we have to be ultra careful, this is a nasty virus and no one is really safe from it. It’s a game of roulette whether you react mildly to it or not.

    I had double lobel pneumonia in my 30’s , it was bacteria and treated in hospital with antibiotics, I had pluerisy with it too. Coughing up blood and gasping for every breath with a raging temp as well. Not a road i wanna go down again .
    This b ugger is viral so no help other than your immune systems ability to fight it off and therein lies the issue.
    Horrible and frightening way to go, and all alone too .

    I get that it’s screwing with economy and our liberties and it’s a major pain but better safe than sorry.

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  59. Kim – we can’t keep on like this for 3 months. It’s not feasible. There will come a point where the gvt have to make a decision. Eventually we will have to re start the economy regardless of whether we have eradicated the virus or not.

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  60. Climate Change Karma?

    Loads of people saying they can’t wait to get back to normal. Could it be that our normal is what brought on this crisis in the first place? It’s certainly what’s brought on climate change.

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  61. georgio:
    Climate Change Karma?

    Loads of people saying they can’t wait to get back to normal. Could it be that our normal is what brought on this crisis in the first place? It’s certainly what’s brought on climate change.

    That thought had crossed my mind too mate, when you look at Venice and how clear the water is. Going for a stroll yesterday and the air seemed so much fresher to me, it’s strange and eerie, very surreal feeling.
    I do wonder if any change long term will come from the fall out of this .

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  62. Stuart79:
    Kim – we can’t keep on like this for 3 months. It’s not feasible. There will come a point where the gvt have to make a decision. Eventually we will have to re start the economy regardless of whether we have eradicated the virus or not.

    I don’t know what they will do Stu, as you say, can we go on for more than 3 months ?. Personally i don’t think we are any way near the peak of deaths yet sadly.
    Reckon folk will get well clobbered with tax hikes once the dust settles. Gov are gonna want to claw back as much as possible.
    Lot’s of businesses will never come back that’s for sure.
    Also a lot of people are gonna learn just how hard life is for people on universal credit and that it’s not the free ride they think it is. Lot’s of different lessons gonna get learnt in the coming weeks and months, not least patience .

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  63. Actually this was the kind of thing these Extension Rebellion knacka’s wanted. To achieve what they want in the time frame they want we’d need to do this. If anything this will show how it’s not possible to do what they want so fast without serious consequences for people’s lives.

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  64. Karren Brady saying PL teams are willing to play in July to finish the season. Maybe that’s what will come out of this meeting next week and not a cancellation of the season? Hope so.

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  65. Brady actually being sensible for once. The right thing for all of these chairmen of clubs to do is to defer any decision until there is more information.

    I don’t trust them though. Even though cancelling is not in mosts best interest.

    Voiding is beneficial to the bottom 6 who fear relegation so I can see them wanting this outcome, as Ms Brady’s initial stance was.

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  66. Stu – nobody has suggested beyond 3 months yet. If you look at China they are now recording around 100 new cases a day – they have levelled right off. On top of that, we are far further down the line with regards to finding vaccines and ways to tackle this virus (from when China hit their peak).

    But let’s be honest here – 3 months?!
    There are people who haven’t even managed 3 days FFS!!!.
    Are we really been asked to sacrifice THAT much in order to help the NHS and do all we can to try and avoid this virus being passed to our elderly and most vulnerable.

    Sorry mate but there are some truly selfish ar$ehole$ in this World.

    We are talking a period of as little as 3 months here – it’s a sad state of affairs if people are honestly saying they can do it less than a week in.

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  67. Sharpy17:
    Stu – nobody has suggested beyond 3 months yet.If you look at China they are now recording around 100 new cases a day – they have levelled right off.On top of that, we are far further down the line with regards to finding vaccines and ways to tackle this virus (from when China hit their peak).

    But let’s be honest here – 3 months?!
    There are people who haven’t even managed 3 days FFS!!!.
    Are we really been asked to sacrifice THAT much in order to help the NHS and do all we can to try and avoid this virus being passed to our elderly and most vulnerable.

    Sorry mate but there are some truly selfish ar$ehole$ in this World.

    We are talking a period of as little as 3 months here – it’s a sad state of affairs if people are honestly saying they can do it less than a week in.

    I’ve not said people aren’t doing it after only a week. I’m saying we our economy cannot be shut down for more than three months. It’s not possible for the gvt to continue to just keep paying everyone’s wages and not expect business’ to fail. It’s also not realistic to expect it to just carry on as normal when it’s over.

    The point is, Sharpy, we are going to reach a point where keeping everything shut down causes more harm than good. I’d suggest anything longer than end of May will enter that category.

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  68. Stu – 3/4 months ago I’d have doubted they would have even consider it. But actually, I do think they likely have a plan going forward. It probably helps that they have just done a budget too really.

    I think there’s a strong likelihood that our taxes will increase – by how much, only time will tell.
    I think there are around 30 million tax payers in the UK though. If they increase their taxes by £20 a month – which is a takeaway really. That would raise around £800m a year.
    I know they are talking trillions not millions to fight this virus, but it’s a start.

    They are clearly conscious of beyond the 3 months because they are allowing building work to carry on.
    Also, online shopping is still happening – and this might sound very cold, but there is also economy in death – though nowhere near retail and tourism obviously.

    I agree with you that anything beyond 3 months would be a concern and potentially very difficult to overcome.
    But that is why the focus needs to be on the immediate future. This is going to peak in the next 2-3 weeks so everyone needs to do their bit just now – the more they do, the quicker we can get out of the other end.

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