The worst £115m we’ve ever spent? – The ultimate XI of NUFC flops..

It would be pretty safe to say that Newcastle have signed a few stinkers over the years, so we thought what better to do than stick them in an all-time starting line-up for your own enjoyment!

Lining up in a tragic 3-4-3 formation, these players are bound to have had smoke blowing out of your ears at some point during your time as a fan…

STARTING 11:

GK – Matz Sels (£5m)

Signed ahead of the Championship season in 16/17, Sels was bought from Belgian side Gent for a reported £6.5million. One of Rafa Benitez’s worst signings, it didn’t take him long to lose the trust of the Spaniard. A calamitous error late on at Villa Park caused the Geordie faithful to turn on Sels just nine games into the campaign, with shot-stopper Karl Darlow proving a success for the remainder of the season. The Belgian’s career has since improved, as he is earning plaudits between the sticks for French side Strasbourg.

CB – Jean-Alain Boumsong (£8m)

A truly shocking signing, Boumsong was signed for £8million despite Rangers acquiring his services on a free transfer just five months earlier. The pick of a bad bunch of signings made during Graeme Souness’ time at the club, a string of poor performances saw Boumsong swiftly shifted out the door at St James’ Park just 18 months after his arrival, with Juventus – playing in Italy’s second tier after relegation due to match-fixing – stumping up £3million to take him off our hands. Terrible business!

CB – Titus Bramble (£5m)

Sir Bobby persuaded Freddy Shepherd to depart with £5million for Bramble back in July 2002, only for him to be voted ‘worst player in the Premier League’ by football newsletter The Fiver the following season. Boumsong’s partner in crime, Bramble helped create quite the comical double act during the mid-naughties for rival fans. One follower on our Facebook page claims he even saw opposition supporters celebrate when he came on as a sub! Bramble did go some way to make it up to us a few years later, however, when he got sent off in a Sunderland shirt for a tackle on Andy Carroll in that memorable 5-1 thrashing back in October 2010.

CB – Marcelino (£6m)

Signed for a whopping £5.8million back in 1999, it would be hard to find a Premier League centre-half made of glass more than Marcelino. We paid a hefty sum of money for his services considering the time period, and Marcelino repaid that faith by managing just 17 appearances in four seasons to cement his spot in our ‘Flop XI.’ He will best be remembered for damaging a tendon in his finger, which ruled him out of action for three months and caused hysterics on Tyneside at the time, with the Spaniard having the cheek in recently to say he was treated unfairly during his spell at the club!

RM – Remy Cabella (£10m)

Signed by Alan Pardew in 2014 for £12million, fans had hoped that Cabella’s style would see a mouth-watering blend of Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa who came before him, but what we really got was a player who just couldn’t be bothered in a black and white shirt. It is hard to believe he made 34 appearances in his only season for us, as he literally did nothing worthy of note while he played here. Now on the wrong side of 30, Cabella currently plys his trade for Russian club Krasnodar, where he once again struggles to make an impact… playing just twice since his 2019 arrival.

CM – Henri Saviet (£5m)

It’s crazy to think that Saviet is still contracted to the club, with his current deal not expected to end until summer 2021. A clear downside of the club’s ‘long contract’ policy, his £45k a week wages mean that the Senegal international has cost the club around £14million since his arrival – for just five appearances in return! The sooner this man is moved on the better.

CM – Ignacio González (Loan)

Who? You might ask. Well, considering he made just two loan appearances Gonzales certainly had a major impact on the fortunes of our club – only for the worse. When Dennis Wise signed Gonzales – despite only watching him play on YouTube – above Keegan’s head it proved the final straw for King Kev, who had just had to watch James Milner sold to Aston Villa without having a voice. Keegan claimed in his autobiography that this deal was made as a ‘favour’ to two South American agents, which just sounds like pure corruption to us. Following Keegan’s departure, we would go on to have another three managers in a season that would ultimately end in relegation. A costly mistake to say the least!

LM – Florian Thauvin (£13m)

Brought in as part of the deal that saw Remy Cabella end his disastrous spell at the club, Thauvin proved to be every bit as bad as his French compatriot. We could easily just cut-and-paste the above section about Cabella and place it in here, as his influence on Tyneside was almost identical, with Thauvin even wearing the same shirt number! He managed just six months in the North-East, before being sent back to Marseille on loan, where he has been ever since. He states that criticism he received for wearing a tuxedo on match-days severely affected his performances, yeah right! The annoying thing is, he has turned out to be quite some player since his return to France, earning his way into the national squad. In truth, he clearly has talent, but never wanted to be here and proved to be a real waste of money and time.

RF – Xisco (£6m)

One of the worst pieces of business in the Mike Ashley era, Xisco was brought in by Dennis Wise alongside the previously mentioned Gonzales. Signed for £6million and on a 5-year contract worth a ridiculous £60,000 a week, the Spanish striker actually scored on his debut, a 2-1 defeat to Hull City, but that was all we got. He struggled in his next eight appearances and spent the remaining four years of his time here on loan, costing us a disgusting £14million in the process. Add that to the £6million paid for his services, and you can bet that the signing of XIsco isn’t the wisest £20million Mike Ashley has spent! The Chronicle rightly named him as one of Newcastle United’s worst-ever strikers back in 2013.

ST – Michael Owen (£17m)

Easily the most disliked player on this list, Owen spent the majority of his time here either injured, or wishing he was back at Liverpool. A club-record signing, Owen was expected to fill the void left by the ageing Alan Shearer once he retired, but all Toon fans got in return was a player who literally bled the club dry. £110,000 a week makes him the highest-paid player in our club’s history, yet all he has done since his departure is tear into the club’s fanbase while openly admitting he chose not to play in our crunch clash with Aston Villa on the final day of the 08/09 season. Figures estimate that his time at the club cost us around £45million, with him leaving to join Manchester United on a free following relegation. So aye, thanks for absolutely nothing, Michael!

LF – Joelinton (£40M)

It may seem harsh to include the Brazillian at this stage, as he still has the opportunity to turn his life around at St James’ Park, especially given his age. But £40million is just too much of a price tag to ignore. Given the fact we have never spent this sort of money on a player before, a goal return of 1 in 29 Premier League appearances blows every other contender out the park for a spot in this team. Everyone reading this obviously wishes for Joelinton’s fortunes to change at the club, but for now, at least, he must accept his place up front!

Manager – Steve McClaren

The only manager that Mike Ashley has truly backed at St James’ Park, Steve McClaren is an absolute shoo-in to be the man leading this Newcastle side out. He was given a whopping £80million to assemble a side with the likes of Gini Wijnaldum, Jonjo Shelvey, Andros Townsend and Aleksandr Mitrovic but still couldn’t keep us up! Most Newcastle fans gave him a chance despite a wobbly CV, probably with blinded optimism following the depressing reign of John Carver. Rafa Benitez eventually took us down despite going undefeated in our last five league games, with everybody who knows anything about football attributing that relegation down to McClaren.

SUBS:

John Karlese – Signed by Rudd Gullit for £1million in 1998, the goalkeeper made three appearances for us, conceding four on his debut against Southampton. A real waste of what was good money back then!

Yanga-Mbiwa – Billed as the future of our defence when signed in 2013 after captaining Montpellier to Ligue 1 glory, the Frenchman didn’t get anywhere close to expectations.

Siem De Jong – Another injury-ravaged player to steal a living at our club, Siem De Jong played 22 times in three years, scoring one goal. His brother, Luuk, was just as bad!

Albert Luque – Ironically, his name is still sung due to his late hammer blow to ‘wrap up’ a 4-1 win over Sunderland in 2006. This proved to be his only league goal for the club after a £9million move.

Stephane Guivarch – Big things were expected from the 1998 World Cup winner, but he proved to be another flop. 1 solitary goal against Liverpool is all he did in a Newcastle shirt before being sold to Rangers 4 months after his arrival.

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152 thoughts on “The worst £115m we’ve ever spent? – The ultimate XI of NUFC flops..

  1. Sharpy17: Stu – I accept politicians are human beings and will make mistakes.I’m not calling for them to be sacked on a slight indiscretion – but they should certainly be held accountable.

    Of course Vaz should have been sacked.Buying drugs for other people isn’t just a sackable offence, it’s a criminal offence.

    We need to raise this bar though by holding people to account and demanding action – because these people are above the rules they set for us to operate in and that’s wrong.

    Cummings is not an elected politician and yet was given the opportunity to come out and example.If he came out, held his hands up and said he was wrong, then fair enough – the ramifications of his actions are minimal – he p!ssed some people off.No laws were broken and nobody died – anyone suggesting otherwise is just wrong.
    But coming out with this eye testing tale and maintaining he was in the right.That makes him untrustworthy imo, and that is something we should be demanding of our politicians mate.

    Maybe he Just thinks he’s right, Sharpy, not a liar.

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  2. Kim
    I know that you live hundreds of miles from the North east and I can excuse your error on the distance from Mr Cummings Durham home to Barnard Castle.
    The actual road distance between them is 15 miles.
    The round trip is 30 miles.

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  3. Stu, you are spot on, i am fixated with him. I am angry that he chose to insult the british people with a pile of horse do do.
    I am angry that the police have seemingly said it’s fine to test dodgy vision by driving 60 miles with family in the car putting you , your family and other road users at risk.
    I am beyond angry that Gove says he did the same thing further compounding the insult in a feeble attempt to justify Demonics actions.

    Is it any different to your fixation with remainers, seems to me brexit supporters are the only ones still banging on about brexit. The rest of us are just trying to follow the rules of lockdown and trying to stay alive.

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  4. Stuart79: Maybe he Just thinks he’s right, Sharpy, not a liar.

    Stu – oh I’m pretty certain he knows he’s wrong, but he’s never going to admit it – whether that’s his decision or Boris we’ll never know either I reckon. But even you think he was wrong (or wouldn’t have dont it), that’s not the bit we are chewing over – it’s the punishment we can’t agree on.

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  5. The Chronic have put Ryder on NUFC accounts duty. I read his article on it and a monkey would make more sense. I might comment on it later, but it is so full of holes I think my brain would explode. I thought Little Chrissy Waugh knew nothing about finance and then up steps Wor Lee to prove Chrissy is Warren Buffett in comparison.

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  6. I also think you CAN look at Cummings’ actions in isolation. He put peoples’ lives at risk in Downing Street and if he is to believed that he doubted his ability to drive due to poor eyesight then he put his own wife and child’s lives at risk by er… driving. I don’t care what politician have done before or will do after. We can judge his actions in the here and now. It is just total BS on his part.

    Nothing seems to matter in Politics anymore post Trump. They seem to be able to bully and bluster their way out of anything even when half their party turns against them. All they have to do is say “FAKE NEWS” and everything is OK.

    It used to be that the crime was not what mattered most, it was the cover-up. Think Watergate! That doesn’t even apply anymore.

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  7. Stuart Thatcher: you have to understand that I am neither Tony Benn nor Margaret Thatcher. I have no agenda. I think all politicians are self serving crooks whether they be the Clintons or the Blares. I am now in the middle of the road with neither a blue rosette nor a red rosette.

    As I stand in the middle of the road I have a good chance of being run over by people who believe in causes they shouldn’t and people they shouldn’t – Dominic Cummings is just the latest example.

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  8. Good that there can be a civil discourse without getting into name calling and abuse. I can tell you somewhere where that doesn’t happen. Anyway, we have football to look forward to now.

    Well apart from me call Stewie Stuart Thatcher. But that was wholly appropriate 🙂

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  9. Stuart79:
    Perfect example of agendas

    The article or the tweet ?

    I think it shows integrity, it was tweeted after Boris presser the day before cummings presser.
    The person who tweeted surely knew they would get sacked but did it anyway. Fair play i say.

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  10. How is the takeover going? I see now some report from the WTO is due out in mid-June? I thought June 1st was to be the big day? Will the Prem committee wait for the report? And then what? By then play will be starting (June 17th) and after that a short break before the new season? How long can this go on? It’s total nonsense. Grow a set among you on the committee and make a decision about this. It’s unfair to everyone involved. Such incompetence. It reminds me of the UK covid response. Not as important but just as obvious. Look at the US as well. Complete chaos under Trump. Or Brazil. Complete chaos under Bolsonaro. So-called populists are actually just incompetent buffoons.

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  11. G2: normally you are a bit over-flippant and, like, almost nonsense rhymes for me which I didnt even like when I was a kid. But when you get sensible, you make sense 🙂

    Stay away from Alice and Wonderland and we might get along 🙂

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  12. G2 – I saw on SSN today the PL have said they aren’t working to a timeline. I think most expected that with all the focus being on getting the season up and running again ??‍♂️.
    I suppose no news is good news, or certainly better than a no.

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  13. Kimtoon: there was a protest downtown Chicago which turned into looting of a few stores. Now there is a curfew as of 11.30pm. They are showing it on TV live and people seem to have dispersed with more cops than looters.

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  14. To talk about football. I am preaching caution when it comes to the takeover. In really don’t expect them to come in a start splashing hundreds of millions of pounds. I suspect we will see their intentions and ambitions with what they do with the manager first of all.

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  15. Stuart79:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8372911/Boris-puts-Dominic-Cummings-chance-one-witness-admits-sighting-aide.html

    Dear oh dear. There really are some sad people.

    Whatever other people did, their lies or stories does not change the fact that Cummings went to Downing Street when he suspected he or a family member had CV-19 or that he was making **** up about his reason to drive to Bernard Castle.

    Has Boris put him on the pretend naughty step with this “one last chance” routine? It is getting quite comical.

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  16. Stuart79:
    To talk about football. I am preaching caution when it comes to the takeover. In really don’t expect them to come in a start splashing hundreds of millions of pounds. I suspect we will see their intentions and ambitions with what they do with the manager first of all.

    I say throw 150 million on 4 good players in a down market and get Coutinho on loan and Cavani for free to make us immediate top 6. And top 4 contenders.

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  17. Eric, what’s going on over there? Do these idiots who demonstrate using violence and looting not realise they make themselves look utterly stupid and hypocritical? I see it’s even got to London now ffs! Why? What’s it got to do with people here?

    Surely it can’t be just based on the fact the guy was black? I mean, treating someone different because of their colour strikes me as being a little racist… When was the last riots and looting that got going when a white person died in a altercation with a police officer?

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  18. Wasn’t a riot in Chicago Stuart from what I saw on the TV coverage here. It was like opportunistic looting from what I saw. The peaceful protesters had moved on and some other people moved in to loot some stores knowing the cops had their hands tied.

    These werent the protesters. The looters drove downtown in the wake of the protests and started looting.

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  19. BTW I am not defending anybody. The looters should have been arrested but the cops couldnt do it.

    Any force would have been seen as “excessive force” so they had to stand down.

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  20. The government are loosening some restrictions. The lockdown is still pretty extreme yet I find it impossible to think that people will stick to these restrictions. When did the government say everyone should rich to the beach? The pictures of the beaches is outrageous. No social distancing in play at all.

    Is it a given that we will get another spike? I have to say, I think we need to lift the lockdown but this is such a complicated situation now I really don’t know how anybody could keep track of what’s what. Everyone has different scenarios and circumstances and with so many different people sticking to the rules to different degrees I think it will become a bit of a free for all.

    I just hope we don’t jump on the governments back again when clearly this is now going to be down to individuals doing as they should.

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  21. Well, it’s the cummings effect Stu, people feel mugged of and see it as one rule for them and one for us. Knew this would happen.

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  22. The Cummings effect , ha ha ha – I like it.
    I think i’ll call it the Labour effect.
    Rosie Duffield MP has admitted she broke the lockdown rules to spend some time with her married lover.
    The list of Labour MP’s breaking lockdown rules just gets longer. 😀

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  23. Wow, this is now a political blog! Even I’m impressed. The chaotic side of the US is now on full view. We see it all the time here in Canada. Unbelievable amount of discord down there. Racism at the highest levels (“there were good people on both sides” as one comment by Trump after a White Supremacist rally). Total disaster of a country now with no values other than greed. Most of the relief aid money went to wealthy individuals and companies (over 2 trillion dollars). Trump is a criminal (unindicted co-conspirator with his buddy Cohen for bribing women to stay quiet before the last election as well as the Trump University payoff instead of jail time). The US is completely out of control. Britain has its own problems but nothing like this. An international disgrace.

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  24. The pandemic is a measure of a country’s ability to follow rules for health and safety. The US has no ability to follow any rules at all (led by the prime rule breaker Donald Trump). They are facing continued disaster. Britain has been poorly led during the pandemic and before by Johnson. The per capita deaths from covid clearly show it. Poorly led countries are doing terribly as far as per capita deaths are concerned. Poor leadership is fully exposed now and it doesn’t come down to political rhetoric, it comes down to numbers, facts, and statistics. Vote to remove buffoons before it’s too late. The buffoons all promote right wing values among which racism, stupidity, and refusal to face facts are hidden with political sayings and meaningless bluster. It’s a new era of fascism hidden as populism. It looks a lot like the 1930’s with Hitler and Mussolini. Be aware before it’s too late and remove these people as quickly as possible. Trump, Boris, Bolsonaro must go.

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  25. sidekick:
    The Cummings effect ,ha ha ha – I like it.
    I think i’ll call it the Labour effect.
    Rosie Duffield MP has admitted she broke the lockdown rules to spend some time with her married lover.
    The list of Labour MP’s breaking lockdown rules just gets longer.

    And she has resigned .

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  26. Agree with you on easing the lockdown too soon Kim.
    I was a bit worried on Thursday and sent my wife out to the supermarket so we now have enough stock to allow us to stay at home for some weeks.
    Last week we had a total of 35 cases , an average of 5 per day, and today we have 115 new cases.
    Huge jump – not looking good. 🙁

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  27. sidekick:
    Agree with you on easing the lockdown too soon Kim.
    I was a bit worried on Thursday and sent my wife out to the supermarket so we now have enough stock to allow us to stay at home for some weeks.
    Last week we had a total of 35 cases , an average of 5 per day,and today we have 115 new cases.
    Huge jump – not looking good.

    Yeah, huge worry mate i agree.

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  28. The professor who has been telling all the press that we have come out of lockdown too soon is the same one who said in February Boris was right to continue shaking hands and that it was wrong to close the schools in March. These scientists are lots of things. Consistent isn’t one of them.

    Btw – we haven’t come out of lockdown. We’re starting to come out of lockdown slowly. There’s a big difference and it’s not practice or financially possible for us to stay locked down any longer. We have to draw a line in the sand. Crippling the country for a virus that has a death rate of 0.5% is ridiculous.

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  29. Just the few thousand out this evening in London protesting. Will that be the governments fault or just Dominic Cummins?

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  30. Stuart79:
    Just the few thousand out this evening in London protesting. Will that be the governments fault or just Dominic Cummins?

    neither .
    But i cannot condemn them either, they are speaking out in solidarity with Americans over the killing of an unarmed man in custody .
    Lock people down for weeks and anger and frustration grows, a murder like that will always cause outrage and protest.
    The looting is wrong, the protest are not .
    As for the Brits, well I guess they think they are following their instincts and showing solidarity with their US friends.

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  31. Stu, by the way we are getting 8,000 cases a day here so protest or no protest the virus is the same daily infection rate as before we went into lockdown. It’s a shame that given they had suppressed it somewhat in London that it will likely spike again now due to protest and easing of lockdown rules.

    Hopefully they lockdown London to stop it spreading and a certain PM’s advisor doing another moonlight flit to Durham.

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  32. It’s ok kimtoon. Stuart Thatcher will forgive and immediately forget any indescresion/lie by anybody who wears a blue rosette.

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  33. A cop murdering a black man on video was not what we needed. The orange man baby’s reaction shows him to be the fool we always knew he was.

    #WorstCrisisManagerEver

    It is quite funny that somebody who governs by Twitter is now going after twitter.

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  34. Eric Sykes:
    A cop murdering a black man on video was not what we needed. The orange man baby’s reaction shows him to be the fool we always knew he was.

    #WorstCrisisManagerEver

    It is quite funny that somebody who governs by Twitter is now going after twitter.

    Yeah,the irony of it .

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  35. Chicago has shut down most public transport. But watch out! There will be real trouble tomorrow. On an international news scale.

    The temperature is set to get to 91 degrees. 33 degrees Celsius.

    That usually means mayhem when there is a powder keg ready to go off.

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  36. 8,000 a day Kim. So what? What about the 10,000’s of thousands who are going through hell with mental health issues which are made tens times worse due to lockdown? What about the millions whose lives are about to get shattered into a million pieces because they will lose their jobs? What about the 100,000’s who will be poverty stricken from this lock down? What about the millions of kids who’s education is being ruined and potentially set them back for l ever? No? Not fussed about them or only bothered about the 0.05% of the population that has died due to Covid?

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  37. If we went any slower on loosening the lockdown we’d start rolling back down the hill…

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  38. Unfortunately Stuart I think you will find that Kim does care about these people. That is why for the last 10 years she has not been supporting a Tory government that has deliberately enacted policies which have exacerbated the problems these people have. Cuts to mental health, cuts to social security cuts to youth services. 100,000s of people who have died as a direct result of Austerity and back to work schemes for the disabled. Cuts to education, the introduction of the most stupid curriculum any teacher has ever seen. Shame you have not been voting against such measures but actually actively supporting them. the idea that Tories care for any of those you list would be laughable if it wasn’t so sick.

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  39. Stuart79:
    8,000 a day Kim. So what? What about the 10,000’s of thousands who are going through hell with mental health issues which are made tens times worse due to lockdown? What about the millions whose lives are about to get shattered into a million pieces because they will lose their jobs? What about the 100,000’s who will be poverty stricken from this lock down? What about the millions of kids who’s education is being ruined and potentially set them back for l ever? No? Not fussed about them or only bothered about the 0.05% of the population that has died due to Covid?

    Can’t believe you just said that ‘ so what ‘, i hope you or one of your nearest and dearest don’t get it. Did you think ‘ so what ‘ when Boris got it ? I know i didn’t, i was genuinely gutted for him. NO ONE deserves this awful disease, no one.

    You talk about mental health and poverty, what about all the families that are bereaved from the loss of loved one to covid? It may well be the main bread winner that died in any one of the 38,000 plus dead not to mention the mental health issues associated with not being able to say goodbye in person or a decent send off.
    As for education, half the parents are too scared to send their kids back to school and a lot of teachers are scared too. Anyway kids will catch up soon enough, their futures will not be ruined .

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  40. Oh and what Prem said.
    Didn’t here you saying how worried you were about food bank users and people in poverty prior to the election Stu.

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  41. Just seen the figures for each nation of the UK. England is circa 29,000 deaths. Given we have 55m people I’d say that’s a pretty good outcome when you compare it with Italy, Spain and France. Especially given our population density. Also the other nations of the UK has managed their own lockdown and clogging of lockdown.

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  42. PremAndUp:
    Unfortunately Stuart I think you will find that Kim does care about these people. That is why for the last 10 years she has not been supporting a Tory government that has deliberately enacted policies which have exacerbated the problems these people have. Cuts to mental health, cuts to social security cuts to youth services. 100,000s of people who have died as a direct result of Austerity and back to work schemes for the disabled. Cuts to education, the introduction of the most stupid curriculum any teacher has ever seen. Shame you have not been voting against such measures but actually actively supporting them. the idea that Tories care for any of those you list would be laughable if it wasn’t so sick.

    Continuing to lock the country down is doing exactly what to these people, Prem? Helping them is it?

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  43. kimtoon: Can’t believe you just said that ‘ so what ‘, i hope you or one of your nearest and dearest don’t get it. Did you think ‘ so what ‘ when Boris got it ? I know i didn’t, i was genuinely gutted for him. NO ONEdeserves this awful disease, no one.

    You talk about mental health and poverty, what about all the families that are bereaved from the loss of loved one to covid? It may well be the main bread winner that died in any one of the 38,000 plus dead not to mentionthe mental health issues associated with not being able to say goodbye in person or a decent send off.
    As for education, half the parents are too scared to send their kids back to school and a lot of teachers are scared too. Anyway kids will catch up soon enough, their futures will not be ruined .

    Highly unlikely given the demographics of those that died. Most over 60, almost all high rate of morbidity too.

    The government need to make a decision. People are going to die whatever they do. I believe that there would be less dead caused by lifting lockdown. There’s be less damage done to our children and there’d be less damage done to millions of people’s lives who, if you got your way would be out of work.

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  44. In the cold light of day, Kim, that number is minuscule. The demographic of the deaths show that clearly. It’s about risk now. No good options and there never was but we have to get the country moving and that is that.

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  45. Stu, jobs will come back once we get a proper handle on this disease, even the airlines will flourish again and rehire, people will always want
    Foreign holidays
    to eat out
    to buy useless ****
    buy cars
    buy houses
    drink beer
    watch sport
    take part in sport
    go to concerts
    go to cinemas

    To say those jobs are lost forever is wrong, noone expects us to lock down for ever but having done so well and sacrificed so much in lives and living standards, for the sake of a couple of more weeks it seems daft to exit now. It’s still very active and you may think 29,000 dead isn’t that bad in England (38, 450 in the UK ) BUT it would of been so much worse and could still be yet.
    Look i’m desperate for things to go back to normal but you cannot run before you can walk.

    Anyone see the new law passed today, from 11.30am today, you cannot have sex with anyone from another household, if you are caught you now face prosecution .
    Good luck with that one Boris 😆
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-sex-lockdown-illegal-093127804.html

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  46. Jobs come back… People are losing their livelihoods by the day. They don’t just come back.

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  47. Is it true about Chutney? Has he cleared out his desk? So he’s working out of the back of his car now to save Mikey some money?

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  48. Boris is right. You lot have been having far too much sex. Now calm down and be miserable during the lockdown!

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  49. Sadly a long recovery everywhere from this mess. Governments will fall (hopefully the right ones) and more people will get sick but eventually (hopefully) a vaccine. Otherwise eventually herd immunity but that will take a very long time with distancing measures etc…

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  50. Stu, given the government have been paying 80% of wages i don’t see how there can be that many losing their jobs.

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  51. And simply lifting the lockdown will not magically restore the economy. Scrapping willy waving projects like HS2 and Trident and channeling the money to those who have none will stimulate spending faster than propping up big business and safeguarding tax havens. Jobs a are created by start-ups and small businesses.

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  52. Stuart79:
    Jobs come back… People are losing their livelihoods by the day. They don’t just come back.

    Maybe not the original job but a job will come along.
    I was advertising for a care assistant for over a year at £10.65 an hour, no takers, the work is out there.

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  53. It was about 13 years too short the test for Jabba. I think it was about 3 weeks but this is a whole lot more complicated. Albeit I can’t believe the PL don’t have the bandwidth to complete it within 8 weeks – that is a nonsense. I get the feeling they’re desperately looking for a reason to reject it.

    I have always thought the longer it went on the more likely it was to be rejected. The PL will only have a chance of solving the piracy issue if they approve it. If they reject it they can forget about solving it. In fact it will get harder as Saudi will do absolutely nothing to help. But this is the PL. Do they have the leadership to be strong and do it…

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  54. I still think it’s the relegation fear holding it up. No one will pay that money for a championship club. It would be a different ball game and the Saudis would pull out. We’ll see.

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  55. Stu, part of me is wondering if they are hoping we get relegated from the PL as then it is no longer their problem to deal with .

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