Newcastle 1-2 Leicester: Too little too late as Foxes expose tired Toon’s big weakness

A disappointing display and deserved defeat for Newcastle United here, with us a yard off the pace and blunt in attack against Leicester City.

Goals from James Maddison and Youri Tielemans did the damage as we tired early on in the second half and left too many gaps at the back after steady start.

Andy Carroll scored his first goal for the club in over a decade to give us a glimmer of hope in the final five minutes, however it was a case of too little too late from our perspective, with our urgency to attack and get bodies in the box only coming when the damage had been done.

Wilson was too often isolated, Joelinton and Almiron struggled, our tiring midfield was too easily bypassed and our defence was cut open as a result, being left exposed for both of Leicester’s second half strikes.

The late strike ended our goal drought, but the defeat highlighted how lacking we are in a box-to-box midfielder capable of keeping up at both ends of the field and quality attacking options to supply Callum Wilson when ASM and Fraser are missing.

The results leaves us winless in our last five and stuck in 15th on 19 points after 16 games, with us eight points clear of the bottom three at present.

Steve Bruce made two changes for this one, bringing in Sean Longstaff for the suspended Isaac Hayden and handing Miguel Almiron a recall at the expense of Jacob Murphy:

As we come to expect, Leicester dominated possession in the early stages, having over 70% of the ball in the opening 10 minutes. We were higher up the pitch once again and attempting to press – although this time the visitors were finding gaps and threatening to get in behind.

The danger of a high line is it gives strikers like Jamie Vardy space to get in behind if gaps open up – and he very nearly punished us on two occasions. The first saw Youri Tielemans make a mess of his clever cut-back, then the England striker had the ball in the net minutes later – only for the offside flag to save our blushes.

We were a yard behind them, weren’t always getting tight enough and seemed looser in possession than we were on Wednesday night, however we did have a decent spell midway through the first half, with Joelinton getting a header on goal then being unlucky not to set Wilson in behind after his ball over the top was cut out via a crucial Kasper Schmeichel interception.

This half-decent spell helped stem the tide. Leicester were still having the lions share of possession, but we were working hard all over the pitch and getting a little bit tighter to their key men to deny Vardy of the kind of service he was thriving from in the opening 15 minutes.

One thing that had to improve was our ability to get bodies closer to Wilson – he just 11 touches in the opening 45 – Joelinton’s first touch and our passing from deep, with us often lumping it long (even when we had the chance to build from the back) and the referee Rob Jones having more touches than some of our outfield players in the first half!

That said, we went into the break at 0-0 and had managed to contain a Leicester City that threatened to tear us apart early on. It wasn’t pretty and we had to be better on the ball in the second half, however it was another solid defensive effort – despite a few scares.

The game got back underway and there was immediately a couple of early warning signs as Vardy and Co. got in behind, only for his shot to slice wide of Darlow’s near post.

We got into a few good positions, with Yedlin whipping in a brilliant ball that somehow evaded everyone in black and white and Almiron also had a few attempts to slip Wilson in behind cut out.

Just as we were growing into the game and threatening to cause problems, a Leicester City counter attack saw Harvey Barnes leave the Longstaff brothers for dead and play in Vardy. He cut in and laid the ball back for James Maddison, who lashed a powerful strike beyond a helpless Karl Darlow and into the roof of the net. 0-1 Leicester.

Against the run of play based on our promising start to the second half, but an away goal that always looked likely if they caught us off guard with players out of position and struggling to get back.

The Longstaff’s hadn’t played badly in the middle up until this point, but their lack of pace was badly exposed for the goal, highlighting how badly we need a box-to-box midfielder capable of keeping up with play at both ends of the field.

Murphy and Shelvey then replaced a very disappointing Almiron and Joelinton. The former immediately burst forward and a wicked cross soon followed from Matty Longstaff…but once again no one was in the middle to make the most of it.

Then, five minutes later, it was 0-2 via a combination of brilliant Leicester finishing and dreadful marking from our perspective.

Ritchie was caught sleeping to allow Albrighton all the time in the world to pick out Youri Tielemans in the box. The Belgian still had a lot to do, but with Jonjo Shelvey treading water in his attempt to get back and Matty Longstaff out on his feet, he swept the ball past Karl Darlow expertly.

We were at sixes and sevens at this point and Jamie Vardy smelt blood as he then got in between Schar and Fernandez. His resultant shot rattled to crossbar and Andy Carroll then entered the field with just over 10 minutes remaining – and he made an immediate impact!

His introduction stunk of desperation based on his recent attempts to ‘make an impact’ from the bench, yet he lashed home a volley to score his first for the club in over a decade and hand us a surprise lifeline heading into the final five minutes.

We had Leicester camped in their own half for a spell and were lumping hopeful ball at the big man, but little came of it. That said, Shelvey put a teasing cross that was asking to be finished off, but YET AGAIN there was no one in black and white able to make the most of an inviting ball across the box.

That was that and Leicester held on for a deserved win.

Next up, an FA Cup clash against a much improved Arsenal next weekend!

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205 thoughts on “Newcastle 1-2 Leicester: Too little too late as Foxes expose tired Toon’s big weakness

  1. They have all of these retired generals on TV over here who have allegiances to both parties and Have worked under many Presidents. They all say the same thing that that this was an insurrection led by a deranged President. They all use the word coup and these are ex-CIA, ex-Iraq and Afghanistan so they know a coup when they see it. I have learned bit of history. Last time the Capitol was breached was by the British in the war of 1812.

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  2. Eric Sykes:
    And stop with the false equivalency Stuart. Obama was nothing like Trump. I also think W Bush is a good man who was led astray by NeoCons. You are implicitly defending Trump by saying they are all the same when they are not. You do this all the time. You cannot defend someone so you bring up a straw man who you can attack.

    Can you point me in the direction where I have compared Trump to Obama please? I think called Trump a fruit cake and also said he deserves the criticism. Do you read my posts, Eric?

    You’re proving my point every time you type a comment.

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  3. Stuart: you asked if Obama should take some responsibility. Do you read your own posts?

    This is all on Trump. He is the one who stirred people up with conspiracy theories and hate talk. He is the one where there was a white supremacist rally and he called them “good people”. He wanted to jail Obama and Biden. His rise to political prominence was the Birtherism lies. He is a racist and a wannabe autocrat.

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  4. I think regardless of which Country you are in, people are sick and tired of politicians. Whether it be the childish point scoring against each other or the over promising and under delivering, people are just fed up of being let down by slippy f@ckers.

    Trump bucked that trend. Aside from the fact his competition was Hilary Clinton – with many Americans already having an opinion on the surname alone, Trump was also not a politician.

    For a spell of his presidency, the fact he was a businessman rather than a politician really paid off. He was able to make some real improvements in some areas.

    But as a businessman, he could fire people that didn’t agree with him or buy into his plans. I guess that works when it’s your company & hes tried to make America his company.

    What we saw last night was awful. Over 200 years since Capitol Hill was breached & 4 people lost their lives.

    But America should take heart. It was a small number of people who did not succeed in their mission to stop the process. Congress went ahead and done it anyway.
    Equally it saw numerous Trump supports accept that things had went way too far & they have distanced themselves from him & condemned what happened.

    There is no movement here, no long term madness that I see. It’s one nut job who’s drummed up a handful of nut jobs & once he’s lost his platform it stops.

    I do think that Trumps presidency has shone a huge light on the fact that society isn’t as settled as we think – and that just because things like racism & the confederacy is suppressed, it still exists & can easily resurface with just a few tweets.
    If Biden wants to fix America, he has a lot of work to do.

    Also, don’t think for a second this couldn’t happen in the UK one day either. If it happens in America, that can easily inspire the fools that tear down statues, chain themselves to trains & buses & protest by clashing with police.
    I hope I’m wrong, but look at the global media attention Capitol Hill got last night.

    Trump should be removed now. He should be arrested for inciting riots. But I don’t agree with banning him from social media believe it or not, I think freedom of speech is everyone’s right.

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  5. Eric Sykes:
    Stuart: you asked if Obama should take some responsibility. Do you read your own posts?

    This is all on Trump. He is the one who stirred people up with conspiracy theories and hate talk. He is the one where there was a white supremacist rally and he called them “good people”. He wanted to jail Obama and Biden. His rise to political prominence was the Birtherism lies. He is a racist and a wannabe autocrat.

    Eric, Trump is a symptom not the cause IMO. The fact that you can’t even contemplate or grasp why Trump is so popular really doesn’t reflect too well on your intellect which I have previously thought was rather reasonable.

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  6. When Trump has gone and replaced with an equally grotesque person, people like you Eric will focus on the new person. You’ll just move from Trump to the next idiot completely oblivious to the reasons of why it’s happening.

    It’s a little bit like just treating someone with cancer for pain relief (symptom) and not being particularly bothered about the actual cancer (cause).

    Each to their own I suppose

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  7. Sharpy17:
    I think regardless of which Country you are in, people are sick and tired of politicians.Whether it be the childish point scoring against each other or the over promising and under delivering, people are just fed up of being let down by slippy f@ckers.

    Trump bucked that trend.Aside from the fact his competition was Hilary Clinton – with many Americans already having an opinion on the surname alone, Trump was also not a politician.

    For a spell of his presidency, the fact he was a businessman rather than a politician really paid off.He was able to make some real improvements in some areas.

    But as a businessman, he could fire people that didn’t agree with him or buy into his plans.I guess that works when it’s your company & hes tried to make America his company.

    What we saw last night was awful.Over 200 years since Capitol Hill was breached & 4 people lost their lives.

    But America should take heart.It was a small number of people who did not succeed in their mission to stop the process.Congress went ahead and done it anyway.
    Equally it saw numerous Trump supports accept that things had went way too far & they have distanced themselves from him & condemned what happened.

    There is no movement here, no long term madness that I see.It’s one nut job who’s drummed up a handful of nut jobs & once he’s lost his platform it stops.

    I do think that Trumps presidency has shone a huge light on the fact that society isn’t as settled as we think – and that just because things like racism & the confederacy is suppressed, it still exists & can easily resurface with just a few tweets.
    If Biden wants to fix America, he has a lot of work to do.

    Also, don’t think for a second this couldn’t happen in the UK one day either.If it happens in America, that can easily inspire the fools that tear down statues, chain themselves to trains & buses & protest by clashing with police.
    I hope I’m wrong, but look at the global media attention Capitol Hill got last night.

    Trump should be removed now.He should be arrested for inciting riots.But I don’t agree with banning him from social media believe it or not, I think freedom of speech is everyone’s right.

    100% agree.

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  8. Stuart: I will let other people decide on what I have said about Trump and what you say. My view from the start was that he was dangerous and a unique danger because all he cares about is himself. I think I understand US politics a little bit better than you having lived here for 30 years and also taken an interest in it. At least you are not defending Trump who brings out the worst in people. He is like a lot of populists in that way. Like Hitler. Like Farage.

    Stewie, if we transported you to the 1930s you would be defending Mosley and Joseph Kennedy.

    I am a bit surprised you are now against Trump as you have never said anything before. Not that you should have as this is a football blog, but you sure had a lot to say about Boris.

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  9. Eric Sykes:
    Stuart: I will let other people decide on what I have said about Trump and what you say. My view from the start was that he was dangerous and a unique danger because all he cares about is himself. I think I understand US politics a little bit better than you having lived here for 30 years and also taken an interest in it. At least you are not defending Trump who brings out the worst in people. He is like a lot of populists in that way. Like Hitler. Like Farage.

    Stewie, if we transported you to the 1930s you would be defending Mosley and Joseph Kennedy.

    I am a bit surprised you are now against Trump as you have never said anything before. Not that you should have as this is a football blog, but you sure had a lot to say about Boris.

    In one comment you’ve said I’m not defending him, then I’d defend Mosley and then I’m not defending Trump… Make your mind up.

    I’m balanced in my views – you should try it. I don’t think all Trump has done is good and I don’t think all he did was bad. Is that position so hard to grasp? It seems that you think you are either one side or the other and no middle ground. I find it odd but that’s your right.

    I’m also not arguing that I know more about US politics than you. A strange comment and rather defensive…

    But Trump is still a symptom not a cause. It’s interesting that you’ve not even tried to debate that hypothesis

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  10. While I’m on, I do give credit when it comes to the vaccines. Other than Israel – who seem to be miles ahead of the rest of the world somehow?!, we are 3rd – slightly behind Bahrain.

    It was always going to be a monumental effort to get these rolled out, but I think they are going about it the right way – lockdown, roll out to the most vulnerable & get the mass testing sites up & running.

    They aren’t going to get them out there over night, but they are doing a good job imo.

    The issue will come when the mouth pieces again over promise & under deliver.

    When the likes of Hanc0ck & Gove are saying phase 1 will be rolled out by mid Feb – or that’s the aim. That actually mean vaccinating 2 million people per day – at a time when they were vaccinating around 300-400k.
    Those rolling out the vaccines are doing brilliant. My Aunty works in a GP surgery in Cheadle and Manchester have been battered through this – she and her colleagues are doing great. Also, my elderly grandparents had their first jab just before Christmas & are due the 2nd next week – it’s a big weight lifted off our family & given them hope after a year stuck in the house.

    I think the great job that’s being done will be or could be overlooked by these grand claims – which get challenged by the likes of GMB presenters & instead of being honest, they say things like ‘that’s our aim’ – as if it is ever an achievable target. So when they don’t get to those figures, it feeds the likes of Piers Morgan to jump on that rather than the achievements of the frontline workers.

    If the politicians cut the crap & were just a bit more honest, I things would be vastly different – not just COVID – all things.

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  11. I will tell you that what happened yesterday will probably turn out to be a good thing apart from the woman who lost her life. These Trump crazies have thought themselves immune from prosecution for hate speech and even hate crimes. Some of these people have threatened the families of election officials and now there has been a riot bringing it home to these politicians. You can bet now that there will be phone calls to the FBI to arrest these morons, from both parties. They might not want to go on record, but the calls will be made and they will be rounded up.

    I dont really think there is the equivalent of these “militia”/vigilantes in the UK. There are so many of them and they are armed to the teeth and organized. The good news is that they are stupid and show their faces during a riot and are part of these easily tracked twitter and facebook groups. Some try to hide their activities but most dont. All you have to do is look at the “Militia” who invaded the Michigan State House. They were pretty much saying – Hello FBI look at me, why dont you tap my phone and put a tail on me. Or even put in undercover agents into my social groups. And that’s what the FBI did.

    I will say this again that these idiots playing soldiers are not militia in the way it was framed in the constitution. They are vigilantes.

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  12. Stuart79: In one comment you’ve said I’m not defending him, then I’d defend Mosley and then I’m not defending Trump…Make your mind up.

    I’m balanced in my views – you should try it. I don’t think all Trump has done is good and I don’t think all he did was bad. Is that position so hard to grasp? It seems that you think you are either one side or the other and no middle ground. I find it odd but that’s your right.

    I’m also not arguing that I know more about US politics than you. A strange comment and rather defensive…

    But Trump is still a symptom not a cause. It’s interesting that you’ve not even tried to debate that hypothesis

    Trump is both a symptom and a cause. The slogan for Murdoch’s Fox News over here is “Fair and Balanced” that is the most inappropriate slogan ever as they are the most right wing biased news organisation in the developed world. I am guessing you are balanced in the same way they are Stuart.

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  13. Stu, just back from Dentist, sorry misread your 150m for 150k lol. Why did we order that many? Was that based on needing 2 shots ?
    As for Israel, the reason they are ahead is because they ordered vaccines well before anyone else according to their vaccine minister on GMB today.

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  14. Eric Sykes: Trump is both a symptom and a cause. The slogan for Murdoch’s Fox News over here is “Fair and Balanced” that is the most inappropriate slogan ever as they are the most right wing biased news organisation in the developed world. I am guessing you are balanced in the same way they are Stuart.

    I actually rather like the way US news is set up. They don’t go through the whole charade of pretending to be balanced. CNN is Democrat leaning and Fox is GOP leaning and they’re not ashamed to show that. Here we have to go through the nonsense of pretending Sky News and the BBC are actually neutral which is a wonderful laugh if nothing else.

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  15. kimtoon:
    Stu, just back from Dentist, sorry misread your 150m for 150k lol. Why did we order that many? Was that based on needing 2 shots ?
    As for Israel, the reason they are ahead is because they ordered vaccines well before anyone else according to their vaccine minister on GMB today.

    The government took a punt on some they thought had the best chance of working and getting approved but yes I think they always thought two doses was going to be used.

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  16. As for Trump, he isn’t a symptom imo. What he is, is a deranged little manchild , born into riches and spoiled and never said no to.
    Now he has been told no he can’t handle it and like the man child he is is having the mother of all tantrums .
    He’s screaming and kicking on the floor of the supermarket getting more worked up by the second.

    Eric lives there and has seen the good and bad of all politicians over the years, if he thinks the guys unhinged and undoing good work done by previous POTUS then that’s good enough for me. The fact fellow republicans are now disowning Trump tells us everything.
    Sharpy is right, he needs arresting for inciting violent protest and the saddest thing of last night was 4 poor souls lost their lives.
    An awful day for US and democracy .

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  17. kimtoon:
    As for Trump, he isn’t a symptom imo. What he is, is a deranged little manchild , born into riches and spoiled and never said no to.
    Now he has been told no he can’t handle it and like the man child he is is having the mother of all tantrums .
    He’s screaming and kickingon the floor of the supermarket getting more worked up by the second.

    Eric lives there and has seen the good and bad of all politicians over the years, if he thinks the guys unhinged and undoing good work done by previous POTUS then that’s good enough for me. The fact fellow republicans are now disowning Trump tells us everything.
    Sharpy is right, he needs arresting for inciting violent protest and the saddest thing of last night was 4 poor souls lost their lives.
    An awful day for US and democracy .

    Kim, all that is perfectly reasonable and I don’t disagree. Well apart from the symptom bit. This doesn’t end just by Trump getting arrested or leaving the White House. And this didn’t start the day Trump got the gig. There is still a massive question to be answered and nobody has even attempted answer it. What on earth has happened to tens of millions of people in the US that means they think it’s a good idea to vote for someone like Trump? US politicians need to answer that question and correct it otherwise it will continue on a doom loop. There’ll be another Trump just round the corner of it’s not sorted out.

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  18. Stu, I dunno mate, i know he was big on America first, telling the working classes they would get jobs and better lifestyles and that he would bring a different way of doing politics and other such slogans he loved to use. Maybe they thought he’d make things better for them, he certainly seduced a helluva lot of people over there, hints of other dangerous historical figures spring to mind with the ease he managed to suck folk in.
    It’s not looking so rosy now though and Biden has a huge job on his hand uniting that country that’s for sure.

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  19. Bizarrely Mark Zuckerberg has banned Trump from Facebook and Instagram – yet at the same time have repeatedly refused clamp down on terrorist organisations… Go figure!

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  20. Stu mate, I wish I knew the answer as to why millions of Americans are duped by a narcisistic egomaniac like Trump who wouldnt know the truth if it bit him on the arse. His spreading of conspiracy theories are the most dangerous part for now.

    Fox News were always ultra right wing with the Murdoch agenda. They were not initially for Trump though. In fact, they thought he was a bit of a joke. It was only after he was elected that they went full on Donald love-in. You are wrong about CNN as well. They were always pretty much down the middle but it changed when the Senate led by Mitch McConnell blocked everything Obama tried to do. The real tipping point was Trump though and his fake news narrative. He attacked every news organization over here, even those that had been around for centuries like the New York Times. The NYT was not liberal.

    All you have to do is look at the old school conservatives over here. They have all broken from Trump and a lot have actively campaigned against him. 2 former leaders of the party who I could name but also the intellectual hub of the party who Trump would probably call brainiacs whilst saying he is a “mentally stable genius”.

    What he is left with is his family, the dregs of the party and the political hangers on and opportunists like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz. You wouldnt believe what they said about Trump in the past. Trump said Ted Cruz’s father was party to the JFK assassination and now he supports him.

    But enough of the US Politics lesson.

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  21. Kimtoon: I am glad you trust my judgement on Trump but it has been as clear as the nose on Phil Tompson’s face what he was and what he is from the very beginning. Sometimes I would laugh at what he said because it was so bizarre, but then you realise how dangerous it all is.

    Zuckerberg is regretting letting Trump say anything he wanted no matter how deranged and is now seeing what it has wrought.

    The new head of the Senate has just asked for the removal of Trump asking Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment. Trump only has 13 days left. It is not a political thing because the democrats already have control over all branches of Govt. They are scared of what he might do. We all should be. Especially with Iran. This is building now.

    But guess what Trump is doing today – giving the Medal of Freedom to 3 golfers.

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  22. Stewie: I am watching CNN. The anchor just said only half joking:

    “The President can declare war, he cannot tweet, he cannot post on facebook!”.

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  23. Everybody got lucky yesterday. There was a mob invade the parliament building that was worked into a frenzy by a deranged Orangutan. They didnt seem to be that violent though except against property and were more concerned about being seen. It really could have been so much worse. The police were outnumbered and could have started shooting causing a panic. The mob could have made it into the house and senate and targeted the lawmakers they disagree with and demonize. This was a monumental fck up by security. The congress has its own police force and were warned before hand and there was all sorts of twitter noise.

    They actually got away very easy here. This could have been a bloodbath and elected politicians could have been killed. This is not hyperbole. It could easily have gone this way.

    Trump is crazy. He incited this violence. He called for an insurrection. The only saving grace is that it was not MUCH worse.

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  24. Yesterday alone we vaccinated 200,000 people. That’s a big increase and a welcome one.

    On a slightly more football note. I see Villa have had to close down their training centre. How long a can football continue?

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  25. Stuart79:
    Yesterday alone we vaccinated 200,000 people. That’s a big increase and a welcome one.

    On a slightly more football note. I see Villa have had to close down their training centre. How long a can football continue?

    Yes good news on vaccine front Stu, some GP practices didn’t get their expected deliveries though but likely teething problems, lets hope.

    On Villa, not a shock really, time to stop football i think .

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  26. Trump got around 75 million votes – around 47% of all votes. Biden got around 81 million – 51%.

    I don’t believe for a second Trump is some kind of mind bender of 75 million. I also don’t believe there was that many who were all whites supremacists or domestic terrorists.
    I saw plenty of black folk at the racists rallies & plenty of educated, professional females would make up some of that 75 million voting for the biggot too.
    The ones at the Capitol last night would be a minority of Trump voters – the extremists. But guess what, Biden will have a few too.

    Trump didn’t just get in by tricking people and sending out a few tweets, and it was very close in the end.

    He went in and made big changes, he wasn’t worried about upsetting people & that appealed to a lot – not just nutters. His stance on their military & them being in other Countries appealed to many.

    He did stuff that people liked & if Biden wants to be a success, he’d do will not to ignore that, but really look at it & do it more politically astute. But to move away completely from what Trump did will only create a greater divide imo.

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  27. Blimey, Sharpy stop it, man! I agree again! Completely and utterly. The US has a much bigger problem than just Trump.

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  28. My grandparents 2nd vaccine has been cancelled next week 🤦🏼‍♂️😡.
    As long as it’s done within the 12 weeks it should be fine though 🤞🏼 and in lockdown they aren’t going anywhere 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  29. Kimtoon: have you read any of my rants about football staying open over the last 3 weeks? If you look at it without emotion you would shut it all down tomorrow because the bubble theory is not working or even worse, working in reverse when there is not an early diagnosis. I have written enough on this already so I wont repeat myself.

    Stu and Sharpy: I think there is some sort of mass psychosis with Trump and if you can tell me some of his successes I would like to know. Not tax cuts. 80% went to the top 1%. The only thing I can think of is shaming the rest of the world to pay their way in NATO, but that hasnt happened yet. If you look at the environment, health care, global warming, education. He has set the country back on all of these.

    I am sick of talking Trump for today though, except to say that yesterday may have been a watershed moment in seeing how dangerous he really is. He also doesnt have any real policies for the country, it is all about what is good for him.

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  30. Eric Sykes:
    Kimtoon: have you read any of my rants about football staying open over the last 3 weeks? If you look at it without emotion you would shut it all down tomorrow because the bubble theory is not working or even worse, working in reverse when there is not an early diagnosis. I have written enough on this already so I wont repeat myself.

    Stu and Sharpy: I think there is some sort of mass psychosis with Trump and if you can tell me some of his successes I would like to know. Not tax cuts. 80% went to the top 1%. The only thing I can think of is shaming the rest of the world to pay their way in NATO, but that hasnt happened yet. If you look at the environment, health care, global warming, education. He has set the country back on all of these.

    I am sick of talking Trump for today though, except to say that yesterday may have been a watershed moment in seeing how dangerous he really is. He also doesnt have any real policies for the country, it is all about what is good for him.

    Eric – it’s not for me to say mate. I can’t tell you the thoughts of 75 million people – only that I don’t believe for a second they are all loony racist bigots brainwashed by a few tweets – and to dismiss them as such will never get to the root of what’s truly going on.

    I am not defending Trump or a fan of his in any way. I said he should be kicked out & locked up for incitement. But 75 million people aren’t all numpties.

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  31. Wall Street Journal, the main business paper here – you could not get more capitalist Stewie – and owned by Rupert Murdoch has called for Trump to resign. 2 Cabinet members resigned today. They all know what he is and were cowards to go along with him until he almost broke democracy with his lunacy. Yesterday was actually the seminal event in Trumps presidency. All he will be left with is the loons but there are a lot of them.

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  32. Stuart79: I’m balanced in my views –

    And I laughed so hard I pissed myself. This from a man who says that dictatorship is good form of government.

    And then I read earlier posts and saw you claim that you like to see the bigger picture! Shiiiit, I thought, this guy is seriously off his tree.

    From what I see, whenever a bigger picture gets pointed out to you you dismiss it. From everything I bother to read of yours all I see is a closed mind and blind faith in your right wing masters. There is no balance to anything. There is no desire to seek knowledge. There is only empty parroting of lies and misinformation and attempts to make things as muddy as possible.

    Oh, and by the way, the reason I came here today (I promise you I only come here to read football news but sometimes you see things that are just too stupid … anyway, I know you guys have been on a covid trip ) … Brisbane had its first community transmission for about 4 months yesterday. So we’ve locked down the whole city for 3 days because of 1 case. That’s what you call taking things seriously.

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  33. I dont think you know much about American politics Sharpy. The Evangelicals, and there are many millions of them, vote on 1 issue and one issue alone – abortion. They will never vote for a democrat even if the leader of the Republicans is insane. There are other groups that vote against their own economic best interests because of other single issues. However there has been a sea change with Trump where some hang on his every word and manipulation. This is exacerbated by the conspiracy theorists on the internet, fox news and rightwing nut-job media.

    If you ever listened to any of those at the Trump rallies his supporters cannot string a complete sentence together. In fact, their leader has trouble doing that and has the vocabulary of a 5 year old – great, terrific, it’s a beautiful thing, beautiful thing.

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  34. BrisV: Covid is important to the football discussion because the leagues really should be shut down given the current numbers in football. 40 games cancelled over Christmas and mass outbreaks at at least 4 PL clubs – NUFC, Fulham, City, Villa.

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  35. The Derby 1st team including Wayne Rooney are not even travelling to their cup tie because of Covid. Villa are sending the kids and the Southampton game is off. The bubble theory is proving itself not to work and even worse seems to work in reverse and enhance the spread if cases are not caught in time.

    We have seen this in our own club and seen how this affects young, fit men. I have no doubt that the after effects off Covid are hindering our players and they look even more lethargic than usual – surely Matty Longstaff cannot be that slow! Lascelles and St Max being out for more than a month shows this is not a quarantine for a week and you are done with it situation.

    You cannot wish this away as the PL, EPL and FA seem to think. They only reinstated the testing for Championship teams this week FFS and football teams are doing the opposite to what is required of the rest of the population. I will say it again, that the PL have designed the perfect Covid incubator with 25 players plus trainers put in confined spaces with no PPE and actively being in close contact. Then they take their germs across the country to another bubble of players and push, jostle, spit, hug and roll around on top of each other.

    They thought they had this under control, but the facts have changed and they are acting the same way. Does somebody need to die to have them wake up?

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  36. Eric Sykes: There are other groups that vote against their own economic best interests because of other single issues

    The poms know all about that. They voted for Boris and his band of corrupt cronies after all. They listened to the claptrap of Farage. It should be no surprise to them that Trump got so many votes.

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  37. BrisV: Trump had Ferage on stage over here at one of his super-spreader rallies and referred to him as “the King of England”. Birds of a feather and all that.

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  38. Eric Sykes:
    I dont think you know much about American politics Sharpy. The Evangelicals, and there are many millions of them, vote on 1 issue and one issue alone – abortion. They will never vote for a democrat even if the leader of the Republicans is insane. There are other groups that vote against their own economic best interests because of other single issues. However there has been a sea change with Trump where some hang on his every word and manipulation. This is exacerbated by the conspiracy theorists on the internet, fox news and rightwing nut-job media.

    If you ever listened to any of those at the Trump rallies his supporters cannot string a complete sentence together. In fact, their leader has trouble doing that and has the vocabulary of a 5 year old – great, terrific, it’s a beautiful thing, beautiful thing.

    Eric – you are focusing on a small group of Trump supporters who are shouting the loudest & tarring 75 million people with the same brush.

    I’m not denying what you are saying mate, and certainly not disagreeing with you. What I’m saying is – that’s not the full picture.

    He was voted in with around 65 million votes & he lost with around 75 million votes. If his time in office was so bad, you’d expect him to lose votes wouldn’t you?! – not gain an extra 10 million.

    Now some of those may have voted Trump coz they didn’t want Biden – but that’s pretty scary if that’s the option they made – and does that go back to them being unhappy with the Obama/Biden stint?!.

    Put the nutters aside for a second mate. Trump increased his support in 4 years – Biden should look at why rather than overlook it.

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  39. Brisvegas: The poms know all about that. They voted for Boris and his band of corrupt cronies after all. They listened to the claptrap of Farage. It should be no surprise to them that Trump got so many votes.

    Bris – Boris getting in was largely a Brexit vote. It was only the Tories that said they’d push on with it. Labour said they’d put it back to the vote & Lib Dem said they would overturn it.

    There were very clear camps & then there was Boris v Corbyn aspect.

    This particular election was very different to most others for the UK.

    The landslide win wasn’t for Boris, but for Brexit – but the fact he faced Corbyn only helped widen that divide I think.

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  40. Brisvegas: And I laughed so hard I pissed myself. This from a man who says that dictatorship is good form of government.

    And then I read earlier posts and saw you claim that you like to see the bigger picture!Shiiiit, I thought, this guy is seriously off his tree.

    From what I see, whenever a bigger picture gets pointed out to you you dismiss it. From everything I bother to read of yours all I see is a closed mind and blind faith in your right wing masters. There is no balance to anything. There is no desire to seek knowledge. There is only empty parroting of lies and misinformation and attempts to make things as muddy as possible.

    Oh, and by the way, the reason I came here today (I promise you I only come here to read football news but sometimes you see things that are just too stupid … anyway, I know you guys have been on a covid trip ) … Brisbane had its first community transmission for about 4 months yesterday. So we’ve locked down the whole city for 3 days because of 1 case. That’s what you call taking things seriously.

    And here comes David Icke…😂

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  41. Sharpy17: Eric – you are focusing on a small group of Trump supporters who are shouting the loudest & tarring 75 million people with the same brush.

    I’m not denying what you are saying mate, and certainly not disagreeing with you.What I’m saying is – that’s not the full picture.

    He was voted in with around 65 million votes & he lost with around 75 million votes.If his time in office was so bad, you’d expect him to lose votes wouldn’t you?! – not gain an extra 10 million.

    Now some of those may have voted Trump coz they didn’t want Biden – but that’s pretty scary if that’s the option they made – and does that go back to them being unhappy with the Obama/Biden stint?!.

    Put the nutters aside for a second mate.Trump increased his support in 4 years – Biden should look at why rather than overlook it.

    When the next Trump comes along, and he will, they will just blame him. They will carry on doing it until they realise they have to address the actual cause not the symptom. It will be endemic by then and they won’t blame themselves as they should, they’ll just blame everyone else like normal. It’s exactly the same here btw – just on a different scale and subject. Remain voters in the media and politics are so busy calling the likes of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson racists and xenophobes that they don’t actually know why people actually voted for Brexit and don’t want to know. They’re happy in their echo chamber preaching to the converted.

    It’s quite staggering how the liberals quite often don’t want to investigate why things happen. All they want is someone to blame. And they wonder why it never gets any better…

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  42. A good example is violent crime in the US. It’s disproportionately carried out by black males in relation to the % of black males in the US. Instead of people going round calling police racists for stopping and searching black people through profiling they should be finding out the reason why it’s a high % of black males. Why are black males involved in this crime? What is different in their lives to white Americans? I’d be pretty confident it’s something to do with decades old prejudices where black people get less chances and live in more run down areas without investment.

    Given the statistics I often wonder if police shoot black criminals first and ask questions later because they’re worried about their own safety due to the violent crime stats and not, as described often that it’s because they’re racist.

    You can’t solve problems like this by allowing it to continue. You have to get to the root of the problem and change it right from the start. That way, everyone has a better chance of not being in the end situation which by then it’s too late.

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  43. Sharpy: this is a pretty much a 50/50 Country no matter who the leaders are. Hilary actually won the popular vote. I think the breakdown for the last 20 years has been 52% Dems, 48% Reps. That doesnt change. It is a quirk of the electoral college that the Republicans in general and Trump in particular have power.

    My ex-father in law would have voted for a Monkey with a red tie as long as he was on the Republican ticket. He would have voted for Trump if he was still alive, I am sure of it. Actually, Trump is a monkey with an extra long red tie.

    I could go into the ins and out more but it really is not worth it. I think this insurrection has changed the game and it will play out in the next 2 weeks. I even think Trump might resign as long as he gets an assurance of a pardon from Pence.

    I also think there will be a flurry of pardons in the next couple of days. His family, Guiliani. He has the cover of all this other stuff going on and they usually do this on a Friday night. Plus congress have all gone home and are not set to return until the inauguration.

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  44. Stuart: you have been to Chicago, it is like 2 different cities. Downtown and the Northside are affluent and the South and West are run down and actually ghettos in parts. As I have said, I have lived here for 30 years and I have never been to the dangerous parts of the South Side.

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  45. This pardon power the President has is totally ridiculous. He has the power to preemptively pardon say his sons for crimes that they have not even been charged for yet. So if in 6 months time it turns out they murdered someone, they would get off. He can pardon people for felonies. He can pardon a criminal on death row.

    I think Trump will pardon himself if Pence doesnt go along.

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  46. This is actually LESS depressing than thinking about NUFC/Arsenal and the possible suspension of the season 🙂

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  47. The Guardian are now saying that Covid infected AT LEAST 19 NUFC players and staff. Told you about this reverse bubble (it was common sense, I am not looking for applause) and I expect to hear the same sort of thing from other clubs.

    Bruce says it is “morally wrong” to continue with professional football but it is all about finances. Not saying I really care what Bruce thinks but he has seen it close up (and covered it up).

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  48. Could it be that football should just be postponed until March?

    Or have we, as a country come to accept that we have to live with this until the vaccines are done… It seems this wave and strain is harder to contain but the restrictions aren’t as severe. Hopefully stays that way and the vaccine gets done ASAP.

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    Well, right under the noses of club, why are NUFC doing this ?

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  51. kimtoon:
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    Breaking: NUFC trying to determine if Allan Saint-Maximin broke Covid-19 quarantine rules after he was pictured with fan in supermarket – and Premier League could take disciplinary action if proven

    Interesting that, Kim. Man City, Chelsea and Spurs players go to NYE party’s and get nothing yet for going to the supermarket ASM might get charged….

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