New Joelinton debate arrives as fellow £40m flop finds £22m Premier League escape route

West Ham have just offloaded £40m goal-shy striker Sebastian Haller to Ajax for around HALF the fee they paid to sign him 18 months ago.

Signed on the back of big seasons in the Bundesliga in the summer of 2019, the club-record forward was supposed to be the man to fire a bottom half club up the Premier League table. Sound familiar?

Well, while the Hammers have managed to sell their £40m flop (albeit for FAR less than they paid for him), we are still left with the conundrum of our own – Joelinton.

Is he a striker? Is he a winger? Does he play much better as a No 10? These are all questions that, seven goals and 56 games on, Newcastle fans are struggling to answer with any real conviction.

Asked to replace recently departed player of the season Salomon Rondon on his own, the Brazilian was thrown in the deep end in a negative 5-4-1 system, a move that no doubt created an avalanche of confidence issues that worsened over time he struggled to register a meaningful shot for us, never mind a goal. He was a young man in a new league, a new country and playing under a new manager who didn’t seem to ‘get him’.

However, whatever the reasons behind his terrible form, we can not kid ourselves and deny what we have seen with our own eyes.

The quality of Joelinton – or lack of – has been hard to watch at times. Watching an apparent £40m player struggle to have a decent first touch and hit shots that are weaker than passes has been painful viewing.

Patience among our fanbase is wearing thin. He has shown glimpses this season of turning his fortunes around but even then, anything he does that shows even a slither of talent can at times be overdone by our supporters who are clearly desperate to see just a glimmer of genuine quality.

My question to you is this – If we were offered the same sort of fee that West Ham look set to receive for Haller (£20m), would you cash in on Joelinton?

I’d probably be in the ‘get rid’ camp if there were an offer on the table. The player himself looks as though he could do with a move away and it could be that he will now never come good at St James’ Park.

That said, there are some who are adamant he’d show why we paid huge money to sign him 18 months ago should a bright, forward-thinking manager replace Steve Bruce and get a chance to work with the Brazilian.

I have seen very little of him that justifies his huge price tag. Rafa has been proven correct when he told The Athletic just months after leaving that Joelinton was a £20m player – and even then that seems steep based on what we’ve witnessed!

Should the opportunity arise, I say get rid, reinvest, and make sure the next forward we bring in can actually score goals.

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8 thoughts on “New Joelinton debate arrives as fellow £40m flop finds £22m Premier League escape route

  1. Joelinton ISN’T a flop – he needs a MANAGER

    THAT can leave him out when needed – PLAY him in a position that benefits the team – yes TEAM – something we just haven’t seen in 2 years with Bruce!

    It seems NUFC board are quite happy to spend millions on players and get a two bob ex defender as manager!

    It’s actually unbelievable – who in their right mind would buy a Ferrari and stick a clapped out fiesta engine in…

    ..unless the MD is as incompetent = who ever brought Joelinton to the board and whoever signed off on the 40 million signing need their bank accounts looking into AS backhanders have certainly gone on and defrauded Ashley and the Fans!

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  2. It’s time to drop Joelinton + bring in Carroll and Gayle on Tuesday!

    Not sell him – YET – he needs a wake up call

    It pisses me off that the fans are managing the club – where the pissed Bruce checks the reports and it’s 4/5 changes in every game for the past 2 years!

    And then we wonder why we don’t play as a team (!!???)

    The value of all the players are going through the floor with Bruce + I’d want out asap as clowns like Hendrick and backsliders Fraser are brought in (!!??)

    We Don’t want anymore numpty’s like Jones & Lingards = we have enough midfielder’s

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  3. Joelinton was the the straw that broke Rafa Benitez ‘s back at nufc. Charnley and Ashley went behind Rafa’s back to sign Joelinton instead of an ageing fan favourite Rondon. Ashley made some bold statements when signing Joelinton condiciting rafa opinion I still think Peter Kenyon had a role in brokering the deal too, which doesn’t surprise me and Rafa had enough it has come back to bite Ashley in the ASS big time.

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  4. KK:
    Joelinton ISN’T a flop – he needs a MANAGER

    What absolute 5h!te

    Other players in the team are managed by the same person and they have demonstrated that they are decent players. They can kick a ball, shoot, win a header etc.
    Do you think that players like Gascoinge, Beardsley and Shearer needed a manager to tell them what to do on the pitch?

    Carroll – considered by many to be a has-been sicknote, demonstrated by him being on a “Pay as he Plays” deal – played against The Arse and showed the fans exactly what Big Joe is not doing.

    To continue to blame Bruce because certain players are just not good enough is continuing to try to fix the wrong problem.

    Do you honestly believe that if Rafa was in charge Joelinton would be worth his 40 million?

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  5. Straight swap, Elliot Anderson for Joelinton.give the young guys a go they love nufc, Klopp,Pep,or the chosen one couldn’t coach this guy

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  6. Bruce is not a manager and Joe Linton will never be a footballer as long as my rectum is in place.

    KK:
    It’s time to drop Joelinton + bring in Carroll and Gayle on Tuesday!

    Not sell him – YET – he needs a wake up call

    It pisses me off that the fans are managing the club – where the pissed Bruce checks the reports and it’s 4/5 changes in every game for the past 2 years!

    And then we wonder why we don’t play as a team (!!???)

    The value of all the players are going through the floor with Bruce + I’d want out asap as clowns like Hendrick and backsliders Fraser are brought in (!!??)

    We Don’t want anymore numpty’s like Jones & Lingards = we have enough midfielder’s

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  7. young Anderson did more when he came on than Joelinton has all season he should start against sheff. utd but we all know he wont, bruce will play Jokelinton yet again as he is told too , lose this game and it must be time for the excuse of a head coach to depart because he will savaged from the fans

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