Bruce out.
We’ve seen some rubbish since Steve Bruce took charge, but this is a new low for his Newcastle United, with us allowing a previously winless Sheffield United side to play us off the park in a well deserved victory for the Blades.
Yes, we went down to 10 men via two idiotic tackles from Ryan Fraser in the final three minutes of the first half, but we set up so negatively, sat too deep, were passive throughout and took until the 83rd minute to get our first shot on target.
We looked lost all over the pitch and a side that had zero faith in the man that had essentially sent them out to ‘try not to lose’ against a bottom of the table Sheffield United who’d drawn two and lost 15 of their 17 league games before today. Is it any wonder we looked flat from the off when THIS was our plan?
An embarrassing display and perhaps one of the most negative and unacceptably poor approaches to a game I’ve seen from the team I used to adore watching every week. Not now.
That’s now no wins in our last EIGHT in all competitions and TEN hours of football since we last scored a goal from open play, with us also having a woeful 33% of the ball in this one. The results also means third bottom Fulham (who sit 8 behind us at present) now have TWO games in hand on us.
Before the game, most on social media were absolutely bewildered by Bruce’s negative-looking line up before kick iff – and with very good reason. If five in defence wasn’t bad enough against the league’s bottom side who’d scored 8 in 17 games this season, it was even more alarming to see Dummett at left wing-back, Hendrick, Sean Longstaff and Hayden in midfield and Fraser the only attacking player in the side capable of creating for Callum Wilson.
Why was Matty dropped? Why stick with a back five against a side who have been there for the taking all season? Why set up against a winless team as if we’re travelling to Anfield hoping to steal a point? It was beyond grim, and Bruce got what he deserved in the end.
The game kicked off and it was an unsurprisingly scrappy affair over the opening 10 minutes. Lots of long balls, several sloppy passes and neither side able to take control of the game.
It was difficult to know who was playing where, with Longstaff and Fraser regularly swapping sides and Hendrick playing down the middle. One thing was quite clear, mind….Wilson was isolated as ever.
Then to the first few chances of the game, which both fell to men in red and white. First it was McGoldrick who got in behind an AWOL Fernandez and fired too close to Darlow, then Lundstram skied a shot high and wide after finding space in the box seconds later.
The Blades were getting too much joy down Yedlin’s side and were well on top now. We looked lost, passive, were sat far too deep and struggled to string more than two passes together in their half as a result. It was a truly turgid start that was reflective of Bruce’s unbearably negative set up.
Wilson then had a rare touch in the final third and should’ve done better, with Fernandez’s fizzing cross headed wide by the usually reliable striker. It came at him quickly, however he’ll be annoyed to have missed.
Usual service was resumed moments later. First off, we gave them too much time to cross and saw McGoldrick rise above Dummett at the back post – only to head over. Another Blades attack then followed, but we got away with it via Clark’s brilliant block to deny Burke’s goal-bound strike.
If the opening stages weren’t dull enough, this was becoming quite possibly the most infuriating and shambolic approach I’ve EVER seen from a NUFC side, who should’ve been set up to hurt this winless Sheffield United side – not sit off, sit deep and gift them opening after opening.
One counter attack three Newcastle players (yes, we got THREE in their box!) resulted in Osborn blocking a powerful strike from Hayden, but that was as good as it got…before another wave of Sheffield United chances arrived.
First it was Burke, who was through on goal and likely to score before a flying Fernandez bailed us out with a heroic sliding challenge, then a ball across the box was somehow hooked clear from Dummett before Darlow batted away a Bogle striker after the Sheffield United wing-back was allowed to dance through our defence and into the box.
We’d handed them the confidence they’d never had all season by sitting back and gifting them time, space and far too many chances, however we then shot ourselves in the foot in brainless fashion as Fraser picked up too stupid yellow cards in the space of three minutes to see red.
The half-time whistle went and it was the best moment of the first 45 minutes. We know how bad we can be under Bruce, but this was a new low. Not one shot on target (the SIXTH time we’ve done this in a first half this season…more than anyone else in the league), 38% of the ball, an idiotic red card and incredibly fortunate to be level, with Sheffield United having 10 shots and coming close on countless occasions.
After the break we moved to more of a 4-1-3-1 with Schar screening a back four in front of Fernandez and Clark, however that didn’t stop the hosts creating yet another big chance just a few minutes into the restart as Darlow made himself big to block another big chance for Bogle at the back post.
At this point Sheffield United had 65% of the ball, with them picking up from where they left off just before the break and bringing on a striker for a defender in Rhian Brewster.
We were sitting ducks and had managed just 12% of the ball over the first 10 minutes of the second half. Grim….yet it was about to get even worse.
After just about surviving the constant pressure Sheffield United were putting us under with the man advantage, Fernandez was caught swiping the ball away from Billy Sharp with his hand. The prolonged VAR check was ominous and the referee pointed to the spot after looking at the pitch side monitor.
Sharp stepped up and sent Darlow the wrong way to give the hosts a 1-0 lead to put them just 15 minutes away from their first win of the season. It had been coming and was exactly what both they and we deserved.
Steve Bruce’s response? Bring on Andy Carroll and hope hoof-ball to the big man could save his bacon this time around.
Sharp should’ve seen red himself moments later for a cynical and nasty challenge on Schar, but it was somehow ignored by VAR and the original decision of a yellow remained.
Our first shot on target arrived in the 83rd minute via a Wilson header hit straight at Ramsdale, however that was soon followed by a deflected strike from Brewster that came back off the post and into Darlow’s gloves.
The hosts were getting edgy, yet we constantly gave them the breaks in play they needed via a host of needless fouls – several coming from a frustrated Fabian Schar who had clearly lost his head since being seethed down by Sharp.
Six minutes of added time did feature a tame Jacob Murphy free kick hit straight at Ramsdale and a Bogle header that just went wide of his own goal, but the Blades held on for their first win of the season.
We all know Steve Bruce is not a Premier League manager and stealing a living at St James’ Park, but that was a new low even by his poor standards.
He has to go.
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The “2 false 10s” was the last straw for me. I have no idea what he was talking about.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Neither did Longstaff or Fraser mate
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy 🙂 🙂 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stu, did you read the article ? Their chairman who left in dec just gone was a tory party donor, yes or no ?
And please don’t tell me that had no bearing on getting juicy contracts, we all know the £10,000 is the tip of the iceberg here. For all we knowthere could of been unseen bribes, that’s probably closer to the truth, especially when you read the article content.
kimtoon(Quote)
neither does Steve mate. 😆
kimtoon(Quote)
https://youtu.be/7FHTbBH6wP8
Jim White is a bloody moron as well with his rhetoric. He and his numpty mate Simon Jordan. But at least Trevor Sinclair gets it.
I saw Warren Barton speaking as well, but he’s been at the club & gets it – but he spoke really well and got our point across excellently well I thought.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Kim – PLC have many rules to follow. They can’t get contracts by giving donations to the government. It’s called bribery and as a PLC, well let’s say they wouldn’t be a PLC for very long. I’m intrigued in your view they it’s just the tip of the iceberg. As usual for stories like this – no evidence just supposition and the odd rumour. What you’re accusing them of is illegal. Do you think the police have turned a blind eye? Is the whole establishment in on it?
Stuart79(Quote)
Fulham play away to Spurs and have 48% possession and match Spurs with 15 shots.
Scott Parker had 2 days to prepare his team – so could have been excused if he took the approach to defend away to Spurs – but clearly not.
The return argument of course is that we also got a point at Spurs – but without question Fulham were more enjoyable to watch.
Sharpy17(Quote)
It’s a pity we can’t impeach Steve Bruce.
Brisvegas(Quote)
Stu, the article clearly reports on illegal practices by companies associated with compass that went to court and ended with individuals being found guilty. see below
Another subsidiary of Compass Group is Eurest Support Services, who were embroiled in allegations of corruption after receiving confidential bid information to supply UN peacekeepers in West Africa. Andy Seiwert, a senior executive at Eurest, was accused of meeting with a member of the UN procurement department Alexander Yakolev, who later pled guilty to corruption charges. Another UN diplomat, Vladimir Kuznetsov, was accused of receiving $1m in bribes from groups including Compass, and was later found guilty of other charges relating to the case.
kimtoon(Quote)
Isn’t it
kimtoon(Quote)
So FULHAM get a point, mind that gap steve.
kimtoon(Quote)
All a bit wishy washy I’m afraid, Kim’s looks like the justice authorities think they same. If there was such strong evidence as you say, Kim they would have brought charges or at least arrests.
Stuart79(Quote)
Fulham get a point and more importantly they look a million times better than us. That means they have a better chance of picking up points than we do and I wouldn’t mind betting that by March that 7 point gap will have been overturned.
Stuart79(Quote)
Yes, the Tories have a lot to answer for. You’d think they’d do something about it, wouldn’t you, instead of sitting on their hands and watching the coffers of their pals and paymasters overflow.
And yet I read they still have a 40% approval rating! And you guys wonder how America got into the mess it’s in.
Brisvegas(Quote)
Now it is 20,000 National Guard for the inauguration. Can you imagine that? How many Police are at a NUFC game to control a 52k crowd – 500?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Not sure what planet Stewie lives on if he doesnt think there are corrupt corporations lobbying Govt for contracts. The lobbying industry is about as corrupt as it gets and they are all old Pals together. I know MPs fiddle their expenses but do you really think they can afford eating at fancy Mayfair restaurants on their salary?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I’ll just wait for the arrests, Eric on this issue.
Lobbying btw is a perfectly legal process. What Kim is describing isn’t.
Stuart79(Quote)
OK then Stewie. Why dont you read the book by Jack Abramoff who went to jail over here for corrupt lobbying. I read it. To see how corrupt these people really are.
I dont get why you always defend these people. It is usually for bad stuff like oil drilling in Alaska’s wilderness or chopping down old growth forests so they can make $50k and make the world a worse place.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
And… there wont be arrests Stewie. Because the “arrestors” are in the pockets of corrupt politicians and lobbyists.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I have been to quite a few National Parks in the past couple of years. In the US but also in Britain – The Lake District National Park, The Trossachs National Park. There is a documentary everyone should watch called “The National Parks, Americas Best Idea”. It describes how the parks were set up against the lobbying and self interest of corrupt politicians. It took a few brave men like John Muir and even Teddy Roosevelt to stand up to the corruption.
This idea of National Parks has spread all over the world now and we are much better for it.
I was in Yellowstone last year which is pretty much unspoilt. They have even reintroduced wolves. And I walked up to Grand Prismatic Spring viewpoint and saw bear ****. I have to admit it scared me. Was at The Grand Canyon.
These places would be desecrated or gone if you left it up to the lobbyists.
I was in an old growth forest in Oregon in October. Only 5% of the giant trees that took 2,000 years to grow are left because of logging. They even wanted to chop the rest down for profit. To take away this legacy from their own children.
But, yes Stewie. Lobbying is legal and should be encouraged even though it is almost always self serving and only benefits the lobbyists and is against the general good. You have a sick mind!
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I thought I’d check in to GMB this morning as Piers Moron isn’t on. But it appears he’s rubbed off on Susana Reid. Criticising the government for not having clear rules on lockdown! Even after the couple they interviewed (who got fined for visiting their mum in a care home in Wales) visited the government website and got clear advice. She even had a go at Priti Patel when she’s nothing to do with the rules in Wales ffs! Unbelievable grandstanding.
Stuart79(Quote)
Here’s David Eyke. When are the lizards showing up…
Stuart79(Quote)
I dont get you Stewie Thatcher. Or maybe I do because Thatcher was the way you are. Alwyas blaming people. We cannot all be as smart as you, and yet you blame people for their failings.
I mean…
There’s a pandemic…
People are suffering whatever you may think. They do not all have Range Rovers and good educations. They do not have rich friends and political connections to get them through. They lived pay cheque to pay cheque before this and now are desperate. They did not go to the best schools or get an inheritance.
It is not always the way that you can drag yourself up by your boot strings. Not everybody is smart. Some sink into despair. Some become crooks and thieves.
You live in a pretend Thatcherite utopia Stuart where because you a have done OK you think everybody else is a loser. “I win, you lose”. Very Trumpian as well.
Wake up. FFS.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
BUT, BUT, BUT…
I am going to get onto the environment again here because that is one of the things I hate most about the Orange Man-Baby. He doesnt care. He denies science. He actively opposes facts on climate change.
As I said, I have been to these amazing National Parks recently and who in their right mind would want to deny these experiences to future generations – TRUMP!!!
Obama set up new Park areas. He called them National Monument Parks because the Republicans were against more National Parks. Trump comes in and counteracts these because his donor pals want to drill there.
Do not tell me Stewie Thatcher that this was not lobbyists and corrupt pols that did this!!!
On Bidens’s first agenda is to reinstate these National Monuments. A legacy for the American people and the world as people like Stewie Thatcher try to tear it down.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
And Stewie Thatcher.
We shouldnt probably meet in Chicago next time you are here because saying Lobbyists are not corrupt and PLCs do not try to have undue influence on politicians is about as stupid as it gets.
It is like saying Trump and Boris have good haircuts.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Where did I say lobbyists weren’t corrupt, Eric?
Stuart79(Quote)
I’m not sure what you’re referring to here, Eric? Can you enlighten me?
I certainly wouldn’t have a problem meeting you again, even though we clearly have different views on many things. Being intolerant of others just because of different views is really strange in my opinion. In fact I live a good debate where both sides get to put their point across. It doesn’t make either person bad.
Stuart79(Quote)
It’s not a good look to assume something, Eric. Again, where have I ever said I’d be happy to tear something like this down? I am a big advocate of the environment and if I had my way we’d have more open spaces in this country. Yet again, a unsubstantiated assumption on your part, Eric.
Stuart79(Quote)
Yeah, Stewie Thatcher. I am not talking to you anymore because you make no sense.
Saying Lobbying is legal does not mean they do not lie and corrupt. More false equivalences which you accuse me of calling you out on. BECAUSE THAT IS ALL AND EVERYTHING YOU DO ON HERE!!!
Boris could **** in your Range Rover and you would tell your girlfriend the dog did it.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
??
Talk about playing the man and not the ball…
Stuart79(Quote)
I also don’t have a girlfriend, Eric.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stewie: I dont really have any problem with you. Just doing some passive – aggressive as that seem to be the way the world is now 🙂 I have never had any problems with people with different political opinions.
Now snow! I hate snow. Eskimos suck.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Newcastle are a hollow shell and it hurts
By Alan Shearer
This hurts. It hurts the eyes, it hurts the heart and it hurts the soul.
Newcastle United are a difficult club; to watch, to be around and to manage and so this is a difficult column to write, because it blurs a few lines in my personal and professional existence. They’re the team I support and the team I played for and now my job is to analyse, to say it as I see it. What I see – and what I feel – is an emptiness, a club that simply exists.
What I saw against Sheffield United the other night was barely even that. Did anybody check for a pulse? Facing a team that are rock bottom of the Premier League, that had failed to win all season, Newcastle were bloody awful. There’s no getting away from it — that first half was as bad as it gets, compounded when Ryan Fraser was sent off for two pathetic yellow cards, two nonsense tackles. The players have to take some responsibility, but there are no excuses.
Newcastle remain 15th in the table, eight points off the bottom three. They are in a run of eight games without a victory, a sequence which has seen them get thrashed 5-2 by Leeds United, draw with Fulham, lose to Sheffield United and go out of both domestic cup competitions, including a dismal defeat by Brentford. They have also played Manchester City, Liverpool and Leicester City, but it leaves Steve Bruce under massive pressure from an angry and anguished fanbase.
None of that helps my own discomfort because the head coach — yes, head coach, not manager — is a friend of mine and the same goes for Steve Harper, the first-team coach. I know the human beings behind the titles and so I know how much they care, how desperate they are to do well, how much they and their families feel it, too. To repeat: Newcastle are a difficult club, largely because of their difficult owner, and if this difficult column has a point, it is to explain that difficulty and put it into context. Like I said, it hurts.
For those of you who are not Newcastle fans, perhaps you see a club that is relatively stable, financially secure, unlikely to go down, middle of the road. Perhaps you hear all this noise around it, these howls of disapproval at Mike Ashley, at the way the team are playing. Perhaps you read about supporters being permanently in revolt, harking back to other eras, demanding the impossible. And perhaps you ask yourself: what the hell is this?
The reality is different. There is no expectation of success at Newcastle. We haven’t won anything of note since 1969 and we haven’t won a domestic trophy since the FA Cup in 1955. Jesus Christ — 1955! The “deluded Geordie expectation” is one of those great footballing myths. But this is no longer the same club that I captained, where I played alongside Rob Lee, Les Ferdinand, David Ginola, that was managed by Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson. This is no longer a club of ambition.
So why the discord, why that noise? And the answer to that is hope. Newcastle supporters want hope. They want a bit of their club back, rather than this hollow, shallow, lifeless, soulless shell. That hope has gone and it has been ground out of them by an ownership that has different thoughts and ideas and different ambitions, if you can call it that. You need something to believe in, to buy into, a grand plan, a dream, a concept. You want it to represent you.
Newcastle do not do that and it’s probably lost them a generation of fans, people who have thought over the last decade and more, ‘I’ve had enough of this. I don’t enjoy it any more’. All of us know men and women like that. At a club which is known for its loud and passionate support, 10,000 part season tickets were given away last season. I tell myself not to — there is no worth in looking back — but it’s hard not to contrast it with the (relatively) recent past, when a horde clamoured to get in.
There have been too many bad decisions to go into, but it explains why there was so much excitement about a takeover last year, about the prospect of something, anything, different. Hope will not return — not in any meaningful way — until there’s a change at the top of the club, whose stadium and training ground is beginning to look tatty and old. And because that change did not happen, this season has felt like the worst of hangovers, when everybody is tired and irritable.
The football, by and large, has followed suit. Newcastle are not a good watch, to put it mildly. They haven’t been for a long while. And so they haven’t changed the mood or the story. Given everything he had to deal with, with the circumstances he walked into — a feeling of depression, a lack of goals, the lack of a striker — Steve deserved credit last season, particularly in terms of where they finished, but it is not a team which provides uplift.
There should be some mitigation this time, as well — COVID-19, the number of games, the lack of pre-season — and what really irks me is how little protection Steve has received from the people above him. Where is Lee Charnley (the managing director)? What happened to that statement of his where he admitted the error of not communicating with fans? Where is his backing for the manager? Where is the strategy? Come on, Lee, where are you? Where is anyone, aside from Steve?
I suppose I should clarify this isn’t something I’ve spoken to Steve about and I wouldn’t want to. When we have conversations now it’s not about formations or results, it’s ‘how’s things, what are you up to?’ But I can’t believe he’s having to deal with questions about furloughing staff, giving tickets away, about coronavirus, about a takeover. These shouldn’t be issues for the manager. It’s a tough and lonely enough job as it is. The point is, he’s on his own.
And this was why I said at the time that I wish Steve hadn’t replaced Rafa Benitez, that I had grave reservations about what might happen down the road. The road leads here. It would have been the same if somebody else had come in and it will be the same for the next manager and the one after that if nothing else changes, because it’s the way Newcastle are built under Ashley. The manager takes it all on his shoulders; a concentration of anger, stretching back years.
The fact that Rafa left for the reasons he did, tells you what a difficult club it is, but Steve wanted to manage Newcastle and I respected that and left him to it. I can certainly understand it. I had two months in the role in 2009 and my experience of the dysfunction was limited to hearing about how happy they were with me, to making plans for the future, to never hearing back from them again. No phone call, no postcard, no flowers. I can laugh about it now. I wasn’t laughing then.
I never got to experience their transfer policy or their interesting approach to recruitment; when Steve walked in, Newcastle were already committed to signing Joelinton at a cost of £40 million. That tells you something, too. And it tells you something else that Joelinton and Miguel Almiron — more than £60 million of forwards — stayed on the substitutes’ bench at Bramall Lane, when the team were desperate for a goal and for a win that did not come.
Once you’re in a rut it’s difficult to shake yourself loose, so there has to be concern about the run we’re on, although I still think we’ll have enough to avoid relegation. The fact I’m even writing that is part of the issue. When Steve said not too long ago that his remit was to keep the team up, he didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know, but hearing it is painful, demoralising, horrible. For a club like Newcastle, just to survive …
In most regards, I’m the same as any other fan, barring that I’ve got a couple of pals on the coaching staff. I’m longing for us to do well, to bring in reinforcements, for some legs in midfield, for some attacking football, that bit of creativity. I’m well aware that everything I say about the club is magnified because of my history there, but Steve has chosen one life and I’ve chosen another and I also have to be critical and analytical and true to myself.
Steve did say he was going to take the cups seriously and he has put stronger teams out, but this idea that getting to a couple of quarter-finals should be ranked as an achievement? Goodness me, that’s how it’s bad it’s become. And what didn’t help his cause is that performance against Championship Brentford when Newcastle went out so meekly, with no fight at all. The one or two positive signs — like getting further up the pitch — are blown away.
When it’s **** I’ll say it’s **** — I wouldn’t be doing my job otherwise — and Sheffield United was a dreadful night. I don’t think Newcastle have a brilliant squad, but for Chris Wilder’s team to have as much possession as they did, to look as good as they did, is not acceptable. It invites scrutiny and invites pressure and it fuels the anger. You have to accept the criticism coming your way and Steve has been in the game long enough to understand that.
This is not the Newcastle United we all want and this is not the Newcastle United we should accept and that’s why there’s so much disappointment and disquiet and hurt. That’s why the manager always becomes the focal point. It’s a club which has no real relationship with its supporters. It’s a club that’s creaking, that’s existing and very little else. It needs hope again. It needs love.
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – I read that and he spends most of the article slagging Jabba off which is exactly right but didn’t criticise Bruce so much. Almost like the turgid football we play is down to Jabba. It is not. He’s a pain and is the reason why the club is so bad as a rule but he doesn’t impact the football we play.
Stuart79(Quote)
Holly on This Morning with another whopper of a **** up. Complaining about the rules and guidelines saying they’re not very clear whilst reading out the guidelines on the government website and then says “Oh, well actually they seem perfectly clear actually”! ???
It’s almost like the media believe everything they’re told by the public. Everyone knows the rules. Many will push the boundaries, get caught and then claim they were unsure of the rules. In other cases the police don’t know the rules. Maybe they should read the government website ffs! As Holly says – they’re very clear!
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – you need to give homes under the hammer a go mate – they never mention COVID on there mate ??
Sharpy17(Quote)
I heard a transfer rumour this morning – Spurs are about to cancel Danny Rose contract by mutual consent, and Newcastle are waiting in the wings ??♂️??♂️??♂️
Sharpy17(Quote)
Back to the siege on the American Capitol. Do you remember when you were at school they had those glass windows with the embedded wire threads in them so people couldnt break in? Why not something like that at the US Capitol building? You dont have to have iron bars, but something as simple as that.
These people are morons. The people protecting elected officials. They had already seen 9/11 and the stuff in London and mowing down people in Barcelona.
Republican congressmen over here are now saying it is an infringement on their civil rights that they have to go through a metal detector to get into congress. They didnt have it until theis week – can you believe that! Have they not been through an airport in the past 20 years. Gone to any State Govt Building to get a driver’s license! They are the biggest hypocrites I have ever encountered in my life except for Stewie Thatcher.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I expect that to be a joke, Eric, as one thing I am not is a hypocrite. That’s the one thing that gets right on my tits about this world.
Stuart79(Quote)
Sharpy – I’m thinking of giving The Great British Sewing Bee a go. Between Covid and Newcastle United I can’t believe I’ve managed to stick to Dry January.
Stuart79(Quote)
Take a look at the pictures. There are thousands of Govt troops in uniforms, with machine guns, out on the streets of DC at 7am before the inauguration in 6 days time. I am watching it live on the news. It is like Northern Ireland in 1974 times 10. Only Stewie could think this is not a problem. Or Nigel Farage!!!
Eric Sykes(Quote)
On the contrary, Eric my dear. It is likely to get worse unfortunately while US politicians martyr Trump. I guess it’s 100% about stopping him running in 2024. Shouldn’t it be the US citizens who decide who the president is not the politicians?
Stuart79(Quote)
Stewie: Finally some people are talking about the BIG LIE.
They are using this as a tag. Trump has been a BIG LIE from the beginning. From birtherism with Obama. From trying to get the Central Park 5 executed (look it up).
This man is a menace to the world and I am just glad that you finally realise it.
The BIG LIE is that this election was stolen and I am glad they are now using the Goebbels propaganda rhetoric against the Orange Man-Baby.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stuart: as I have said before, I dont really have a problem with you. We can disagree.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Trump has tried to question the integrity of the vote. Disgracefully IMO. The democrats also tried to question the integrity of the 2016 election claiming it was Russian collusion and even the first impeachment was based around these allegations. Here in the UK, the liberal remainers tried to cast doubt on the integrity of the Brexit vote saying it was Russian interference that won it for Brexit voters. A journalist here wrote story after story accusing the likes of Aaron Banks of taking Russian money. Subsequently being sued and now bankrupt for the false allegations.
Interesting how the media report the same accusations but by different sides of the political divide…
Couple of examples of hypocrisy.
Personally I think democracy only works with losers consent and that, sadly, seems to be getting harder and harder to come by.
Stuart79(Quote)
OK. I will explain how really stupid this is and why the Police are ignoring this because it is white middle aged men protesting.
This weekend, at the Michigan State Capitol there is a protest called “armed and peaceful”. They are bringing assault rifles to the Capitol Building of Michigan where they did the same thing 8 months ago and stormed the building and where the Police said they wouldnt intervene because these vigilantes were better armed. Police di nothing !!!
Then the vigilantes set up a plot to try to kidnap and kill the Governor of Michigan.
Could you imagine this in the UK or even Australia? normally the police are the ones beating heads in. Even in a Stewie Thatcher Police State. Now Trumpians are committing crimes in his name against the Police? The world has turned upside down.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stuart: you have it all wrong mate. The impeachment of the Orange Man-Baby was about a very narrow issue of a phone call with him and Ukraine. But believe what you like.
Bring up very narrow examples that MAY help your narrative when the big picture says it is not true.
There is a BIG LIE over here and that is that the election was stolen. I am just so happy that finally people are seeing it as the BIG LIE of Trumpians.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric, I’d like to think only a minority of people in the US actually believe the election was stolen. If it’s a majority of Trump voters then that’s a big problem as that will be more than 40m people. Trump isn’t an hypnotist.
I’m not even sure Trump himself believes it. He might just tell himself that to make himself feel better.
Stuart79(Quote)
I’m starting to warm to Biden. He talks in a consolatory tone. He could do himself and the country a massive favour by pardoning Trump but I’m not sure if he’s so consolatory mood. It would definitely show US citizens that it was time to move on.
Stuart79(Quote)
That was the whole point of what Trump was doing. He was trying to overturn an election in the courts where he was defeated 60 times by mostly republican elected judges. He has spread the BIG LIE that the election was stolen and fomented an insurrection by red hatted idiots. He is Goebbels 70 years later. An Orange Faced Hitler.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
So what you saying, Eric, you wouldn’t vote for him in 2024?
Stuart79(Quote)
Stewie mate, watch some news.
You will see armed soldiers sleeping in the halls of the US Capitol Building. In front of a statue of Lincoln. Probably the one US person we can all agree on that was true hero. On the level of Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.
They are sleeping there with guns at their sides because of Donald Trump and his stirring up hatred of white supremacist vigilantes.
I will say it again. These people are not Patriots or even Militia. They are insurrectionists.
The proof is in the pudding now that there are 20,000 troops in the US Capitol to stop them. Imagine that at 10 Downing Street, or Buckingham Palace or Big Ben? This is fcn crazy. 20,000 troops all because of an Orangutan.
WATCH THE NEWS. You will see what I mean.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I can see, Eric. People I speak to just say “Them Yanks are mad aren’t they…”? It’s worse there due to the rather idiotic gun laws.
Stuart79(Quote)
Gun Culture is so stupid over here. My ex-boss was so proud he was a hunter and I live near Wisconsin so have heard the hunting stories many times. It is not hunting BTW, it is slaughter.
I was in a meeting with a WI lawyer and he was telling this great story of when he shot a bear. It was wonderful. He went to the State House and put his name in to shoot a bear. 10 years later he got the call that he had one of 5 licenses that year to shoot the bear. So he set some meat out and climbed into a tree to sit in a hunting blind for 2 days. A bear came along and he shot it from about 30 feet. Big Man. Hunter!
I cant be bothered to tell anymore stories except they usually do not kill with the first shot and have to follow these wounded animals for hours as they die. And that the ducks they kill will take a filling out when they are cooked and are dry anyway because they are flying south and have no fat on them..
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Take a filling out… from the buckshot they use to kill the ducks.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I must say, Eric, not much annoys me more than watching ignorant pigs posing with the trophy kill. Anybody who is cruel to animals should be jailed. The natural progression is to people. I’d file it under prevention is better than a cure.
Stuart79(Quote)
I was in Wisconsin about 5 years ago in a bar and they came around selling raffle tickets. A dollar a go, so I thought OK. I won. Do you you know what I got? A GUN. Not like a kid’s toy. A real gun with bullets. I said I didnt really want it and could they just give me a beer instead.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Glad to hear that Stuart. We take the p!ss out of each other on here but I have nothing against you. I know many people with different religious and political views but I never get really upset. Even with idiots like you or Mackems 🙂 Now Bruce! I am on a tight rope and about to fall off into the abyss. I have Ugly John and Arrogant Alan flashbacks.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I do think it’s a bit overkill out in America like.
A few clampits stormed Capitol Hill, hoyed a few papers around, put their feet on the desk & took a few selfies.
No doubt security needs to be tightened – but I saw videos of security taking photos with the rabble, so it wasn’t the tightest last time round really. I’m not sure that requires 20,000 armed guards like.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I have no problem with Stewie Thatcher BTW. He has different views to me but as long we dont act like total d!cks to each other I am OK. Maybe I will act d!ckishly to him at some point but I apologize in advance and take it back in advance 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Different Sharpy. They have machine guns. They tried to kidnap the Governor of Michigan and have a Kangaroo Court to kill her. Michigan is 50 miles from where I live. This is serious.
They pretend that they are a Militia protected by the 2nd amendment of the US Consitution. THey are not. They are vigilantes and boy soldiers.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Sharpy: if you went to your local pub and the men next to you had hand guns and bullet proof vests would you feel safe. Or how about camo and a machine gun on their hip. I have been in bars like that. In Wisconsin where you are allowed to carry guns in the open. It is called an “open carry” law.
If you had that in Newcastle there would probably be 20 deaths every weekend at the quayside.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
A friend of mine who lives in Syracuse is a fantastic guy. Democrat voter and him and his wife and two adult kids are really nice people but he is absolutely adamant he should have the right to own a gun. It really is an eye opener when you think someone is liberal but then have gun views that blow a Brits mind…
Stuart79(Quote)
I think the criticism of players not social distancing is just ridiculous. They aren’t meant to celebrate when they score a goal – but they are happy for them to keep playing and defend a corner or freekick?! – how is that more safe?!.
I think you can argue that celebrating with teammates who you have trained with and spent the week with & been tested with, is far less risky that tussling with opposing players at a corner.
When you look at the way the virus has spread, I think all in all the PL and teams have done a great job up to now – with the exception of a couple of individual idiots breaking the rules.
They have to accept that football is an emotion game for the players & despite the lack of fans, there is still a lot at stake. They either want them playing or they want them to stay safe – in which case have a break to the season – or as Sean Dyche suggested, vaccinate the players and use the money to test others.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Eric – it wouldn’t happen, because we don’t have crazy gun laws over here ??♂️.
The Yanks have always been super defensive on their gun laws. Even when there are mass shootings out there, they blame mental health over the access to machine guns.
They get behind their gun law in the same way English get behind the NHS – it’s one of the only thing that unites Americans – always has, probably always will.
If you moved to a Country with a volcano, you can’t be surprised if it eventually erupts.
It’s partially down to mental health, but it’s more to do with machine guns being readily available to any Tom, **** or Harry who wants one.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Well, it does not seem to be an issue of hugging when you score at NUFC. How long has it been now in open play 800 minutes?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Yeah, I had a look. Carroll got one against Leicester and before that it was a Wilson penalty on December 19. So… not much chance of them getting Covid from celebrating.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I know Shearer likes Bruce but he says there should be some mitigation for our form – number of games, covid, and the lack of a pre-season. Havent all of the other teams dealt with the same things. If Shearer is saying we had it worse with Covid then why didnt we ask for games to be called off. City had games called off with fewer cases.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Correct mate, and our midfield have socially distanced themselves from our forwards long before the COVID hit – so we are defo doing out bit ??
Sharpy17(Quote)
Watching Wraith’s Youtube and Supermac is going to give himself a heart attack when he is talking about Bruce.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Arsenal were shyte today and Palace pushed them at the end.
Time for another 9-0-1 set up Brucie Boy.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Well now my daughter has to self isolate because the nurse who lives downstairs tested positive for covid today.
Then the drain survey on the bungalow i’m buying came through and it’s a fucking horror show, and they couldn’t complete it fully because the rear foul manhole couldn’t be accessed because the neighbor has erected a fence above it ! Oh and there is the mother of all blockages at the end of the run too.
Then Lew threw up 🙄 🙄
c rap day
kimtoon(Quote)
So PALACE get a point now
brilliant 🙄 👿 👿
kimtoon(Quote)
So now the PL and even Govt want players to stop hugging after scoring. Durrrrr… Lampard says players social distance in training. Not sure if that is true but at least they shouldnt be close for lunch or physical therapy. It would probably be good for NUFC if there was a season pause as we could conduct a Manager search. If it happens, I would sack Bruce on that day but then again I would sack Bruce today if it was up to me.
The season SHOULD be paused but they are trying everything to avoid that. The evidence is clearly there but the PL need the money and it doesnt look like there is a critical mass of MPs yet.
Eric Sykes(Quote)