Now THAT was more like it!
After eleven games without a win, an outstanding display full of energy, pressing, fight and quality in the final third saw us pull off a shock 0-2 win at Goodison Park.
The goals came via that man Callum Wilson, who not only lead the line superbly but fired past Jordan Pickford twice, with one a perfectly weighted glancing header and the other an emphatic finish at the end of a 90th minute counter.
He was the stand out player and MOTM, but we were brilliant all over the pitch, with Almiron everywhere, Hayden a colossus in midfield, Fraser a menace, Manquillo rock solid, Schar monstrous at the back and Lewis much improved, too.
Hats off to Bruce for FINALLY going with four at the back and to Graeme Jones too – the new assistant who appears to have had an immediate impact on the players!
The win sends us NINE clear of the drop zone and up to 22 points, giving us a huge lift ahead of next week’s clash with Crystal Palace.
Bruce made only one change, bringing Manquillo in for Murphy, however the formation had changed, with us moving back to a four-man defence as Hayden pushed up into a midfield role in front of Lascelles and Schar:
It was a mixed first five minutes. In one sense we were given them too much room down their left and saw Darlow make a nervy start – flapping at a few crosses and getting nowhere near one that Mina headed over.
That said, we were looking a bit hungrier to both win the ball back and get it forward when we did, with the 4-2-3-1 formation and improved pressing giving us better spells of possession in the Everton half.
Another free header came and went for Mina, however it was us who came closest 25 minutes in, with some sharp link up play between Almiron, Hendrick and Wilson ending in a deflected Shelvey shot that went just inches wide of Pickford’s far post.
One concern was the fact Lascelles and Shelvey had both picked up early yellow cards, leaving both walking a tightrope with well over an hour left to play.
Callum Wilson looked razor sharp from the off and almost found his 50th Premier League goal, heading a brilliant Fraser corner off the bar. It looked to be going in but highlights showed Pickford got an all important touch to tip it onto the woodwork.
Pressing higher up the pitch was a risk/reward approach, but it saw us look far more present in the game and anything but the passive side that folded from the off in our last away game at Aston Villa.
More great link up play followed. Wilson was central to it and was hacked down on the edge of the box after a sweeping counter involving Shelvey, Fraser and Lewis ended with our £20m striker being tripped by Keane after a smart turn fooled him. The free-kick was wasted as Shelvey, who floated it over as he always tends to, however we were easily the better side and playing as well as we have under Steve Bruce. Who would’ve thought a 4-2-3-1 formation with Almiron in his best position would = better football!
That said, Everton were making a habit of finding space in the box the odd time they broke forward, allowing Rodriguez a shot on goal which Darlow palmed clear and a Richarlison effort that flew well wide.
The half-time whistle arrived and it’s fair to say that was probably one of the best first halves we’ve seen under Steve Bruce. No goal to show for it, but for once there were genuine reasons to be hopeful and happy with our performance.
The second half kicked off and it was noticeable we were sitting five yards deeper and not pressing with quite the same intensity, with Lascelles forced off with a knock on the 55th minute and replaced by Ciaran Clark.
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A blow to what had been a steady defensive showing up until now, however the first big opening of the second half came our way soon after…and what a chance it was.
Wilson held it up, Almiron broke into the Everton half and got it wide to Fraser, who delivered a brilliant ball across the box to his ex-Bournemouth partner. He’d been razor sharp until now, but Wilson dragged his shot wide, missing a HUGE chance to finish off what was a cutting counter attack.
A bad miss, but another promising sign nonetheless – and that trend continued as we kept up the pressure and grew into the second half after Everton’s initial spell of possession.
The front three were linking well and causing Everton havoc, and they were then joined by Allan Saint-Maximin with just under 25 minutes remaining.
There was a newfound confidence and belief about us. Our pressing and competitiveness in all areas of the field was one clear positive, but our passing, decision making and much improved composure on the ball was there for all to see – we just needed a goal to show for it!
Thankfully, that arrived on the 73rd minute mark and it was that man Callum Wilson!
After working hard to force another corner, Shelvey’s whipped cross was met by a brilliant glancing header from Callum Wilson which flew into the far corner past a sprawling Jordan Pickford. A superb finish and a 1-0 lead we thoroughly deserved!
The key now was for us to keep pressing and maintain that level of energy, composure and threat on the break that kept Everton quiet up until now.
As you’d expect, Everton upped their urgency and pushed up the field, but we restricted them to hopeful crosses in the box and shots from range up until the 86th minute mark – where Wilson was presented with a chance to kill the game.
After Almiron slipped a lovely reverse pass in behind, Wilson rounded Pickford and saw his shot from a tight angle come back off the post! Brilliant combination play from arguably our two best players today, but would it be a moment we live to regret?
The answer was no, with us not only surviving five minutes of added time but scoring another through Wilson to pull off a MASSIVE 2-0 win over Everton.
Some clever play between ASM and Lewis and a good assist from the latter to give Wilson the chance to bury the game and bag that second goal his display thoroughly deserved!
Nine clear of the bottom three and a performance FULL of everything we’ve been asking for in recent months.
The Graeme Jones effect or the result of Bruce finally picking a system that suits our players? Who knows, but how nice it was to actually enjoy watching us play with energy, ideas, passion and confidence!
Let’s hope we can learn from this, grow in confidence and kick on now when Crystal Palace come to town on Tuesday!
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? bl00dy hell Olly, have you had that written out since half time???
Sharpy17(Quote)
Loads better!!.
Why do some pundits think that type of performance is too much to ask??.
Claiming we don’t have the player – b0ll0cks!!.
They all looked like they enjoyed that more. Probably the highest possession we’ve had this season & look at what our boys can do with the ball.
Don’t expect to win week in week out, but definitely expect that level of performance now.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Our win takes the pressure off a bit but I will still watch Fulham-West Brom.
Fulham have the much better team, but I want a draw. If Fulham have to win I want 5-0 just to see Big Fat Sam’s face.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Miggy looks like he is back.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Still want another centre mid.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
West Brom are dogsh!t. I know I shouldnt say this, but – C’mon Fulham.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I see we are sticking with 11 games without a win when 9 games without a league win is amore relevant stat.
Does sound as bad, though, does it!
BykerBill(Quote)
Sorry to be a downer but Ryder is an idiot. He gave Wilson a 10 out of 10. That is a perfect score when he missed 2 chances he would usually convert.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
We lost to Brentford’s 2nd team so that is relevant to how **** we have been.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
What’s happened to Calvert-Lewin? England might need him as Kane’s ankles seem as fragile as ever.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Might give Wilson a shot for England? Or bring Vardy out of retirement?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Said before the game that Everton are overrated.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
There seems to be a thing among pundits where they WANT Everton to be good. They are like their second team. It could be all the ex-Man U, but then there are as many ex-Liverpool. Why do they call themselves “The People’s Club” when they are owned by an Iranian billionaire?
Everton used to be the big team in Liverpool before Shankley. Is it an underdog thing? Memories of Dixie Dean?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
wow where has that performance come, from totally unexpected but what a performance could and probably should have been 5 -0 prickford save and wilson missing 2 when he should have scored given the performance from him, we can certainly enjoy the weekend, now lets hope they keep it up in next 2 home games
kev the mag(Quote)
Fulham 2 v West Brom 2 now
kimtoon(Quote)
Byker – so you’re satisfied with no win in 9 games then?.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Joelinton and Sean Longstaff out were probably a big factor.
Bruce was moaning about missing his BIG players. Who exactly? St Max played earlier in the season and we still played shyte most games. Fraser didnt play because Bruce didnt pick him. The season started in August and it took until January for Bruce to play him. Surely 4 months is time enough to get fit.
Wilson has played almost every game and went totally off the boil because of Bruce’s tactics. In my humble opinion it has bee tactics rather than missing players that led to this bad run. Plus, we played some good teams but there is no excuse for those Sheffield or Brentford performances.
Great win but the excuses were false. Except Covid. I will give him that, but Villa had 9 out with the virus.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Who was out and what impact did they have:
Lascelles: no impact. We have 3 better centre halfs.
Dummett: he wouldnt have played him anyway. We spent 15 million on a left back and he was getting his shot no matter what.
Manquillo: he was behind Krapth in Bruce’s pecking order.
Shelvey: hot and cold. Mostly cold.
Sean Longstaff: he was picked and showed nothing.
Joelinton: always picked and team is much better now he is out.
Gayle: out for 4 months but Bruce doesnt pick him.
Ritchie: trying to get rid.
St Max: yes, was out with Covid and has been a miss. But before that he was given a free role that didnt work. I Dont blame Bruce for trying it buthe was ineffective for most of the games he played.
Wilson: played just about every game. Seems his problem was not lack of form but lack of service.
Fraser: how can it take someone 4 months to get match fit. This was Bruce’s choice.
Bruce is just so full of **** even when he could just stay quiet and be happy about the win and performance. He is trying to relitigate the past when he doesnt have a leg to stand on.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I am not saying that we would not have been better with certain players fit, I am saying Bruce wouldnt have played them anyway so it is an excuse. We all know it, just like we know this squad is not a relegation squad.
We need a central mid and there is no chance we go down, even with Bruce.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I stand by all my criticism of Bruce this season. I’ve never made it personal or called him names – I don’t think it’s ever needed to get to that. It’s only ever been about our set up & approach to playing football (or not as the case has been).
I questioned the quality of our squad through the week as well & maintained that I think we only have 6/7 players I’d class as being above average – but with organisations & the right style of play, we are still a good team.
Credit to Bruce today. Whatever he did worked & the players responded to the changes. For the first time in a long while they actually looked like they enjoyed being out there today. They played with everything you’d want of them & they worked hard for each other.
But that’s only maybe the 2nd or 3rd time I can say I enjoyed watching us this season – so Bruce & the players have to take today & the 2nd half of Leeds & keep that.
Palace is a winnable game imo, despite them beating Wolves today.
Beat Palace and we’ve them got 3 difficult fixtures against Saints, Man Utd & Chelsea – but beyond those we have a mini run of very winnable games. But they have to motivate the players, get that confidence going & silence some of the negativity with good performances at the very least.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy: have you really never called Bruce any names? I believe you, I just admire your restraint. I dont think I have gone overboard. I have called him a liar, a fat fck and a cabbage (he is all of these). Could have said a lot worse 🙂
I reckon we will play the same team apart from Lascelles against Palace. My guess is that we save St Max again and there is a built in reason (not an excuse for once) with him being out for so long with Covid.
Lewis looks a lot better with an attacking player ahead of him whether it is Fraser or St Max. Shows you how much Joelinton held him back. Still not sure about his defending but I think he was bought as more of a Trent Alexander Arnold type.
Surprised Shelvey got an assist from a corner but he should still be relieved of all set piece duties. Fraser looks a lot better at them and even the likes of Ward Prowse are not perfect.
Also, been on The Mag and saw a few pre-match comments from Everton fans. What a bunch of entitled tw@ts. What do they have to be entitled about? I have watched a few of their games this season and they have been bang average and are flattered by the number of points they have. The Mag readers call them Scouse Mackems which I had never heard before.
I think Pickford was OK but I would hate to play in front of him. He is a bundle of nervous energy and that is not what you want from a keeper. Would be like having Craig Bellamy in goal.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – I may have called him an idiot ?. But that didn’t come until he started swearing in his press conferences & banning the written press – so only recently & I think he is an idiot for doing those things.
If he played like he did today all season, then he wouldn’t have got half the stick he’s got up to now.
I know he’ll say he hasn’t had the players available all season to do that – but other than Fraser, all the players in today have been in most of the season. But that aside, I think those that have been in would be more than capable of playing that way today as well – the quality may have been lacking a little bit, but they could still play the high press.
He’s used so many excuses for not playing this way, and even claimed that it’s his preferred way of playing, but never actually gave it a go until now.
It’s like he’s been told – you have 3 games & if nothing changes, you’re sacked & he’s thought – sod it I’ll do want the fans want and prove they are wrong. Then all of a sudden – oh hang on, it is better!! whey who’d have knew ?
Sharpy17(Quote)
Southampton play exactly how I would like us to play. We played closer to it today, but they still do it better & consistently well.
With maybe the exception of Ward-Prowse, I don’t think their players are any better than ours imo.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy: we know that Bruce is clueless because of all of the formations and teams he used and also sticking with Joelinton. Rotation or injuries does not explain this because he would stick with a team whenever we won. He would not adapt. He was called a dinosaur for a reason but they probably didnt adapt, it was likely a meteor, bit I digress 🙂
I am guessing there was some bad stuff on twitter, because there seems to always be some bad stuff on twitter. That’s why I am not on it, because I see enough quotes from there on blogs like this and other places.
I have no problem calling him fat or using the odd swear word to describe him. His record here and everywhere he has been tells us he has death spirals, it did not tell us what a petty thin skinned little man he is. I dodnt really find out until people started quoting what he had said at Villa or the Mackems as I never followed them closely.
But, if we play like that for the rest of the season I will give Bruce a break, although I may ask if it is more about Jones. I will also give him a pass for the away games at City, Man U, Liverpool and Leicester as that would be a bonus if we get anything and I dont care if we shut up shop and play for a draw.
I repeat for the Umpteenth time that this is not a relegation squad but Bruce has shown so far he is a relegation manager, both here and elsewhere.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
What’s that stuff they do for Alcholics? A 12-step programme? Here’s a 3-step guide to rehab Shelvey if we dont get a decent centre mid. I am not sure if the ones we are looking at are any better because I have literally never watched Celtic in 10 years and dont take much notice of Leicester except when they play us.
1. Keep it simple. Not saying no hollywood passes, but 2 or 3 a game.
2. Stay up the pitch. You cannot defend so dont even try most of the time. You can track back if you want but no camping out on our 18 yard line.
3. No set pieces. Only hit moving balls.
Bonus: play him if Gayle is on the pitch.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I have watched Maitland Niles and would take him.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFCDeenJam/status/1355566236755746816
kimtoon(Quote)
Eric – I’m not judging mate, you are entitled to call him what you like.
My grandad told me at a young age that if you have to get aggressive or restore to insults than you weaken your position. I’d be lying if I said I stuck to that my whole life, but I certainly try to.
I don’t think it’s about thick or thin skin, it’s just respect a fellow human being regardless. There’s more important things that football, and unlike Ashley (who I have called names) I don’t think Bruce has ever intentionally done wrong by the club.
Hes not a good manager, at his most successful he was average. But he was offered the chance to manage the club he supports – who wouldn’t take that opportunity??.
I don’t think anyone was wrong to criticise him before today – but the insults play into the hands of those that support him imo. Plus there was more than enough for us in the performances & results ??♂️.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy mate, I dont think you were criticising me. I have been pretty tame about Bruce. I use swear words, I think maybe because I dont have kids so dont have to rein myself in too much. I never swear in front of other peoples’ kids though. I could if I wanted over here though as they dont know what w@nker, ******, nonce, plonker mean 🙂
We are still 5/2 for relegation. I think those odds are too low. I think we should be about 5/1 based on all things considered. On squad strength I reckon about 20/1.
Beating Palace will send the odds way out to like 7/1 and save Bruce’s bacon. Hmmm Bacon.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Well it’s been a while since I watched MOTD. Really enjoyed the game yesterday. We went with a Kinsey of competing, trying to play and trying to score. We did it with some quality too. Credit where it’s due to Bruce.
This doesn’t however give Bruce a clear run. The performances have been dire for too long so he needs to prove this isn’t a one off. We must also approach other games like we did against Everton – especially against teams around us.
Amazing what a player Wilson is when you actually get him involved. Same for Miggy and also a word about Lewis. He looked very good indeed.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stewie: you have to guard against being sucked in by Bruce. He will go from a blamer and apologist to a braggard and gloater taking any bit of credit there is going. It is his nature. He is a failure and has always been a failure in Management and he is not good enough for NUFC.
A week ago you were not wanting to watch this team because of his tactics and methods. He has blamed everybody but himself and will credit only himself if things go OK. Remember we are 16th with a team that should be at least 5 places further up the table and playing much better football. I think we have played about 3 halfs of semi-watchable football this whole season and were also **** the last 5 or 6 games of last season.
You were saying the other day we had 21 points from 26 games.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
So Irish Taoiseach, Micheál Martin was on Andrew Marr this morning talking about the vaccine issue between the UK, Ireland and the EU.
Interesting that he made a point of saying it’s in the UK’s interest that all other countries are vaccinated as soon as possible for us both health wise ( to prevent mutations )and Economically to get us all moving again.
That we really have to come together with a greater degree of cooperation between nations.
He also stated that the EU have every right to be angry, as we would all be, if we had not received something we had paid for.
The same sentiments were echoed by his political commentators on his show.
Nice to know i’m not going completely nuts with my thoughts the other day on here.
kimtoon(Quote)
We all knew this squad was much better than the way they were playing and that was down to Bruce and his negativity, both in tactics and manner.
He has not been short of players this season. Do you hear Dean Smith complaining? Pep? He chose to play Joelinton ahead of Miggy and Fraser. It cannot possibly take 4 months for a player to get fit even if he had a layoff.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Bruce is a charlatan. When it goes wrong he blames others, including the fans who are not even in the stadium. When it goes right he takes all of the credit. If everything was going to plan there would not have been new coach appointed over the heads of his “trusted lieutenants” for however many years and the new coach would not be seen directing operations and pretty much taking over from the general (Bruce) on the field.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I am living through the biggest charlatan and cultist since Hitler so I know a con artist when I see one and Bruce is a conman.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stu – Lewis & ASM look really dangerous on that left side mate. They are really developing a good partnership and haven’t been playing alongside each other long – so I only see that getting stronger.
I still think Lewis needs to develop a bit defensively, but he’s young.
I’d still get Jetro because I think Lewis would learn and develop more training with him. Plus he proved to be a good first team LB before injury last season.
Sharpy17(Quote)
You look at Mourinho, Klopp, Pep. Do you think any of them would have allowed Graeme Jones to step in front of them and direct THEIR players like Jones did yesterday? And then take credit in afterwards saying it was the plan all along. Were was that plan against Sheffield? He makes **** up. They all do, but he is particularly self serving because he is bad at his job. He threw everybody under the bus only about 10 days ago and now wants credit.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Reports today suggesting we are after Joe Willock – I’ve suggested him a few weeks ago & think he’d be a good option.
I suggested Billy Gilmour from Chelsea too & hes asked for a loan move now Tuchel is in. I think he’d be a good option.
I do think the Chelsea youngsters are screwed now. I think Tuchel has been told to get the bought players in the team – the transfer fees & wages need to be in the team – meaning the younger players are far less likely to get their chance.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy: Lewis and St Max played well together earlier in the season. Then St Max was switched to a free role which didnt work. I dont blame Bruce for trying that. It could have worked and we would have been better for it. But now we know so we should stick with St Max on the wings. Just like we know Joelinton should never start another game for NUFC.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
If we can get 1 or 2 midfielders in on loan I’d let Longstaff go to Valencia & £15m to buy seems fair to me.
I’d we can get Choundry on loan with a £10m buy option then that’s good business.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Eric – agreed on ASM mate. But call me crazy, I wouldn’t write Joe off just yet. Bare with me here ?.
We’ve only seen Joe when as a team we sit deep, don’t press & have less than 30% possession – no doubt he’s ineffective played that way – most our players are, but none as much as him.
But I’d like to see him in the team when we play like we did yesterday. I think we would see a different player than the target man we had him playing. I’m not suggesting he’d be a world beater or become our new superstar – far from it. But I do think he’d be more effective & we’d see an improvement.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy, we are said to be after Olivier Ntcham from Celtic.
kimtoon(Quote)
Can’t agree on Joe Sharpy, his first touch isn’t great and i just don’t think he’s cut out for the PL. He works hard and he’s a nice lad but he just doesn’t fit in.
Looks like Yedlin is defo away too to Galatasary
kimtoon(Quote)
Yes and one swallow doesn’t make a summer. He shouldn’t be judged by one game – good or bad. He has a long way to go but the team must play consistently in a manner different from what we have and more like yesterday. Do I think he’s capable of taking us forward? Unlikely but he still deserves credit.
Stuart79(Quote)
What did you expect him to say, Kim? He couldn’t even criticise Macron for his grotesquely irresponsible comments on AstraZeneca. That does kind of show you that his words aren’t necessarily what he thinks but what he has to say.
Oh and the EU haven’t paid for the vaccine yet. The UK have and also paid for the initial stages too in its development and trials.
But, I personally would offer the ROI some vaccines after we have vaccinated all over 50’s in this country. We have a land border with them, a common travel area and we are linked closely economically and socially. I suspect, however the EU commission would not welcome such and offer and wouldn’t allow ROI to accept.
Stuart79(Quote)
Kim – he’s looked decent at Celtic & they are a mess at the moment.
I’d be happy with either him or Choundry to be fair.
Same with Willock or Gilmour – I’d be happy with either.
They reckon a CB too – I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s not Phil Jones. I rather it wasn’t, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Kim – Michael Martin also, quite extraordinarily told the UK to “just calm down” and “dial down the tone” which is staggering when you consider the UK government haven’t even got involved in this AstraZeneca/EU spat and didn’t really even respond to the EU’s triggering of Art 16 of the Irish protocol.
Fair degree of **** covering and distraction going on in the EU I think, Kim. They cocked right up.
Stuart79(Quote)
Kim – I think the role he’s been asked to play in the last 18 months he’s definitely struggled with. But to be fair, even Wilson struggled with it. Joes hold up play is awful
and for many games he was probably getting less than 10 touches a game because of our lack of possession – he was awful. Not disputing that for a second.
But even Hendrick & Shelvey looked better playing that style yesterday. Wilson had more than double the touches yesterday than against Leeds & was outstanding yesterday, but he can’t do it every week – we don’t want to run him into the ground.
I’d like to look at Joe in that role playing the way we did yesterday. If he’s hopeless then get rid. But I think it’s only fair to look at him in a more offensive team with players like Almiron, ASM and Fraser buzzing round him.
I don’t expect him to be brilliant, but certainly better.
I expect we will let Carroll & Gayle go in the summer, certainly Gayle, so we may as well look at Joe in this playing style so we can properly assess what we have.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Kim/Stu – I think any political that is p!ssing and moaning in public has their priorities wrong.
We’ve heard them question how quickly we raced through the trials because we were first to sign off on them, and now are chewing on again because we gambled and committed a lot of money in buying vaccines before they were ready or proven. It was a risk & had it not come good they would get slaughtered – but as it has, it’s left the EU looking like they moved too slow – they did, but why’s that our fault?!.
What I don’t get is Iran are miles ahead of everyone on this – why aren’t they crabbing on to them??.
The politicians need to grow up & get their heads together to find a way to resolve this but do it behind closed doors coz at the moment it’s like a set of kids twisting about how to share out the trick or treat kets!!.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stu, So you are saying be shouldn’t be looking at the bigger picture regards mutations and economic fall out if ALL countries are not as vaccinated as quickly as us for instance ?
Also, it’s amazing how you have developed the ability to mind read what Micheál Martin REALLY THINKS, wow.
kimtoon(Quote)
That’s kinda my point mate.
kimtoon(Quote)
I’m sorry, Kim I cannot accept anything on “economic fallout” from you. Not because I don’t want to read it but because you have had a remarkably laissez faire attitude towards the economy up to now.
It’s very obvious the UK’s ability to find new strains is due to our world class genomics programme which is responsible for at least 50% of all the worlds genomic testing. That’s how we will help the world fight new strains – by detecting it where others can’t. I also believe we should help other countries with vaccines but only once the government have fulfilled their obligations to British citizens. As I said, once we have the over 50’s done we can look at helping others. I’m really not sure why someone’s life in Africa is worth more than someone’s in Bristol. I’m also not sure how a poorer UK will be a positive to the developing world. The longer we take to secure the health of our citizens the poorer we become. Maybe you can tell me how that helps?
I don’t know what was in Michael Martin’s mind but I’m almost certain he doesn’t agree with what Macron said. Or do you think he does agree with him? If so, shouldn’t he have said so?
Stuart79(Quote)
“I’m really not sure why someone’s life in Africa is worth more than someone’s in Bristol. ”
WOW.
If that’s your mind set i truly feel sorry for you.
It’s so much bigger than that Stuart and you know it. As was said today , It really is pointless vaccinating the whole of our population whilst the rest of the world lags so far behind, particularly third world countries. All the while mutations are building with every poorly vaccinated country. Now as good as our top scientist are they are always going to be playing catch up in so far as getting on top these new strains popping up. In the meantime yay were all vaccinated but oh, it’s pretty useless if once we open up again we have in coming from less well vaccinated countries bringing new strains here.
That will be more lockdowns and a well and truly Fooked economy, you must see that.
I know that you think i don’t care about the economy but i do, you base it on my jobs coming back comment months ago. You know full well what i was getting at, that once we get on top of this and properly re open up, businesses will start up again, cafes, hotels, air travel and so on, jobs will be there, not the old jobs but new ones. I know people have lost businesses and homes and that’s truly tragic but people, over 100,000 and counting have died here too and much more world wide.
It’s a human tragedy on an epic scale and calls for a global reaction of speedy vaccination worldwide not just in the UK and EU and US.
Compassion cost so little to the richest countries yet means so much to the poorest ones and benefits us all in the end- the bigger picture .
kimtoon(Quote)
You don’t vaccinate the world by sharing out the ones being produced – it’s short sighted imo.
The way you tackle this globally is sharing manufacturing methods so that each country can produce their own.
It’s similar to the ‘give a man a fish’ scenario.
Forget all the arguing about a handful of vaccines & start sharing good practices of what’s working and how each Country can start look after themselves.
Surely that has to be the answer doesn’t it?!.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I’m wondering where you could show me where I’ve said we should be vaccinating the whole of our country and sod the rest, Kim? Could you point me in the direction of that comment please?
Stuart79(Quote)
Couldn’t agree more, Sharpy. Wealthy countries have a part to play but without a strong economy wealthy countries can’t help. That’s why, in my opinion we have to get back to something like normality and then help others. I find it amazing some people think extending our damaging lockdown, whilst watching people die who’s lives could be saved and damaging our economy further and for longer so we can give vaccines away is the way to do it.
There’s a greater good but making us poorer isn’t going to help anybody in Africa for instance. Let’s get ourselves in a better position and then help others.
There’s a reason why during a flight safety demo they tell you to sort your own life vest first…
Stuart79(Quote)
So Sharpy? You are saying we should take a second look at Joelinton?
I think we should take a big pile of stinking dump on Joelinton.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Joelinton is ****.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
If you defend Joelinton again Sharpy I will never read a thing you say – ever. Like, ever!!!
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Well clearly you don’t read what I write too closely anyway – I’ve never defended him. I’ve said he’s been truly awful.
But then other than Darlow, tell me one player who has been consistently good the way Bruce had us playing?!. Joelinton has been the absolute worst of a not too good bunch.
I think the way we played yesterday would suit him better than the way we were. I’ve said I don’t expect miracles & him to all of a sudden become a world beater. But what do we have to lose by looking at him playing this more aggressive offensive style?!.
If he shows improvement, great we have another offensive option in the squad – if he doesn’t, well we know.
The alternative is we leave a £40m player sat on the bench – which seems pretty pointless to me like.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Also worth remembering the Germans actually out a export ban on exporting PPE during the first wave of this thing.
Stuart79(Quote)
It’s no coincidence we’ve looked better than with10 man Joelinton. He’s the one stopping us playing good football. He’s totally **** Sharpy in any playing style.
georgio(Quote)
So what, just because member countries of the EU behave like D ick heads , it doesn’t mean we have to drop to their level does it.
Sod the *** for tat attitude , it’s like kids as Sharpy says.
He said she said never got us anywhere.
kimtoon(Quote)
I’m wondering where you could show me where I’ve said we should be vaccinating the whole of our country and sod the rest, Kim? Could you point me in the direction of that comment please?
Did i actually say you had ?
Why do you twist and distort what i post? All it does is send the conversation off on a different course, why would you do that i wonder.
kimtoon(Quote)
You just defended Joelinton again!!!!!
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Make no mistake.
JoeLinton is Shyte and should never ever play for NUFC again and should never ever play in the U23s, juniors, U8s. Th ball bounces off him like a super-ball. He is shyte and a waste of space who only helps the opposition.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Some are saying Jones hasn’t been at the club to affect such an improvement. They’ve obviously forgotten 13 years at Belgium doing precisely that! He has a couple of days at most affecting the No1 team in the world.
georgio(Quote)
Some are saying Jones hasn’t been at the club long enough to affect such an improvement. They’ve obviously forgotten 13 years at Belgium doing precisely that! He has a couple of days at most affecting the No1 team in the world.
georgio(Quote)
Eric – so what do we do with him then?.
Gayle is gone in the summer for sure, Carroll is a strong possibility too. If we had an Armaz or Toney coming through I wouldn’t think twice, but Rafa saw those 2 off and to my mind we have nothing behind them.
Do you reckon Ashley is going to give another £40m to replace him?, and I don’t see many clubs offering £20m to take him off our hands (similar to Haller at WH).
It’s all well and good saying get rid of him – how long have we been saying that about the likes Saviet or Lazaar for example – and plenty more before them?.
Carr is kicking around the club again – maybe just for the coach deal or maybe Ashley wants to go back to bargain basement shopping until he can sell the club – if that ever happens.
Ww aren’t a club that can just turn their back on a £40m purchase like Chelsea or City could.
So what do we do with him?.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Georgio – are you saying he has made the change in 2 days or he hasn’t had long enough just yet?.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy re Ntcham, he’s with the same agency as Lascelles, Gayle and Wilson.
kimtoon(Quote)
Well I think we get Choundry in before the window closes.
Rodgers wanted a replacement in before letting him go & wants Chalobah from Watford. Watford have just signed Dan Gosling so that should set the way for Chalobah and in turn Choundry to move on.
Looks like Yedlins deal is done for around £5m and Bmth look set to buy Ritchie for £4m – so Ashley will still have coined it in this window ??.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Kim – there’s a couple of French clubs in for him too though.
Choundry was tweeting about our game yesterday & like I say, I think he’ll be freed up to move tomorrow.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy, was he , what was he saying ?
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – He was just liking posted & a round of applause caption – but it’s the first time ever at a time we are looking to loan him – my home school maths ain’t great to I may be putting 2 n 2 together like ?
Sharpy17(Quote)