Both The Star and The Mirror claim that we’ve bid for the 22-year-old although given the age of the defender, the importance to West Ham of gaining promotion this season, and the fact that he is English (not that it should matter, but it does) has resulted in the bid not being deemed sufficient enough.
Of course we could lodge increased bids in the future, but I get the feeling it will take somewhere near double what we’ve offered to get the Hammers to do business with us. Maybe if we throw Alan Smith into the deal they’ll look at things more favourably? I jest of course as nobody would seriously consider signing Alan Smith would they?
Anyway, Tomkins has been at West Ham since the age of seven and has made 78 first team appearances during his time at Upton Park. He is more commonly known as a centre-back but he can play equally as well at right-back, which is rather interesting given the current situation with Danny Simpson’s contract. James has also featured for England at every level from U16 to U21.
Personally I really rate the lad and think he would be right up our street. He can play in a couple of positions, has Premier League experience, has age on his side and wouldn’t command a fortune in wages. He’s even had his fair share of injuries throughout his fledgling career. Essentially he ticks every single box of what it seems as though the club look for in a deal.
Tomkins has two years left to run on his current deal and is in talks with West Ham over a new contract although negotiations appear to have reached an impasse and with Sam Allardyce insisting that the Essex boy is a key part of his future plans you’d have to think there is a chance that a deal between the two parties can be reached.
It’s all just speculation at the moment though and I wouldn’t put too much credit in these reports. They are after all from the red top brigade so they hardly come with a glowing track record of being on the money. I would like our interest to be real but we’ll see what happens.
Maybe Stevie Taylor, his former England U21 Captain, can have a word with him!
So it’s a possibility we could get him for double the 2.5 at 5 mill? this would seem to be a good move and it would fit the clubs mould of young and (almost) cheap. If he goes for full wack then that would mean spending 11-12 mill on maiga and tomkins and that just doesn’t sound like fatty does it?
This would seem a bit more feasable if we were about to offload a couple of players…. wait…. 😕
Nobby(Quote)
he looks like that ‘Ray’ someone off of x factor a few years ago.
not that i watch it 😉
Nobby(Quote)
Interesting, I reckon he’d be a good signing for us. Would love to trafe him for Smudge like!
Jamie Vincente(Quote)
Good to see that we’re trying to get our January business tied up before January
AndrewT(Quote)
I think Tomkins is very poor and a large part of why west ham went down. When we beat them 5-0 (Best’s hat trick) he was absolutely woeful and very error prone a la Bramble.
Go for MBiwa
Nick D(Quote)
Hammers fan here. Big Sam aint gonna let him go…. He’s too important to the club. Not just in defence, but fat sams set pieces are all aimed at him and he wins everything in the box.
If we let him go, Sam might have to play some attractive football and that wouldn’t be on now would it 😉 !!
Bazuado(Quote)
He’s Welsh isn’t he, not english?
Nick D(Quote)
Bazuado
Sam might have to play some attractive football and that wouldn’t be on now would it !!
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We know from bitter experience that aint never going to happen !!! It’s a shame a proud ”footballing” team like West Ham have got that oaf in charge. Yes he’ll get you up, but it’s always going to be negative, physical, long ball anti – football. About as opposite to Barcelona as you could get !
Nick D(Quote)
Bazuado: Fat Sam owes us something as our club paid for his huge Villa in Spain with his settlement aptly named St James.
The football West Ham play will only get worse with this idiot, who believes all his own hype.
Wonder what he is going to buy with his West Ham pay off.
BillytheFish(Quote)
As a hammer, I’d be absolutely gutted if Tomkins left, I find the previous comment about his performance vs your lot (5-0) very harsh, you must remember we had a clueless muppet of Grant in charge who was only taking us 1 place, and that’s where we are now.
Tomkins can play anywhere across the back and is a sound defender, he has pace, wins most headers and is a great tackler of the ball, sometimes his awareness can let him down but he is still learning and I think he is top class and is still improving. If you were to sign him, as with Ba, I can confirm you’ll be getting a top class defender at a great price. Though I don’t see Big Sam selling. All the best this season lads, have a good 1. Brad.
Brad(Quote)
Would not spend any more than £3m on him, with future payments based on how successful he may or may not be. A promising young lad, who will only get better – but not anything to get too excited about at this early stage in his career. Great signing as a squad player for now though, right age too and who knows – if he apllied himself in the right way he could end up a regular starter. Certainly would not grunmble if we signed him provided it was at the right price. Would add some much needed depth…
Shamrock(Quote)
Thanks Brad,
Good measured account there. Always liked the hammers, just not your current manager !!
NickD(Quote)
I’ve always thought he is a good and upcoming centre back, he would be a very good player to have but I agree with Shamrock – I dont think we should pay more than 3m.
AndrewNUFC(Quote)
Nick…He’s English 😉
Decent signing…….for the right price.
richietoon(Quote)
Remember the 5-0 west ham trashing at st james park last year. Best physically dominated tomkins in the air. Check the highlights and playback the first goal in particular how leon best dumps tomkins to the ground and scores the goal.
bobby martins(Quote)
everytime I’ve seen him he’s been ****. always caught daydreaming, decent back-up player but won’t take us anywhere fast. any1else in for him if he’s so good?
I’d rather keep Simmo and 2.5mil
mark(Quote)
@bobby martins
yes he’s ****, there is a lot better out there. we’re settling for 2nd best again.. 😯
mark(Quote)
Nobby @5Mill? have you ever seen this guy play? wow we must have cash to burn 🙄
mark(Quote)
It looks like Brad has just owned Nick D. 😛
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I hope they dont sign Tomkinks he is grap
Dan(Quote)
Serious question, is everyone who’s saying he’s **** just basing it on the 5-0 or have they actually seen alot of the lad play?
Have we many players in our squad who haven’t had several **** games?….no, they all have them.
I haven’t seen much of him but he looks decent enough,5-0 apart, where he was **** funnily enough 😉 At the end of the day it’s tabloid rumours but if we are interested then I’ll put my faith in Pards and the scouts as they havn’t done too bad a job so far.
richietoon(Quote)
wasnt Simmo a cheapo from another reserve team? thats why we got him cheap… why swap 1 for another?
probably tabloid pap, hopefully
mark(Quote)
@richietoon
saw him quite a few time for the ammers, never liked the look of him in any of the games i saw, always thought he was the weak link in a **** team. I remember thinking ‘ne wonder there going down with players like him in their team’..now we’re after him 🙁
mark(Quote)
“I’ll put my faith in Pards”
more like in Ashleys pocket, pards probably hasnt owt to do with it, he’s cheap in a 2nd rate division and has potential to sell if things turn out rosey, thats the plan m8. a bit like simmo… 5mill any1?
mark(Quote)
Mark…but maybe he’s progressed? he’s only 22 after all, like I say I’ll trust our scouting staff. He’s not reserve he’s first choice I think 😉 Probably tabloid **** and we’ll end up with someone from the Blue Square…..on loan 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Surely that isn’t troy stavers the serial bulls……r from way back ????????
Nick D(Quote)
“pards probably hasnt owt to do with it”….in that case I presume You must be giving Fatboy and Delboy all the credit for Ba, Tiote,Cabaye etc as it was nowt to do with Pards and the scouts?
richietoon(Quote)
Wow…. Now that was a big bite Nick 😛
Troy Stavers(Quote)
mark that’s my point – we’d never pay that much – i was saying it as an extreme.
Nobby(Quote)
Nobby, you’re always extreme 😉
richietoon(Quote)
Funnily enough, I remember watching some of our own players and thinking “nee wonder we went down with that ****”
Now one is at Liverpool. One is our Captain etc etc 😉
Perhaps a step down has helped him out like it did for some of our players? It can’t have been easy for a lad at the age of 20 to go into a struggling team and do well. Maybe he has improved?
toonsy(Quote)
If I’m honest, more inclined to listen to the Hammers fans who watch him week in week out rather than our own lot who a) don’t and b) slag off our own players pretty consistently for no reason…
Moreno(Quote)
Good point well made toonsy, I think that is exactly the case, he has had that **** ( england CB?!!) Upson next to him and it has moved him backwards, he does have lapses,etc, but at 22 he is an outstanding prospect. Him and Winston Reid were looking great for us this season, my favourite current player for us.
Not good under Grant, but improving all the time in this current fat man’s team.
Any road you aint getting him, it’s Woodgate you want back
Sam sham(Quote)
Firstly, I’m a West Ham fan and feel I need to retort to many of these “he’s ****” comments. For many years, Tomkins was seen as the next big thing coming through the West Ham youth teams. Pardew was also very involved in his earlier days, so knows a lot about him. When he broke into the first team he looked very good for someone of his age.
Unfortunately, our last 2 years in the Premiership were awful and Tomkin’s confidence was shot to pieces. Lat season under Avram (quite simply the worst manager we’ve every had) Tomkins did play badly, but in fairness, so did everyone else. This season we’ve started to see the real Tomkins. Physical presence, aerial ability, pace, he can play the ball on the floor, and real commitment. As someone said, his positional sense needs work sometimes, but that comes with experience. I’m convinced Tomkins will play for England one day. I’d be absolutely gutted if he left. However, I really can’t see it happening, and definitely not for £5m. The only scenario I could see it happening is if at the end of January it looks like we’re not going up. Anyway, you got Ba off us for nothing! I told my Geordie mate he’d score 20 goals for you this season. Stupid Avram was playing him on the left wing!
DEN(Quote)
What about £4m plus Alan Smith and a bag of Quavers? 😆
toonsy(Quote)
For reference, the bag of Quavers is the more expensive part of the exchange. Not Smith 😆
toonsy(Quote)
Toonsy, fat Sam is blatantly a pork scratchings kind of guy. He sits with a multipack of them surrounded by ashtrays to collect all the bits he sprays out of his fat tusk filled mouth
Moreno(Quote)
I think he butters himself up in the nuddy with blocks of Lard whilst looking in the mirror telling himself how great he is whilst getting a reacharound from another fat oaf in Kevin Nolan doing exactly the same thing 😯
toonsy(Quote)
Toonsy,
That just got me off 😯
😆
Moreno(Quote)
Me too 😕
Sam only got me to the the vinegar strokes but Big Kev finished me off 😯
toonsy(Quote)
We will only take Alan smith if Tony Adams comes as part of the deal.
And you know those sausage fingers of fat Sam make you feel all warm inside. and the mucky mess he makes on the outside, goose fat is his chewing preference(seasonal choice), he is the messiah, come to save us sad hammers from real football
Sam sham(Quote)
Sam Sham….Bearing in mind Sam’s preferred type of football, would you be happy with him as your manager long term or just to get you promoted and stabilised in the Prem?….that’s if Real Madrid don’t come in for him and snatch him away 😉
richietoon(Quote)
pay the money i say. if the money is right for the two dell boys running west ham they will snap it up in a second
Super Marv(Quote)
I would be over moon if this happened….Ive went on about him so much since the last window its became an obsession! 😆
Send Kadar in the other direction…Fat Sam rates him!
Oblong(Quote)
ah well, I take it he’s improved since last season, when he was ****, just not sure if he’s any better than Simmo apart from being more versitile. I would be surprised if’s he’s quicker.
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Richietoon.
He was the last person I wanted at West Ham, but after the debacle of the Icelandics, then the porn twins and Avram, along with several overpaid ******(Dyer you leeching ****) it is kind of refreshing to have a manager who takes no ****.
Having said that on my two ventures to the Boleyn this season I can see the tradegy unfolding before my claret and blue tinted glasses.
We like to have one of us,mucg the same as yous.
So a straight swap for Pards if you like as he was the best manager we have had in many years(as much as he loves himself)
Oh and why did Nolan looks so good in the black and white, and now he is on more pies than Sam.. can’t even run.
Rant over, get the fat man out soon as we are out this awful league
Sam sham(Quote)