Welcome to the Etihad?

It feels like an eternity since I’ve last written this bit, so welcome one and all to the ‘Game On’ article which will take us through every twist and turn of the match against Manchester City.

In a season that has been full of first real tests, the game against Mancini’s title-chasing outfit provides with another as we go toe to toe with the superstars of the Etihad Stadium.

There is an edge to this game today. Whilst a lot of Newcastle fans aren’t expecting much apart from a decent performance, there are some other interesting sideshows that could develop today. The first one being Hatem Ben Arfa who will revisit the scene of his horror injury for the first time since Nigel de Jong put him out of the game for a year. The other one being an unbeaten record that both teams possess, with only one being the overwhelming favourite to hold that accolade come around 5pm this afternoon.

This is a match that needs little build up. The task is huge and the odds are against us, but we’ve dealt with that already this season and at the end of the day it’s only 11 v 11 on a little grass field. Simple, yet true.

If you fancy having a look at some impressive stats, potential team news, injury updates and a bit more background to the fixture then why take a look at Shamrock’s fantastic match preview article here. Honestly, it’s a cracking read.

In terms of streaming, the match is on numerous overseas channels so picking one up should be easy enough. Once again the emphasis is on the word ‘should’ as trying to grab a stream can sometimes be hard work. However, should you stumble across a good one then make sure you leave a link for it so others can share it.

That just about wraps it up for me and now we must leave it to our boys to write the rest with their actions at the Etihad this afternoon.

Howay the lads!

Manchester City: Joe Hart, Micah Richards, Joleon Lescott, Vincent Kompany, Gael Clichy, Nigel De Jong, James Milner, Yaya Toure, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero, Mario Balotelli

Subs: Costel Pantilimon, Kolo Toure, Aleksander Kolarov, Garteh Barry, Adam Johnson, David Silva, Edin Dzeko

Newcastle: Tim Krul, Danny Simpson, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini, Ryan Taylor’ Jonas Gutierrez, Danny Guthrie, Yohan Cabaye, Sammy Ameobi, Hatem Ben Arfa, Demba Ba.

Subs: Rob Elliot, James Perch, Davide Santon, Alan Smith, Dan Gosling, Peter Lovenkrands, Shola Ameobi

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436 Comments

  1. 1
    hitman says:

    MAN CITY TEAM: Hart, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Kompany, De Jong, Milner, Yaya, Nasri, Aguero, Baloteli :shock:

  2. 2
    toonsy says:

    David Silva on bench for City

  3. 3
    DevonMag says:

    Silva rested!!!

  4. 4
    richietoon says:

    Weakest bench we’ve had for a while, but was obviously going to be the case with the injuries :???:

  5. 5
    toonsy says:

    Rich – James Perch will mash em up ;)

    Ans Smith :shock:

  6. 6
    Rodzilla says:

    I thought Nasri was out?

    feck

    …at least Silva is on the bench.

  7. 7
    richietoon says:

    Toonsy…..aye Smith coming on would be like Silva coming on for them :lol:

  8. 8
    premandup says:

    Our team as expected. Hatem & Sammi both start

  9. 9
    DJG says:

    Hasn’t exactly filled me full of confidence, they are basically full strength no suprises there and we are a few short.

  10. 10
    Whumpie says:

    Wow – what a test for Sameobi! Gwaaaarrrrn son!!

    More of a shock is that it’s the starting 11 I predicted/wanted. And as Toonsy will confirm, I know precisely dick about this stuff. Must be getting better :mrgreen:

    What a game this should be…

  11. 11
    DJG says:

    I thought Santon would offer more in terms of tracking back and experience. The dude must suck in training. :???:

  12. 12
    JoeSoap says:

    to be fair I think that side is near enough as good as any we could put out. Tiote might have made the difference but Guthrie deserves this chance anyway. Might need to bring on Santon if a more defensive approach seems prudent, but he’s definitely going for it and why not ….gerrrrin!

  13. 13
    Axel says:

    Well Pardew is planning to attack them with that lineup , just seen who they have on the bench :shock: never mind the starting 11 and all of a sudden i am feeling less optimistic about this one.

  14. 14
    Stuart79 says:

    I personally think Pards has made a bit of a mistake. They will have three in the centre of midfield with Milner, Toure and De Jong against our two – this could be a long day!

    Will we get the ball?

  15. 15
    Big Dave says:

    Lads I like the look of this team ;-)

  16. 16
    toonsy says:

    Rich @ 7 – Yes. It’ll will be exactly like that :lol:

  17. 17
    Big Dave says:

    Stuart I just hope our players don’t have the same attitude as you lad :grin:

  18. 18
    Whumpie says:

    Good call by AP – go at them with as many quick feet as we can. QPR nearly pulled that one off but haven’t got the squad we have. Really could have done wtih Obertan, but hey – still an exciting prospect.

    If Sammy scores we’re on the pitch!

    Oh. Best not. Not again, eh. :oops:

  19. 19
    toonsy says:

    Stu – It depends. Hopefully Benny will occupy one of the midfielders which leaves two on two. Could be a long day for Ba though.

  20. 20
    Whumpie says:

    Of course, if/when we get an injury we’re screwed. But don’t worry – we’ll be 4-0 up by then! :lol:

    Silva on the bench. Shiiiiiiiiiit, how rich are this lot??

  21. 21
    Stuart79 says:

    Aye, Toonsy, I wonder if De Jong is the guy to mark Arfa? That should be fin. Maybe Ben Arfa might think he has something to pay back to De Jong, like maybe a wonder display!

  22. 22
    JoeSoap says:

    thing is de jong might not want to be seen as a complete thug again so it might just give hba the edge….lot of mights & maybes in there like!

  23. 23
    Army69 says:

    link 4 the game??

  24. 24
    DJG says:

    Aye ‘we won’t win nowt with 11 Milners’ Graham Souness. Bloody keeping Silva on the bench!

  25. 25
    hitman says:

    hand on heart says we are going to get dry bummed the day like

  26. 26
    Big Dave says:

    Stu I was wondering how De Jong will go about tackling Benny ? will he tackle like usual or will he be a bit unsure ?

  27. 27
    SpencerTheToon says:

    This is going to be a end to end game imo, unfortunately, they will be at our end 50 more times than we will be at theirs :lol:

  28. 28
    Big Dave says:

    Hitman love your faith :evil:

  29. 29
    Stuart79 says:

    He comes across as being a bit of a knob so I expect him to be just like normal.

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  31. 31
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Hitman- You yourself going to get dry bummed all day? feel for you mate :lol:

  32. 32
    MDS says:

    Go on now Sammy! Nice to see Pards rewarding a youngin rather than try to make a CM a RM.

    But damn our back 4 are going to have their hands full :|

  33. 33
    KeithRToon says:

    Silva on the bench is a definite plus. If they go 3 in midfield it could be a long day though without Tiote in there to intimidate.

    Massive test for Sammy too! Richards is lethal going forward, hopefully he tracks him properly. Would rather have seen Gutierrez on the left tbh.

    Benny vs De Jong though haha should be interesting! Very good chance of one or the other getting sent off, wonder what the odds are…

    City still very strong even without Silva.
    Heart says 1 – 1. Head says 3 – 1 City.

  34. 34
    DJG says:

    Basically we’ve got 3 players who do very little defensively. So he’s not going to park the bus.

  35. 35
    DJG says:

    KeithRToon

    November 19, 2011 at 14:37

    ‘Massive test for Sammy too! Richards is lethal going forward, hopefully he tracks him properly. Would rather have seen Gutierrez on the left tbh.’

    What makes you think Sammy will be on the left? If I was Pardew I would leave Jonas in front of Raylor.

  36. 36
    DJG says:

    Plus Sammy has played RWF loads.

  37. 37
    MDS says:

    Got to love Warren Barton- just now on the pre-match: ” I think Newcastle can take a three points form Chelsea at St James’ Park…yes that’s what I ‘m going to continue to call it.” ;-)

    He’s already got a stiffy over this match ;-)

  38. 38
    HebburnMag says:

    Am well excited think the international break has made me like a young fan again haha…

    Am gonna put ma neck out and say a cheeky 1-0 to us!!!

    Lets wind these fuckers up they hate it and start lashing out, Micha Richards to give away a pen and Cabaye to put it away.

    If Sammy scores am kicking the cat :lol:

  39. 39
    Stuart79 says:

    One possible plus for us is that City have had hardly anyone at the training ground for the last two weeks…

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    nobby says:

    Alreet lads how’s tricks…. absolutely buzzing today… hope you’re all feeling optimistic!!! :twisted:

    I’m really chuffed for sammy and HBA :mrgreen:

  42. 42
    KeithRToon says:

    Hopefully so DJG, especially considering Silva is not starting on the left for them. Reason I think Jonas is on the right (or was. might see a last minute change now) is I expect Pards will have wanted him to help mark Silva.

  43. 43
    ron says:

    chris guthrie :shock: :grin: :grin: :grin:

  44. 44
    DJG says:

    One thing about Sammy is that he has no fear which should help today. These sorts of games usually come down to bottle.

  45. 45
    ice pup says:

    cheers for the links everyone i always appreciate it

  46. 46
    Shamrock says:

    Well BBC are to blame for the Nasri cock up. They said he was out long term with tendonitis! Good news that Silva is rested. Hopefully Aguero’s groin will old him up. Nasri has 6 assists this season, bit of a worry :shock:

  47. 47
    Stuart79 says:

    Ben Arfa should have butted him during the shake of hands!

  48. 48
    Stuart79 says:

    I have a bad feeling. We could be two down within 20 mins.

  49. 49
    toonsy says:

    Howay the lads!

  50. 50
    toonsy says:

    Stu – Or we could be two up ;)

  51. 51
    Johno Toon says:

    Here we go! Come on the lads!!!

  52. 52
    richietoon says:

    Feckin Cooommmmmmmmme Onnnnnnn HTL

  53. 53
    Newkie says:

    Sammy and Benny? Blimey, throwing the dice of necessity eh

  54. 54
    HebburnMag says:

    And it begins big colo

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  56. 56
    toonsy says:

    Well we’re doing better than the last game against them :lol:

  57. 57
    HebburnMag says:

    Giving them too much room infront of goal

  58. 58
    Stuart79 says:

    They look fcking good!

    Come on ref blow your whistle!

  59. 59
    SpencerTheToon says:

    The first goal will be vital today, to be honest, I will be happy if there isnt one :lol:

  60. 60
    toonsy says:

    Walsall 0-1 Bury ;)

  61. 61
    toonsy says:

    Wigan 1-1 Blackburn

  62. 62
    toonsy says:

    Stoke1-0 Joey FC

  63. 63
    Big Dave says:

    Batty hows tricks are you enjoying your freedom ;-)
    Citeh do look as good as was expected :cry:

  64. 64
    toonsy says:

    Ben Arfa is doing a lot of chasing and harassing. Good lad

  65. 65
    Whumpie says:

    Anyone got a stream with a really clear picture? Most are pretty fuzzy…

  66. 66
    Whumpie says:

    Wow. Don’t think we can do 90 minutes of this…

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    toonsy says:

    Krul needs to sort his kicking

  70. 70
    Shamrock says:

    Benny is looking good, nice skills. That chipped pass by Guthrie or Cabeye out to the wide man was excellent.

  71. 71
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Reminds me of the England vs Spain match :shock:

  72. 72
    Shamrock says:

    Was just about to say that Toonsy, it’s an area of his game he needs to improve.

  73. 73
    toonsy says:

    West Brom 1-0 Bolton

  74. 74
    Big Dave says:

    fuk imsure the lads will be tired after this game :???:

  75. 75
    Whumpie says:

    That’s a bit better – ta lads.

  76. 76
    toonsy says:

    Boro 1-0 Blackpool

  77. 77
    toonsy says:

    Try tightening your studs Saylor :???:

  78. 78
    Big Dave says:

    im surprised by Benny trying to get stuck in :???:

  79. 79
    Munich Mag says:

    It’s gonna be a gruelling test of endurance today. A lot of time spent without or chasing the ball. Howay lads, hold your discipline.

    Man the commentators on Setanta are ALL for Man City…

  80. 80
    HebburnMag says:

    Man City are good :???:

  81. 81
    toonsy says:

    Book Richards for kicking the ball away surely?

    We need to do something other than clear the ball to Ba.

    West Brom 1-1 Bolton

  82. 82
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Fuck sake cabaye, doing kick ups in our own half!

  83. 83
    Shamrock says:

    Eek!

  84. 84
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy @ 77 aye on the back of Aguero’s calf :lol:

  85. 85
    toonsy says:

    Stoke 1-1 Joey FC

  86. 86
    toonsy says:

    Boro 1-1 Blackpool

  87. 87
    HebburnMag says:

    Hope Ba is ok Strolla will be too slow for this sort of game

  88. 88
    Newkie says:

    Is that sammy down? got a really choppy stream :???:

  89. 89
    Munich Mag says:

    Man City look good on the ball, but you’d expect it with the money they have spent ffs…and they’re at home..

    Howay lads…stick in there…

  90. 90
    Newkie says:

    Oh its Ba :???:

  91. 91
    toonsy says:

    Dave :lol:

  92. 92
    CC says:

    thank fook for that

  93. 93
    Munich Mag says:

    oh oh Shola warming up…

  94. 94
    Big Dave says:

    Stu @ 48 :lol: stick to your day job

  95. 95
    Johno Toon says:

    How is young sammy getting on?

  96. 96
    toonsy says:

    Ba will be fine. He’ll run that off :???:

  97. 97
    Stuart79 says:

    Ba will be off

  98. 98
    toonsy says:

    Yaya Toure is a machine :shock:

  99. 99
    Shamrock says:

    Nice to see the young lad confident enough to have a go at goal…

  100. 100
    HebburnMag says:

    I love Sammys confidence but should of crossed that

  101. 101
    Big Dave says:

    Nice kicking from Hart :grin:

  102. 102
    MDS says:

    That Mancini looks like a right dandy, doesn’t he?

  103. 103
    Shamrock says:

    Good grief Yaya Toure is good. :shock:

  104. 104
    HebburnMag says:

    Saylor a love you

  105. 105
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy @ 98 all machines break down at some stage, maybe today his timing belt will go :lol:

  106. 106
    richietoon says:

    Bloodzeed link on here is more than good enough for fullscreen if ya have Sopcast http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

  107. 107
    HebburnMag says:

    krul to the rescue again

  108. 108
    CC says:

    great save

  109. 109
    SpencerTheToon says:

    What a save man!

  110. 110
    toonsy says:

    Well done Krul

  111. 111
    Johno Toon says:

    According to bbc City have had 74% of the possesion :shock: :sad:

  112. 112
    Big Dave says:

    well done Krul

  113. 113
    Jesmon Dean says:

    I swear it says S. Ameobi on Sammy’s shirt.. just in case we thought it was the other S .Ameobi… or is he now Washola?

  114. 114
    ron says:

    ben arfa made 1 flick on city reply with 4

  115. 115
    Whumpie says:

    Good lad, Krul. Why was Saylor on his way to earth? Must’ve been shoved.

  116. 116
    funkyjesus says:

    I can’t believe some people were thinking we’d get anything from this match.

    Even a draw is going to be a miracle pulled off by the sort of tactics we ranted about Big Sam using.

  117. 117
    Johno Toon says:

    Funky Jesus , its 32 mins gone , loads of time left , have some faith

  118. 118
    SpencerTheToon says:

    heart rate gan though the roof

  119. 119
    Big Dave says:

    oh close there :grin:

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    toonsy says:

    Fucking brilliant play that

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    Shamrock says:

    Oh lordie lordie lordie, though Benny was gona smash that home Great play.

  123. 123
    HebburnMag says:

    BENNY!!!! Why didn’t you shoot a was already waiting for FunkyJesus to eat his words

  124. 124
    MDS says:

    And that my friends is what Ben Arfa can do with a little space

  125. 125
    toonsy says:

    FJ – Piss off man. Shouldn’t you fuckers be chanting about bombing and terrorism or some such?

  126. 126
    Munich Mag says:

    Not sure if my old jam tart can handle this :roll:

    Oh man…Demba should have scored there…best chance of the game, and brilliant play by HBA…

  127. 127
    JJ says:

    Would have fancied Ba to bury that 90% of the time. Best chance of the game.

  128. 128
    toonsy says:

    I swear I just saw a tent in Raylor’s pants when the ref blew for that free kick :lol:

  129. 129
    Shamrock says:

    Doing well so far.

  130. 130
    Venison says:

    Any links that play on iPad? Most need flash….

  131. 131
    JJ says:

    Great spell of football for us.

  132. 132
    Shamrock says:

    In terms of chances so far, it’s about 50-50 :shock:

  133. 133
    toonsy says:

    That was a chance for Ba.Should have done better. Free header

  134. 134
    CC says:

    another chance were starting to get into this

  135. 135
    Big Dave says:

    Benny has been putting a good shift in so far

  136. 136
    Munich Mag says:

    We’ve had the two best chances so far…..Demba Ba could have had 2….howay lads…..

    Have a feeling that young Sammy might come good today, cutting in from the right wing…

  137. 137
    funkyjesus says:

    Yes, because all Celtic fans and Catholics do that.

    Nice bit of prejudice there, will do this blog’s image a lot of good if it gets about.

  138. 138
    Big Dave says:

    Come on Lads keep going we can do it

  139. 139
    toonsy says:

    FJ – Tell someone who gives a shit pal. If you spout shite, such as writing us off after 32 minutes when we’re at 0-0, you must expect it back. Don’t be a fanny.

    Beisdes.Last time I checked Celtic had been charged on two counts of it? UEFA must also be prejudice…

    Penalty. I guess FJ is happy now

  140. 140
    HebburnMag says:

    FUCK CUNT SHIT!!!!

  141. 141
    Newkie says:

    ryan taylor you fucking muppet

  142. 142
    Shamrock says:

    Hmm blatant cock up there by Raylor :evil:

  143. 143
    toonsy says:

    Happy now FJ?

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    HebburnMag says:

    Balotelli is a twat

  146. 146
    toonsy says:

    Just when we were staring to get into it :(

  147. 147
    JJ says:

    Decent performance but we need to take those chances. It’s going to cost us.
    Pathetic hand ball from Raylor. Instead of extending himself to block it he should have closed Balotelli down. Had loads of time.
    Terrible time to concede.
    Can see that opening the floodgate unfortunately :|

  148. 148
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Fuck off having a go at raylor, hes won us at least 6 points this season you tossers

  149. 149
    ron says:

    wow balotelli is a cunt

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    Munich Mag says:

    Man is Balotelli a grade one pric**

  151. 151
    Shamrock says:

    Spencer, all I said was blatant cock up. Which it was.

  152. 152
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Game over :roll:

  153. 153
    HebburnMag says:

    What is Raylor doing!!!!

  154. 154
    JJ says:

    Raylor having a nightmare.

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    Big Dave says:

    Hebburnmag aye but he is a skillful twat.
    ah well get in at 1-0 halftime and we will comeout on fire in the 2nd half

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    funkyjesus says:

    lol

  158. 158
    Newkie says:

    Spencer-he’s a great asset, but he’s not a defender as i’ve said all season. goth goals effectively his fault.

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    Shamrock says:

    And then he cocks up again for goal number 2.

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    Newkie says:

    both*

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    hitman says:

    get raylor off and put santon on 2nd half

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    toonsy says:

    That should be Raylor out of the team then.

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    Toon@Jer says:

    davide santon in next anyone?

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    SJP14 says:

    Well at least we showed in the first 40 minutes that we’re a decent side but now it’s 2-0 it’s over.

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    toonsy says:

    With every goal we concede FJ grows more happy. Fucking prick.

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    A couple of mistakes in a game we we’re very unlikely to get anything out of and everyone is jumping on his back :roll:

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    HebburnMag says:

    You were sayin big dave?? ha He is an amazing player like

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    King Arfa says:

    Raylor is playing shite today. Take him off! :evil:

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    Munich Mag says:

    Spencer@148…wtf has that to do with a handball today ? Poor defending by Raylor…pity really, cos we had wethered the storm imo..

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    richietoon says:

    Don’t worry, I’ve got us 2-2 in the predictor league ;-)

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    toonsy says:

    1-0 at HT and there is a way back, unlikely, but still a way back. At 2-0 it’s damage limitation

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    Ben arfa is starting to look class, just played with Lescott then :lol:

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    HebburnMag says:

    Cabaye is missing Titote…. needs a proper partner in crime

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    Munich Mag says:

    Sorry like, but that was more absolutely gash defending from Raylor…Both goals are down to him today…

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    MM- everyone is jumping on his back, everyone has a bad game, unfortunately raylor is having his today.

    If you ask me, Cabaye isn’t exactly impressing, nee one is jumping on his back.

  178. 178
    SJP14 says:

    I agree Toonsy. We were showing in the last 10 before the goal that we could grab a goal with Ben Arfa linking with Ba but now we have to push forward and leave ourselves exposed.

    Question is would you prefer them to try and get stuffed 5-1 or give up and try to only lose 2-0

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    Micky Toon says:

    Pardew out! :roll: ;-)

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    Stuart79 says:

    toonsy – I know you’re taking the piss but he should be replaced at half time as when it’s not your day, it’s not your day, and it certainly isn’t his day/

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    Shamrock says:

    That was a good performance and we could have been in the lead. Then Raylor lost his mind. Like I said in the preview, our defence is OK, but they cant be trusted not to implode under pressure. Only Colo is trustworthy in that sense.

    Not holding it against the lad though, this is Citeh away. Nothing like this sort of fixture to sniff out our weaknesses though and show us where we need to invest. Benny is having a good game. I’m glad for him. :smile:

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    King Arfa says:

    Our main problem is we aren’t closing city down enough, we are giving them too much space. No wonder it was something like 25% possession in the first half. Raylor needs to come off and Santon on.

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    Newkie says:

    Spencer-I agree, its funny to hear the voices turn, but I’ve been saying Jonas does most of raylors defensive work. People wanted to ship out simpson because he was a dodgy defender-really? Its not that I don’t like raylor or that I aint grateful for his free kicks, but he’s not a left back.

    However on the other side, people will now be screaming for him to be sold, I don’t see what people can expect from him, or Simmo, considering how cheap we got the both of them. Keep em, get some quality in January.

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    Micky Toon says:

    Needed to take those two chances we had. Knew they would haunt us.
    I blame perch.
    Pardew out.

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    Wellington says:

    I don’t think the second was all Taylor’s fault. Jonas has not been tracking Richards (his man, right?) particularly well.

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    NorthernPaul says:

    Remember Arsenal? We need that attitude today, I just hope we don’t roll over for them now. Apart from the goals we’ve done okay and should have scored ourselves. I hope Pards goes for this in the 2nd half and makes a game of it.

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    DJG says:

    Had Ba found the corner of the net I think it would have been different. In games like this there is usually one chance before it goes tits up.

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    toonsy says:

    Spencer – A couple of costly mistakes. Sorry, but that should be the price he pays. We have a player waiting for him to cock up. That player is Santon who should be getting his chance.

    There is a reason why EVERY team attacks our left side you know. A couple of goals does not hide three years of nothing.

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    JJ says:

    Feel sorry for Raylor, but he has got away with.it in others games. These.players have too much quality.and punish defensive errors. Raylor is great going forward, very average defensively. Simpson is the opposite.

    Toonsy,
    Damage limitation… Na, I rate we give it a go. 2-0 or 5-0 a loss is a loss.

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    MDS says:

    Well, I guess we’ve got an answer to the “how do we introduce Santon” question…

    Shame as we were just starting to give them a bit to think about on the counter.

    Get one early and we can still threaten them

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    Big Dave says:

    Richie @ 171 same here mate.
    I would seriously think about taking Raylor of as I think he will drop his head, so it might be rough on him but he would spend the 2nd half dwelling on the 1st half and trying not to cock up again instead of concentrating on what he needs to do.
    ye gotta be gruel to be kind :grin:

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    1892 says:

    Like to say thanks to raylor for all the hard work he’s put in this season but if any game he was going to be found out it was going to be this

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    Munich Mag says:

    SpencerTheToon….sorry mate, have to tell it like it is. Raylor is way out of his depth today. Sorry you don’t like to hear it and I commend you defending him, but it’s a fact bud.

    We were under the cosh a bit, but I felt quite confident. 2 bad mistakes and the game is toast… :cry: :cry:

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    Stuart79 says:

    Oh well maybe you weren’t taking the piss, toonsy.

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    toonsy says:

    Stu – Not taking the piss mate. Raylor is having a mare and should come off.

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    Axel says:

    Its going to need a comeback to match the one against Arsenal second half

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    If we lose now thanks to Raylor I’m not gonna be happy being £90 out of pocket with SkyBet!!

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    DJG says:

    Funny how ppl were saying why this was the ‘wrong game to play Ben Arfa’.

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    toonsy says:

    The pisser is that those goals came at completely the wrong time :cry:

    FJ – Sorry for being a dick. Virtual handshake?

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    Spencer, your defending of Raylor is more impressive than Raylor’s defensive display today!

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    richietoon says:

    Raylor fecked up for both goals, he’ll get stick for it and deserve it. Even if he’d scored the winner in every other game this season it would be irrelevant, he’d still get and deserve stick for his 1st half performance.

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    Big Dave says:

    Spence Lad you know how I feel about Raylor mate but I think we have a better LB on the bench :???:

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    mark says:

    plenty of time yet lads, let Pards have one of his famous half time talks, :grin: 2 mistakes 2 goals. we could of easily scored 2 (ba for both).

    If we don’t lose our heads we might still have a chance for a result.

    tidy performance considering we’re missing a few players

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    King Arfa says:

    That prick Silva is still to come on the second half… I fear this is going to be a drubbing.

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    1892 says:

    DJG might aswell play him these next three games he’ll be doing a lot of running and get up to speed

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    DanishToon says:

    Hope Pards Has something up his Sleeve..

    Think we should go all in and attack from the start… :razz:

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    hitman says:

    it should have been 0-0 at half time,2 piss poor mistakes has cost us

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    toonsy says:

    DJG – Me being one of them, what has Ben Arfa done that was extra special? Not saying he’s played poorly, he’s done what is expected of him, but he’s also done nothing to dust off the “I told you so’s”.

    Premier League player completes a few passes shocker :shock:

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Ben Arfa has been good. Really good in fact. He HAS to start from now on. Santon will be in the next game hopefully, but I doubt it. Raylor has had a shocking last minutes, but hasn’t played that bad overall. Feel sorry for him, but he isn’t a left back and we just need an excuse to drop him. This is it.

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    So shall we drop Ba for missing that chance?

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    JJ says:

    Hebburnmag

    I actually think Guthrie has been one of our better players.

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    Big Dave says:

    I hope Citeh come out thinking its all over :grin:

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    mark says:

    you can’t be too critical on Raylor. 1st one was silly 2nd he was caught off balance. for a midfielder playing leftback hes done superb this season. a couple of mistakes dont warrant him being dropped or called..

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    Stuart79 says:

    DanishToon says:
    November 19, 2011 at 15:57
    Hope Pards Has something up his Sleeve..
    Think we should go all in and attack from the start…

    It’ll have to be a fcking time machine!

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    Johno Toon says:

    SpencerTheToon says:
    November 19, 2011 at 15:58
    So shall we drop Ba for missing that chance?

    Now that you mention it , Yes we should ;-)

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    Big Dave says:

    Spence calm down son, Ba missed a goal yeah, but he didn’t cost us 1.

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    Axel says:

    Shola on for the 2nd half anyone? lets face it HBA has done very little so far

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    toonsy says:

    Spence – So your justification for keeping a player on who has been directly responsible for us being two goals downs is to argue that Ba should come off as he missed a chance?

    By your other reasoning, Ba has earned up six points at least, and for that you want to stick with Raylor, so why not Ba?

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    CC says:

    Toonsy

    Theres passes and then theres passes the reverse ball to Ba was something that none of the others would have tried, There was a few incidents in the everton match where gosling and best had time to play ba in when he was on the last man and overran the ball, He will see and try things that will open up teams.

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    toonsy says:

    I bet .org are penning “Pardew out” articles as we speak :lol:

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    HebburnMag says:

    JJ I agree mabye is with had Tiote to play 3 big lads in the middle

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    Big Dave says:

    Mark he has done himsel proud this season, but he isn’t a LB and we have a LB on the bench, and we are losing Jonas as an attacker because of it

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    It was sarcasm toonsy, I think they should both stay on, that is why i put a question mark

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    Johno Toon says:

    No shame if we are beating here at all ,Look Raylor has played very well so far this season but has pointed above he is a right winger playing left back. Only a matter of time before he was found out. And that is not trying to have a dig at him for no reason but I dont think he is up to scratch for where we want to go. Now go on son and hit in 2 free kicks and set up the winner for Ba :lol:

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    Alex the King says:

    All out attack 2nd half! Nothin to lose!

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    JJ says:

    Mark

    Raylor isn’t a midfielder. He says he’s a right back. At Wigan he played left back a lot. He was bought as a fullback.

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    mark says:

    @bigDave I believe he IS a left back now. Simpson is a right back but looks just as comfortable as Raylor imo

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    mark says:

    was never a decent fullback in my eyes. I’m sure he played in midfield a few times for wigan.(cud be wrong tho) Hes a decent leftback now tho

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    Big Dave says:

    Mark as I said we lose Jonas to have Raylor. Simpson doesn’t always have the winger infront of him doing 50% of his work

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    Stuart79 says:

    Ben Arfa does look very good on the ball.

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    Big Dave says:

    that was a sloppy ball from Krul :cry:

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    Big Dave says:

    Richards is a powerful unit :shock:

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    HebburnMag says:

    Good tackle Colo very confident

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    batty says:

    some fckin people should realy give there heads a shake ,pricks

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    toonsy says:

    Should that not have been a free kick on Cabaye like?

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    toonsy says:

    Batty?

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    JJ says:

    Cabaye is everywhere, he’s gonna be knackered around the 60 minute mark.

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    King Arfa says:

    It doesn’t look like we are going to score. Ba has been quiet second half so far.

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    Big Dave says:

    Really impressed with Benny

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    Big Dave says:

    well done Saylor ;-)

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    Shamrock says:

    They really are an excellent side these days. I have to say, apart from the double horror show by Raylor – our boys have done pretty well today. I have nothing to suggest we cant compete with the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal for 6th spot if we get a couple of decent signings in this January and dont lose anybody significant…

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    Johno Toon says:

    Wouldnt say so , think Cabaye is running like 15km a game most games.

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    CC says:

    If we can nick one from a set piece it would be interesting

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    Stuart79 says:

    Whatever happens I think I’ve seen enough to suggest we’ll do ok and 7th is a good target,

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    Big Dave says:

    we get a goal and citeh will sh1t themselfs

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    HebburnMag says:

    FUCK SAKE ….. Has our luck run out already

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    Whumpie says:

    Oh, FFS!! How close?? Great save though.

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    JJ says:

    Just not our day…

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    King Arfa says:

    OMG… Benny!

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    batty says:

    toonsy people slagging players after what they have done this season ,arseoles

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    It’s just not our day

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    Venison says:

    Shame for Benny there….

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    Stuart79 says:

    Deary me!

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    MDS says:

    DAMN IT!!!!

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    toonsy says:

    Well at least we’re trying to get back into it. Fair play. Dangerous game though.

    Once again showing spirit. Well done lads!

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    Big Dave says:

    Stu your spot on, and its no shame to be trailing to citeh

    Oh Benny close Lad

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    JJ says:

    We’ve actually created by far the better chances in this game. Should be at least 2-2.

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    Stuart79 says:

    We did this in the first half, played well for a spell then they hit us for two!

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    Newkie says:

    great work simmo

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    mark says:

    come on!!! plenty in this. cant keep missing those kind of chances.

    Benny has pedros boots on 2day :)

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    HebburnMag says:

    Have faith lads….. even if we lose the boys have still tried what more can we ask

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    Big Dave says:

    well done Krul again

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    mark says:

    @batty hear hear

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    AngelOfDeath says:

    if this game ended 2-0 due to two individual errors,i will be disappointed. :cry:

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    batty says:

    aye stu no shame seeing they did man u 6 1 in there own back yard

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    Stuart79 says:

    Sorry but Taylor is having a mare.

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    JJ says:

    Simpson is a terrific look footballer but just lacks the football brain to be really international class.

    Batty,
    Is it not fair to say if a player is havig a poor game. Unfortunately for Raylor he should come off this game.

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    toonsy says:

    Fecking inches away from that rebound

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    MDS says:

    Damn it again!!!

    We haven’t been this unlucky since last year.

    We’re really holding our own now

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    Stuart79 says:

    Jesus Christ! How have we not scored in this game?

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    mark says:

    are we at St James this half :razz:

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    Big Dave says:

    oh fuk we have had a few good chances so far :???:

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    toonsy says:

    Batty – But is it not fair to say that a certain player has had a shocker? Otherwise we may aswell just have 14 players and that’s it. This is why we have a squad :)

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    JJ says:

    If you look at legitimate chances, and considering we are the away team against the odds on title favourites. We have done ourselves very proud.
    Individual errors apart.
    Would like on goal as a morale booster though.

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    King Arfa says:

    Here comes on the prick.

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Silva, great :roll:

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    Shamrock says:

    Uh Oh

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    Big Dave says:

    :shock: is that silva :???:

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    CC says:

    If we score they will be shitting

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    mark says:

    if it wasnt for those two errors we cud be winning this :sad:

    Silva :sad:

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    ron says:

    lets bring our silva..ALAN SMITH

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    CC says:

    For fcuks sake

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    Shamrock says:

    Soft as any I have ever seen.

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    JJ says:

    My word, Benny shouldn’t be in our penalty box. Very clumsy :sad:

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    BEN ARFA OFF! GIVING AWAY A GOAL!!! HOW DARE HE!

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    Stuart79 says:

    Another stone wall penatly – we’ve not helped ourselves here.

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    toonsy says:

    It doesn’t deserve to be 3-0

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    Venison says:

    No shame in this, surely there would be something wrong if a team who had this amount of dosh spent on it didn’t win more or less every game and thrashed Man U in the process. We need to get changes made to avoid conceding further and give ourselves chances to pull a consolation back….oh shit….game over now

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    mark says:

    ben arfa is no right back :sad:

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    HebburnMag says:

    Thats it….. sorry to be so dark but lets hope it stays 3-0 and we divint get embarassed like manure

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Why so many idiotic mistakes today? Ridiculous. We have been poor at both ends today. It’s a shame because everything we have done up to now will be discredited now, when it truth we have been value for at least a couple of goals.

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    Big Dave says:

    Richards went down like a big fuking girl there

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    toonsy says:

    Spencer – The bigger question should be, where was Raylor? Jonas got skinned at left-back, Ben Arfa covered, so where was your hero?

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    King Arfa says:

    Fkin manc basterds… money grabbing punks. Wait til that arab sheik fks off and then we’ll see how they get on.

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    The bigger question is why wasn’t jonas watching when silva made a run into space for the throwing?

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    Shamrock says:

    Ah well, we normally concede 3 at City… The lads have actually looked pretty good today, just silly individual mistakes costing is along with below par finishing. On another day it could have been a very different story. No shame in this performance as a team that’s for sure. The scoreline is misleading, but it shows the difference in class.

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    mark says:

    still only a loss, just 3 points. a few errors but we have played well (up2now)

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    MDS says:

    Fucking dive it looked to me…

    We needed a bit of luck today and instead got the wrong kind by the ton

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    toonsy says:

    Spencer – So where was our left-back if he wasn’t at left-back when the whole team was defending?

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    Big Dave says:

    Lovens on for Jonas :shock: Raylor will have his work cut out for him

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    JJ says:

    Can’t believe Pardew isn’t taking Raylor off. His confidence is gone.

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    R.Taylor has been woeful. Don’t normally get dropped for one bad game, but he has had a total shocker.

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    mark says:

    wow looks like Raylor is turd of the week again.. shame

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Well done Sammi. Think he has played well against such good players.

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    toonsy says:

    Raylor on for the full 90 :shock:

    Against Johnson and Richards :???:

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    Big Dave says:

    Lads whats with all the fighting we are getting beat by one of the best and richest teams in the world :roll: it’s no shame and doesn’t take away from the fact that we have had an unbelievable season so far.
    COME ON LADS WE ARE UNITED ;-)

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    HebburnMag says:

    Raylor has had a nightmare game cannit even pass a ball today lets hope he bounces back next week

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    mark says:

    @Big Dave

    well said m8

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    Big Dave says:

    JJ @ 307 thats maybe why he isn’t taking him off, maybe taking him off will make it 10 times worse in the longterm, this game is gone now

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    JJ says:

    Dave

    I prefered Mel Gibsons speech in Braveheart. But not bad ;-)

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    hitman says:

    fkin gifted them 3 goals..

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    Big Dave says:

    did they just say that was a record attendance :?:

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    Venison says:

    Big Dave agree entirely. Why are people disappointed that we lose here at the one place we really couldn’t expect anything else realistically?

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    JJ says:

    Dave I would have given Santon some time and started Raylor in the next game. If he has other poor one Santon comes in.

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    toonsy says:

    Well we done better that Man Utd :mrgreen:

    Paid for individual mistakes unfortunately. Although on balance of play we deserved to lose but there is no shame in that. We had eough good chances to make it a different game on a different day and I’ve seen enough to not be concerned about this .

    HWTL :)

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    Big Dave says:

    would love to get a goal just for moral

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    CC says:

    I would gladly ram a very rusty blunt screwdriver between this jock twat commentators eyes…

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    King Arfa says:

    Here comes on the most overrated player in the premier league.

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    HebburnMag says:

    Why Perch why not Smith

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    SJP14 says:

    Got to agree with Dave, we played pretty well and got beat by a team that stuffed Man U 6-1. So what? I thought we’d lose and we did. No shame there. It was always likely with the pressure of defending for 90 that we’d concede after a silly mistake it just happened to be Raylor.

    Having said that I think Santon deserves a chance.

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    Big Dave says:

    maybe Perch will get some revenge for us :lol:

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    As an overall performance we can hold our heads up high. However, too many individual errors and wastefulness in front of goal.

    Good things from the game. Hopefully it is the start of Santon and Ben Arfa in the starting 11…

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    CC says:

    Perch on the fightback starts here… :roll:

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    Micky Toon says:

    Dave it is. They’ve only come to watch us. Apparently all the seats and corporate boxes are full for the first time today.

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    SJP14 says:

    Does Pardew not rate Santon? Or is he trying to make a point to the board about needing to invest in the squad? Why Perch? Why?

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    Big Dave says:

    I think Saylor has fuked his nose up again :???: thats the spirit I love to see, you wouldn’t have got that from Nolan the fat Bastad :lol:

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    Micky Toon says:

    Cc not sue why the roll eyes. Our squad is woeful next to theirs

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    CC says:

    Yay gosling

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    Shamrock says:

    Good lads :smile:

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    HebburnMag says:

    Well done boys never say never gotta love this team !!!

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    hitman says:

    go on the gozzy

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    toonsy says:

    Cracking through ball by Perch there.

    Hatem who? :lol: :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    Get in Gosling lad that will do the job and stop them whit washing us

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    Venison says:

    Well done Dan, son. Perch hat trick coming up…..

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Well done lads!

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    HebburnMag says:

    Watch time wasting not be picked up from the ref here

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    Big Dave says:

    Ba went in there like a fuking steam train :)

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    Big Dave says:

    Come on Lads we can get a point here :lol:

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    Micky Toon says:

    Get in.

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    Big Dave says:

    47 408 is there record attendance :shock: fuking glory hunters

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    HebburnMag says:

    47,408 biggest attendance so far money can buy you players, but not fans

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    Micky Toon says:

    We never give up. Love it just love it.

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    Shamrock says:

    Well couple of stupid mistakes, but overall a very good account has been given by the Toon against an extremely good side away from home. Very promising for the rest of the season :grin:

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    Big Dave says:

    well thats that game outta the way and no shame in that.

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    Micky Toon says:

    Still a bEtter result than manure

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    CC says:

    good effort, Unlucky to come away with nowt

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    ToonTom says:

    Thanks for the links as always guys…..a decent performance…..many teams wil get a hiding there this yr!

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    Big Dave says:

    42 goals citeh have scored so far :shock:

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    Micky Toon says:

    Seriously, who would have thought this far into the season and only lost 1 and to the strongest team in the league. No shame here.

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    HebburnMag says:

    If Benny scored that goal that hit the post the out come would of been totally different

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    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    1-1 in the second half and we really should have had AT LEAST one more goal. It’s a shame, but I hope the press give the credit we deserve.

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    mark says:

    @big dave 3 goals per game ratio last time I read.

    No shame in losing (be it a few mistakes) to the new prem Champs imo.

    and we had players missing..
    well done lads. roll on ManU :)

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    Micky Toon says:

    Like I said, got to bury your chances. We didn’t simple as that.

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    Nobby says:

    well done to the lads, a couple of daft mistakes to give penalties away but let’s face it…. the class that man city is in is unbelievable.

    micah richards in and unbelievable RB.

    Silver lining? Dand goslings goal means we’ve still got joint best defensive record…. get in!!!!

    bring on manure, if we play with that heart i fancy something from that game :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    steverd says:

    thought we deser ateast another goal. Ben Arfa looked good, but I thought we were missing Oberton. I’m probably the only one who thinks that last point though

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    DevonMag says:

    Couldn’t be prouder of the lads. What a run we’ve been on. Sloppy mistakes today but our luck was bound to run out some time. I say we meet United with a full head of steam and nick all three points next week. HWTL

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    richietoon says:

    Our goal apart we never created a single goal scoring chance………that’s how MOTD will show it anyway :???: :lol:

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    DJG says:

    Come on man get off Ryan’s back, we arn’t gonna play Man City every week some ppl need to hit their head off a wall. This is what happens when your owner sells the only LB in the squad, is that Ryans fault? the lad just wants a game.

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    1892 says:

    Good performance from the lads we’ll play worse than that and win this season. Hope we keep it up for the manure game and cut out the mistake s and we could get a draw at manure.

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    MDS says:

    Can’t say I’m disappointed in the slightest with the lads. Horrible luck and a 3-1 loss to Barca North on the road. Heads held high

    2 pens (one questionable), a Raylor mistake, and at least 4 great chances for us, 2 of which would normally have gone in. Very pleased with the way we kept fighting which is becoming a hallmark under Pards…

    A lot of players played well today. Sammy proved he belongs and Ben Arfa showed his ability to create something out of nothing which will serve us well moving forward. Though Staylor/Collo were outstanding again. Happy for Gosling as well.

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    M says:

    re Raylor – he lost his head after that howler for 2-0. A concern going into next week

    Overall though – decent shift from the lads, couldve been very different if Ba had’ve scored at 0-0……

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    DJG says:

    Roll on Man U and cheers for the fixtures PL you always manage it ;-)

    Can you imagine a team getting Inter Milan away then AC Milan away? Neither can I.

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    M says:

    oh yeah, and benny is back – get in there

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    NorthernPaul says:

    I thought we played well, probably didn’t deserve anything but that was our own fault

    I hope we get the credit we deserve in the press as we weren’t hammered today, and could have scored a few ourselves. Not many teams will play as well away to City this season so we can’t be unhappy with it really.

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    Simon says:

    Only got to hear and second half and see from 60 mins, but hey, we can’t complain, no matter how they got there, Man City are a different class. At least we didn’t give up and got that goal back toward the end. Only saw the 2nd pen and a silly mistake to make. but we have only lost 1 game this seaon and against a class team. Lets bounce back next week

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    icedog says:

    well ime not down hearted,we gifted them two we missed two thats your luck sometimes had the bonus of benny getting a good run out although he should have put that one away,it will come good again imo.

    hwtl

    not going to say dave got it wrong and toonsy got it right :grin:

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    toonsy says:

    M – In contrast I though Raylor did well after his cock ups in the first half and came back strongly.

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    Michael12 says:

    Demba ba in the first half should have scored, Ben Arfa in the second half should have scored, Gosling did get a goal. To be beaten by 2 penalties which in truth flattered the scoreline in city’s favor is not the worst result.

    I declare myself proud of the team. You do not win the league by beating city but by beating the Boltons, Everton, and Westbroms of this world.

    My assessment from the game suggests we lacked in the midfield battle. Had Tiote been able I think we might not have lacked so much so as we did. Ba upfront alone was a bad tactic if I am to be critical. The style and formation we played today needed a big centre forward i.e. Shola not Ba.

    All in all, great start to the season and may we navigate our way through the next two fixtures with at least 4 points at the end I would be happy.

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    DJG says:

    ‘Some have been pleasantly suprised by Newcastles start’

    Not you though Lawro and I’m sure you are thrilled by today. Ya silly bugger.

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    toonsy says:

    What was that about getting some credit? From the Daily mail…..

    “Manchester City sauntered to an effortless win over previously unbeaten Newcastle United at the Etihad Stadium.”

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    wolfie says:

    Well yer bugger, we gave them a fright with the chances we had and on another day we could easily have won that.
    The referee decided the game (not unfairly I might add) but unfortunately playing away against the top club isn’t gonna get you any spoils in the penalty box when the odds are stacked against you.
    So 2 penalties , one which was nailed on and the only reason Ryan Taylor stayed on the pitch was because his arms were flailing in the first place… Had he outstretched his arm as the ball came in, he would have been off.

    Second penalty if it was at ST James’ wouldn’t have been given 99% of the time but unfortunately it happened at City , so fair do’s.

    The mistake by Raylor for their second goal was down to lack of urgency in getting to the ball and instead waiting for it and believing he was in control…let’s call this a lesson is lacklustre play.

    Over all, ManCity had us chasing shadows at times but we gave them far too much respect in the first half but the second half was far better.

    Defensively Colo Saylor were immense once again.

    There were plenty of positives to take from this game and a lot of stuff that we can learn from but the scoreline flattered them to be fair, in my opinion.

    All in all , we weren’t expected to get anything and most outsiders would have had us drubbed, so let’s move on to the next game.

    I’m gutted but at least we gave them a fight in their own back yard.

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    mark says:

    ppl were quick to shoot Raylor. not good for his confidence if Pards hauled him off straight away..

    on another note, see Sunderland drew another home game. Stoke are looking pap also, thought they would of had a better season up2now

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    steverd says:

    Michael12: I think most fans will be happy if we get 1or2 points from the next two games

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    Toby le Rhone says:

    That is the hardest game we have to play all season out the way let’s hope the two games on sunday and monday end in draws and we will be consolidating a top six place

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    toonsy says:

    Paul Merson being nice about us :shock:

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    Premandup says:

    Heart on sleeve stuff, nearly matched them for chances. They look a class outfit. Can’t complain about the pens . If Taylor is being called for the part in his pen will we hear the same for Ben Arfa, thought not.

    Credit to AP. Could have taken Raylor off at half time but encoured him, gave him the 2nd half to demonstrate what he had learned. Raylor took his chance and played better in the 2nd half. Unlikely to be dropped next week.

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    steverd says:

    Toonsy: you should have let merson finish what he was saying

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    wolfie says:

    We all knew we weren’t gonna go the season unbeaten and something had to give and in a way we have lost the points to a team we weren’t gonna catch anyway at their ground.
    The saving grace is that we haven’t picked up any fresh injuries and also our other walking wounded have another week to heal giving us a few more options.
    I don’t think any fan should pick out Raylor for special treatment as all players make these mistakes (S,Taylor) springs to mind previously.
    Colo made them until his transition into world superstar, well ok our world super star lol.
    Point is, the team gave effort and commitment to the cause and were guilty of maybe giving a little too much respect.

    This might sound daft but I don;t feel no-where near as gutted as I thought but I would have been crying in my pillow if this defeat was against Wigan or the likes.
    Anyone feel the same ?

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    DJG says:

    Man U have got to play Benfica on Tue as well. Man City put 6 past them so why shouldn’t we get something? At least the mackems didn’t win.

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    Toby le Rhone says:

    Pardew interviews well on Sky. Sensible not over reacting. Move on the next saturday get Tiote back and onwards and upwards

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    M says:

    watch it back Toonsy – he looked lost from that point on. Could hardly find a teammate with a pass, unsure in the challenge…. hope he can shake it off for next week

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    GeordieTwo says:

    I’ve said it on here before and I’ll say it again. Raylor is not good enough defensively and never has been. Jonas has to spend the entire game tracking back and that unbalances the team. Raylor turned the ball over every time he tried to make a pass with his left foot. Why buy Santon for 5 M and then not play him at all, not even a few minutes at the end of games? If Perch is good enough to bring on for a few minutes then surely Santon is? Now we will have the same problem against Man City and Chelsea and still Santon has had no playing time. I thought the second half showed the spirit of the team well as we didn’t knuckle under at all. The bench looked extremely weak for us with Smith, Perch, and Peter. Our lack of quality depth is being exposed now. God help us if either Colo or Saylor go down with an injury.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Sorry that should have said ManU and Chelsea.

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    The 59 sound says:

    Aint too bothered about losing that. Played ok second half. What did we expect to get from the game.

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    DJG says:

    ‘Why buy Santon for 5 M and then not play him at all’

    Er. maybe he’s been shite in training. ;-)

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    GeordieTwo says:

    I don’t mind losing to them, they are a class side. But we are not developing Santon at all. What is he in England for, to work on his tan? This is ridiculous. He must be extremely disappointed, not getting any minutes at all. If Sammy Ameobi can start the match, why not bring Santon on for 20 minutes? The game was lost by then anyway. I don’t understand the thinking here at all.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    I worry for us if he has been terrible in training DJG. Raylor will never be good enough at left back. Good teams will expose him over and over again as they did today even with Jonas trying to play his position for him half the time.

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    Mango Cream says:

    My gravatar should apear

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    Mango Cream says:

    Yey

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    Good effort from all the lads today feel sorry for Raylor, looks like he is scape goat number 1 again. People seem to forget City’s attack can make any defender in the world look silly.

    On a positive note Ben Arfa was immense today, our best player by far and unlucky not to score. I wonder if Pardew will change the team, now it is no longer a winning team.

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    Mango Cream says:

    I guesses a 5-1 defeat So yeh

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    wolfie says:

    Geordietwo…

    The same Raylor has been ever present in a team that’s just went 11 games unbeaten.
    He has single handedly gained us valuable points.
    He gets helped out by Jonas because it’s a team game and that’s what happens, take a look at any team and look at their left back or right back , the look at how the left mid and right mid track back to help out.
    Anyone who makes Raylor a scapegoat for a game which went against him is being petty to be fair.

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    @GeordieTwo

    You dont understand the thinking of not bringing another defender on when we are chasing the game? Its pretty simple imo

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    DJG says:

    GeordieTwo If Santon was this class act international he would have had a chance before now and today he would have got on ahead of Sammy. He obviously isn’t up to speed at all. The thing is, the manager sees these players every day and we see them every week, or in this case every 2 weeks and Santon isn’t as good as Taylor, Simpson and Ameobi if he isn’t getting picked. So whats going on. Pardew obviously doesn’t rate him. Benny forced his way into the side today Santon obviously isn’t doing that.

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    Oblong says:

    Proud of the lads again today. Good effort but I do feel we gave the ball away far too easily 1st half and tried to lump the ball up from the back to front far too much.

    Out played at times but certainly not out classed. We could have had a few more goals if we had taken our chances, as could they. Raylor lost his head after the 1st pen (would that have been given against the home team?) but came back well second half!

    I think we missed Best today – Didn’t think I would be saying that at the start of the season!

    Bring on Man U!!!!

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Sorry to disagree Wolfie. I realize Raylor has provided a couple of game winning goals. I don’t see it as petty to want the team to improve. Tracking back is good for the team and Jonas is a great team player but the amount of defending he has to do for Raylor is ridiculous. We had a lot of luck in that unbeaten run especially with Raylor’s defending. If he remains our permanent left back I will be very surprised indeed, as will Santon I expect.

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    shottiesbru says:

    i watched the match on firstrow and the exposure and highlight of the play to man city was shameful, the toon chances were just brushed under the carpet and then i heard them say it was exhibition football by man city what bull

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    Mango Cream says:

    Hi does anyone here collect match attax 11/12

    SQUAD WHEN ALL FIT

    ………………………………………………KRUL………………………………………………………………….SANTON…………….COLLO……………SAYLOR…………SIMPSON
    ………………OBERTOON………..CABAYE………………TIOTE………………………
    ……………………………………………BENNY………………………………………………..
    …………………………..BA…………………………………SA AMEOBI OR BEST……
    d u agree???????

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    Max-T-million says:

    hey lads,
    I been reading some of the comments in the blog and i find is really ashamed of supporting NUFC. our fans want glory overnight. it aint happening so forget it and accept we played ok today against the best attacking team in the world with barca and Real i guess. from my footballing knowledge and experience, we did show glimps of play that we can match anyone on our day. we did miss tiote who whould have been physical against big physical player and can hold the ball well. i dont want to blame raylor but he is human after all ( let him play if he fks up at manure then bring in santos but what i feel is santos is not match fit or lacking confidence). the team we have assembled this season can beat any team except the big 3 or 4 in the world. but considering injuries we will struggle. So lets get in the good books of Asleeee and ask him to bring in defence cover and a single striker. well done lads and keep ur heads up and we are all proud of you. take it a step better and beat manure next weekend. long live NUFC

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    DJG says:

    N.Irish Toon

    November 19, 2011 at 17:49

    Good effort from all the lads today feel sorry for Raylor, looks like he is scape goat number 1 again. People seem to forget City’s attack can make any defender in the world look silly.

    Really senseable comment. Makes a welcome change, i’ll go back in my box now, night everyone.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Obviously the manager sees the team every day and has to make the decisions about who to play. I was never comfortable with Raylor taking over at left back however as I think many others weren’t either. If Santon has been poor in training I believe we are in for a world of hurt as Raylor just isn’t good enough defensively. N Irish Toon you actually think bringing on Perch showed that we were chasing the game? Pardew knew the game was over after their third goal and was just looking to rest Cabaye and give Gosling some playing time as well. Looking at the entire 12 game span I am just really surprised we haven’t seen more of Santon that’s all. Clearly Raylor will remain a bone of contention for many of us. Let’s see what people think after the ManU and Chelsea games.

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    wolfie says:

    Geordietwo..
    Raylor might not be world class but he’s got a great engine and does a lot more in games than he’s given credit for.
    Yes Jonas helps him out but that’s how it is in this team, each helps the other, it’s called team work ethics.
    Raylor is better than you think , it’s just that too many focus on the negatives of his game and forget the positives of his game.

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    Oblong says:

    @ GeordieTwo

    Raylor has played very very well this season and surpassed all expectations playing out of position.

    I think we were all sceptical about his ability playing at left back but he has been solid. Gutierrez covered for Enrique last season but he never got the same stick…..

    He has been an ever present in our unbeaten run and should start against Man U.

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    shottiesbru says:

    @ max t million i disagree today we gave man city 3 goals and missed or could have scored three ourselves but get no credit from the so called experts.I am proud and happy with how we play our approach and tactics, our effort and our organisation but im sick of our efforts being bypassed because we havent spent fortunes or are one of the holy top 4

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    GeordieTwo says:

    All in all a good team effort. I think we have a great team to support this year but to point out possible weaknesses is worth doing. I’m sure Pardew is thinking about what he saw today and praying Tiote is back soon. Cabaye definitely needs more support in the midfield even though Guthrie played a steady game and even forced Hart to make a save. Our best 11 would have given them a better game. Raylor is Pardew’s problem not mine and we’ll have to hope Santon starts playing better in training apparently. Time will tell but Raylor is a cheap option for Ashley so that is a big plus for him.

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    I dont get this fascination with the media. Who gives a fook if they give us credit, every sensable person knows that they are all a pack of c*nts anyway. Who cares what people think of us.

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    shottiesbru says:

    lets be honest they scored two pens and a munson by raylor not world class by any means

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Fair enough oblong I concede defeat on this one. Hopefully you, DJG, N. Irish Toon and others get your wish and Raylor starts every game for the rest of the season at left back. Interesting to see what Santon might think of that. To me we bragged and talked up Santon when he came to us. Now suddenly Raylor is so fantastic he is a permanent fixture. I think we will be discussing this one again before long. All the best. :lol:

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    toonsy says:

    Unsure whether it’s a rating problem with Santon. More a case of not changing a winning team. The exact reason why St Hatem had to wait until an injury allowed him in. Santon is in the same position. They didn’t spend £5 million on him for no reason.

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    toonsy says:

    Anyway,match report up now guys :)

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    shottiesbru says:

    @ n irish Well why have any audio when a game is on then if it isnt fair whats the point of it being there, its not about credability but honesty on what they are watching

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    Max-T-million says:

    shottiesbru- Remember we just got back to premier league 2years ago and have only bought players that can lift our team from 12th to top 10. We did not compete with ManC or Chelsk…. or any top teams. This goes to say we dont accept defeat. if you have ever played any sports then just take it in ur chin and move on. well done to manc to outplay us but the positives are there for all to see. as you said i was impressed as sometimes when we had the ball and playing the game where city struggled to over run us. i could pick names in our team that were below par. but in general am impressed… so i did expect us to loose so move on… stop calling our players crap and stuff. they gave it all.. thats the end of the story. lets look towards future and move on…

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    @GeordieTwo

    I dont get that last sentance? Are you saying Ashley is picking the team and picking it because he wants his low wage players to play? Surely Ashley will want his 5 million pound investment (santon) to play, so having Raylor play is hardly a big plus for him.

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    shottiesbru says:

    @ max t have u played football? I never called our players crap either, i just dont get all the accolades given to a team full of superstars that struggled to put us to the sword and in fairness could have been in trouble if our chances went in, and if u play sport u hate to get beat even more when you are the underdog and you are doing ok.

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    Oblong says:

    @ GeordieTwo

    We are all entitled to our opinions and we can’t all be right. I’m sorry I singled you out, your only voicing your opinion (even if i dont agree with it :lol: ).

    Its not a case of wanting Raylor to start every game, my point is that he has done very well and its a little harsh to call for him to be dropped after a few mistakes. If we had bought Pieters in the summer and he had done as well and he had played as well as Raylor, would we be calling for him to be dropped after a few mistakes?

    I can’t remember anyone wanting Enrique dropped last season but he made mistakes…. :|

    Personally I think Simpson is closer to loosing his place for Santon than Raylor.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Good point N. Irish Toon. I would just say that given choices to make Ashley will eventually always choose the cheaper option so it was far more likely he would keep Raylor than Jose for example and Santon was probably purchased to sell on. This would require him to play and play well however and since he isn’t getting any playing time that will be difficult. That’s why I suspect Santon will eventually get his playing time and Raylor will end up on the bench. Raylors real strengths are his shot and his long throw which are good to have in the squad. In the long run he is strictly a bench player though.

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    1892 says:

    max t million your football knowledge and experience is clearly w4nk if you think santon is called santos…sure you don’t support arsenal?

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    Oblong says:

    @ 1892

    I was thinking the same! Haha :roll: :lol:

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    GeordieTwo says:

    I thought Simpson played well today Oblong. The main problems somehow seemed to come from the left side of our defence. As for Pieters how can I say what would happen to him compared to Raylor? Pieters is a true left back who can use his left foot and I would love for us to have him. Of course all players make mistakes but I have watched every one of our games this year and to me Raylor is our worst player defensively. I don’t know how Jonas can stand playing in front of him (or actually behind him more often than not to cover his mistakes). Sorry to be negative about one of our players. As you say just and opinion and it won’t change anything. Look for changes to our lineup at left back some time this season though.

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    @GeordieTwo

    I agree with you Santon should get games but to drop Raylor who has been great this season would destroy his morale and i think would hurt the team aswell.

    Santon will get games i just think it will be a slow gradual introduction into the team.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Great discussion lads! It’s great to get back to the games. I’m sure this won’t be the last disagreement about players. ;-)

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    :roll: :lol: :lol: :roll:

    We will be fighting about Obertan next week :D il put money on it ;-)

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    shottiesbru says:

    Raylor made two big munsons today and in my opinion if pards was looking for a chance to give santon his start he could use it, but to me he kept faith in him for the second half and this suggests along with the comments he has made about santon that he doesnt feel he is ready for the prem yet

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    GeordieTwo says:

    Bad new for us then Shottiesbru. Prepare yourself for some more munsons! :lol:

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    Oblong says:

    @ GeordieTwo

    Well see its about opinions, I’ve seen all of our games this season as well and personally I think Simpson has been worse than Raylor. If you look back at some of our games look how many times Raylor has been the last man diving in making important blocks and challenges while Simpson was still backing off a player who passed him 5 minutes ago :lol:

    The point I was trying to make about Pieters was that being a proper left back (Like Enrique) his mistakes might not have been picked up on as much. To me it looks like people are looking out for Raylors mistakes more than others and making him a scapegoat.

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    N.Irish Toon says:

    Or prepare yourself for some more over the wall’s :D

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    GeordieTwo says:

    You could be right Oblong but I’ve felt this way about Raylor all along. When we didn’t bring Pieters in (owner too cheap as usual) I knew we would have trouble at that position. Raylor is strictly a fill-in for me. If Santon is playing poorly in practice we have a real problem developing there. I have seen Raylor make some good saving tackles but he can’t play with his left foot and he only looks sure when he has 5 or 6 yards of space to run into or make a pass. Against good teams that isn’t going to happen.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    I would also add that Raylor doesn’t read the diagonal pass to the winger on the run well enough and with a good right winger that is devastating because they can cut inside or cross, as happened several times in today’s game. Just a thought.

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    Oblong says:

    @ GeordieTwo

    I think the worry with Santon is whether he will cope with the physical side of the Prem after he got bossed against Blackburn.

    Personally I think Santon is still more likely to replace Simpson at the minute than Raylor….In my opinion of course :lol:

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    shottiesbru says:

    pards has said that santon is not up to speed with the english game as in he would be awarded fouls in italy that he wont be over here and that is what he need to learn, but in saying that he is saying he needs games but raylor has been playing well, but i think everyone admits and raylor would himself he isnt a defender im not sure personally what hie best position is does anyone else?

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