To me they are just commodities who come and go, almost at will. I don’t get why other people think differently either.
Anyway, I’ll stop digressing. As I said, I don’t usually look at former players at all, but this one seems to be all over the media so I’ll run with it and see what everyone else thinks about it.
The subject at hand is of course the weekend encounter with Liverpool and the first return to St James’ Park for the likes of Jose Enrique and Andy Carroll.
Much is being made of the reception these former favourites will get on their return to the club which effectively made them in England and gave Liverpool a reason to splash out a rather astonishing estimated £41 million on the pair. In fact Kenny Dalglish has already suggested that the pair may get a bit of stick upon their return.
Dalglish said in his pre-match press conference: “I’m not sure Andy will get abuse because what happened was outside his control. It’s up to them what they want to do. They pay their entrance money and, if they want to give him stick, they will give him stick. But I don’t think he ever did anything other than give of his best for Newcastle, and then they got £35m into the bargain as well. That’s not bad, is it?
“I think Andy will be excited about going back. It’s the club he supported as a boy, the club that introduced him and gave him his chance in professional football. So I think he will be excited about it as a local boy and will be looking forward to the game. José Enrique had a few years up there too, and he will be looking forward to it as well.”
I’m just wondering what kind of reception you guys have planned for our former number nine, and our former number three come to think of it.
Will it be a hostile one? Will it be a warm one? Will one player get a barracking while the other gets off lightly?
The cameras will be on Carroll and watching the reception he gets, but for me he isn’t the one that I’m most disappointed in. I’ve never bought this “forced out” baloney. Not in a million years can you force a player out of a club if they have a contract. If it could be done do you think we would STILL have Xisco and Alan Smith on our payroll?
Nope.
Carroll left his boyhood club for his own reasons. Whether that be money or or a better chance of Europe or a better shot at winning a trophy, who knows. He had his reasons and off he went,but most importantly he went quietly and we’ve not heard a peep out of him since. He hasn’t slagged off the club, the manager, the owners or anything like that.
Jose Enrique is a completely different kettle of fish however. The sneaky Spaniard played the game all along and knew he was off for months. It was evident in his performances for us, and the Blackpool away game sticks firmly in the mind when I look back on it.
He wanted to talk about a new deal in the summer so he told us. He wanted to wait until he knew we were safe before sitting down to discuss things, yet it seems he had no intention of doing so all along and he left for Liverpool after a rather public outburst on Twitter where he criticised the club, its policies, and its lack of ambition – a lack of ambition that sees his former club eight points clear of his current employers ahead of the game on Sunday.
You see when it comes to reactions from the crowd, not everything is as black and white as it seems and, from my perspective anyway, the media are barking up the wrong tree when it comes to looking for a reaction.
It’s not Carroll I’ll be barracking, it’s the slimy Spaniard!
To be quite honest Carroll and Enrique have showed their true colours by jumping ship when a so called bigger team came along, why would we want players at our club who didn’t want to be there?
In a nutshell out with the old in with the new, we hardly look like a team who misses either of them anyway so good riddance to bad rubbish I just hope it was worth it!
EI EI EI EI O!!!!!!!!
C.F.L
Pete(Quote)
carried away with extra ‘EI’ schoolboy error!
C.F.L
Pete(Quote)
In fairness you can’t really blame Enrique as we Invested next to nothing in the squad for near on 3 years and actually made a profit on transfers, we had little direction being communicated from those above and what about the “no capital outlay” statement from the club in the pre- season to coming back up – what was anyone meant to take from that? We like the players were as pessimistic as each other and it has only been post Christmas 2011 that we have actually known Mike Ashley’s intentions with regards to nufc. It is only with hindsight we can reflect on the fortunes of one another and I bet Enrique felt he was just going to being making up the numbers for a mid-table feeder club hence he jumped ship.
On Andy Carroll, well how do I put this – oh yeah… Fukn greedy ******* that’s getting his comeuppance and long may that continue. Fat pony tailed ******!
Davo(Quote)
They will both get very negative reactions I reckon, particularly Carroll. But I still love this nugget form enrique:
“This club will never again fight to be among the top 6 again with this policy.”
MDS(Quote)
I think Enrique and Carroll will probably be a bit embarrassed to be honest but they could always look at their bank balance for comfort. I’m not really bothered anymore, Carroll we have replaced and Enrique we will replace probably this summer. They have won a cup and have Europa, they could still win the FA cup so its no like they have nothing but it is nice that we are 8 points above them and I really hope we beat them just to rub it in.
DJG(Quote)
MDS…he’s right, the fight is for top 5…top 6 was a stroll(hopefully) 😉 😆
Give the pair of them dogs of abuse, neither of them are legends at NUFC, ex players usually get abuse on their return to former clubs. That’s football, if ya can’t take the heat……
richietoon(Quote)
To be honest though, Carroll should be cheered as it was selling him that made the club good again. Jose was the one who kept lying about wanting a contract extension when all he was doing was waiting for the first big club to come in for him. He backed us into a corner and it probably cost us 10M
MDS(Quote)
To be fair to Enrique, I bet he’s as surprised to see our league position as I am. He probably feels a bit of a tool for saying we’d never challenge the top 6 again, but to be honest, when he and Barton were slating the club for having no ambition blah blah etc., I myself was pretty much in the same camp, as I’m sure many other fans were too.
At the time when we were going through a major shake up, losing Carroll, Enrique, Barton and Nolan for big money, collectively, I had big concerns over the club’s ambition. To this day though, I’m still not really sure how much of it was ‘luck’ that the likes of Cabaye, Tiote, Ba and Ben Arfa have fit into the rest of the squad so seamlessly. I’d like to think it was good planning/scouting, but it could’ve so easily gone tits-up.
With regards to Carroll, I’d agree with Toonsy, I’ve never really blamed him for leaving, but we never see what goes on behind closed doors and between players and agents.
At the end of the day I bear no hard feelings against any of our ex-players, apart from maybe Bellamy, but most ex-players will always get stick when they return to their old clubs, and rightly so in my eyes. It’s not malicious, just healthy (and often strategic) crowd banter designed to throw players off their game for the benefit of the baying fans’ team. And quite often the crowd banter is bloody funny too!
Give ’em ****, I say! 😆
Rodzilla(Quote)
Richie, just seen your comment, that’s how I feel. Players always say they thrive on the abuse anyway.
At the end of the day I’d be perfectly happy to walk past my local lollypop lady every day and be called a c*nt, then told to “f*ck off you greedy *******” by old Hazel in the Co-op as I pick up my morning paper if I was on £40k a week or whatever.
Rodzilla(Quote)
Team for the match
Krul
Simpson, Willo, Perch, Raylor
Cabaye, Tiote, Jonas
HBA, Cisse, Ba
to be fair that took a lot of thinking about didn’t it. Raylor or Santon at LB duh
Premandup(Quote)
i hope that they get that much abuse they start to blab like big babys 👿
batty(Quote)
Prem- yeah the team kind of picks itself after last week. I agree on Raylor- with Collo out we might need a little more ecperience on the back 4 this week.
MDS(Quote)
Good fair view Toonsy.
Carroll obviously burns because he supports his own town club and he has lost the opportunity to be loved and remembered like Milburn & Shearer but has been respectful to the Toon
Enrique is a different matter and you sum it up well
It will be wonderful to batter some sense onto Liarpool on Sunday
Whoarya(Quote)
both are prone to mistakes and the more we boo and hassle them the better, simple as that
while were on the subject the same applies for suarez– he will bite and gwet sent off
as for gerrard we should cheer him to the rafters — class act who will only get better if we boo him !
bb(Quote)
since its unlikely that either one of them will ever darken the doors of our training ground again – i say we roast both of the bastards!!
tattyheed(Quote)
What I love the most is that every player that has left since we got promoted has gone on to much better things…………………. oh wait maybe only barton has 😆
Couldnt give a stuff as long as tiote cripples them
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Rodzilla says:
March 30, 2012 at 14:30
To be fair to Enrique, I bet he’s as surprised to see our league position as I am. He probably feels a bit of a tool for saying we’d never challenge the top 6 again, but to be honest, when he and Barton were slating the club for having no ambition blah blah etc., I myself was pretty much in the same camp, as I’m sure many other fans were too.
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Hard to argue with that, but as the article says, I think Enrique made up his mind to leave long beofre Barton and Nolan were sold. He kept coming up with excuses to push bacl the contract negotiaitons and then jumped when the first “big club” (his words) came in for him.
MDS(Quote)
Circumstances forced Carroll out IMO.
The Toon making it clear £35m was too much to turn down and Carroll being offered more than double his wage.
Can’t blame Carroll at all.
I won’t be jeering him.
I don’t blame Enrique either. No one could have predicted liverpools and The Toons league placings this season and he was simply being ambitious.
He couldn’t see it happening at the Toon but who did?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy carroll whilst bids were accepted it was always his call to get treble his wages; however he was our number 9 albeit shortly and has helped us get to top 6 this season; without that money we wouldnt have cisse, ba, cabaye, etc
Enrique would be so good in our team right now 😥
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Stillian Petrov been diagnosied with Leukemnia
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7637608/Petrov-diagnosed-with-leukaemia
Thoughts with him and his family
Johno Toon(Quote)
Is it not normally a case of booing a player and he ends up laying better and wanting to put the ball in the back of the net even more. I agree with Toonsy, perhaps do something when their name is read out, but through the game, forget the booing of anybody and just make the noise cheering our lads on, lets be the 12th man
Simon(Quote)
I totally blame both fo them for leaving as NUFC is the best club in the world and I can’t see why anyone would want to play for anyone else
Jon R(Quote)
I will boo both, Along with anyone else wearing red.
Despise liverpool and i wont forget the “stayed on the telly” **** wor al endured at their decaying shithole, Im giving it kenneth will both barrels win lose or draw the miserable ****…
CC(Quote)
yeah just seen that Johno, I knew he was ill but that one came pretty unexpectedly – pretty serious ****. Hopefully he’ll pull through. 😐
MDS, yeah I think the difference is with Enrique and Barton’s public dummy-spitting. We see it happening so often these days. Twitter has become a manager’s nightmare and a journalist’s dream.
Rodzilla(Quote)
For me,is the manager i will boo. Never forgive and forget what he does to that newcastle squad. 👿 😥
As for carroll and enrique, for the former,he hardly scores anyway,no need to even boo him off.
For the latter,he will receive the same treatment as i boo off “King” Kenny. 😉
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
CC says:
March 30, 2012 at 15:20
Despise liverpool and i wont forget the “stayed on the telly” **** wor al endured at their decaying shithole,
What was this?
Johno Toon(Quote)
….Johno, they were shouting “you should’ve stayed on the telly” at him, when we was managing us against them.
…I thought it was funny as fook personally. 😆
Rodzilla(Quote)
Think jeering is fine and expected.
Don’t really care to be honest, both are irrelevant to us now, both left the club when they had potential to become legends here.
Carroll – Alan Shearer. Turned down transfers, wage rises, the lot, and he could have had trophies galore. Carroll half a good season, gets the no 9 shirt, buggers off to Liverpool.
Enrique – To me he was just as slimy as Barton, using twitter to cater to gushing fans, manipulating the situation, knowing that if they questioned ambition and the board that the everyday fan would obligingly believe them and not blame them for the transfer.
Don’t begrudge either of them the move, Liverpool, regardless of how they are now, are still easily the second biggest English club. I just hated the way they both tried to manipulate the fans into forgiving them for the move, they should man up and say they wanted not, not say they were pushed or it was because Ashley was happy just avoiding relegation each year 🙄
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
@Troy 18
Cabaye/Ben Arfa/ Tiote/ Cisse/ Ba/ Perch 😉
They all managed to see some sufficient ambition to move here…
Heaven forbid we don’t match the ambition required by Joey Barton and the rest of the conniving mercenaries haha
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
@Liam 19
If he had stayed our first team (once Santon has settled) would be amazingly set 😐
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Rodz – interesting comment you made about twitter. Don’t know if you saw Mark Douglas’s article in today’s Journal, but it kind of backs up the point you made about it being a journalist’s dream:
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/03/30/twitter-remains-a-positive-force-in-football-61634-30656483/
Chris G(Quote)
Chris@31, I hadn’t seen that mate, but just read it, cheers. Some handy links on there too for any Twitterers out there.
Interesting to hear comments from Danny Simpson regarding his account closure…
“I don’t want to put myself in that position or the club in that position. Theres only so much you can read, because we’re all human and I could feel myself going to retaliate so I just needed a break.”
…sensible words and attitude from wor Danny. Some people just can’t help themselves though. I don’t go on Facebook anymore cos I got sick of waking up the morning after a skinful and seeing the mess I’d made 😆
I’m not defending by any means, but it’s crazy how you can get locked up nowadays for a mistimed and inappropriate drunken quip. I’m talking about that tool who got locked up for the Muamba tweets.
With regards to footballers and Twitter, Twitter could introduce some sort ‘moderator’ app, where all football clubs would assign a ‘Tweet Monitor’ from within their PR departments, to screen each player Tweet before it going live. Or something. I suppose that would take the fun out of it for the ‘car-crash’ general public who all love a bit of a scandal.
Rodzilla(Quote)
Never mind petrol, Andy Carroll is a great example of never panic buying!
On topic, I pity him. Threw it all away in pursuit of money, when he had enough to live comfortably on for the rest of his days anyway. If he comes good and wins some major trophies (not gonna happen anytime soon) then you have to say fair play but if he doesn’t, and he threw away the chance to be a hero/legend in his home town…idiot
Moreno(Quote)
That’s probably a good idea Rodz. Feel for Simmo, but it’s hard to say how many were from actual angry fans and how many were from mackems just trolling to get a rise.
Yeah don’t agree with the Muamba sentence at all, did you see the guy who’s life was ruined because he made some sarcy comment about “blowing Heathrow sky high if they don’t hurry up!” ?
I think tweets/comments on websites etc should be taken as they are usually said, as throwaway comments like just casually chatting to your friends.
If it is harrassment, ie targetting a player, or setting up a website specifically to berate someone then i think a punishment is justified, not for twitter comments though.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I don’t bare any ill feelings towards Andy Carroll ,to his credit he has never uttered a bad word about the club and truth be told I reckon he’d come back in a heartbeat but that’s another story.
Enrique is a different matter altogether . For me he is a slimy selfserving money grabbing ,glory hunting *** ,who knew exactly what he was doing when he so cleverly orchastrated his exit. 👿 So yes give him hell I say.
By far my most fervent vitirol would be aimed at Kenny though for the way he systematicly dismantled the best team we had in ages and turned us into an impotent unit and continues his quest to this day by trying to nick our players.You see if they don’t come after Cisse ,HBA or Ba with mega bucks come the summer aargh ,I hate them and hope we completely demolish them on sunday. Sorry ,rant over.
kimtoon(Quote)
Just like to say sad news about Stilian Petrov ,I wish him a speedy recovery from an awful illness.
kimtoon(Quote)
Yeah ST, that incident was Doncaster airport, apparently he was the first UK person to be arrested for a tweet:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html
…it is crazy though. There’s a huge difference between saying something to a mate for a laugh and broadcasting it worldwide. I think the authorities are hitting out pretty hard and making people scapegoats though. I think it’s getting to the point where people aren’t really sure what they can and can’t say these days, with everyone suing each other left right and centre and the PC brigade jumping in at any opportunity.
…anyway, I’m off now. Catch thees later… 😎
Rodzilla(Quote)
@Trumpet
Shearer never showed any interest in joining the Toon prior to KK turning us into title contenders.
He was also on a huge wage and believed the Toon could win trophies.
Totally different circumstances to Carroll. 🙄
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@Moreno
He’s won a trophy in his first season something the Toon haven’t done I over 50 yrs!
I think that’s fair play already and it’s likely he’s gonna be going to wembley again in the FA Cup.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
*think scapegoat was the wrong word there, but you know what I mean. Anyway, tatty bye….
Rodzilla(Quote)
@Troy
To be fair man you still feel that Carroll was “forced out” so I can only take what you say with a pinch of salt.
Really? Between KK and Sir Bobby he believed we could win trophies? Even in the Sir Bobby years we had a defence consisting of Bramble/O’Brien/Griffin/Dabizas etc we were reliant on Bobby’s management and Shearer’s goals, without either we would have had our glaring weaknesses exposed.
If he was serious about winning trophies he would have moved elsewhere. But he knew that whilst winning trophies is important, nothing beats playing for your home town club.
Christ Troy both Barca and Man Utd came in for Shearer! He could have done what you conveniently forget to mention Carroll did (TRANSFER REQUEST), but he didn’t.
Utter delusion sometimes mate.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
They both went for more money and who can blame them if i could double my wage i would jump at the chance (im betting most of you would aswell).
They are payed to play football, explayers get booed i dont think they will care thatmuch either way.
Robbie(Quote)
Troy Stavers says:
March 30, 2012 at 16:27
He’s won a trophy in his first season something the Toon haven’t done I over 50 yrs!
Liverpool have underachived this season , but I would swap finishing 7th and having a cup won than finishing 6th ( maybe 5th 🙂 )
Johno Toon(Quote)
repost from last article
Evilfranky (on “willo should be given the armband”)
That’d be like Mcleish giving the armband to heskey, jonas deserves to be vice-vice-captain (behind S.Taylor), sums up not giving up and running to help the team right until the final whistle. Worried about our defence, place tiote just in front of them and then the other five can just be constantly attacking, not giving liverpool’s defence a moments rest, when they clear it, toto and perch receive it and send it back to the front-line.
Andymag(Quote)
Andy that would sum up my my hopes for the match , if Ba Cisse and Ben Arfa supoorted by Cabaye and Guti I think it be too much for liverpool. And Cabaye and Guti have the legs to run back and help our make shift defence
Johno Toon(Quote)
To be honest, as toon fans we should be putting all our energy into getting behind the 11 players in black and white.
Were obviously not going to cheer them, but I’m not one for booing players everytime they touch the ball. In fairness to both, neither have sold us down the river as accused.
If Enrique was to have “jumped ship” he could have done it when we got relegated!. He didn’t and was one of our best players that season, he then could have left the start of last season as well but didnt and again played well for us. He knew that he wasn’t going to get a pay increase staying at Newcastle so left. I don’t love the lad and I don’t hate him either, I thank him for playing well for Newcastle. Thereafter, he’s just another football who once played for us and now plies his trade elsewhere.
As for Carroll, Liverpool desperately wanted him and we eventually sold him!. Again, he did his job while he played for us and scored the goals that helped us stay in the EPL that season. Yes he tripled his salary but we also got some quality players in with his fee so we all done ok out of it. Carroll is also one of us, he’s a Geordie lad and I always want to see players from our region do well, whoever they play for (weird I know).
Neither player done us over or handed in a transfer request and both have silverware and will player European football next season, so putting money aside, you could argue that the moves were justified.
Enrique was stupid for mouthing off when he left, but there were alot of stupid things going on in our club during his time with us, but I do think he should have just kept his gob shut.
I think the Muamba and Petrov situation really drills home that these lads are just human, most young and immature and probably have greedy agents in their ear telling them what to do.
Fans shouldn’t wasted time and energy hating other players, we should exhaust ourselves supporting ours….. But god I hate Liverpool!!! 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Judas c¥nts both of them
witters(Quote)
I personally wouldn’t opt for Raylor though he has done his best when called upon. I find him too slow in thought and deed. Hope I am wrong. If he plays on Sunday I am sure he will give 100%, but I would prefer Santon.
Groucho(Quote)
Has everyone forgot that Carroll came out with a pack of lies when he left?
He said ‘he had no choice he was forced out’ he sneeked out the back door for big wages (which I have no problem with. But instead of saying it was the contract of a lifetime he was happy to let the fans turn on the club again.
He was happy to see the club ruined as long as he looked OK. I say he should be given a greeting worse than the devil himself. He is a rotter. 😆
Stardust(Quote)
Stardust – I actually believe that there was an element of truth in that like. In the sense that I don’t believe Carroll wanted to leave. I could well believe that the club went to Carroll and said “we’ve been offered £35m, pack ya bags, ya leaving”. I don’t believe that board went to him and said “we’ve been offered £35m in CASH for you but we’d really like you to say” for Carroll to reply “**** off, I’m out of here”. The board would have wanted this transfer to go through knowing how beneficial it would be to the club.
He didn’t hand a transfer request in like Bent did to the scum.
I’d far sooner have ex players come back to SJP and see how passionately supportive the fans are and leave thinking “wish I was still there”
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy I sort of agree with you there 😉
Stardy maybe Jabba taught him how to tell lies, so I cant see why you would hold it against as it hasn’t put you off Jabba, But then you never liked Carroll ? sure you didn’t 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
last season we played nolan just behind carroll
now we are playing
ben arfa====cisse=====ba===
we have massively sorted our striking options out! to be honest i think andy carroll is an average player nowhere near as good as our 3 upfront!! if andy carroll likes it or not alot of fans will boo him!!
Army69(Quote)
Eee I tell ya, car seats for babies are a minefield aren’t they just 😡
Anyway….
Anyone else see that at Sam has an England release clause in his West Ham contract? 😆 😆 😳
toonsy(Quote)
Toonsy your pulling my leg about Sam ❓ yeah
Army I don’t think Carroll is an average player mate just not suited to the bin dippers, that like trying to say Torres is an average player ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
Toonsy@53 😆 😆 re: Big Sam, that’s a corker.
kimtoon(Quote)
Sharpy, i agree with you on the wanting him to do well (for England anyway), it is always nice to see a local lad succeed.
But it’s the straight lying to the fans, we vilify the board for their past deceit on here, why not the players?
What boils my blood the most is them trying to take advantage of our relationship with the board, they both turned their back on us, fair enough if they wanted more money or that Liverpool were a bigger club, I could accept both of those, but “i was forced out”, “club weren’t showing ambition”, blah blah, are just awful excuses to appease guilliable fans.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6714754,00.html
Sharpy he handed in a transfer request. So he is the same as Bent.
I know it’s claimed that “the board made him do it so they wouldn’t get blamed for the sale”, but it’s not like our board have cared too much about pr relations in the past is it.
Fck it, I think they should be booed, i certainly will at the start of the game anyway, enough ambition for Cabaye/Ben Arfa/Tiote/Cisse etc but not for those two muppets.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Toonsy that is hilarious.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
ST Jose said his main reason was that he couldn’t trust the club because they had broke promises they made him. so what lies did he tell
He also said the club wasn’t showing ambition ? which was true
Big Dave(Quote)
@Trumpet
You really struggle with the basics don’t you. 😛
Barca and Man Utd came in for him was your cry.
My goodness grief Trumpet. You’ve put on your parachute and asked Harry Houdini double check it only to discover that you pulled your cord and you slipped straight out your chute and plummeted like a sack of tatties!
Do you not get the drift that that when Man Utd were showing interest we were potentially looking to topple them.
When SBR was there, he was well past his best and Man Utd were not interested at all. So please speak sense instead of blowing raspberries out your trumpet.
😆
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Liverpool can claim success this season all they want, but their owners made it clear that their goal was champions Legaue this year and they are going to fall well short of that.
Stardust at 49. You are right about carroll. He always conviently leaves out the part about trying to use the LPool offer to up his wages despite signing a contract a few months before.
As for Enrique, i don’t see any proof that he leied necessarily, but there is pretty strong evidence that he wasn’t sincere about ever wanting a new deal at the club.
MDS(Quote)
Carroll told the Newcastle Evening Chronicle on Tuesday: “[Managing director] Derek [Llambias] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice. I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money.
“Then I flew down in [owner Mike Ashley’s] helicopter. I didn’t want to leave. I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave. The players, staff and fans were fantastic.”
At 2.37pm GMT on Monday, Carroll told Wraith he was “not going anywhere”, but by 5pm Carroll had said: “They have kind of said we don’t want u but want me to say I wanna go. And I said I don’t want to go.”
Newcastle claimed that they accepted Liverpool’s £35 million offer after the striker handed in a transfer request, but Carroll said: “No I didn’t that’s what I mean that’s what they wanted me to do and I said no. They said they wanted to accept it.”
Asked if he had no choice but to move to Anfield, he replied: “Looks like it.”
Wraith then asked Carroll if he had “any message you want put across to the fans?” Carroll replied: “They said they wanted the money. Gutted to be leaving Newcastle but I was kind of pushed out the door. Gutted to be leaving my home club but I was practically told to go. Didn’t want to leave that’s why i signed a five-year deal.”
Troy Stavers(Quote)
If the club really did “force” carroll out (something i don’t really believe), they should be commended for making one of the best transfer decisions in the club’s history
MDS(Quote)
@Big Dave
Torres is not average he is ****. Carroll is as average as they come he only did well for us because our whole team played to his strengths.
Robbie(Quote)
YOUS CAN REASON ALL YOU LIKE ,, ANYONE THAT LEAVES THEIR HOME TOWN CLUB IS JUDAS
TOONPIPES(Quote)
CARROLL = JUDAS
TOONPIPES(Quote)
@Big Dave, how did they not? Ben Arfa, Tiote and Cabaye all signal ambition 😆
@Troy, never mind, live in your bubble with Barton etc.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Is it just me or does Carroll come across as a helpless child when he gives interviews.
Reporter: “Andy, are you ok? Have you lost your parent club?”
Andy nodds 😥
Reporter: “Did they make you leave?
Andy nodds 😥 “I didn’t wanna go like” wipes nose “they just pushed me oot”. 😆
Andymag(Quote)
Think with the Carroll sale there be 3 sides to. The clubs side , Carrolls side and the truth. And the truth will be a mixture of.both sides.
And I think Nolan has a lot to answer for in my opinion. A club captain should not act in the manner he did.
Johno Toon(Quote)
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Nolan was a bellend that was past his play-by-date, have you seen him in the championship, WH fans think he’s great for getting goals but he gets loads of suspensions for the captain of the team, he’s no whre near the player he was for us down there. Have to say though was impressed with how he defended Vuckic when WH played Cardiff and Haris ‘accidentaly’ nailed someone.
Andymag(Quote)
Club = Progress
Fans = Regress
Robbie(Quote)
ST how did he Lie ❓ As for ambition I think he was mainly talking about the fact that they still hadn’t replaced our main striker
As for Carroll I think Johno hits the nail on the head we have the Clubs side Carroll side and somewhere in the middle will be the truth, add to that that he is a silly youngun and had Nolan his best mate telling him he should go.
Big Dave(Quote)
To boo or not to boo that is the question?
Enrique – won’t be booing him, players come, players go end of story, but Carroll is a different matter. Shallow greedy little ****, forced out, I don’t think so, he’d just signed a five year contract, nobody could force him out if he did’nt want to go. He buggered off cause of the money.
He very conveniently forgets all about the support he got from the club when he was making virtually weekly appearances in court on one charge or another.
Daglish – Yes cause he’s a t**t.
Toonie 1949(Quote)
Andy a big majority of bloggers still thought Nolan was a brill captain even though he talked Carroll into leaving, they only turned on him when he went to the hammers
Big Dave(Quote)
NOLAN = ****** … WELL RID …
TOONPIPES(Quote)
ST – I still don’t believe the transfer request story, Newcastle is his boyhood club and he has never looked pleased to be away.
The truth is, when they left, the club weren’t showing signs of ambition … a complaint made by almost all fans (if not all). Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But in Carrolls case, I really don’t believe we would be close to 6th spot had we not sold him.
Fans have the right to voice there opinions, whether it be to the board or player (their own or opponents). Personally I don’t like hearing it, as most of the the time it just spurs that particular player on to play better. But mainly because I prefer to focus completely on our 11 players – that’s who I go there to watch and support.
Sharpy17(Quote)