Young, cheap, with relatively low wages I’d say Simpson has paid back his outlay ten fold in terms of what he has achieved at United (the REAL United, not the fake one from Manchester).
Yet seemingly this isn’t enough for some fans who see fit to castigate him at every opportunity. Now for sure there are better right-backs out there and arguably it’s a position we should have strengthened during the summer, but some of the headlines I’ve read (including this piece from Ed, which has inspired me to write this) are just pure waffle.
I mean is Vurnon Anita REALLY the best right-back at the club? Sure he seemed to play better at right-back when switched there in the absence of Simpson, but is less than one game really enough to be dishing out such lavish praise, especially when the player he has replaced through injury has been nothing short of outstanding since his arrival from Manchester United?
Danny Simpson has been a key component of our resurgence. He helped us out of the Championship, helped us stay in the Premier League and helped us qualify for Europe via a 5th placed league finish. Admittedly he hasn’t done that without mistake but being truthful you’d be hard pushed to find a player who hasn’t put a foot wrong at some point.
As I alluded to earlier, he’s not the best right-back the world has ever seen and I dare say there are better players out there, but he has rarely let us down when called upon and has been vital for us these past three seasons.
Surely that deserves a bit of respect?
Simpson definitely deserves respect AND praise for his defensive duties at right back. He’s very solid for us. His only downside is his lack of attacking threat, but at least he helps keep goals away from our net
AndrewT(Quote)
I do not dislike Simmo but when you watch him receive the ball his instinct is always to pass back to the centre half. He rarely picks a pass out and when he does it is usually sideways or backwards. He is slow to move forward, his crossing and final ball are actually very poor. He has strengths including blocking, defensive positional play and clearances but I think fans want more than that from a right back.
g boy(Quote)
Hello, I agree Simpson get’s a lot of uncalled for abuse. He may not be spectacular, but he does a good job for us. Of course he can be improved upon, but he’s far from a terrible player as quite a few people like to believe.
One last thing, Ed’s piece doesn’t say he thinks Anita is better, but that the votes indicated that the fans (who use Ed’s site) thought so.
So, where is this waffle and can I get mine with ice cream?
William Batey(Quote)
Thank you for a sensible piece about Simpson. To those who have written – ridiculously – that Simpson is dreadful and one of the worst to have worn a newcastle shirt , they must have very short memories. “I can do better” say some. I say – in your dreams. Simpson is a true pro who has given his considerable all for the good of the team and as you say has rarely let the team down. After all he was an integral part of the side that finished 5th a few months ago. A bit of realism required from a number of fans I think.
ballerfan2(Quote)
Cant argue with anything that has been said in the article and the replies som far. Simpson is a good player and has rarely let us down
Johno Toon(Quote)
G Boy,
What about his cross for Ba to score the winner against the spuds?
AndyG(Quote)
If he could close down his man and stop shots and crosses coming in rather than backing off all the time then he would be a decent defender – sadly he can’t and it costs us countless goals.
Toon Stew(Quote)
Simpson gets unfair stick because of articles like the one mentioned. There may be better but not at the same price or risk. We as in the fans should love him big time because he has done the biz and is loyal. He also keeps saying he wants to stay so let’s not drive him out ever. Even if we get Debuchy LOlL
Whoarya(Quote)
William Batey – It’s in the headline mate.
toonsy(Quote)
He has done well for us up to a point, but for me, if we are to progress, then improving the right-back position would be my priority. The club are not willing to improve his contract to a level he thinks he deserves so I am inclined to think the club don’t rate him as top player.
Groucho(Quote)
Simpson only takes stick from the minority brain dead moron brigade who have no understanding of the beautiful game other than, ‘i am gonna shout at him coz i divvent like him derrrr’
Knobs
2N2N(Quote)
I like Simpson. He isn’t a world beater, but he is an honest, solid defender who has consitently put in good work for the club. Don’t know why some people criticize so much him to be honest.
I wish he was better coming forward, but that’s my only real know on him…
MDS(Quote)
^^^my only real “knock”on him^^^
MDS(Quote)
Toonsy….Thanks for the reply. So the headline holds more substance that the actual article? I suppose it’s down to opinions, but you could argue the headline is still only referring to the outcome of the vote by the fans using the site, not Ed’s own view.
However I have just re-read the above article and note you did say headlines, not articles, so apologies for sticking my nose in.
William Batey(Quote)
Hands up – I’m one of the Simpson knockers. His distribution is poor, he backs off too much, too many goals come down his side, he panics on the ball and as for the goal line saves all it takes is a foot stuck out.
I also have to say Anita looked really comfortable there up and down the line. Ever thought of Simpson looking comfortable?
georgio(Quote)
Simpson is solid if not quality. Certainly doesmt derserve stick.
I don’t think Obertan gets treated any better. They are both scapegoats.
JJ(Quote)
Toonsy I have said it for a long time he’s not the best rb in the world but he’s not one of the worst, and is a lot better than people give him credit for.
I know stats arn’t everything but i think his stats said he was in the top 3 last season
Big Dave(Quote)
“solid if not quality”
JJ- I think that sums him up very well….
Nothing wrong with “solid” players. You need them at your club but you can’t afford an entire squad of them….
MDS(Quote)
JJ – you’re probably right he doesn’t exactly deserve stick but him, Obertan and Gosling are the poorest players getting first team games. Willo’s not much better!
And as a fan – we give out praise AND stick. It’s always been the same.
georgio(Quote)
Not sure who really wrote this piece but to call Simpson “nothing short of outstanding” is really stretching the imagination . . .
georgio(Quote)
William Batey – then I would question the views of the fans that cast that vote – as well as Ed actually for offering Anita as an option when really he hasn’t even played a full game at RB for us. How is that long enough to be judged a better RB than Simpson?!
I have always liked Simpson, yes he’s not the best right back in the Country but he gives 100% every time he puts on the colours. Ok, so he posted on twitter about an England call up, but I see that as ambition, which should be encouraged not scorned – and let’s be right, there are some very questionable players in possession of England caps.
He’s an honest lad, who has had difficult times in his personal life, with complications for his new born last season, and of course the issues with his contract (which would probably be another source of dislike from some fans), but he has never came out and flagged the club off or went to the papers about it. He also shows great support to his team mate, shown by his tweet to Campbell before the Greek game.
I know I have spoke about him more as a person than a player but I think that it’s important to have good people in the dressing room as well (Shola for example).
Yes there are better right backs out there but we have to go and buy on – Debuchy for example, but we won’t pay the money!!
I personally don’t see right back as our weakest area, and I’d far sooner see us resolve Simpsons contract and keep him at Newcastle, then spend money strengthening our CB and CF options, because I see far greater value in strength in depth than just having a strong starting 11.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Georgio
I would say the poorest player we have ever had is Shola. So I guess its personal.
Gosling and Obertan have hardly been given any change to impress.
JJ(Quote)
Sharpy…..And trust me I do question them…daily 😀
For Ed’s part, it’s hardly a crime to get fans views on a never ending topic…in this instance our RB situation. Perhaps to get an indication as to whether people think he should stay at RB or should Simpson come straight back in when fit and ready.
Anyway, on to Simpson. I am with you. He seems a decent enough guy on a personal level and when it comes to playing I have absolutely no problem with him representing Newcastle. As a defender, he is decent. We have enough attacking talent within the team to allow Simpson to do his job – defending. He is improving imo as far as attacking attributes go, but as i said this for me is an also ran.
Debuchy would have been an excellent addition, but far from a necessity. I think the board have shown they will spend money, but what they deem to be the right price. That is different from saying they wont spend the money imo.
Basically, I think we agree Sharpy 😉
William Batey(Quote)
georgio says:
September 11, 2012 at 15:08
Not sure who really wrote this piece but to call Simpson “nothing short of outstanding” is really stretching the imagination . . .
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The article states that the “signing” of Simpson was nothing short of outstanding. I’m not sure how that statement can even be argued against- we paid 750K (reported) for a player who has started for three straight seasons- through promotion and into Europe. Hard to say that wasn’t an “outstanding” bit of business…
MDS(Quote)
MDS and the author – “has been nothing short of outstanding since his arrival from Manchester United?”
Yeah he was cheap. But outstanding? Delusional.
georgio(Quote)
Toonsy ,Thanks for this article ,long overdue imo. I am sick of people slagging the lad off to be honest. This guy was a bargain buy and has never really let us down ,in fact his line clearences have saved our bacon many a time. Yes he’s not the best RB ever and yes he doesn’t go forward like Debuchy for instance but then I would question if Debuchy is as strong defending as Simmo ?. Eds blog vote is a joke ,how anyone can call Anita a better right back based on part appearence in one game beggers belief really, It may be true but no way we can be sure this soon, and it was only Villa ,would he have been as assured V Citeh ,Manure or Chelski I wonder. As I say Simmo is fine imo ,gives 100% never moans an d puts up with an unbelievible amount of abuse at times.
KIMTOON(Quote)
AndyG you mean the cross Walker badly misjudged and got underneath it to leave Ba wide open? It was the same kind of cross as his normal chipped up hopeful punt to the far post, only this time it was defended poorly and we profited.
Yes Simpson gets stick but it’s because he’s bang average (if that) and has turned down an alleged doubling of his salary when he should have snapped the board’s hand off. Also claimed he couldn’t afford a chauffeur if he got banned, maybe he should stop buying cars like Bentleys if he’s so hard-up then?! Players with an inflated self worth don’t last long under this regime (Nolan, Barton). Slow, indecisive, acts like football is a bomb, can’t pass it when he doesn’t think it’s a bomb, can’t cross, can’t take throw ins etc. The Arsenal away game last year was the last straw for me, we had possession down their final third and he got tackled and went down in instalments like he was shot and didn’t bother getting back.
Aye he runs back to the line and clears it off but how do you know another full back wouldn’t? Maybe if he could defend we wouldn’t keep having to get him to clear it off the line? He’s our weak link, even Ben Arfa is sick of his pathetic throw ins and tries to take them at every opportunity instead of Simpson .
Just looking at the clubs that finished below us last season and there are quite a few right backs I’d have over Simpson which is worrying as we can’t say that about many other positions.
Decent back up but must be replaced if we want to go to the next level, or stay at this one.
Pardiola(Quote)
I’d rather he signed a new deal and stayed as a reliable squad player, provided we had somebody who could keep him on his toes. That said, if he leaves I wont be gutted either. He’s injury free for the best part of every season, is goodvon the line, pretty reliable tackler and on his day can put anybody in his pocket. Rarely has an aweful game. Receny year or so he has stopped backing off wingers as much as he used to as well. Hus bad side is his offensive play. Gives the ball away and keaves himself and his fellow defenders exposed, too slow in the decision making process, resulting in lost opportunities. Overall, probably a 7 out of 10 for a Premiership standard right back. Certainly good enough at this level, however unlikely to ever be an England International or get a move to a regular Top 4 side. Good enough for Newcastle based on current standing? Yes, sign him up and give him some serious competition for his shirt. If he goes, replaceable, but at what cost and to what effect? ❓
Shamrock(Quote)
William Batey – I don’t think Toonsy is trying to incriminate Ed in any way – more call into question the neutral stance of a headline ‘versatile Anita already the best right back at Newcastle’. In my opinion that is very leading headline – regardless of the content of the article that follows. I’m sure Toonsy can speak for himself, but that’s my issue with Eds article.
As for Newcastle spending. Yes, I agree we spend on players that will maintain our current position. What I meant was that we won’t spend the money to buy the established players that would make us serious contenders to regularly challenge the top 4. They will instead spend smaller amounts of money buying (admittedly) well scouted players in a hope that they will make it – and so far (again, admittedly) in the main it has worked. But it is a more lengthy process than spending the extra couple of million for players already there. For the record, whilst it’s frustrating as hell during the window period, I probably agree with that approach.
Sharpy17(Quote)
@Sharpy
We’ll know if the approach has worked only at the end of the season.
I’m not too confident based on our performances so far. 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Got to agree with Toonsy on this one. 😉
He has always given everything on the field, seems to be professional off it, rarely injured and some of the passion shown by him when Krul pulls off a stormer of a save demonstrates he cares.
Allegedly he’s been on low wages for a premier league player and though he’s not top quality he’s certainly been value for money.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Georgio @25….Annn….I misread it.
Still, delusional is a bit harsh.
MDS(Quote)
Sharpy – As I said earlier, I later realised Toonsy mentioned headline, not article and yes, on the face of it, the headline suggests Anita is a better RB. What a difference a question mark could have made 🙂 My point still stands, if someone read the article (Ed’s), surely they would see he isn’t saying Anita is a better RB – unless I’m missing something.
On Spending (and I am off now so will keep this brief, yes, you can let off a sigh of relief) – I am not privy to the negotiations with Lille (for example). Much has been reported about conditions changing etc and if they are true, it can hardly be said we wont spend on players to take us to the next level, if you will. We will continue to improve the squad with better and seemingly younger players. Overall I do believe we will progress, not just maintain our current position, but it will take time with the model being used. I personally think it’s great we’re not held to ransom anymore, we’ve waited a good long while, I can wait a little while longer.
Been good chatting.
William Batey(Quote)
William Batey – I suppose my point is that another blog has posed the same question, but went with the headline ‘have Newcastle found a new right back?’ (the question mark is key IMO). A far more balanced heading. Also, Eds article only spoke of Anita, who has only played around 60mins in that position!, it’s just a premature question IMO.
Troy – you’re right mate, Cashleys and Dekkas approach can only truely be judged in the fullness of time. The only reason I say I approve of it so far is because most of our signings have been a success, when you look at the likes of Santon, Cabaye, Tiote, Benny, Marv, Ba and Cisse for example – an approx outlay of £30m or so. So as much as I’d like to see them spend the money to improve the areas I feel we lack depth in, Im reasonable enough to accept that it may not be the right way. But I agree that the way we are playing at the mo needs improving.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Can someone let me know if the reading game on sat 29th has been moved as I sorted respite for the saturday now ,but I got a funny feeling it’s moved ,anyone know ?
KIMTOON(Quote)
Simpson is a decent right back but nothing more. It all comes down to ambition. Ashley wasn’t willing to spend enough to improve us by actually paying what Debuchy was worth. He wasn’t willing to spend to strengthen us at CB. We haven’t improved our depth at striker. All of these failings indicate Ashley is happy to sit around 6th to 8th in the division and reap the rewards of the new TV contract starting next season. No chance for a Champions League position where the real money is. Is this a smart approach long term? Not so sure. He risks losing the supporters again if we have more injuries and fall out of the top 8. 3M is not an appropriate outlay for a top 5 team in the summer window.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
i for one think simpson is a top guy he has never demanded a transfer playing for the team is his priority think we need a left back more than a right back as we dont have a left footed player to play in that persition as anita is right footed and fergie is a winger
chris(Quote)
Fo’real, is it cuz he is black Ayyyyyyyyyyye?
Newkie(Quote)
On a more serious note, I’m not really sure. I’d guess its because he’s not a fashionable full back. Namely, he’s english and lacks the flair/ability to storm up the wing which people love from full backs-Enrique and Santon for instance. If you ask me though, he’s a fair bit better than Santon defensively atm, although clearly Santon’s potential is awesome.
Add in the obsession some have that spending big is the be all and end all and perhaps that’s why he gets a hard time. Personally I think he’s a good lad and whilst unspectacular has helped us greatly every season he’s been here. Playing virtually week in week out, and asked to play through injury, I think i’ve seen him tired once? Which partly cost us a point against arsenal, and for that he was absolutely crucified by huge numbers of fans. Appalling if you ask me but meh.
Even if he’s not skilled at dribbling, his crossing is actually pretty good for a full back, and he constantly runs up the wing to make space for those he partners, Barton, Obertan, Arfa etc.
Newkie(Quote)
I know it’s still early in the season, but so far Simmo is still first choice RB, and if fit, I’m sure he’ll be in the team to face Everton. Also Simmo is saying he is working hard to be fit to face Everton – not sat on his hint end collecting the coin and seeing out the final year of his contract. That counts for something and he deserves a new deal
Sharpy17(Quote)
KIM this all i can find,but maybe not bang up to date 😐
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Match/FixturesAndResults
icedog(Quote)
If he’s not fit i’d like to see Anita on the left and Santon on the right so they can cross with their better feet. However I’d understand if we kept it the same for stability sake, Santon probably needs more help..
Assuming we play 4-4-2 that is…. ❓
Newkie(Quote)
agree with most on here Simmo is a top player for us look at where we were when he arrived on loan and look at ythe progress we have made since, as an ever present he has more than played his part, give him a new contract
it seems some of our so called fans are only ever bothered about slagging players off as they feel this will help improve their confidence and commitment,
everone is entitled to their oppinion and for those who dont like simpson then fair enough, but to be fair some of the critiscim he gets is way over the top there has to be a difference between oppinion and abuse and sometimes on these forums i find it hard to tell the difference
bb(Quote)
ICE , thanks ,bit confused as Eds site got it down as sunday but official site still says sat 😕
KIMTOON(Quote)
KIM go on reading site,maybe they are more up to date 😉
icedog(Quote)
I’m not usually a **** stirrer but there’s rumours going round on twitter (I know! Pinch of salt is at hand! :lol:)
But apparently a big chunk of the squad is not happy that we didn’t sign anyone in the summer and so it’s caused a bit of a rift.
By the way if you’re on twitter I’m @Nobbyclarke82
On Simmo, he’s never infuriated me the way some people get about him but he’ll get into an advanced position and then runs out of ideas. Defensively he’s sound, he doesn’t ‘back off’ like some people make out, in fact he’s got great defensive timing and reading. IMO!
Nobby(Quote)
Ice did you find out when the other leg is 😀 😉
Nobby you may get your helmet on because when I said the players wouldn’t be to happy with the ambition the club has shown, I got a bit of stick 😉 atleast 2 of our players came out in public to call for the club to sign quality players so you can be pretty sure most of the squad felt the same
Big Dave(Quote)
I reckon cabaye must be one of them (if it’s true!) he was bigging up debuchy big style and then nothing happened!
Me personally am not bothered too much that we didn’t sign defensive cover but if it’s causing a rift I am bothered about that 😕
Nobby(Quote)
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@BD
I’m trying to work out who the leader will be in the changing room. If there’s unrest then it needs a big character to pull the team together.
My only guess is Pardew 😯
He’s done ok so far in keeping the camp happy. I think he’ll pull it off but it can’t happen again.
The thing is, he needs to get a grip of it immediately because if they don’t set the same standards early and aren’t near the top 6 then the heads drop and the rot sets in.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
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When I say it needs a big member to pull the team together in the changing rooms, I didn’t mean it literally! 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I have to say I’m surprised by all the Simmo love. Where are all the haters, there were plenty aboot for most of last season… 😯
Troy-Shola’s the Boss man. He’ll whip the lads into shape to rival his own!
😆
Newkie(Quote)
🙄 @ 50 😆 😆
I wouldn’t be surprised if Pards knew of any unrest and really what could he do about it because deep down im sure he would feel the same, remember he was the one that stated that he got Cabaye etc by assuring them that we would be pushing for European footie, then he was the one that came out and said that he wanted to add 2 or 3 players and would like to have them in before the Euros etc, I am convinced that Cabaye would be fuking sick after coming out and publicly tapping up Debuchy for the club not to push the boat out to get him, as there is no way he would have done that without the clubs say so, and if so then the club have made him and Debuchy look like a pair of right mugs.
Big Dave(Quote)
As people have mentioned, Simmo is also a good character who clearly loves playing for the club. Such characters are a vital part of a football club-especially ours. A big part of our season last year was the togetherness and teamwork shown by players who were often outclassed man for man by other teams but who didn’t have our same ethic. If there is trouble, I certainly can’t see simmo being a part of it..
Newkie(Quote)
Dave-He may know about it, and he may feel the same, but at the end of the day its his job to do something about it. Not that he can’t be a bit pissed but it’s not really surprising and I doubt he’s surprised after being shafted, but its just another challenge he’s going to have to deal with.
Newkie(Quote)
Nobby 😯 > Me personally am not bothered too much that we didn’t sign defensive cover but if it’s causing a rift I am bothered about that
Can you hand on your heart really not be that bothered that we didn’t sign any defenders to give us ( Our Team ) a better chance of getting back into the top 6 and Europe next season, never mind to just keep the players happy ❓ ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
Newkie yeah it is just another challenge for him to deal with, but do you think he is not going to get fuked off facing challenges simple because he is being screwed yet again by his bosses.
Because I would be real surprised is he didn’t get fuked off with them as its hard enough facing the normal challenges of the prem, but when they’re challenges that could have been avoided then it’s a bit different 😕
Big Dave(Quote)
DAVE @ it was last week i think 😉
icedog(Quote)
Sorry save , wrong choice of words, not ‘not bothered’ just it hasn’t effected me emotionally like some other things
Nobby(Quote)
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@BD
Has Debuchy moved on or signed a new contract?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Dave not save
Nobby(Quote)
Dave-The very fact he took up the Newcastle job shows just how much he’s up for a challenge, in fact he’s had an easyish ride so far! 😆
Maybe if it happens year on year it would be fair for Pards to start getting pissy, but at the end of the day how many years has Moyes carried on doing a good job even with **** all support? He needs to be a professional and carry on doing his job. It’d be pathetic if he started whining week in week out or threw in the towel imo, he knew what he was getting in to.
Newkie(Quote)
At the end of the day Anita and bigi a seem to be great signings
And I’m happy with them… A little tweaking and they could be **** hit!
Nobby(Quote)
Newkie at 61 great point about mouse
Nobby(Quote)
Mouse? Fucking predictive typing! Moyes!
Nobby(Quote)
Ice @ 57 thanks mate I knew I could rely on you to keep me right 😉
Newkie as I said there is the normal challenges in the day to day life of a prem manager but when your bosses screw you over like they have done to every other manager and also to our current manager, no one is saying he should come out whining week in week out 😯 , the club have lied to him before and made him look like a right muppet, then last Jan we had Pards telling us that Mike says when am I getting the CB in ?? will he still hasn’t got one in, then when Raylor gets injuried Pards was basically saying we’ll need t o get a replacement in, and that he was going to see Lambastad the next day. Then the next thing is that he then thinks we can run with what we have, then look at it again in Jan do you really buy that **** 😕 😕
Nobby @ 62 they are MF’s we don’t really need MF’s that can cover in the defence we need proper defenders
Big Dave(Quote)
He gets stick cos he just doesn’t have a football brain and looks out of his depth at this level, will the same fans get all starry eyed about him when he goes on a free in January? Loyal my ****.
Robert(Quote)
Newkie I meant to add that Moyes case is totally different imo our revenue would be a hell of a lot more than Evertons and I can’t remember Moyes board making him look like a liar either
Big Dave(Quote)
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@BD
Are you aware if Debuchy has been transferred or signed a new contract. I haven’t followed him since it fell thru.
Anyone else know?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Robert in your opinion he doesn’t have a football brain, or is that a proven fact ?
if he goes for free it will be the same for me as Guthrie i’ll say good luck to them and shame on our club for letting it happen in the 1st place
Big Dave(Quote)
coz hes ***** he goes missing to much in games,the lad needs to stay at rb and stop coming in when we are on the back foot.
hitman(Quote)
Troy I think things just remained the same with Debuchy im pretty sure he hasn’t signed a new contract.
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave-Well by that token he was also told he wouldn’t be getting a striker and then he got Cisse in Jan. Not a bad lie to be told surely? In fact I bet he was a lot happier he got Cisse in than a CB in January, and so was I tbh.
You just backed up my point as well, the owners have shafted our other managers so if Pards was expecting a totally different atmosphere then he was clearly living in dreamland.
I don’t really know what you mean “buying that ****”? I expect Pards to do the best he can, and that’s what he’s said he’s going to do?
Newkie(Quote)
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@BD
Aye. I’ve just checked. He’s still at Lille.
That being the case, it wouldn’t surprise me if we capture him in January for a cut price.
I’m basing this on how we work nowadays.
Freiburg wanted £14m for Cisse in the summer and we got him for 9m in January.
Who knows? This regime have to take credit based on the last two years. I’m willing to give them time on that basis alone.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@ 70 Jez look what the cats dragged in 😆 where have you been hitman haven’t seen you in yonks. I missed your positivity over the window
Big Dave(Quote)
cheers dave.lol.im going through a divorce at the mo m8 so life is up in arms.
hitman(Quote)