Sunderland Win This evening Condemns Newcastle back to the Championship

A win for Sunderland on Wednesday against an unpredictable Everton side will confirm Newcastle’s relegation from the top flight and leave the club in turmoil and in need of a drastic overhaul.

The only circumstance in which the Magpies can stay up is if Sunderland hit self-destruct and lose their final two games of the season and Newcastle manage to beat a Tottenham side who seem to have imploded.  In a Premier League season which has seen 5000/1 long shot Leicester City win the title, it still remains a possibility but more than likely, Newcastle will be facing Burton Albion next year.

It will be a sorry end to a dreadful season which has seen some of the most utterly pathetic football from a Newcastle side since our promotion to the top flight over 20 years ago.

Since Kevin Keegan’s Entertainers got promoted, along with Leicester, funnily enough, Newcastle have only been out of the top flight for one season. They bounced back straight away last time; strolling the Championship with over 100 points. Something tells me this time it won’t be so easy to return.

And where there is a glimmer of hope, still in United fans that Sunderland will choke and give us a sniff of survival on the final day, most of us are preparing for life in the second tier of English football for the second time in Mike Ashley’s ownership.

If Rafa Benitez does manage Newcastle to a famous win and Premier League survival on the final weekend, it will most probably follow him feeding the capacity of St. James’ Park with a couple fish after crossing the Tyne via foot.

The question on most fan’s lips is ‘Will Rafa stay should we go down?’ The answer, as unpopular as it may be, is probably not. For one; why would he want to exactly? He will have no problem at all getting another top flight job.

The prospect of building something from scratch with Newcastle may have a certain appeal, but can we really expect a man who was in charge of Real Madrid six months ago to lead us out in the Championship? Secondly; Newcastle can’t afford to keep him. A manager of Benitez’s calibre commands a Premier League wage.

Newcastle will have a colossal job trimming their huge wage bill as it is, to offer Benitez a deal to keep him would be way out of character for a Newcastle board who has tried to run the club on the cheap for years. Only recently has money been thrown at the club in a desperate bid to survive. The trouble was, they were so massively out of practice, that they did finally spend millions, they managed to squander most of it.

But we will leave talk of next season for another day. For now, Newcastle are still in the Premiership and still have a chance, no matter how small, of staying there. Yes they need a miracle, yes the odds are stacked against them, but one thing we can learn from Leicester is that miracles can happen. Allow yourselves one final bit of hope because all we actually need is for Sunderland to lose twice and Newcastle to win once. That, my friends, is possible.

441 thoughts on “Sunderland Win This evening Condemns Newcastle back to the Championship

  1. We’ll continue to wait for any positive developments but I’m not holding my breath. I just can’t see Rafa taking a chance and staying with us with Ashley at the top. He has probably run into his type before. Unscrupulous businessman who has an ego the size of a planet. Who would want to work for that piece of filth?

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  2. BBC One – takes a look at Sports Direct, the company that made controversial Newcastle United Football Club owner Mike Ashley his fortune – and discovers workers paid around a pound a day for a 12-hour shift making clothes to be sold in his stores.
    It has been shown clinically that many CEO’s and company heads are sociopaths. I would put Ashley in that bracket but it would take a proper study of his behavour to prove it. I can provide citations for anyone interested in the literature.

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  3. The thing about sociopaths is that it has been shown they care about nothing except money and they will do anything to get it. Anything. Ruthless behaviour is rewarded in business because it can lead to more profit for a company. Destroying people is not a problem if you have no conscience. Destroying the club is slightly more puzzling because it will lead to a loss of income for Ashley. Other factors are clearly at work here. Having earned a fortune in business Ashley wanted a plaything to show off to his few friends? I would suspect he’s more interested in sycophants and admirers than friends. Anyway it would be a fascinating study if possible. I hardly think Ashley would agree to it. I think he knows himself quite well.

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  4. Nice words from Troys bumboy

    But while there is hope Benitez may stay to lead them into next season, Pardew is convinced that whoever is in charge will need greater power.

    ‘It’s important, if it’s Rafa Benitez or the new manager, (he) gets full control of transfers,’ said the 54-year-old. ‘I think that would be something the new manager would need.

    ‘My reaction is one of sadness, for the players and the staff there and the fans, who have suffered.

    ‘They won’t enjoy the Championship although last time they had a good year in the Championship… they built some foundations and that’s what they’re going to need to do. I’m just sad, because I love that football club and I’ll always love it.

    ‘I’m very sad that it’s gone down, and I really, really hope – passionately – that this brings some change for the better.’

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  5. GeordieTwo:
    The thing about sociopaths is that it has been shown they care about nothing except money and they will do anything to get it. Anything. Ruthless behaviour is rewarded in business because it can lead to more profit for a company. Destroying people is not a problem if you have no conscience. Destroying the club is slightly more puzzling because it will lead to a loss of income for Ashley. Other factors are clearly at work here. Having earned a fortune in business Ashley wanted a plaything to show off to his few friends? I would suspect he’s more interested in sycophants and admirers than friends. Anyway it would be a fascinating study if possible. I hardly think Ashley would agree to it. I think he knows himself quite well.

    Did he not cut his parents out his life too. And after they gave him the cash to get started too.

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  6. Will we be able to beat teams like QPR and Birmingham next season? Those are going to be the real tests. The teams from the top half this season minus those that go up and plus Villa and Norwich of course. It could be a real challenge despite what Ashley is saying about a quick return to the Prem. He had better have a real plan this time, not that bollocks he served up last summer.

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  7. Why does everybody think Everton are so great???

    They played Cleverly and an 84 year old Gareth Barry in midfield against Sunderland.

    Stones and Barkley are vastly overrated.

    They don’t have a ‘keeper.

    Lukaku will be sold.

    I know they weren’t relegated but are they really any good?

    ( I am asking because all of the media think Rafa should jump at the chance of managing Everton).

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  8. They don’t have the money to ever be that good Eric. They will always struggle. But they know how to struggle near the middle of the table, not at the bottom like us.

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  9. Am I mistaken or does Mike Ashley not also have some interest in Oldham as well as Rangers?

    Surely this should be looked into to as well.

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  10. GeordieTwo:
    When you think about it what could Ashley actually say that would help? He could start with “I now realize I’m a completely hopeless knob who knows nothing about football. And to make matters worse I’ve always hired other completely hopeless knobs to work at the club until we were forced to take on Rafa. As it stands I’m too stupid to admit past mistakes and so I will continue on in the same direction until the club is in Division Two. Then I will continue on in the same direction.”

    Or maybe you could write a statement saying “I now realise I’m a completely hopeless knob who knows nothing about football. And to make matters worse I’ve always agreed with other completely hopeless knobs on the blog who pick on Ashley because he’s an easy and convenient target and I haven’t got the nouse to analyse the situation in any other way. As it stands I’m too stupid to admit this and so I will continue on in the same direction until sane people are sick of it and don’t bother coming back to the blog. Then I will continue on in the same direction.”

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  11. So I went up to the cemetery yesterday with flowers for the grave as it’s one year since Mum passed and some ****** had stolen the old heavy black glass vase that I use for fresh flowers 😡 🙁 Who steals from a grave 🙁 ❓

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  12. Sorry to hear that Kimtoon. Have you been running over black cats again?

    Went on youtube and listened to a couple of rants by True Geordie. I won’t post a link as they are very sweary. He does articulate, if that is the right word, how it has been to be a fan of NUFC for the past few years. Says he grew up in the Keegan years so he doesn’t really have the perspective that some of us who are a bit older have 🙂 Anyway, he gets himself so worked up it is difficult to see where he can go. Either his head explodes or he hits himself in the face with a frying pan. If anybody hasn’t seen him have a look at youtube, it is sort of funny.

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  13. Kim some elements of the underclass know no bounds… Sad state of affairs.

    Bris to be fair G2 has his opinion and a lot of people would agree with it. If you think differently then why not state you case for him and your theory on what’s gone wrong rather than personally attack a blog member that as far as I’m aware has levelled no vitriol at you?

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  14. I just saw that Swans are intending to rest some of their players against Man City in a game that could decide a CL spot. Are they allowed to do that? Can we rest some of our players as well please – Cisse, Gini, Sissoko? What’s that you say, they don’t need a rest, they have done nowt all season.

    Spurs will still be up for this match as they want to finish above Arsenal for the first time in over 20 years. I have mentioned this before but The **** fans have Saint Totteringham’s day which is the day when Spurs cannot mathematically catch them in the PL.

    I don’t know if I will be more upset if we play well and show what might have been or have another gutless performance like Southampton.

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  15. I mean, our game is meaningful to Arsenal. There is the money, there is the bragging rights. Are teams seeded in the CL according to where they finish in their own league? I don’t think it is right that Swans are resting players for the Euros which is what, 6 weeks away?

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  16. I don’t expect our lot to put up much of a fight against Spurs knowing that half of them will be leaving. More importantly for me is the noise the fans make in support of Rafa in an effort to get him to sign on.

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  17. Sham: Paul Merson’s giant balloon head says we have no chance of keeping Rafa, so that’s already settled.

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  18. Euros start June 10th so it is only a month. Hope Sissoko has a few games and is player of the tournament.

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  19. Eric fortunately Mersons giant balloon head is filled with hot air and alcohol vapour, not inside knowledge or a decent instinct for getting things right – so his opinion can safely be pushed to the back of queue of people’s footballing opinions that I actually listen to.

    The fact that Rafa has actually sat down with the board and laid out his terms indicates his willingness to stay. The fact that if he stays means this club’s worldwide profile and long term earning potential increases means I’m probably 75% of the Shamrock-o-meter that an agreement will be made for him to stay.

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  20. Of the ones that might leave I would only be sad to lose Perez and Townsend. I was a bit worried about Townsend cutting in all of the time but he has shown he can cross with his right foot. The Chronicle mentioned again today that he has a relegation buyout clause – of course he does, Charnley couldn’t even get that right.

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  21. We actually have someone worse than Merse over here. His name is Tommy Smith and he is like a tiny little bald leprechaun. He speaks in a broad Irish brogue and never gets anything right. He used to be the co-commentator and you could be sure that whatever he said the opposite would happen. If he said a goal was definitely offside, it would definitely be ruled onside. It would have made a good drinking game – that every time Tommy Smith got something wrong you had to take a swig – you would be drunk by half time.

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  22. It is so strange that after all the penny-pinching that they will offer Rafa 5 million a year and a helicopter to fly him to Liverpool on his days off. Have these guys been in a coma for 9 years and suddenly realise the most important person at a club is the Manager?

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  23. I also find it hilarious that Merse is the **** of jokes on Soccer Saturday. Imagine being the dunce out of that lot. I always thought it was race to the bottom of the IQ scale with them and to see who could be the most biased in favour of their former teams whilst protesting otherwise.

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  24. If someone had asked me ‘would you take relegation if it meant Ashley tore up his model and appointed a world class manager, would you take it?’ I think I’d have said yes.
    We’ve been sliding backwards for 4 seasons now, hardly a decent player signed, loads of duffers signed, and serial losers as managers. It had to end. Maybe it has.

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  25. You know when you were at school, were any of you allowed to write your own report card? Or in a job, were there annual reviews? Did you sit in a room by yourself and give yourself a B+ or did a supervisor or Manager do it?

    I am happy to report that Lee Charnley will be reviewing Lee Charnley. I predict a B+, but Cs and Ds for everybody he hired.

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  26. Shamrock. My case has been stated many times in the past. And my opinion on went wrong has been stated a few times just recently. I’ve spent most of the last 10 years on this blog arguing against lazy thinking but nothing ever changes; the level of debate is still way down at base level. I get frustrated.

    G2 has his opinion, sure, and I have my opinion of his opinion.

    Yes, I realise that my writing pisses people off and they prefer to interpret what I say negatively rather than jokingly. Seemingly it’s funny to call Ashley a knob but not a blogger. You see, when others say these sorts of things it’s called banter and when I say it it is called vitriol or sniping. Such is how the blog has gone. It’s why I don’t bother coming on too often and hardly ever read anything beyond the first page that comes up.

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  27. Bris – your above post to G2 aside, I enjoy yours & Aussies sense of humour & footballing views as it goes. They don’t fall in line with everyone else’s but surely that’s the whole point of a blog – to have & respect varying opinions.

    I actually don’t blame Ashley for this years failings – I blame Charnley & Carr. It’s up to Ashley to do something about it now mind.

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  28. Too right, Sharpy. Ashley has a lot to answer for, but this current relegation is not one of them – in my opinion. This is all about Charnley and Carr and their decisions about players and coaches.

    The first thing to do – in my opinion – is to get Rafa signed up and give him some managerial power. That’ll go a long way to fixing the mess.

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  29. I cannot say I am shocked that The Chronicle didn’t report what they knew of the dysfunctionality at NUFC, of how weak Schteve was or that they knew a whole lot more than they let on. It must have been newspaper policy in order to remain in Charnley’s and Ashley’s good graces. But who did it serve? Certainly not the fans and certainly not The Chronicle as they are now disclosing this when it doesn’t fcking matter.

    Charnley is desperately trying to hang onto a job, not his current job, because he is willing to cede all power to Rafa. Carr’s current job will not exist either. It is a strange world where someone who until recently was making 106k is offering Rafa 5 mil a year to take over most of what he does.

    Back to The Chronic – they knew what was going on and acted like the ******* we all know they are. They now look complicit in Charnley’s failings so where did it get them.

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  30. Sharpy17:
    Bris – your above post to G2 aside, I enjoy yours & Aussies sense of humour & footballing views as it goes.They don’t fall in line with everyone else’s but surely that’s the whole point of a blog – to have & respect varying opinions.

    I actually don’t blame Ashley for this years failings – I blame Charnley & Carr.It’s up to Ashley to do something about it now mind.

    Well I blame him Sharpy, he may of been hands off, but it’s his club and a blind man could see us heading for the trap door. Did it never occur to him to step in around January and tell Lee to ditch Maclaren because we were heading off a cliff. That he stood back and watched cash of that amount spent for a manager who was out his depth is staggering. Then there is that Spanish training break wtf was that all about? Did he not raise an eyebrow over that and think, blow that they should be in blighty running their arses off, we are in a fix here. Nah, he isn’t getting off scot free for me Sharpy, you can leave folk in charge, but as owner he should and could of stepped in much earlier.

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  31. Bris – I think if they go down the Rafa route, it has to be all in.

    I don’t think the bloke is a mercenary & wouldn’t make selfish demands, but he will want total control – coz if something goes wrong the buck stops with him, he gets the sack.
    I reckon he’ll want to take charge of the youth set up too & put his own trusted people in there which could see the back of Beardo.

    It’s whether Charnley is ready to make all the major changes to the clubs policies & infastructure that I reckon Rafa will want.

    According to SSN we will find out in the next 2 weeks.

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  32. Kim – I’m not saying that the bloke is totally blameless, but it’s Charnley & Carr for me.
    He owns numerous businesses & has many projects on the go I’m sure. He puts people in place to run those businesses & puts trust & faith in them to get it right. There will be good times & bad times as there is in any management role – but if he stepped in every time things were going south then what’s the point in having those managers in place.

    I’m sure Ashley spoke with Charnley through out the season – that would be natural. But ultimately Ashley allows Charnley to get on with it – BUT BUT BUT there should be consequences in his failure.

    I think Ashley was right to allow Charnley the space to perform his role. He already has a god awful reputation in football – imagine if he then becomes an owner who interferes with the running of the club – would we ever attract someone like Rafa then?.

    It’s no good employing people who can only manage when things are going good. A good leader can manage the difficult times too & Ashley had to give Charnley the space to show that – and he nearly did!!. Up until last week there was a lot of confidence we would stay up.
    But in the end, he failed & Ashley now has to address that.

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  33. Bris I understand mate and I beleieve most people value and appreciate your input to the blog. If a blogger choses to criticise a public figure then I have no issue with it because by virtue of being a public figure you put yourself in a position to be judged. Personally attacking other bloggers who have not attacked you I do not agree with. There is a way to debate without personal insults in my opinion. I don’t really fall on anybody’s side. I just say it as I see it and recently I dug my heels in defending you when you came under personal attack. It’s schoolyard stuff. Anyway I will leave it there.

    On the subject itself. From what I have seen this season MA has tried to do the right thing. He tried not interfering and released vast sums to bring about change. The question of the buying policy raises questions though. Releasing money but with very specific conditions (the kind that have not borne fruit in his last 7 years) is not really showing a real willingness to change. Who is responsible for the transfer strategy this season? There lies the blame, whoever it is.

    If he gives Rafa total control and decent funds then I’m willing to give him some slack. If he sticks to the same failed model then he deserves it with both barrels IMO.

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  34. Watching the press conference now, sounds very positive. Looks like he wants to stay, if the board and owner have any sense, give him what he wants and he will take us back up and go on to further success

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  35. It is time for Ashley to step in. 2 weeks means Rafa will be thinking about other offers. He is talking to the man who he will take a lot of his responsibilities off. That must seem strange.

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  36. Hull 2-0 up. Hopefully they get promoted. Brucie is really piling on the pounds.

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  37. Brisvegas:
    That’s a long time to keep my fingers crossed. irtmakses ryping ir hard

    😆 😉 just watched Rafas interviews & he’s making all the right noises. Balls in NUFC court I reckon – though it could depend heavily on other offers on Rafas table in the next 2 weeks.

    I have to be honest, I struggle to see Rafa giving a team talk in the Burton Albion away changing rooms like.

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  38. Fair enough, Sham. No problems.

    One thing you said intrigued me … “and recently I dug my heels in defending you when you came under personal attack.”

    When did that happen? Thanks for whatever you said in my defence, though. It’s nice to know I’m being talked about. Maybe I should read other pages than the front page. It’s a pity I missed it.

    oh, or are you talking about the FF thing? That was hardly an attack, more like being slapped with a wet lettuce.

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  39. Eric Sykes:
    It is time for Ashley to step in. 2 weeks means Rafa will be thinking about other offers. He is talking to the man who he will take a lot of his responsibilities off. That must seem strange.

    Eric – I disagree to an extent mate. I think if Ashley believes Rafa is the right way to go, then he should make that know to both Charnley & Rafa – then he should allow Charnley to get it done.

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  40. Ashley is a strange one though Sharpy. We don’t even know if he has talked to Rafa yet. Remember Schteve saying he had never talked to Ashley personally?

    Ashley wrote that open letter yesterday and even though it basically said nothing it at least showed he was getting involved. My issue is with the man making 150k a year hiring the man making 33 times his salary. YES, 33 TIMES HIS SALARY (5 mil). And taking over most of the job he had until he utterly and publicly failed at it.

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  41. Kim I agree with you and G2 regarding Mike Ashley. He should stepped in much sooner. He is the boss at the end of the day. He hired Lee Charnley and Graham Carr. McClaren was a very poor choice on Graham Carr’s part. Keeping Colocini was the just plain stupid. His defensive displays cost us dearly. McClaren was weak for not dropping him. McClaren should of been sacked sooner but Ashley was reluctant to pay McClaren his compensation package. Ashley gave Graham Carr the main say on transfers over a head coach which should not happen.

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  42. If I am Rafa I am in these negotiations knowing that Charnley is on 150k and that the going rate for a good Assistant Manager and Chief Scout that I would want would be at least double that. So, the Director and until recently head honcho will be paid less than quite a few members of the staff and we are in a lower division where NUFC will be paying probably 2 or 3 times the rate that other clubs are, and 10 times for Rafa. It just doesn’t make sense.

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  43. 😥 I blame Ashley’s mother. If she hadn’t sex all this wouldn’t have happened. And, oh lets pick a thought bubble out of the air and present it as fact. If he hadn’t been so stubborn in … o what the hell.

    I’d better go before I get into trouble again.

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  44. Actually, at the moment it is not negotiations, it is Charnley begging for his job. I won’t be surprised to see it went something like this “Yes, Rafa, that’s 5 mil a year, a helicopter, two bags of gold bullion buried in a secret location in the Caymen Islands and my wife is in the bedroom for your pleasure. Anything else, Sir. I mean Senor. Is that too presumption of me to speak to you that way Sir”.

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  45. There was a bit more than just the that FF reference Bris, however it’s all done and dusted now to be fair. 😛

    Well I predict we finish top of the Championship no matter who the manager is, but no Rafa and we flirt with relegation again the year after – with Rafa we go on to be regular Top 10.

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  46. Sham: they are talking big money now though, so Moyes, Brendan and quite a few others are in our price bracket.

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  47. Eric Sykes:
    Ashley is a strange one though Sharpy. We don’t even know if he has talked to Rafa yet. Remember Schteve saying he had never talked to Ashley personally?

    Ashley wrote that open letter yesterday and even though it basically said nothing it at least showed he was getting involved. My issue is with the man making 150k a year hiring the man making 33 times his salary. YES, 33 TIMES HIS SALARY (5 mil). And taking over most of the job he had until he utterly and publicly failed at it.

    Eric – I don’t believe Mc did ever speak with Ashley & I hope Rafa has never spoke with Ashley either. That might sound strange, but the way I see it Ashley owns the club, but Charnley runs it. There should be no reason for Ashley to speak with any manager – unless to exchange pleasantries. I wouldn’t want those lines to get blurred personally. Ashley should give his backing, then leave it to Charnley – unless Charnley asks for help or advice.

    With regards to the salary. I would imagine that in most clubs the manager would be the higher paid of the 2 roles – all at this level but maybe not as much as 33 times.
    But to put a different perspective on it – David Cameron is paid £143k per year, so Charnley is getting the standard wage for **** ups 😉

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  48. When Cameron leaves office he can write his own ticket like Blair did. I think Blair’s net worth is like 50 million now. There are always other ways that “Businessmen” funnel money to politicians as well but we wont get into that.

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  49. Eric – actually you probably make a valid point. I have no idea what CEOs of football clubs get paid so went looking. Iain Ayre of Lpool paid himself £1.2m – but the scousers went off it when they found out & I think that’s why he left.
    So I checked with the Scum, thinking they are a similar size club in a similar league position.
    Ellis Short santioned a pay rise of £130k for their CEO – increasing their salary to £663k …. and in return she protected a sex offender 😳

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  50. Enough comparisons with the Scum Sharpy!!

    Rafa’s presser did sound quite positive but he is talking about it taking 2 weeks. He’s not in a hurry but I understand it took longer than that to agree for him to come in the first place.
    However, 2 weeks takes us into June – not too long before players begin pre season. If he suddenly says no we’ll be in a godawful hurry to find someone else.

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  51. My main concern is they make promises then fail to keep them just like with KK when he came back.

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  52. Georgio:
    Enough comparisons with the Scum Sharpy!!

    Rafa’s presser did sound quite positive but he is talking about it taking 2 weeks. He’s not in a hurry but I understand it took longer than that to agree for him to come in the first place.
    However, 2 weeks takes us into June – not too long before players begin pre season. If he suddenly says no we’ll be in a godawful hurry to find someone else.

    But that’s our default status Georgio, always leaving it to the last minute.

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  53. Don’t forget they were having talks with big Al last time we dropped then suddenly stopped talking to him by all accounts according to him. Next thing we know Hoots is in charge. Worked out well that time but no certainty we’d get that lucky again.

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  54. Georgio – I can live with that mate. I think we put all our resources into keeping Rafa & work on it til whatever end.
    If it’s a no then there will always be a Pearson, Rodgers, Martinez or Moyes type manager still looking for a club. One of those shouldn’t be too difficult to get in I reckon – we convinced Rafa into a relegation battle after all.

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  55. Good one Brisvegas! I just read your comment. Very informative mate. Keep up the good work. It’s not like the rest of us should have the right to an opinion or anything. But please do carry on. I doubt you’ll read this as our time zones are fairly far apart. I have to say I really don’t get most of your posts but I definitely got that one. All the best to you and your Ashley love affair. And if you think he’s a great owner please tell us why. It can’t be a performance based thing I wouldn’t think but who knows? You tell us.

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  56. Make no mistake about it the transfer policy we have used is down to Ashley. So look to him for somebody to blame. Nobody else but this owner can set the policy. As others have said it hasn’t changed but the other executives have.

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  57. I’m happy to defend anyone on here against personal attacks including you Brisvegas. Your opinions are always welcome as far as I’m concerned. I like to see some facts to back up arguments. I can and have presented a lot of them on here. We can look at our position in the league table for example.

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  58. G2 who hired Lee Charnley and Graham Carr I wonder. Oh wait it was Mike Ashley. So his responsible at the end of the day. I’m pissed off that we are relegated but saying it has nothing to do with Ashley is just plain fucking dumb. He could see us struggling last season and did nothing. He did nothing this season as well. He is responsible for the board that he picked. I could say more mate but his a total scum bag who I wish would sell up.

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  59. Thinking about it “up to 2 weeks” is a reasonable time frame. Rafa would have to submit names for who he would want at the Academy, U21s, scouting etc. I think, anyway. When Charnley sees how much he will have to pay them he will **** his pants, then ask for a raise from Ashley when he is in the worst negotiation position in the history of football – “hey Mike, how about a few extra shekels for your mate Pansfold? I know I got us relegated and spent 12 mil on Thauvin, but c’mon I’m starving here. Don’t let this quadruple chin fool you”.

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  60. Thought it sounded positive through the press conference, but as been said, 2 weeks isn’t a long time if he gets what he thinks is needed. This could be what turns the club around if they give what is asked for. Shame had to be relegated and not able to be done by just staying up, but if it comes off, could be a great future for the club and us.
    Just hope 10 years down the line we are 9 years into premier league future with a cup and always top 10 chalangers with Rafa still in charge with another internal coach getting built up and ready before Rafa moves into an upstairs role a few years later

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  61. Eric Sykes:
    Thinking about it “up to 2 weeks” is a reasonable time frame. Rafa would have to submit names for who he would want at the Academy, U21s, scouting etc. I think, anyway. When Charnley sees how much he will have to pay them he will **** his pants, then ask for a raise from Ashley when he is in the worst negotiation position in the history of football – “hey Mike, how about a few extra shekels for your mate Pansfold? I know I got us relegated and spent 12 mil on Thauvin, but c’mon I’m starving here. Don’t let this quadruple chin fool you”.

    Eric , I am certain Lee has just gotten a pay rise, sure I read it the other day like. I will have a hunt to see if I can find it.

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