A frustrating end to what was a pretty flat performance from a Newcastle perspective, with an 83rd minute header from Ahmed Elmohamady cancelling out a second half strike from Dwight Gayle.
Bruce named an unchanged side from Sunday’s win over Sheffield United, something that divided opinion on Tyneside given we have our biggest game of the season on Sunday – an FA Cup quarter final against Man City.
It made sense in some respects to keep the momentum going and improve our match fitness, but we tired pretty early in this one and were punished in the end.
Villa started pretty positively and were the better side in the opening 10 minutes, with them going close through Trezeguet – who bobbled an unmarked strike at the back post over the bar after getting away from Manquillo.
That was our warning sign, with us switching off at the back and looking slow, slack and half asleep early on, however another big arrived for the visitors 15 minutes in. This time it was Samatta who headed a big chance wide after getting in between our centre-halves. Lascelles did just about enough to put him off, but a Villa goal was coming if we didn’t wake up.
Villa’s chances dried up, aside from a McGinn header at the front post, but it was an extremely flat first half from ourselves – until we burst into life over the final 10 minutes of the half.
First we came close via Joelinton, who skipped past Mings with a clever step over and quick burst, but the England centre-back recovered brilliantly to block his goal-bound effort.
Saint-Maximin then burst through the middle moments later and had a shot well blocked from the edge of the box, but we went into the break at 0-0.
A decent end to a flat first half, but it was a very poor 45 minutes from our perspective.
The second half started in similar fashion, only this time Villa weren’t creating.
Saint-Maximin gave us a few moments of magic (see above!) and Joelinton looked more confident, going on one impressive driiving run down the left, but we looked tired and lacking in energy or ideas.
Soon after the hour mark, Bruce made a few much needed changes, taking off Ritchie (who looked to have picked up a knock) and Joelinton for Gayle and Carroll – and the oncoming duo combined immediately to give us a 1-0 lead.
It was a brilliant bit of vision and ball inside from Carroll, and Gayle finished well, getting the ball onto his favoured foot and slotting past Nyland. 1-0 and an unlikely lead based on our first-half performance.
Our lack of energy was still evident, however. It looked at one stage like we could limp over the line and secure another big three points at St James’ Park, but a rare mistake from Martin Dubravka gave Villa a route back into it, with him diving over an Elmohamady header.
A rare mistake from our player of the season, but it was poor defending from all involved and a Villa goal that had been coming all evening, if we’re being honest.
We then lost Isaac Hayden to a suspected injury and couldn’t get out of our own half late on, with Villa making several changes and ending the game strongly.
A disappointing performance, but we’ve done well to get 4 points in as many days and can possibly count ourselves lucky we got a draw here.
A promising cameo from Andy Carroll, another impressive display from Saint-Maximin and one more point on the board.
Next up, Man City on Sunday in the quarter final of the FA Cup!
Has anybody looked at our fixtures and the bottom of the table? Villa today and Bournemouth, Watford and West Ham soon. We could have a big bearing on who goes down.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Was wrong about Bruce making changes, but I think today proved he should have.
We looked leggy from the off and knackered from 50/60 mins on. Hayden and Ritchie also picking up injuries as I feared if he went with an unchanged side.
Done well to get a point in the end as Villa could’ve easily won that!
Onto Sunday we go – just hope injuries aren’t bad and ASM is ok for Sunday as he ran himself into the ground!
Olly Hawkins(Quote)
Fernandez has done well for us but he does give away a lot of corners, some needless IMHO. Shouldn’t be a problem against City as they take them short but maybe time for more mobility in that game with Schar?
Will have to wait and see how Ritchie and Hayden are.
I have no idea how to set up against City and we probably need to have Dubravka make up for today’s error and play a blinder.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Sorry guys, however “Brilliant” Dubravka’s shot stopping abilities are, there’s no mistaking or glossing over the number of basic errors he makes.
He’s the first goalkeeper we’ve ever had who consistently comes out for high balls – which is excellent and commendable – but he Keeps Costing Us Points, game after every 3rd or 4th game.
Happy to defend my position here, as I am a 59 year old ex-keeper, who has played up to a decent Northern League semi-pro standard, so I understand ‘Keepers’angles, lack of concentration and pressure of decision making etc. etc.
Oh and before I possibly get the “it’s a faster and different game now”, I was still playing over 35s Top division 11 a side as recently as 4 years ago. Throw in a FIFA “C” coaching licence and maybe some born and bred Geordies like me, may accept my comments and expression of frustration at losing another 2 points as genuine concern, rather than just a slanging off rant at an individual player.
Kevin(Quote)
At the start of the season using the scientific method of alphabetical order I predicted we would finish 14th. I see no reason to change my mind. I see probably 5 more points given our run-in so we end up on 44. That’s 1 win (probably West Ham) and a couple of draws. We have 2 almost certain defeats – Liverpool and City – and the others we could get points from but we are not good enough to get enough to make top 10.
One 3-0 win against a 10 men and slumping Sheffield Utd does not hide the fact we usually score 1 goal per game. All I ask for the rest of the season is a bit of entertainment and hopefully to not get slaughtered by the red bindippers on their victory lap. At least there wont be any of their fans at SJP. That would be unbearable.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I dont want to open a whole Rafa can of worms but if my prediction is right then our 3 PL finishes will be:
Bruce 14th 44 points
Rafa 13th 45 points
Rafa 10th 44 points
Of course a lot of pundits had us relegated before a ball was kicked and David Thompson, a nobody ex-Liverpool player (40 odd games), said we had a worse squad than Norwich only this week.
The record shows we have a lower mid-table squad. How many we will/should keep after the takeover I dont know but you cant change the whole team. That’s what Villa did with a few exceptions and spent 140 million on it.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
All we need is a top striker, a good striker and a tricky CM. Defensively we are not bad and the wings are ok with Ritchie, Might and Maxim. We just don’t have the imagination and flair in the middle to create opportunities, whilst our striking options are totally naff – possibly the worst in the league. Get those 3 deals done and we are a top 8 side next season.
Shamrock(Quote)
SHAM i agree and imo Shelvey is one of the lazy play when i want to play he wants replaced,sell him to West Ham they seem to want him and hes just bought a house down there near their ground,maybe thats what he want,doesnt want get injured and stop the move
icedog(Quote)
What on Earth is taking the PL so long to sort this takeover out ffs?! Do they realise if they reject it they won’t solve the piracy and they can never expect to improve their broadcasting revenue in that area by essentially saying the Saudi’s van never bid for it. BeIN will just reduce their price and so will everyone else knowing the Saudi’s aren’t in for it.
Then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if they PL rejected this and then expected the Saudi’s to offer for the broadcasts rights.
Stuart79(Quote)
Me neither Stu. It is taking a long time, too long and imo it doesn’t look good.
kimtoon(Quote)
He’s not perfect but one of the best in this league imo and but for him we’d be bottom 3 now without a doubt.
Considering who owns us, he’s the best we’re gonna get.
kimtoon(Quote)
Bit hard on Dubs. Shelvey lifts his foot to the ball and obscures Dubs view. Shelvey should really have cleared the ball. Bruce waits until players are injured before making subs. Some manager. Did Mings actually touch the ball?
Groucho(Quote)
Yep, Shelvey just as culpable for that goal as Dubs.
kimtoon(Quote)
Very disappointing result but the hot weather and Villa’s desperation did make it difficult. Were we tired after sunday? Shouldn’t be but heat does take it’s toll. Maybe it’s safety already.
Defeat coming up against City.
georgio(Quote)
Kev – I’m not sure what site you are used to posting on, but we don’t require CVs on this site mate ?.
Dubravka has flaws and imo he was at fault for the goal last night. But take Alison and Ederson our of it and tell me a keeper in the league who is so much better than Dubravka – De Gea, Leno, Kepa, Schmichael, Lloris all have ricks in them.
When you consider how much we paid for him, and how many points he has saved us – he’s a top keeper.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Groucho – if you asked Dubravka, I think he’d be disappointed with not saving that regardless of Shelvey. He should have saved that.
As for Bruce only making changing when players were injured – Joelinton wasn’t injured when he put Carroll on.
Ritchie and Hayden were 2 of our best players last night – why would you take off your best players in a game that tight – unless you expect him to predict a player will get injured ??♂️.
Hayden pretty much stopped Grealish playing last night – he totally nullified his threat and it’s no coincidence he came into the game when Hayden went off – he’d have been mad to take Hayden off.
Ritchie was a real threat down the left and linked up well with Rose.
It was unfortunate but let’s hope the injuries aren’t too bad.
‘Some manager’ has us safe with 7-8 games to spare.
Sharpy17(Quote)
The reason Dubravka is at NUFC is because he has mistakes in him and quite a few. He wins us plenty of points but also costs us too.
Stuart79(Quote)
Given the heat and this was only our second game I still think Bruce should be more proactive with his subs. Compared to many teams we seem to be reluctant to use subs and as well as Hayden was playing and Ritchie it is necessary to balance that against possibly losing a player long time. It is the easy decision to keep on the field your best players.
Groucho(Quote)
It was very hot and only our second game. As well as Hayden and Ritchie were playing I still would like to see Bruce being more proactive with his substitutions. It often seems to me we are often behind other teams when making subs and I think that it is the easy way out to keep your best players on the pitch at all times. But it is your best players you don’t want to lose to long term injuries.
Groucho(Quote)
Sorry for double posting. First one from my iPad disappeared into the ether. Second one also disappeared. What’s going on? I didn’t add the bad after Sharpy either. Got too much respect for posters on here to do that. Interesting thing about football is that we are so diverse in our views.
Groucho(Quote)
My post were going awol as well mate, issues with this site getting worse .
kimtoon(Quote)
Manquillo signs up for another 4 years, nice one, i like him a lot.
I assume it’s been ok’d by our new owners ?
kimtoon(Quote)
? not to worry mate, I’ve been accused of a lot worse ?.
It’s a difficult one because Hayden in particular was playing so well. He had Grealish in his pocket. If Bruce took a fit Hayden off to rest him and Grealish then took hold of the game and influenced the win for Villa, I guarantee people would be asking what the hell he was thinking.
I think if he wanted to rest Hayden then he shouldn’t have played him from the start. But having started him and seeing how he was stopping Grealish, I understand keeping him on.
I’m a huge fan of Hayden. I think he’s such an unsung hero in our team. He’s such an affective player and rarely gets the credit he deserves.
Hopefully he’s not too badly injured, but I’m pretty sure if Bruce thought for a second he might get a knock, he would have subbed him sooner.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Kim – that’s excellent news, I think he’s been excellent this season. I think he’s a right back in a back 3 rather than a wing back in a back 5, but he’s certainly proven to be better than Kraft – and more often than not Yedlin as well this season.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Why has Sir Kier Starmer sacked Rebecca Long Bailey for sharing an interview with a celebrity luvvie (who has no idea about real life btw) Just because said Luvvie reckons the US police learnt the tactic of leaning on a neck on someone off the Israeli secret services? How on Earth is that anti Semitic?
Stuart79(Quote)
Sharpy do you think Shelvey should have been pulled.?
Groucho(Quote)
Thought a lot of the players looked very leggy and tired yesterday, understandable given two games so close after restart and the heat.
Shelvey seems to have one good game in 3, looked slow yesterday and Miggy not his normal self either.
Still 4 points from our first two is pretty good.
kimtoon(Quote)
Groucho – I don’t think Shelvey played very well last night, but looking at our bench there was only Bentalab for central midfield & I can’t say I’ve been too impressed with him – or Lazaro for that matter. It’s difficult coz both only came in Jan and it’s been a stupid season for them to settle in.
I know the Longstaff boys are injured, but I don’t get having Carroll, Gayle and Muto on the bench – or 2 right backs (Yedlin & Kraft). Why not stick Barlaser or Scott or one of the young uns on the bench now we are effectively safe.
In short mate, if there was better options on the bench then yeah, I’d have taken Shelvey off coz he wasn’t very effective last night.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Disappointed to see the club have left Victor Fernandez go. I saw him a few times in the U23s and he looked very good.
It really bothers me just how many players we have let go and not developed through the ranks.
It’s a result of lack of investment from Ashley but there’s a real irony from a man who wants to buy small, sell big. If I was a young local lad, I can’t say I’d be picking the Newcastle academy like. Other than the Longstaffs boys – and even one of those has a foot out the door – who are we bringing through?.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I’m feeling very sure that wor Joe will get to 3 league goals this season! ….. well errm fairly certain…. it’s a distinct possibility! It could happen! ….. oh all right then it’s not very likely is it?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
This takeover thingy is moving along nicely now. Gaining pace possibly. Picking up momentum. It’s nearly done lads! I’m starting to hold my breath…… Now!!!
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Sharpy I think Barlaser is not in the squad so can’t be selected but I agree with the imbalance with the bench. I also agree about Fernandez and our approach to developing youth. We didn’t persevere with Toney or Mbabu.
Groucho(Quote)
Groucho – sorry you’re right. For some reason I thought teams resubmitted their squads to account for players returning from loans and who’s contracts will have expired and won’t play – but having checked that’s not the case.
I guess that highlights Bruceys lack of options then, and maybe why he held off making the change in midfield until he was forced to ??♂️.
We’ve let Jamie Sterry go too, and I thought he had promise as well – certainly enough to not need to go get Kraft.
Sharpy17(Quote)
congratulations LIVERPOOL, very well deserved.
kimtoon(Quote)
I watched Liverpool against Palace and I have never seen such a one sided game in my life. I am serious. Palace hardly ever got out of their own half. They did not have a single touch in the Liverpool box.
Liverpool play a better style of football than Man City so I am glad for them. They were playing the high press but it was to win the ball back and start again. Man City are great but it annoys me that they deliberately foul to stop counters.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
City have now lost 8 Premier League games out of 31. Do we have a chance?
Better get this Saudi money in soon because Chelsea have a very good team now with their new signings and Fernandez has given Man U a buzz along with their youngsters. If Pogba can get his head on straight they may even overtake Leicester for top 4 this year.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Rob Elliott’s words on leaving were lovely.
Shamrock(Quote)
Listening to Supermac on Steve Wraith’s channel and he is ranting that it was lack of application that caused the draw against Villa. He said look at the league table and see where Villa is, we should be doing better against a team like that.
Sorry Mal, WE are also a team like that. They have 27 points and without a ton of luck and Dubravka that is where we SHOULD be. They spent 140 million and some of it must have been wasted but there is not too much between the squads.
To say that the 12 point gap between us and Villa is representative of our respective squads football quality and potential is absolute nonsense. Sometimes the table does lie. It did for about 5 years with the Mackems until they plummeted into oblivion.
All that said, Villa’s run in is a nightmare and they will probably go down. our game was a must win and you saw that in the last 10 minutes. That was the difference They needed it more than us and it showed. Now I think they are down.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
There was quite a funny line on Wraith’s show. Someone said they were hoovering during the game, bumped the telly and Jack Grealish fell over.
80 million is ridiculous for him. Brucie managed it quite well as he knows him and must have drilled into the players to stand off because there weren’t as many falls as usual.
The player I would take from them is Douglas Luiz. Hoping they go down and we have new money to put a bid in. There will be competition though.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I was listening to a podcast the other day and it was said that Dubravka tops the list of internationals who have made errors since the last world cup.
I thought: Surely that can’t be right. And then I thought: did Slovakia even play at the world cup? (though I suppose the guy didn’t say anything about the internationals AT the world cup, just SINCE the world cup?) And then I thought: so, do they monitor ALL internationals everywhere in the world? And finally decided it was such a bizarre statement that it was worthless.
Congrats to Liverpool. Best team in the league by a country mile. Possibly the best team in the world at the moment.
Brisvegas(Quote)
What the hell was that on Bournemouth Beach and it is not even the weekend?
Chicago and NY are gradually opening up because they got hit hard and early and their Governors reacted properly. However, the most populous states hadnt really even seen a 1st wave and unfortunately two are where a lot of retirees are – FL and AZ. You will see some horrendous numbers and headlines coming for the US in the next 2 weeks as their cases are spiking. That will inevitably be followed by deaths. Just warning you because I know there is a lot of US news in the UK and the financial crisis fears will probably get worse again which is not good for getting people back to work on both sides of the Atlantic.
California seemed to reopen too early so I am bit worried about Britain after the beach pictures.
Still have family in the UK including my 78 year old mother so I hope people will not be stupid.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Oh they will be Eric.
It’s a combination of things that caused that yesterday, The extreme heat and the fact that we rarely get such hot days so folk want to enjoy it. Being locked up for weeks in the sunny weather that we’ve had and seeing summer pass us by.
The relaxing of lockdown rules with confused unclear instructions and the ending of daily updates is making a lot of people think we’re back to normal.
The mass protest that were allowed to happen.
The one rule for us and one for you (see Demonic Cummings )
Not being able to take a holiday here so taking advantage of day trips instead
And a whole ton of ignorance or couldn’t give a fig as to the fact that it isn’t gone away.
A second wave is inevitable now sadly, the R rate will rise and we’ll be right back where we started except this time they will go for herd immunity i’d imagine as we cannot afford to lockdown all over and throw more cash at it.
I would imagine by the time flu season hits us it’ll be chaos here. It was bad enough with swine flu and that was nowt compared to this, though it nearly killed my boy.
Total idiots on those beaches, when their nearest and dearest start dropping i hope they remember that day on the beach sweating all over each other. Hope it was worth it, at least the protesters wore mask even though that was just as dumb, albeit a noble cause.
kimtoon(Quote)
When is this blog going to fix the posting problem? Tiresome!
Kim – insane behavior on the beaches. Sounds like England . . .
Stu – for once I agree. Sacking someone for drawing attention to what the Israel secret service does. How is that anti semitic? However Starmer is determined to address the issue (and get rid of rivals).
georgio(Quote)
I am pretty sure what Bruce will go with and it will be a 4-3-3. But in name and numbers only as we will be pinned back most of the time. We need a 3 man midfield and we need a striker . But our wingers in the front 3 will have to double as extra wingbacks/defenders. Miggy can do this and St Max will be needed to do it as well.
My only question is who will be the striker/outlet?
IT WILL NOT BE JOE.
So either Andy or Dwight. I tossed a coin and got Andy.
Dubravka
Manquillo Lascelles Fernandez Rose
Hayden Shelvey Bentaleb
St Max Amiron
Carroll
Eric Sykes(Quote)
SET PIECES!
That’s why it will be Andy Carroll. We will have very few chances and they have pretty **** defenders so give them something different to think about.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – watching the game last night and the City defenders didn’t handle Willian and Pulisic running at them at all.
I’d play Hayden and Bentalab as holding midfielders protecting the 4 defenders, and Carroll as the target man – put him on Laporte.
Then I’d have ASM, Gayle and Almiron with all their pace around Carroll and have them run at City.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Chelsea were excellent last night. Mason Mount in particular chased everything down. He wasn’t much of an offensive threat – not as much as Willian or Pulisic, but he closed all of City’s defenders down and give them no time on the ball.
I’d encourage Almiron to do that for us at the weekend. The one thing he’s got in abundance is energy.
Gayle & Max can trouble them with their pace and if Carroll can keep Laporte busy we have a very slim chance. Hayden to pick De Bryne as he did Grealish.
But the fact City lost the league last night, and will have to give Lpool a guard of honour after playing us – that might just p!ss them off a bit, and we might end up taking the brunt of it.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I also think that unless City buy another forward and 2 CBs, they won’t win the league again next season.
Aguero has been brilliant, but he’s getting old to do the job Pep needs and needs a replacement – Jesus is decent, but he’s second choice.
John Stones and Otamendi aren’t good enough, and Fernandinho is not a CB – he’s a good player but he’s not the CB they need.
I see Liverpool being favourites again and Chelsea & Man Utd pulling closer to City – depending on their recruitment.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I think there will be a top 4 of Lpool, Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd – then behind them will be Leicester, Wolves, Arsenal and Spurs.
If we get our new owners, I think we need to be targeting that second group to start with.
I think it would be a good few seasons before we can get close to those top 4 sides.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Yeah, lovely goodbye message from an honest pro .
kimtoon(Quote)
Stu, I don’t think Sir Keir can win really, sack her and he’s wrong, keep her and he he’s wrong depending on your stance.
The Labour party has had the antisemitism tag thrown at them for ages so i can understand him taking the action he did in a way.
kimtoon(Quote)
Mike Ashley’s retail empire tops HMRC ‘hit list’ in investigation into complaints over ‘abuse of furlough scheme’ from staff
Tax officials vow to take ‘criminal action against the most serious cases’ after receiving almost 4,000 complaints
Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC) is considering a number of complaints made against Mr Ashley’s Frasers Group, which includes House of Fraser, Sports Direct and Evans Cycles, from staff that allege they were asked to work while on furlough. If proven this would be a breach of the Government’s Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme rules.
An HMRC source told i Mr Ashley was one of the names at the top of what he called a “hit list”, and that a number of other household names were also being looked into.
The HMRC source added: “We’re already looking into whether we can claw back some Covid cash from them. If there’s any way we can, we will.
Oh dear, please take this lying s hite away from us.
kimtoon(Quote)
Chelsea are going to be scary up front now after adding Werner and the lad from Ajax, forgot his name.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I hate predicting that we will lose. Lawro predicts 0-3 and my guess is that is about what most will expect. You can get at that City defense, if you can get the ball 🙂 It will be a long night and I reckon they will have about 80% possession. Even if we hold them it will probably be a boring watch. For all their brilliant players I find them hard to watch against the lesser teams like us. They are only interesting against teams that can challenge them.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Man City have the chance to do the treble. They have already won the League Cup. They will probably beat us on Sunday and probably only have to get past Man U to win the FA Cup.
I reckon they have a good shot at the Champions League even with their defense. Nobody is really firing on all cylinders of the remaining teams and with Liverpool out the path is clear.
I think I would like Man City to win that treble. It would be a poke in the eye to Man U and their obsession with 1999. It was 21 years ago guys! Also, after 30 years of waiting the red bin dippers (fans and pundits) are going to be unbearable so Pep stealing some of their thunder would be funny.
I like Klopp and will give Kenny his day in the sun but the rest of them are not going to shut up for weeks are they. Yer Danny Murphys and Phil Thomsons are hard to take at the best of times.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Alan Nixon of The Sun is saying the hold up of NUFC takeover is because the PL want the Saudis to say they will bid for PL rights. What a load of B0llocks. If there was even a whiff of a verbal quid pro quo the PL are just asking for a lawsuit if they block the deal. The human rights record should not even come into it either and this journo is talking out of his ****.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
And even more b0llocks this time from Jamal Khashoggi’s fiancee saying she is sure the PL will block the bid. What does she know? She sent them a couple of letters about information that was already public. They refused to meet with her. Mohamad Bin Said denies involvement in the killing and nothing has been proved so there really is no hard evidence against him. The UK Govt has said they are staying out of it. She knows about as much about the inner workings of the PL as I do, which is next to nothing, and I probably know more about the owners and directors test than she does.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
You can have as much DESERVED righteous outrage as you want, it will not affect what Govts and greedy institutions like the PL do. The PL want a rights deal with the Saudis in the next go round or at least a bid to rival Qatar. The UK and US Govts dont want to imperil their arms deals. The G20 summit is in Saudi next FFS.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Dr Rosena Allin-Khan
@DrRosena
Yesterday,
@Keir_Starmer
@JonAshworth
@leicesterliz
and I, brought a motion to Parliament calling on the Government to introduce weekly testing of NHS and care staff.
331 Conservative MPs voted against it, even though they spent many Thursdays clapping for care
kimtoon(Quote)
Can anybody with any resemblance of being fixed to the real world explain to me how academic Dr Priyamvada Gopal can Tweet ‘White Lives Don’t Matter’.
‘Now we have the opportunity to carry out a resolute offensive against the white, break their resistance, eliminate them as a class and replace their livelihoods with the livelihoods of people of colour and LGBTQ“ and not lose their job in the current climate? Is it because she’s not white ? Is that why she can get away with it?
This is yet another example of why there is going to be a serious and long lasting effect and backlash from white people. White people who genuinely aren’t racist but see things like this, like statues being ripped down, like parties in Brixton attended by majority black people where police are injured and virtually nothing happens to them and when a white person gets sacked for arranging a “white lives matter” banner over a football match.
It looks very much to me like we are already in a very dangerous place. Where there is different rules for white people than there are for black people. This is stoking division. We need somebody to get a grip of this before it gets out of hand.
Equality is equality – not when it suits.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu, it’s a given that white lives matter, the black lives matter statement is to say, hey look at us we matter too. It’s really not hard to understand.
Whilst i don’t agree with her statement it should not detract from the real meaning of BLM.
Nice deflection of my post about tory MP’s i put up just before it though 😉
kimtoon(Quote)
Tory ministers and their family members getting tested when ever they want but no weekly test for medical key workers, hmm, where’s this equality you talk of.
kimtoon(Quote)
They saved his life, sat by his bed 24/7 and he won’t sanction a weekly test and they won’t pay student nurses because they “don’t provide a service ” !
So who was that stepping into the breach putting their lives on the line ?
Scotch mist i guess.
No more daily updates, no awkward questions to answer, welcome to Tory rule.
kimtoon(Quote)
They won’t test because they haven’t got the capacity to cover it and they don’t want to cover the cost.
When Matt handjob was asked when have we ever tested 100,000 he simply said he didn’t have that data ! Why not ? isn’t he the health minister ?
That’s what the lives of medics and carers are worth, shocking but not surprising from this lot.
kimtoon(Quote)
Prof Gopal later confirmed that the tweet had been deleted by Twitter, but said she stood by it as it was about “structure and ideology” rather than people.
She wrote: “I would also like to make clear I stand by my tweets, now deleted by Twitter, not me.
“They were very clearly speaking to a structure and ideology, not about people. My Tweet said whiteness is not special, not a criterion for making lives matter. I stand by that.”
She is now receiving death threats by the way.
Don’t engage her in debate just threaten to murder her, wow stay classy people.
Look at this gem
“Why would you want to abolish whiteness anyway, we’ve given you everything you own, without us you’d still be chasing Bush meat with a blowpipe.”
Appalling,
Don’t tell me there’s no racist in this country.
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – The tories voting against the weekly testing sounds bad, but to put it into context – where do you stop?. NHS and care staff have the same access to testing as anyone else and can be tested whenever they need to be. To do it weekly would inevitably waste a lot of tests unnecessarily. What about the other key workers?. Ambulance staff, Police, Fire – everyone who have kept the pharmacies and supermarkets/shops open throughout all of this.
The police in particular have been put in the middle of protests and mass gatherings regularly over the last few weeks.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for protecting our NHS staff and care workers – my mother in law and niece both work in a care home. But I’m not in favour of wasting tests.
As for the Dr and her tweet. Absolutely disgusting and she should be struck off!!. The lad that flew the banner over the Burnley game – he and his girlfriend got sacked from their jobs. Should the Dr get treated differently because she is Asian?. In actual fact, her tweet is considerably worse as she is arguably inciting hatred – saying someone’s life DOESNT matter is far worse than saying someone’s life DOES matter.
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Kim – I’ll quickly add to my first point – I think they have made a right balls up with the handling of this lockdown and lifting of it. But that won’t be fixed giving NHS staff and carers weekly tests.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy, it’s all medical key workers so ambulance staff covered too i assume. These people are on the frontline exposed to high levels of covid and the worry is that many are asymptomatic and unknowingly spreading it.
If you were admitted to hospital for an non covid related incident you would want the reassurance that staff treating you were highly likely covid free i assume? you only get that reassurance by testing.
Also for them to say student nurses don’t provide a service as an excuse not to pay them is disgusting .
As for the doctors tweet, she could/should of explained what she meant better in her original tweet.
Does she deserve death threats for it , absolutely not .
kimtoon(Quote)
Sharpy, i know several keyworkers who have had trouble getting a test and when they get it waited over 2 weeks for the result ! By then they have self isolated for the two weeks anyway which meant the loss of staff who might not of been positive . Daft situation all round .
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – if there was evidence that the majority of people who catch COVID catch it in hospitals or care homes I’d agree, but to my knowledge there is no evidence of that.
I would expect things like buses and trains or any public transport areas to be as risky as any hospital or care home. Both my mother in law and niece say that they have full PPE and everywhere is cleaned in the homes they work – one is in the West End of Newcastle and the other in Shildon – 2 areas that have little money. If any of the staff feel unwell at all, they get tested.
But to do it routinely would waste a lot of tests imo. I’m sure it’s a similar set up in hospitals.
It would be interesting to see if it’s NHS execs asking for this weekly testing, or politicals trying to look good off the back of the NHS again.
I say that because I heard a lot speak out over the lack of PPE – but not heard any speak about the lack of testing – your post was from a politician and rather irresponsible imo.
The Dr is an educated person. Even her belated explanation doesn’t cover the tweet – the tweet references ‘lives’ not structures or ideology – if that’s what she meant I think she’s educated well enough to make that point. Far better educated that then nuggets that have issued death threats or spoke of blowpipes.
Enter the world of social media at your peril I say, but if you do, make sure you consider your wording.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Imagine how much more difficult and how much longer they would have to wait if you started making testing a weekly thing for thousands of people who didn’t necessarily need them then ??♂️
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy , it’s a doctor who was behind the weekly testing idea, the politicians took it up on her behalf as i understand it.
Also don’t know if you are aware but Weston General Hospital was forced to close due to so many of the staff being positive for covid, so that to me says we need to be vigilant .
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Post keep disappearing, have to keep opening up a new link and still have problems with having to post details in box.
Makes it impossible to have a conversation.
kimtoon(Quote)
NEW THREAD
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Andy is working on the site to find a resolution
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