Newcastle United takeover – Saudi saga leaves club paralysed as others make progress

Nothing speaks more about the situation Newcastle United are in than the decision to open talks with Andy Carroll over a new contract. This news comes just days after his name was published on the Premier League website as one of the released players.

This suggests that the club did submit his name as a player they wouldn’t be retaining, before a change of heart has led to discussions being open. On social media, fans continue to debate and get excited about the potential takeover led by the PIF, Amanda Staveley and Reuben brothers. There is no doubt that this deal would likely lead to a much more exciting period following the football club. However, the malaise and lack of progress is holding us back.

There was a new spate of reports about the confidence within Mike Ashley’s camp that the ongoing legal cases will bring a positive resolution. It may come to pass that it does. However, the world of law spins slowly. There are hearings, appeals and delays. The Premier League won’t go down lightly, even if it comes to light that they are in the wrong. This means, a positive conclusion is likely to take time.

If the Premier League were going to accept this deal quickly, they would have already. 

In the mean-time, the football club continues to drift in a state of paralysis. The rumour of a new deal to Andy Carroll underlines that point. Not even Mike Ashley’s Newcastle United believe the former England international is still capable of performing consistently at Premier League level. If they did, his name would never have been published on the Premier League website as one of the released players.

Since that decision was made, there has clearly been discussions about the level of finance available this summer, or lack of it. Based on this, Steve Bruce may have decided that it will be better to keep Carroll around to ensure he isn’t left short next season.

A decision to keep Carroll wouldn’t even be a bad move due to his own regression. It would also take up one of the precious 25 places in the Premier League squad, which reduces our ability to bring reinforcements in. 

Meanwhile, Crystal Palace have shown ambition in their attempts – albeit unsuccessful – to appoint Nuno Espirito Santo and Aston Villa are cherry picking star players from other bottom half Premier League teams, looking to sign James Ward-Prowse after agreeing a club record deal for Norwich’s Emi Buendia. These are sides looking to push forward, while we are left trying to offer a new contract to a striker who has scored just once in the last two seasons. In the campaign that has just finished, he played just 384 minutes in the Premier League.

It highlights the issue of keeping hold of this takeover. There is uncertainty about the short and long term future of the club. Ashley is even less willing to release funds, as he could be selling in the coming months. Steve Bruce is in charge, despite being a poor Premier League coach and there is no ambition to appoint anybody else who may be able to push the club on.

We have managed to avoid relegation in the last two seasons, but there is no doubt that we are merely staying still. In the Premier League, that is a dangerous thing to do, as eventually more ambitious clubs will pass us by. We have already seen Leeds United and Aston Villa push on beyond us. Brentford are a well run club, who will want to push on in the Premier League. They could be next. 

This takeover process post agreement has now been ongoing for well over a year. At some point, Mike Ashley needs to move on. I am not believing that it is a choice between this consortium or Mike Ashley. There will be more interested parties out there. 

This legal process and ongoing commitment to the takeover is becoming an issue. There are only so many seasons that we can expect Steve Bruce to keep this side in the Premier League without further investment. We will see what the summer will bring, but the transfer business at Arsenal is already a concern. They are set to sell Matteo Guendouzi, Granit Xhaka and Hector Bellerin. Their need to sell Joe Willock is decreasing day on day. 

If we don’t bring Willock back, we will already be starting next season in a weaker position than we ended last season in. That doesn’t even bring into focus the need to strengthen the rest of the squad.

It is okay for Ashley to pursue legal proceedings, but he can’t let the team stagnate at the same time. This time next year, he may have lost his legal cases and we may have been relegated.

At this point in time, that seems more likely than PIF owning the club. 

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70 thoughts on “Newcastle United takeover – Saudi saga leaves club paralysed as others make progress

  1. 🤦🏼‍♂️ Does anyone have any evidence that the ‘Saudi saga’ is still even a thing??? – as far as I’m concerned they walked away & have never returned.
    There are plenty of people making click bait claims and assumptions – but nothing concrete … wishful thinking imo.

    People need to move on from the Saudis.

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  2. Sharpy mate, this has confused the hell out of me because there have been so many conflicting stories. It is certainly clickbait and whatever the term would be for a similar type of thing for Youtube-bait. The Geordie Drunkard, I mean Dentist, is the one that gets on my nerves. He seems to think he has insight because he lives in the mid-east. What a farce that man is!!!

    Now if you want my gut feeling… again… 🙂

    I think the competition lawsuit will go Ashley’s way and he will get a few million. I dont think this will matter at all as far as a takeover is concerned.

    Arbitration? That will be a cover up. They cannot risk p!ssing off the “big 6” and if the findings were that Masters and Hoffman colluded with them then they would need to be sacked. Aint Gonna Happen!!! We have just seen how there is no accountability at Uefa or the PL. Those fines were a joke.

    I dont care how smart the Fatman’s lawyers are, I just cant see us getting a judgement at arbitration that is not just waffle.

    I am absolutely certain Masters and Hoffman colluded with at least Spurs and Liverpool to block the NUFC takeover. But that is not the issue. The issue is proof and I am not sure if there is enough to carry the case.

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  3. Eric:
    Sharpy mate, this has confused the hell out of me because there have been so many conflicting stories. It is certainly clickbait and whatever the term would be for a similar type of thing for Youtube-bait. The Geordie Drunkard, I mean Dentist, is the one that gets on my nerves. He seems to think he has insight because he lives in the mid-east. What a farce that man is!!!

    Now if you want my gut feeling… again… 🙂

    I think the competition lawsuit will go Ashley’s way and he will get a few million. I dont think this will matter at all as far as a takeover is concerned.

    Arbitration? That will be a cover up. They cannot risk p!ssing off the “big 6” and if the findings were that Masters and Hoffman colluded with them then they would need to be sacked. Aint Gonna Happen!!! We have just seen how there is no accountability at Uefa or the PL. Those fines were a joke.

    I dont care how smart the Fatman’s lawyers are, I just cant see us getting a judgement at arbitration that is not just waffle.

    I am absolutely certain Masters and Hoffman colluded with at least Spurs and Liverpool to block the NUFC takeover. But that is not the issue. The issue is proof and I am not sure if there is enough to carry the case.

    Eric – agree mate, but the PL will also go down the lines of piracy & right & proper based on humanitarian grounds.

    I don’t think Ashley would pursue it if there wasn’t a strong chance he gets some compo at the end of it – but that shouldn’t be confused with this thought he’s trying to fight to get the takeover back on.

    Let’s not be confused either here – the Saudis will have the same mindset as those who tried to break away for the ESL. If there is a sniff that could come off, the Saudis aren’t gonna invest in us & miss out on that – no chance!!.

    So even if the PL give the green light to takeover, I don’t think it’s a done deal necessarily.

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  4. My doubts on this go back to the OJ Simpson trial over here. That was the trial of the century and it was obvious he did it. But he got off. Not sure how many in the UK followed it, but it was an open and shut case and still he got acquitted.

    That is what I think about the arbitration. I think we all know it will be rigged.

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  5. I just listened to 10 minutes of Wraith’s youtube when they discuss the takeover for 2 hrs on a fday neet. I should have just stuck a knitting needle in my eye, it would have been less painfull. Talking in circles, acting like they are in the know, when they know nowt.

    NEVER AGAIN.

    And these people were the previous leaders of NUST.

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  6. I don’t trust Ashley 1%, as is always mentioned, it’s season ticket time again, we’ll be linked with every player in the £50m region and sign no one, Bruce will get a contract extension for steering us to safety, excuse after excuse of how we tried to sign Joe Bloggs but couldn’t get it over the line, it’s **** under Ashley, and will continue to be

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  7. Our approach is very much like 5under1and’s last time they played with the big boys. Season after season of minimal spend relying on good loans to take up the slack. Eventually that will catch up with us especially if he keeps Doubtfire at the helm. I appreciate to the media he is the greatest manager to ever grace the premier league a cross between Ferguson, Paisley. Jesus and Henry Kissinger but to us mere mortals he is another Ashley stooge, grateful for a job beyond his abilities and happy to do what he is told. His luck will run out soon.

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  8. Didnt MBabu used to play for us?

    Anyway, Jarra Mick…

    I can never make up my mind whether to call Bruce Doubtfire, Bagpuss or Cabbage.He has the look of all 3. The Mag seem to call him the Corbridge Cabbage which has the attraction of alliteration.

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  9. 40 mins. The Swiss have totally outplayed Wales. Schar has looked good.

    It is like watching a Brucie game where they do nowt and then hope that Bale will nick them a goal in the 88th minute.

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  10. Eric:
    40 mins. The Swiss have totally outplayed Wales. Schar has looked good.

    It is like watching a Brucie game where they do nowt and then hope that Bale will nick them a goal in the 88th minute.

    Agree, but a shame a very smart save was followed almost immediately by a goal.

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  11. Jarra Mick:
    Our approach is very much like 5under1and’s last time they played with the big boys. Season after season of minimal spend relying on good loans to take up the slack. Eventually that will catch up with us especially if he keeps Doubtfire at the helm. I appreciate to the media he is the greatest manager to ever grace the premier league a cross between Ferguson, Paisley. Jesus and Henry Kissinger but to us mere mortals he is another Ashley stooge, grateful for a job beyond his abilities and happy to do what he is told. His luck will run out soon.

    Spot on Mick, you can paint over a crack but it always comes back.

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  12. Wish that Rafa had not sold Mbabu. Could never understand that one when he looked so good in that match vs Chelsea. He’s looking damn good now! Shar doing well too!

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  13. Anyone watching Denmark Finland game? Christian Eriksen just collapsed and had extensive CPR … match abandoned 😔😔😔

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  14. I know Eric, shocking… it didn’t look good at all… hoping he comes through, but CPR and shock treatment on the pitch didn’t look good at all. Feel for his family and team mates.

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  15. So pleased Christian is now stable and ok. Was making tea so didn’t see it live, thank god .
    How life can turn on a sixpence, really quite frightening isn’t it.

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  16. Ok. Now I am confused about the Euros. Why is it not Euro2021? Is it coz they had all the merchandise printed up with 2020?

    And how come with so many venues are teams playing at home. Denmark in Copenhagen, Russia in St Petersberg, England at Wembley?

    England have a massive advantage here, with this 1st game at home and then the semis and final at Wembley.

    Some of the press are already giving Southgate an excuse saying the team are too young and he is preparing for the Qatar WC. Not true at all. Most of his players are at their peak including Kane, Grealish, Walker, Stones, Sterling. Even Rice. The only one you could argue about is Bellingham but will he even play?

    Pep has shown faith in Foden so I dont see the argument to say he is too raw for this tournament either. He just won the league and got to the final of the CL FFS.

    Mount won the CL FFS.

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  17. Grealish is 25
    Kane is 27
    Rice is 22
    Mount is 22
    Foden is 21
    Stones is 27
    Sterling is 26
    Walker is 31

    These are not wet behind the ears teenagers. There is a great mix of youth and experience if Southgate can get his act together.

    Some of the press are giving Southgate an excuse before a ball is even kicked.

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  18. Qatar is a crapshoot in terms of who might win. You have all sorts of variables like it being in winter, the new stadiums, the corruption.

    Euro 2020/21 is set up perfectly for England to win it. There hasn’t been a better chance since Euro 1996.

    55 years of hurt still cant stop me dreaming. Imagine if England DO make it to the semis at Wembley?

    We have been given almost a home tournament and Germany, France and Portugal are in the Group of Death.

    Kane was the golden boot winner at the last WC. We was top in goals and assists in the PL this year. He is Shearer in his prime before the injuries. Some of the stuff Grealish does is Gazza-like and Foden must have watched David Silva.

    THIS IS IT. This is the time to step up. To not be timid, which is what Southgate is already intimating at for the 1st game. Get after them man. Croatia arnt that good and Modrich is now 85 years old.

    You know what my only fear is apart from Southgate? He is short, has short arms, berates his team-mates and comes from Sunderland.

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  19. Wembley has 9 games including the semi-finals and final. If not now Gareth and the British press then when ???!!!

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  20. We have even been handed an easy group and Ugly John Carver is one of the coaches for Scotland FFS. I am not sure if I can even name any Scotland players apart from Fraser. If we get beat by Crotia or the Jocks then Southgate needs taken out and shot.

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  21. I dont get this reverse psychology of playing down your chances. If I was England Manager I would be saying we can win this thing. We have the players and we are essentially at home. You are not even putting down specific opponents if you do this. Hold back saying we will slaughter Croatia. But that is different to saying we can win the whole thing and putting that thought into your players’ heads.

    And just because previous England managers couldnt figure out how to play Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes together doesnt mean you cannot play Mount, Grealish and Foden together!!!!

    Steve Holland was essentially saying that yesterday. He is the Assistant Manager and was warning against playing “fantasy football”. Fck that. The so-called golden generation underachieved. It is time to break that spell. It is time to overachieve and win this thing.

    We have been handed a flush in poker terms with our players and the draw. Time to put your money in the pot and then cards on the table because we have the best squad. Yes, better than Belgium if De Bruyne isnt fit.

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  22. I seriously think TRex Mackem is the worst goalie in the PL because of his temperament.

    And height.

    And, er… short arms.

    And that he is a Mackem.

    Fraser Forster isnt far behind, but he is not in the England squad.

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  23. Just a quick one on Eriksen. I thought the players & fans conducted themselves brilliantly – the camera crew not at all!!.

    I’m so pleased he’s stable and hopefully can make a fully recovery – maybe his playing days are over, maybe not – but watching last night I thought the lad was dead.

    The footballers put on the show and get the big money for doing so – but last night again showed which people truly deserve the big money in this world … Eriksen is still alive for one reason – the quick & brilliant work of the medics.

    What i hate about the world we live in now is that the players had to circle them while they worked to save a mans live – because camera crews & fans with mobile phones thought the right thing to do at that time was capture it and share it.

    This wasn’t George Floyd where you are capturing a social injustice & a crime in progress. But because of events like that people think it’s the right thing to do. It’s f@cked up imo, and I can’t pretend I’m ok with it.

    I wish Eriksen a speedy recovery, and applaud everyone involved in making sure he has the chance to.

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  24. Eric:
    Wow!!! Mag article that just rips Donkey to pieces:

    https://www.themag.co.uk/2021/06/latest-lame-attempt-to-rebrand-joelinton-hasnt-convinced-anybody-newcastle-united/

    Eric – the greatest football supporters the world has ever seen right?!.

    I make no case to suggest that Joelinton is a top player or has come close to explaining his transfer fee – and I’m not sure he ever will to be honest.

    But I think we have to remember these players are only human – he didn’t pick his transfer fee. I think he was thrown under a bus last season the way the team was set up & he was so isolated up front in his own. He was a young lad coming into the best league in the world – coming into a club that had just lost Rafa, Rondon & Perez and getting Bruce & him in return – that’s not his fault. Then add to that he was given the 9 shirt and the expectation sky rockets from a large section of fans who were already starting from a negative place coz he wasn’t Rondon.

    Im sick and tired of all of the bashing that goes on at our club. It’s relentless!!, and it’s really putting me off the sport & the club now if I’m honest.

    Ashley is the cancer in our club. He is the only one not giving it his all. The likes of Bruce & Joelinton who cop for most of the negative, sometimes toxic articles – they aren’t that good at their jobs – but it’s not them destroying our club.

    There won’t have been half the articles on Ashley as there have been on Bruce or Joelinton I bet you – yet he’s the problem.

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  25. Sharpy mate, I am guilty of ripping into Joelinton. I call him Donkey because I dont really see much talent there and the ball bounces off him. But I see your points man.

    Bruce is another matter. I think he is a bit of a nasty piece of work. A fat old wolf in sheep’s clothing defended by his pundit pals on the golf and after-dinner circuit. I doubt if I will be bothered if The Mag write 1,000 articles against him.

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  26. Back to England.

    I dont really care what formation Southgate plays or who his full team is.

    I want to see Kane, Mount, Foden and Grealish on the pitch together. Then I will be happy whatever the Trex Mackem screws up.

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  27. Sharpy17: Eric – the greatest football supporters the world has ever seen right?!.

    I make no case to suggest that Joelinton is a top player or has come close to explaining his transfer fee – and I’m not sure he ever will to be honest.

    But I think we have to remember these players are only human – he didn’t pick his transfer fee.I think he was thrown under a bus last season the way the team was set up & he was so isolated up front in his own.He was a young lad coming into the best league in the world – coming into a club that had just lost Rafa, Rondon & Perez and getting Bruce & him in return – that’s not his fault.Then add to that he was given the 9 shirt and the expectation sky rockets from a large section of fans who were already starting from a negative place coz he wasn’t Rondon.

    Im sick and tired of all of the bashing that goes on at our club.It’s relentless!!, and it’s really putting me off the sport & the club now if I’m honest.

    Ashley is the cancer in our club.He is the only one not giving it his all.The likes of Bruce & Joelinton who cop for most of the negative, sometimes toxic articles – they aren’t that good at their jobs – but it’s not them destroying our club.

    There won’t have been half the articles on Ashley as there have been on Bruce or Joelinton I bet you – yet he’s the problem.

    spot on mate.

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  28. Ashley isn’t even worth my comment anymore. I’m over him.

    As for England – how is it possible you play a right back at left back and leave two quality left backs on the bench? How is it also possible that we play Sterling who hasn’t played well for about 3 months and leave Grealish out who has been our best player in the two warm up games?

    I have very little confidence in Southgate I’m afraid.

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  29. Sharpy, and I agree about coverage of Eriksen too. Apparently it was the host broadcaster who is responsible according to the BBC. I will give them the benefit of doubt but still think they could of just pulled the plug.
    You hear stories of groups of people filming would be jumpers from buildings when officers are trying to talk them down ! Don’t know what this world is coming to anymore. I have seen people filming the aftermath of an accident with my own eyes, shocking. Put down your phone and have some respect, better still help if you can.
    Dunno maybe i’m getting old and cranky, but I cannot stand the mobile phone culture, folk out for dinner with their faces in their phones and taking pics of the food yet not having a b loody conversation with the people they are sat with, still, better rack up them likes ya know. 🙄

    Why this need people have for affirmation that they live the perfect life via a bunch of randoms they’ll likely never meet or in reality have zero real interest in them as a human I will never know.
    Social media and some of the scum that use it killed Caroline Flack and many others who became addicted to it . It’s a very dangerous thing for people with mental health issues in particular to partake in.

    Of course used properly it can be a wonderful thing, righting social injustice (George Floyd) among many, yet mostly it seems to me to have been hijacked by the worst in society .

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  30. Eric:
    Sharpy mate, I am guilty of ripping into Joelinton. I call him Donkey because I dont really see much talent there and the ball bounces off him. But I see your points man.

    Bruce is another matter. I think he is a bit of a nasty piece of work. A fat old wolf in sheep’s clothing defended by his pundit pals on the golf and after-dinner circuit. I doubt if I will be bothered if The Mag write 1,000 articles against him.

    Eric – I know you say that about Bruce, but have you faced the level of abuse he gets?. I’m not talking criticism – that’s different and very much allowed as he’s put himself in that position & it comes with the salary. I’m on about the the vile abuse and nastiness he’s had at times.

    If you did face it, don’t you think your friends would defend you or try and balance things a bit for you?. I can be sure of one thing, you’d come out swinging in exactly the same way Bruce has at times.

    Let’s be fair, most of not all of the times he’s being ‘a nasty piece of work’ is when he’s defending. He’s not gone attacking Craig Hope or sections of the fans – he’s defending himself from their attacks. I’m not sure you or I for that matter would sit back & take it.

    That said, I’m not defending the bloke absolutely here – I think ‘the gloves are off, it’s time to do things my way’ and the Matt Ritchie carry on was just pathetic really.

    He’s not who I want as our manager – not a chance, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be fair towards the bloke & judge it on ‘what would I do, how would I react’.

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  31. Sharpy17:
    Just a quick one on Eriksen.I thought the players & fans conducted themselves brilliantly – the camera crew not at all!!.

    I’m so pleased he’s stable and hopefully can make a fully recovery – maybe his playing days are over, maybe not – but watching last night I thought the lad was dead.

    The footballers put on the show and get the big money for doing so – but last night again showed which people truly deserve the big money in this world … Eriksen is still alive for one reason – the quick & brilliant work of the medics.

    What i hate about the world we live in now is that the players had to circle them while they worked to save a mans live – because camera crews & fans with mobile phones thought the right thing to do at that time was capture it and share it.

    This wasn’t George Floyd where you are capturing a social injustice & a crime in progress.But because of events like that people think it’s the right thing to do.It’s f@cked up imo, and I can’t pretend I’m ok with it.

    I wish Eriksen a speedy recovery, and applaud everyone involved in making sure he has the chance to.

    The Danish Captain seems to be a rather inspirational person. First to him, sorted his tongue out, did cpr, made his team mates make a wall around him and was first to his wife to comfort her. Wouldn’t mind being in the trenches with him that’s for sure…

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  32. I see we are linked with Jack Wiltshire again, Must be a spare table in our physio room.

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  33. On England – I just hope Southgate is brave.

    He wrote a rousing letter the England about memories of watching and playing for England.

    I was my sons age for Italia 90 and it was that tournament that really lit a fire for me for football. My boy is getting into sports properly now his at secondary school – rugby at the moment & that’s good coz I played & loved it.

    But if he got into football because England inspired him, that would be a great Euros for me.

    Go and play boys, good luck 🤞🏼

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  34. Stuart79: The Danish Captain seems to be a rather inspirational person. First to him, sorted his tongue out, did cpr, made his team mates make a wall around him and was first to his wife to comfort her. Wouldn’t mind being in the trenches with him that’s for sure…

    Stu – yes mate, you’re dead right there mate. He conducted himself so well & my heart broke for his wife. Can’t imagine the fear and sense of uselessness she must have felt on that touchline – it was brilliant the players went to her too.

    I can’t begin to explain what I felt when the Finnish fans were shouting Christian & the Danish replied Eriksen – such a moving thing.

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  35. Southgate has bottled it with 2 holding players imo.

    No Grealish or Bellingham – very little creativity in midfield, and Trippier at LB??? – what’s wrong with Shaw or Chilwell??.

    Let’s see 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  36. Not the worst team i have seen for England. I just with Southgate had the balls to put Grealish in and leave out the Mackem TRex.

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  37. You compare the Mackem TRex to Schmiechel and it like night and day. One is a leader and inspires confidence. The other is a little child screaming for his juice bottle.

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  38. All of our attacking players and Stones & Mings just passing it between them … making memories here Gareth 👏🏼🙄.

    Sterling should not be in this squad never mind starting as well by the way – had 2 big chances and didn’t even make the keeper make a save.

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  39. Well we started quite well but after 15 mins it just died. Croatia will not sit back in the second half. We must go for it. Get Grealish on. Get creative.

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  40. Is Kane injured? He hasnt done much and I am his biggest fan. I think him and Lewendowski are the 2 best strikers at the Euros.

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  41. Radford is pathetic on the right so where does Southgate play him? Sterling has been shocking but scored. He should be off.

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  42. A bit like a Bruce win for Newcastle – tough watch but 3 points in the bag 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  43. kimtoon:
    Sharpy, and I agree about coverage of Eriksen too. Apparently it was the host broadcaster who is responsible according to the BBC. I will give them the benefit of doubt but still think they could of just pulled the plug.
    You hear stories of groups of people filming would be jumpers from buildings when officers are trying to talk them down ! Don’t know what this world is coming to anymore. I have seen people filming the aftermath of an accident with my own eyes, shocking. Put down your phone and have some respect, better still help if you can.
    Dunno maybe i’m getting old and cranky, but I cannot stand the mobile phone culture, folk out for dinner with their faces in their phones and taking pics of the food yet not having a b loody conversation with the people they are sat with, still, better rack up them likes ya know. 🙄

    Why this need people have for affirmation that they live the perfect life via a bunch of randoms they’ll likely never meet or in reality have zero real interest in them as a human I will never know.
    Social media and some of the scum that use it killed Caroline Flack and many others who became addicted to it . It’s a very dangerous thing for people with mental health issues in particular to partake in.

    Of course used properly it can be a wonderful thing, righting social injustice (George Floyd) among many, yet mostly it seems to me to have been hijacked by the worst in society .

    Kim – sorry I missed this post. I hate social media with a passion & agree wholeheartedly that it is so dangerous for young vulnerable people who have no self confidence or sense of worth.

    I agree with the use in restaurants as well – there should be an enforced ban!!. You should be made to go outside if you need to take a call, but outside of that – ban them!!.

    When we go on holiday we sit and play cards or top trumps on an evening 😂. Can’t stand the shows the holidays put on so we find a quiet corner in the lounge areas and the 3 of us sit and play top trumps usually – phones are banned. But on the last trip to Mexico we were sat playing & it was actually Ryan who looked round and spotted every other family all on phones/iPads & not speaking at all – he was foaming with them and he was only 10 😂

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  44. Well, it was a win but not the best watch was it.
    Pickfords kicking is s hite
    Kane looked zapped of energy
    Needed Grealish really
    Southgate said the heat was a problem, I imagine it was but if true we’d best pass on a trip to Qatar 🙄

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  45. Kimtoon: I actually fell asleep during part of the 2nd half. It wasnt even a particularly early start over here – I got up at 7am. We should have pressed on. I did notice Graeme Jones on the sideline.

    Next up is the Funboy Three. NUFC related coaches and players – Fraser, Ugly John Carver and Steve Clark. A point should see England through.

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  46. I was OK with most of the team, but thought Kane was subdued. That will change. He is too good of a player not to play well soon.

    As usual, my gripe is Pickford. He looks like a 2 year old having a tantrum and is an accident waiting to happen. He had nowt to do either, but he just looked so un-assured. Not like at SJP when he was frenzied, but I think that is his norm when the pressure is on. AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.

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  47. If England cannot beat Scotland then Southgate needs shooting. I think we will BTW. When I grew up there was Souness and Dalglish. They had sh!t goalies but there were other backup players like Strachen who were good. How come they dont have any good players now?

    Peter Lorimer, Duncan Fergusson, Archie Gemmill. There were so many.

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  48. Calvin Phillips was MOM for me and Sterling was as poor as he’s been for months at City. Drop him and Pickford.

    Just occured to me that the Saudis are entirely to blame for our collapsed takeover. The PL wanted (needed) to have an identified owner but Salman wouldn’t have it. I’d bet if it was Manu or Liverpool then he would. Mansour at City is happy to have his name on the door, the Thai guy at Leicester is etc etc

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  49. Looking at Jake Jackman’s season ratings. Just a couple of comments.

    Jonjo is committed, but he is slow so he looks like he doesnt put effort in. He is slow!

    Donkey is a 2. The ball bounces off him and he never gets into the box.

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  50. If anyone can tell me a bigger waste of money that Joelinton then go ahead. Kepa at Chelsea might compete. Slimani at Leicester?

    Amdy Faye was a worse player but cost so much less and that was some dodgy Agent deal.

    We have had Riviere etc but their fees were not SUPPOSEDLY 40 Mil!!!!

    On a scale of 1-10. Donkey is a 2.

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  51. Going to New Orleans in a few hours and my seat is 34 D. Makes me want to check out some internet porn 🙂

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  52. kimtoon:
    Nice goal Wales, Savage is beside himself . 😆

    Kim – that’s a huge win for Wales. Turkey have some very good players, yet have looked awful so far

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  53. What do we make of Rafa going to Everton then?.

    I can’t say I’m disappointed he’s not coming back to us if I’m honest. I wasn’t his biggest fan. Didn’t dislike him, just didn’t buy into the hype. Obviously preferred him to Bruce – but that really doesn’t say much.

    I’ll be interested to see how it goes down on both sides of the Mersey though. I’d imagine there will be sections of Lpool fans feeling betrayed by him & sections of Everton fans who won’t welcome him because of his Lpool past.

    I actually think there will be a lot of Everton fans would have rather big Dunc be given a chance.

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  54. I totally agree with you Sharpy. Raffa doesn’t really do much for me either. Pretty much just a safe pair of hands as a manager now days.
    We may not even be interested in him and if he goes to Everton, then all the best to him. If the take over happens then there are plenty of managerial options out there.

    Sharpy17:
    What do we make of Rafa going to Everton then?.

    I can’t say I’m disappointed he’s not coming back to us if I’m honest.I wasn’t his biggest fan.Didn’t dislike him, just didn’t buy into the hype.Obviously preferred him to Bruce – but that really doesn’t say much.

    I’ll be interested to see how it goes down on both sides of the Mersey though.I’d imagine there will be sections of Lpool fans feeling betrayed by him & sections of Everton fans who won’t welcome him because of his Lpool past.

    I actually think there will be a lot of Everton fans would have rather big Dunc be given a chance.

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