Llambias and his purple haze!

You trippin?
Purple haze used to be a slang term referring to the drug LSD, which seems quite appropriate really given what Derek Llambias has been saying.

Essentially dastardly Dekka has given a bit of an insight into how the club works when it comes to strengthening and has sounded a note of caution to those who might expect some form of strengthening in January.

He has revealed that the club can only afford to have eleven players of starting quality, or ‘purples’ as those inside the club call them. I don’t know why they are called ‘purples’ and not just ‘players who will be starting’ but hey ho. Personally I think it’s a bit weird, sort of like a secret club, but each to their own…

However the devil is in the detail and whilst poking fun at something like that has an upside, there is most definitely a downside that has come along with it. Here goes…

“We’ve made it quite clear to everyone. We have 11 positions that are grade A players or Purples, as we call them,” he explained in the Northern Echo.

“Then, under them, we have the players who come in under them to take the positions so the squad gets bigger.”

“Eventually we’ll have 33 players who will be pushing everyone. Where we are we have, in effect, 11 Purples if you count (Vurnon) Anita. He can play midfield, right-back, left-back. They are there. Centre-backs you have Colo and Steven Taylor, who are fantastic centre-backs.”

“To bring in another centre-back then you have James Perch, who is doing a fantastic job, (Mike) Williamson, who is doing a fantastic job. You can’t have two purples per position because the club can’t afford it. You have to be realistic.”

Ok so we have to be realistic then? So what is being realistic? Is it now realistic to assume that we won’t be buying any players for the starting eleven until one is sold? Is it realistic to assume those that are here will only be pressured for positions from within? Is it realistic to assume that we are going to continue with a squad that is thin on experienced cover?

Another thing, Derek. Most fans are realistic enough to know that we aren’t going to be able to acquire two full teams of stars and leave eleven of them on the bench each week. We haven’t got Champions League football and aren’t a big enough draw for a ‘purple’ player to be willing to come and sit on our bench.

However, to say we can only afford one first-team player per position is just, well, bollocks. You constantly tell us how well you and your mate Mike have done with the finances but now it’s all under control we suddenly can’t afford anything. Why try to improve at all then?

This regime have done some good things, but things like this really annoy me. In fairness we are without BOTH ‘purple’ central defenders and I dare say that most teams would struggle a bit more if that was the case, but with a player with an injury record like Steven Taylor’s you have to wonder why there isn’t an inkling of wanting to strengthen that area of the pitch.

What do you think?

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257 thoughts on “Llambias and his purple haze!

  1. The trubble with accountants is that they think only financial considerations should be used in decision-making, and there are no other factors worthy of consideration.

    That’s why they should NEVER be put in charge of anything!

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  2. If we don’t spend money we will finish lower in the table = No Champions Leage or Europa Leage = less money. You have to spend if you want to make money and you aren’t always going to get great deals like we got for Tiote and Cabaye, sometimes you might have to spend a bit more! Our problem before is that we spent a lot of money on players that weren’t worth it, now we have a great scout, can we please use him more?????!

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  3. I can’t take anything he says seriously, he’s a liar plain and simple so because of that when ever he says owt how do we know if it’s true/false/exagerrated/mixture of all 3?
    So either the pursuit of players like De Jong, Debuchy, Douglas was all total bollox or they had expected to shift some players out. As I said on the last thread maybe they thought Tiote or Cabaye(possibly both) would leave, both players reportedly said they’d turned down moves, maybe the club had accepted offers for them? Even if that was the case, or we to assume we were going to sell 2 cm’s to buy defenders? maybe as we don’t really have “saleable assets” in defence(possibly Colo apart)…then would that mean the club saw Bigi and Anita as our CM’s to replace them? 😯
    I don’t know about “purple” players but what I do know is that you need at least 16 players in the squad who, no matter which of those 16 play it shouldn’t really have much of an impact on the ability or quality of the team(or at least that should be the aim), it’s called competiton for places and without it, we’ll go no where…..imo of course 😉
    We went into the last game of last season with a “slim” chance of a CL place, maybe if we’d got the CB last summer(that we still need now!) we’d have picked up the points needed to achieve that, who knows? but the Norwich game springs to mind, of a game where we may have picked up something and I dare say there were others….obviously no way to be sure, but thats the way I see it. We missed out on a huge opportunity last season, it could be a long while before we get that chance again, or so it would seem! 😉

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  4. Good read the man is a total Muppet and knows fuk all about footie and while he is here he will continue to cause problems.
    But I guess some still think that him and jabba are doing a good job for the club but I fear we will get nowhere under them.

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  5. The way I see it is we where a championship team not so long ago and without any major sort of investment on MA behalf we have successfully finished top half of the table struck two sponsorship deals and managed to almost balance the books. To a businessman (the likes of who are in charge of our club) that is good business! And he won’t invest anymore because in his eyes it does not make economical sense. He does not share a passion for NUFC that we do and therefore will never see the need to ‘go the extra mile’…

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  6. Richietoon@3 I’ve seen this type of communication in business mate, give out conflicting stories to keep everyone confused and distracted. At the same time never respond to the fact that you have issued conflicting statements in the past cos it makes you look stupid….ahem….

    It goes a long way to creating distrust, and that is exactly where wor lot want to be at the end of the day. Lamb… has said as much himself in his own special way…”You don’t know how bad we can really be….” or something along those lines…

    I wonder what the other chairman and owners make of wor lot ? Or don’t they mix at all ? I have some romantic notion from Lord Westwood’s days of Chairman meeting up after a toon game for a spiffing cigar, a glass of port and bacon stotty after the game.

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  7. I think they should get 4 players for each position (eg, 4cb’s) in the first team fighting for a place in the first xi, that’s what is called competition for places, that’s what improves quality, and if they can’t afford it then “realistically” contemplating they should never ever “realistically” even consider for a Champions League place.. Hope they loose their purse strings in the january transfer window.

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  8. Munich Mag says:
    October 13, 2012 at 10:44
    Richietoon@3 I’ve seen this type of communication in business mate, give out conflicting stories to keep everyone confused and distracted.
    ….so have I mate, but it’s reading your comments where I’ve seen it 😉 😆

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  9. Nathandio, do you know personally that Ashley has “almost managed to balance the books” ? 😉

    If so, what is he doing with the profit that is rolling in ?

    Who at the toon is rating a “purple” player at the end of the day ?

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  10. Richie you disappoint me mate, I wrote it slowly so that you could understand it … 😆 Which of the long words are you having trouble with ?

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  11. Richie 😯 – that post is nearly as long as one of mine!. You’ve completely right though, and I made the same point about the pursuit of Debuchy, Douglas and De Jong yesterday.
    It just doesnt add up!, dont get me wrong, I get that we can’t be a Man City and have most of the squad on huge wages.
    But what makes a purple player?, is it just the wages or the transfer fee as well?.
    As I said yesterday, we seem to now have so many restrictions to our transfer policy that players who COULD improve the squad will now be rule out by one of the many many criteria.

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  12. MM…”stupid” was the word I was struggling with, it seems to be associated with your comments alot though so you must know what it means? 😉 😆

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  13. Sharpy….I had nowt better to do :mrgreen:

    o/t but maybe we should have got Obafemi as a striker to replace Best n Loven, he was available for free, offers something different to our other strikers 😯 😯

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  14. looks like RICHIE been in the kitchen again eating raw meat again 😀
    MM aye westwood was a one eyed git we have moved on now,we have a four eyed git,dont know about purple he only makes me see RED 👿 you know what they say once a liar always a L

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  15. Agree with it in principle but the gap in talent between our “purple” and the rest is too much.
    I don’t know why we feel we have a right to have a better squad than everton or to be spending more than them or arsenal.

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  16. The way I see it is that until we get defenders in that can either take the 1st team shirt or push for it we’ll just be a mid table team.
    Lambasted must have been having a laugh when he said Perch was a good CV lol

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  17. MM…..whatever gave you that idea 😆 …just messin 😉
    Is it getting nippy owa there yet?….reet off to doontoon Alicante 😎

    “I don’t know why we feel we have a right to have a better squad than everton or to be spending more than them or arsenal.”….have I missed something? as far as I can see you’re the only one who’s mentioned that….unless I’ve not seen it 😉

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  18. To be honest he’s talking like a CEO of a PLC who’s remit it is to just make profit, profit and more profit, forgetting about the need to actually produce a quality end product. This is a football club!!!

    To me it’s very clear – we can’t expect to have back up players and better than Perch, Williamson or Shola!

    But it does beg this very interesting question;

    What was the point in making bids for Debuchy, De Jong and Douglas in the summer? It’s obvious they woul have been ‘purple’ players. Did we really have any intention of actually buying them or were we just stringing everyone along?

    Pardew has the impossible job IMO – CL? Don’t make me laugh, not the way the club is ran, rightly or wrongly.

    Where we sit in the league now there is a good possibility we’ll still be there come May. That’s not progress.

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  19. Heskey scored for Newcastle Jets 😯 , knew we should have got him 🙁 😆
    Heading down south to Tynemouth/Whitley Bay at the moment, brought the football so will be doing the run and pass game along the length of the beach early morning tomorrow. :mrgreen:

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  20. Richie – is he still free?, would defo see Martins back but he must be about 50yr old now is he?

    Again tho, under this ‘purple’ policy the free transfers (that dont carry a fee) would be restricted depending on their wage demands.

    Speaking of wage demands, this kinda puts a different spin on ‘greedy simpson’ for me as well now. I this being a problem that will only get bigger within the club. If for example Bigi starts playing more regularly, isn’t it only fair that he’d expect similar wages to the likes of Cabaye, Tiote and Jonas?

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  21. Sharpy
    If he could play for Birmingham I doubt his wage demands would be quite as high as they were for us. Reckon he’d come for around 25kpw, whether he’s still a free agent I don’t know.

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  22. Andy – he was only on loan at Bham tho wasn’t he?, still 25k would make him a Green player and we have room in that category 😆

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  23. God i cant stand the bloke i would love to give him an almighty kick in the knackers . Maybe then he would not talk so much **** . They have been going on about the same thing for years now , but putting a different slant on it every time . The fact is they are not interested in spending to get us into the CL they want to do it on the cheap .Well wake up and smell the coffee Lambiarse it ain’t gonna happen .Tell fatman it s time to invest in 2 purple defenders or shut the **** up , sell up and **** off .

    SO RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 🙄 :mrgreen: 😆

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  24. MM fortunately I don’t know him personally but to answer your question with regards to profits, he probably does what any other shrewd businessman does…. Pockets it!!! Why have British Gas announced 8% raises in bills when they recorded profits last year?!! Business! That’s all we are to him…

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  25. @richie
    but then why do we feel so hard done by? the way we are being ran is no different to them.
    Centre back aside, if we have to sell a big player every now and then to fund strengthening the team then i have no problem with that as everton/arsenal, even spurs with carrick/berba did it.

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  26. Stuart79…. do you know the famous literary statement …”some players are more purple than others…” 😆 😉

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  27. Yeah, but would he be ahead of Shola? Also would he be happy being behind the Dembas? It’s annoying that we were knocked out of the C1 cup, cus he could’ve gotten game time in the cups.

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  28. Sharpy17@22 ……Simmo is only a kind of offish dark red colour at the moment, while the jury at Dulux is still out regarding Bigi. He could be a purple though in a couple of years… 😕

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  29. Andymag….gotcha big man… 😉

    Tynemouth / Whitley Bay…. I’m envious mate. Get that strapping air in your lungs. 😀 😀 .. Pity you couldn’t combine the trip with a home game, or are you staying in the toon for a while ?

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  30. Just till Monday. Will be staying at my aunt and uncles, just visiting family and then heading to Hadrian’s Wall.

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  31. I wonder what the players make of the “Purple” statement ?

    It can probably have a positive effect on the players who don’t consider themselves “purple”, and will keep them motivated and performing to the best of there abilities. Actually a good ploy by an employer, keeps everyone on there toes.

    The players who are purple through and through will look at the Lambias statement and either think….”there is no way that ::::: is going to threaten my position”…. and may possibly become disinterested. They may react negatively to the purported lack of investment in the club….

    At the end of the day, Lambias has spelled out the clubs transfer strategy in black and white. The players have to live with it. Time will show what transpires at the club… The fans have to live with it too unfortunately … 👿

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  32. Andymag… Hadrians Wall…another favourite of mine. Call in at Bamburgh Castle and Dunstanburgh Castle on the way back north and you’ve hit all the highlights ! 😆 😆

    I’m probably not going to get back to the toon for 6 months or so, due to work commitments, though we’ve spoke about meeting mates in London for a toon game some time this season, hopefully I can pull that one off…

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  33. Andymag@37. I wonder what kind of deal they wangled for Forster, with sell on clauses, appearance money etc etc.

    The bloke has appeared in the England squad, that puts at least another 2 mill on his sell on fee ?

    Surely Purple Derek has got that loop-hole stitched up … 😉

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  34. ST I still disagree with you as I said lastnight you are saying that your happy enough to sell a big player to strengthen the team ( even though your weakening it by selling the player)
    But the teams you mentioned don’t sell to strengthen they sell because the player / players have grown to big and want to move on or in Henry’s case cause problems within the club, so they sell them then reinvest the money ❗ now that to me is completely different to selling purely to get money to strengthen the team.
    Are you saying that Spurs only sold Barba and Carrick because they needed the money to strengthen the team ? or did they sell them because they had no choice because the players had bigger ambitions and were wanted by a bigger ( TOP ) club??

    MM I don’t think the player will be kept on their toes because of what colour they are seen as 🙄 I would have thought proper competition for their starting place would have been the best way to keep them on their toes 😉

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  35. Big D@40…that’s what I said mate. Dastardly Derek brought the colour coding into the equation.

    A purple player thinks he’s pretty much untouchable, and his place will only be challenged from within the group…. The club have said they won’t be bringing anyone in….

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  36. MM spot on mate it will make them think they’re untouchable as I think we have witnessed in most of our games this season where most of them have hardly put a shift in.
    I also think with this plan we’ll have no problem in getting money for investing in the team, because in my opinion a few of our top players will be looking a move to a club with a bit more ambition than mid table mediocrity

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  37. Dave, forgive me but I don’t see the difference ❓
    Bottom line is that these clubs selling their big players is what funds their transfer activity.
    Surely if they were going to spend the money anyway then their transfer budgets would be doubled as a result of the sale? 😕
    When big players are sold it’s only ever because they choose to leave. It’s probably why Pardew was tempting clubs towards our players. As he knows that only a big sale will see big funds for players.
    BD you can’t deny the link between selling their top players and reinvesting in the squad. After Rooney, Moyes never moans when his players leave. Obviously it’s not ideal, but the days of chairmen bankrolling transfers is over. Transfers are being funded by sales.
    I don’t know why so many have a problem with this fact when the teams we are closest to follow the same rules.

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  38. Also did Henry cause a problem when leaving? 😕
    Of most the Spurs/Arsenal/Everton players leaving for big money I can only really remember Modric causing a problem. The rest, Fab/Arteta etc all seem to have left on good terms.
    And you say with Carrick/Berba they had no choice as the players wanted to go as they had more ambition, isn’t that the only reason (with money) that a big player would leave anyway?
    So if we sold Cabaye etc it would be the exact same reasons, which would then fund the rebuilding of the team.

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  39. MM
    Been to bamburgh loads, was very near where my aunt and uncle that I’m staying with used to live. It’s where some of the original Harry Potter films were filmed, looks very much like Hogwarts. Will be my first trip to Hadrian’s, my mum used to work there so is keen to show me it. Always trying to see an opportunity to convince my dad to take me to a match myself, now that I haven’t got a job I have Saturdays free but as it costs a lot and I usually have school work so can’t go.
    If Dekka can get us money for renaming SJP to SJP then I’m sure he’s somehow scammed Celtic 😉 .

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  40. Big D@42….spot on mate. Another factor when it comes to them putting ina full shift imo is the presence of big tournaments… Euros or World Cups. The players on the fringes of the respective national teams tend to go that little bit extra to get noticed…. 😉 Unless they are purple internationals as well of course … 😆 😆 Then, if they are purple internationals I’m happy to have them in the toon team…. 😀

    btw 2012 / 2013 there aint any big tournaments taking place…. apart from the Europa League …. 😉 😉

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  41. ST yeah Henry caused a problem with in the dressing room with his ego and was holding other’s back 😯 did you not know that as it was well documented .
    ST I can’t make it any clearer you are agreeing that for our club to strengthen we need to sell top players, not that they want to leave but if we want to get players in we need to sell ? I’m saying that the other clubs didn’t want to sell but had no option because the players your talking about made it clear they wanted the move.
    But as I said it won’t make much difference as im sure with the plan the club have ( the same one you agree with ) we’ll have a few top players wanting to move due to the club’s lack of ambition ❓

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  42. Solano…you make some poor comparisons mate, Henry had achieved “god-like” status at Arsenal, parallels to Shearer can be made…he’s almost untouchable at Arsenal…

    Don’t you recall the whole Fabregas to Barcelona circus that went on for two years and pee’ed everybody off ?

    Do you genuinely think Moyes has stopped complaining after Rooney ? He just does it behind closed doors …. 😆 😆 If he was at the toon we’d be labelling him a “puppet”…:lol:

    Another issue is if we’re talking about taking “purple” players out of NUFC. The sooner our deluded owners stop comparing us to Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs etc the better. It only goes to help to mislead our fans, some of may think that after one season of over-achieveing and roughing it out at the top of the league then it goes without saying we’ll be doing it regularly. Football doesn’t stand still, and we’re only as good as our last game, which this season has been pretty dire in my opinion…

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  43. Andymag….I’m on my hols in Spain mate…. 😥

    Although the logistics to get to Bruges are pretty hairy I was thinking about going to the game, but cos of my hols and the fact that the tickets are as hard to come by as rocking horse sh::t I gave up on it. Spoke to my nephew in the toon last week, and apparently there’ll be 10,000 toon radgies in Bruges for the game, a lot of them without tickets… but they’re all going for a few sneck lifters and a canny day out … 😆 😆 😆

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  44. @MM Fabregas played his heart out until the minute he left.
    Okay so despite Moyes not complaining, you’re just going to assume he did?
    BD I’m not saying force anyone out. I’m saying that the only way we will see proper investment in the squad is if a big club comes in and the player decides to leave.
    Spurs/Arsenal/Everton sell players yearly, they get the offer, decide it can be used wisely, and sell the player. It’s not like the player always forces it.
    The evidence is there.
    Do you have an issue with this system ❓
    Maybe that’s the reason our transfers were dragged out. We were hoping someone would shell out for a player and that would fund everything. Uncomfortable idea, but again, Spurs/Everton/Arsenal all spent less than they made, why should we be different?

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  45. Dave basically I think we have two options.
    A) Very slow progression, adding to the squad gradually as we did this summer. (WITH a centre back, as not signing was ridiculous)
    B) A bigger club swooping for one of our prized assets, with us using the money for holes in our squad.

    I don’t have a problem with either. But some seem to have a problem with both. So my question to them: What would you do? And where would you get the money from ❓ It’s easy to say, tv rights and sponsorship etc etc, but clubs more established then us aren’t splashing without selling so there must be more expenses that we aren’t privvy to.

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  46. (THIS IS A GOVERNMENT HEALTH WARNING. THIS POSTER IS LIABLE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW. ONLY ENGAGE IF YOU AREN’T SENSITIVE AND DON’T TAKE HISSY FITS)

    Surely Pardew can’t be happy with that. Or is he? Surely he would have discussed it with Owlheed before signing his 8 yr deal.

    Why did we show interest in other players in the summer if that’s his belief.

    Was it the case, that if we signed a purple player then one of our current purple players would have been sold. It sounds that way.

    Purple Rain.

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  47. MM
    I’ve swayed him on a few matches like Wigan at home last season and Bolton aswell. Glad I convinced him on the latter as that was the game with HBAs wonder goal.

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  48. No one liked or trusted Dekka before these comments so why is everyone getting upset now? Just management talk, you have to have a business plan but that does not mean it can’t be broken should the right deal come along.. three cheers for Dekka 🙂 🙂

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  49. if we have “purple” players, what colour do the inbreds have?? “BROWN”?? 😉 😉

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  50. If as it looks he’s saying noone is coming in for the CBspot in Jan then that is directly at odds to the owner who apparently asked Pards last year when are you getting the CB we need. 😕

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  51. ST….my point wasn’t about us feeling hard done byit was about you “stating” we feel we have the “right” to be better than Everton when no one else has mentioned that on this thread other than you, so I guess your making assumptions then? therefore I could assume from your comment that you are happy for us not to be as good as Everton or Arsenal then?…defeats the point of being a football fan imo, I expect nothing but I hope for everything. I hope and want us to be the best team in England, what’s wrong with that? 😉

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  52. ST so you think we should just standstill ( which really means go backwards ) until we get a big club coming in for one of our best players so that we can then replace a position that we have been lacking in for a couple of season, then we’ll wait around again to ship another top player out so that we can plug the gap that the last top player left 😯 right
    As for sponsorship yeah that should buy us players as thats what Lambastad said himsel when he talked about the renaming and how it would bring in £10 mil a yr which would buy us a player so why don’t we use that money to strengthen the team, unless Lambastad was lying and I don’t think he would do that 🙄 oh wait maybe he was lying.

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  53. Sharpy@22…soz for the late reply, been doon toon for a few sherberts :mrgreen: …ref Obafemi, he signed for Levante on a free, he’s played 3 league games one as sub and has scored the winner in 2 of those games(also scored one that was disalllowed), I suspect he’s on ***** wages as there’s **** all money in Spanish footy unless you’re at one of the big 2….also I believe the reason he went to Brum on loan was because his family is in UK(I think) so he would probably have jumped at the chance of any English prem club.

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  54. The centre back position thing is the joke thing about it anyway. Staylor’s probably had one full season in his entire career I mean for **** sake, it’s not a mystery we need someone there.

    And whatever tactics people like switching to, you’ll always need centre backs. We can switch to narrow to avoid using wingers, play utility players in the middle, hell we could even try playing without Ba or Cisse and see what happens, but any good side will punish us when we start playing midfielders and full backs in the centre..

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  55. Newkie…he’s made 30 league apps once in his career, said it before and I’ll say it again…not getting a decent Cb when fecking Sol left was a huge mistake and imo cost us points last season, bearing in mind we went into the last day of the season with a possible CL up for place, well who knows how it would have went, but can’t see us getting that close again in the near future, tho hope to **** I’m wrong 😕

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  56. Richie @ 61 that my friend is one of those rare moments that you call it spot on 😉

    ST @ 53 > Very slow progression, adding to the squad gradually as we did this summer. (WITH a centre back, as not signing was ridiculous)

    So what your saying is that one of the options your agreeing to is rediculous 😳

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  57. Dave@68…that must have been one of those rare occasions when you called it spot on then 😉

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  58. “I would hope to generate between £8m-10m a year, that will give us another player,” Llambias told BBC Newcastle.

    Derek Llambias 10th Nov 2011

    “To bring in another centre-back then you have James Perch, who is doing a fantastic job, (Mike) Williamson, who is doing a fantastic job. You can’t have two purples per position because the club can’t afford it. You have to be realistic.”

    Derek Llambias 10th Oct 2012

    So what has changed ? or was he lying last year ❓

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  59. @Richie
    People are saying we need to have 2 players competing for each position, yes? Everton don’t.
    People are questioning why we didn’t spend more, yes? We spent more than Everton/Arsenal/Spurs
    There must be a reason these clubs don’t spend loads other than “stingy owners”. We can moan and groan but our competitors are in the same boat so we don’t really have a leg to stand on.

    @Dave
    The teams we are competing with/aim to compete with don’t splash the cash unless they sell.
    I agree, even if it means “standing still” though I am happy that we signed three promising players. If we’d signed, say, Scott Dann, I would be happy and say it was slow progression. Many on here still wouldn’t have been.
    Which club are you looking at, thinking why aren’t we acting like them ❓
    From where I’m sitting it seems like we’re acting the same as clubs around us, it might be annoying but can’t complain too much tbh.

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