To be totally honest I do not know what to believe when it comes to who will be our next manager. On one hand we have Remi Garde who seems to be the odds on favourite at the moment but there are conflicting reports about whether he will start straight away or at the end of the season.
So there is some media confusion around his appointment. You can’t help but feel that they are clutching at straws due to the secretive way the club goes about its business.
There are also reports that three other candidates that have been interviewed as well. Once again, how true this is, I am not so sure, at least the report is a positive one. We have had a number of managers rule themselves out of the role lately so its nice to hear that a few candidates are interested. Mind you I am glad that the likes of Bruce and Hoddle have ruled themselves out. It was nice of them to do so even though there was a good chance that club was never interested in them in the first place!
Now we have the special one saying that John Carver should get the job after our game against Chelsea. It is is a glowing endorsement, it is not often Jose compliments a manager other than himself! Nothing personal against Carver but I think we need a clean break from the coaching team we have had for the past four years. It’s time for some fresh ideas and coaching .
So if I were to pick from the candidates that we have been linked with, I would be choosing Remi Garde. To me, he feels like a good fit for the players we have. For those who are unaware of his record here it is.
Games played -117
Games won – 60
Games drawn – 26
Games lost – 31
Win percentage 51.28%
Not a bad record in anyone’s language but whether he can translate that kind of success to the premier league is anyones guess.
So as it stands Remi Garde is the one to take us forward but I don’t doubt for a second that we may sign someone else from out of the blue. One thing that the Ashley era has taught us is that nothing is certain until the dotted line has been signed. I just hope we can get that signature sooner rather than later no matter who it may be. Uncertainty around leadership never bodes well no matter what environment you ply your trade in. So hopefully Charnley is working hard behind the scenes to get the deal done. Until then, I guess all we can do is wait and speculate!
Our squad isn’t perfect at the moment so it’s very difficult to criticise John Carver. He did work with Sir Bobby for many year’s but at the end of the day it’s not his fault the players aren’t good enough on the day. Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley are the one’s at fault for not investing a sensible amount of money on the first team. If they choose to ignore our central defender crisis then we will suffer as and no new manager will have it easy with Colocini and Williamson at the back. We also have Gouffran, Riviere and Carbella still trying to adapt. Ashley really is terrible at running a club. He should have just paid a team 10 million a year to advertise sports direct.
stem(Quote)
I just watched Southampton against Man U again. With better finishing and the ball not falling to Mata, Man U could have had six. Everybody is lauding Southampton’s defensive display but they were very lucky. I know they are our bogey team but the media are getting carried away here. I think we have a shot, even with Carver.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Mark: This may sound contradictory, but if we appoint Carver as caretaker I will get behind him. I am stating reasons why I think there are better options at the moment. He does have passion for and knowledge of the club though. He has also picked a couple of attacking teams in difficult circumstances who played two good halfs of football – unfortunately not in the same match.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Aussie
I’m pleased you explained your question in more detail. I thought it was a guessing game at one stage. 😉 cheeses wept. 😯
My answer; I think your suggestion is crazy.
With the squad Pardew had, to suggest we could play
quick passing, attacking, free flowing, organized, entertaining football. Bonkers. 🙄
We could have played a more attacking style. Certainly.
But that would have meant compromising the defence. Our defence is **** to start with. We would get battered.
WDYGIF
Where Do Yo Get It From.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Wow!
Psycho is now saying he will get behind Carver.
It was only last week he was writing him off as ugly, angry and shyte amd would never appoint him.
He’s now suggesting he’s picked a couple if good teams.
YCMIU.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Eric Psycho
Your list of genius managers gets even better. What connection turn do you see with those clubs they managed and clubs of today? I can’t believe you have those examples to justify your point.
WTWCT
Troy Stavers(Quote)
This job is now the poison chalice of English football like never before. Negative net spend every single season, sell your best players, have little or no say on players who are bought, pick weakened sides in the cup, no ambition to actually acheive anything other than top ten and have to front up for the fans on all the silly decisions and statements the club come out with.
Why would anyone of any decent calibre want this job?
Stuart79(Quote)
@Eric
no, its not that far fetched, thats why I mentioned Koeman – S’ton
but under the current setup, I’d very much doubt a club without ambition would try and appoint Klinsmann
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
Psycho
@225
These barrage of posts you are printing are blog gold. You are now suggesting that cos the USA national team appointed certain managers, why not Klinka to the toon.
Keep this up Psychsy. Blog gold.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Given the restrictions around the club, getting a new manager may well make no difference to results. We may change playing style. Martinez has done that at Everton whilst the results go backwards. However there are still 6 clubs that outmuscle us financially.
Getting a good manager who has had success elsewhere will hopefully enable us to become more consistent and consolidate our position as best of the rest. And we may even challenge Spurs for 6th.
However to get up into the top 4 given that we can’t do it financially we will need a manager who like the list of Eric at 199 totally change a club. Unfortunately you can’t look and see who that will be. But they end up leaving a club much better off than when they joined.
I think that Garde’s restructuring of the OL academy shows that he has potential, but beyond that we will just have to wait and see.
Premandup(Quote)
Prem@235, I agree with all that.
kimtoon(Quote)
Prem – You are right there 6 clubs who currently out muscle us but we could be among them if we spent what we earn in addition to the reinvestment from player sales. Mikey Ashley must be very satisfied with Graham Carr as he has made him lots of money. Why doesn’t he allow him to scout players who have a higher value if he trusts his opinion? We would get better players and the profit from any sell on value would be greater. The reason in my view is simple; he’s only interested in the club ticking over, not improving and as long as he can buy for £4m and sell for £10-£15m he’s happy as we can just potter long without him having to put any money in to the club.
Stuart79(Quote)
Troysta: I simply said I would get behind Carver if he is manager even though he would not be my choice. Is that too hard to comprehend? He picked more attacking teams than Pardew. Is that too dificult to comprehend?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Get French Football
@GFN_France OFFICIAL: Crystal Palace announce the loan of Arsenal striker Yaya Sanogo until the end of the season:
kimtoon(Quote)
Ha! Eric why didn’t you get behind Pardew then if that’s your attitude?
Stuart79(Quote)
Get French Football
@GFN_France Demba Ba on @jplusun: “I will be supporting PSG when they play Chelsea!”
😆 😆 😆
kimtoon(Quote)
so the club might wait till end of season to get a new man in,makes sense more coaches to choose from.duznt bruceys contract run out in the summer.
hitman(Quote)
Stuart79: I said I might sound contradictory, but ugly people deserve a break sometimes as you should know first hand.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/daryl-janmaat-wants-newcastle-to-make-a-statement-over-new-head-coach-1-7046357
Don’t we all 🙄
kimtoon(Quote)
@243: childish, I know. But you have to realise the follow the leader (Troy) that Stuart usually writes.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric
You absolutely slated Carver after 2 games. Destroying him is not too strong a word to describe your opinions of him.
Now you will get behind him after 3 games.
Keep this up Psychsy. Fascinating behaviour this. Don’t be surprised if Kim tries to subtly ask what size clothing you are. Her psychology degree must be coming in handy. She will be ordering a straitjacket for you know it. You do suit white don’t you. ?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Whether it’s Pardew, Carver, Garde or any other realistic target. The best we can expect long term with a new manager in this set up is mediocrity and fan frustration.
The structure is well in place to maintain our position. Mikey has cracked it.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troysta: the second half against Hull was terrible followed by an abysmal surrender against Leicester. Why wouldn’t that deserve criticism? I said he played two good halfs but not in the same game. I would prefer someone better but fear that we might end up with the ugly get (git). So, I have to make the best of it.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Troysta: I think I will call you “Mr Consistency” from now on since everybody knows you repeat the same **** until you don’t.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Psychsy
I will repeat. You absolutely destroyed Carver stating you would never give him the job. He’s ugly angry and shyte. That was after 2 games.
After 3 games you would get behind him.
😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I don’t think I’ve read one post from you, Eric that has made any sense.
Stuart79(Quote)
Mr. Consistency: I would get behind Carver if he is given the job because I am a NUFC fan and not a Carver hater. I don’t want him, but would give him a chance if we can’t get someone better. We should have beat Burnley and we surrendered against Leicester.
I didn’t make my mind up after 2 games, he was Pardew’s lacky for 4 years. He has to prove he is his own man to get my respect – or we can fight in the playground as you would have us do 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stuart79: and you just repeat what Troy says.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Kim – I can understand Janmaat wanting the club to make a decision, but equally I’m pleased that they are giving it good consideration and not rushing it through. You would hope that the considered choice has a better chance of success.
Interesting though that Janmaat has also backed Carver, after Krul did at the weekend.
Sharpy17(Quote)
@kimtoon @239. I just said we should go for him on Saturday 🙄
shame we’re too distracted looking for a manager to get players in too. 😯
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
Stuart at 237
I think you underestimate the gap between us with a turnover of £100m, Spurs at £160m and Liverpool at £250m. Let alone the big 4 who are 2 -3 times that. We may by reinvesting every penny, with a good manager close the Gap on Spurs, but to say we could be among them requires spending on squad wages that is totally irresponsible. Liverpool can happily spend more than Spurs earn on wages alone. For us to compete with that what is needed is a good commercial director.
If we aim to have a wage bill of £70, maybe a bit more given TV rights then that is the biggest constrain on our achievement not the manager. Maybe if Ashley was still “loved” by the Fans, and he still owned SD outright then he might have been tempted to put £50m in sponsorship into the club and then we could catch Spurs, but that ain’t gonna happen now, and I can’t see the benefits to any owner to make that small step.
Premandup(Quote)
So we’ve whittled it down to 2-3 coaches. Are we interviewing for a floor-leader at SD?
anyway, it looks like it might be JC. lets get behind him if it is, if he does poorly, hopefully, thats more pressure on Ashley..
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
Eric – You need to learn to read if you think that.
Stuart79(Quote)
Mark – I think I would have preferred Joel Campbell rather than Sanogo personally – but either would have been a decent option for us I reckon.
We are still getting linked with Capel and Niang, who I think are decent players too, but I fear you’re right – the pursue of a new manager could see no new players arrive. It could also see no new manager arrive too 😯 . I hope I’m wrong, but it is Newcastle we are talking about here.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Prem – I didn’t mention spending as much as them. It is clear we have a decent scouting system – certainly better than Spurs. So if we were to invest a bit more there’s a possibility we could catch Spurs. They don’t buy that well and we do, so if Carrs choices are good in the lower end of the market maybe he could find us much better players shopping in a different market?
Hardly irresponsible.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stuart
Agree totally, Spurs are catchable and we don’t need to do it financially. But beyond them it becomes a big ask, and relies on them coming back to us, or a “Black Swan” coach such as those mentioned by Eric. I was querying your use of the word them, as it implied more than just catching Spurs.
Premandup(Quote)
The new head coach must be able to develop young players to potentially sell on for big fees, Strike up a good working relationship with Graham Carr, Accept a lower wage than the going rate & keep us in midtable.
Sounds like they sacked the perfect candidate to appoint Pardew… 🙄
CC(Quote)
to be honest FFPhas completely and utterly robbed football of its competitivness. Just a joke really.
Stuart79(Quote)
I wrote an article about that in the Summer. Totally Agree.
Premandup(Quote)
Eric Psycho
So you would get behind Carver if he was appointed as manager?
Why don’t you get behind him as temporary manager?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Stu – I agree with you regarding our scouting system and not having to spend a huge amount on players – when you consider our 2 best players at the moment (Sissoko & Perez) only cost around £3m to bring in.
Do you think this change to a head coach is a wise move, allowing Carr to find the gems and the coach to work with them whilst also developing young players like Satka, Streete, Bigi, Aarons, Armstrong and Roberts for example.
I wonder if that set up may at least allow everyone to know and focus on their own role?!.
We absolutely need to improve the commercial side of the club too, but for some bizarre reason, Ashley does seem to see that as important.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stuart 79
To be fair. You do copy everything I say. 😉 just jokin. I just think he means we sing from the same hymn sheet.
You are far more restrained than me. I can’t resist ridiculing a few of them, particularly mad Eric. 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Prem – it was a good article mate and put a bit of real perspective on where we really are as a ‘big club’.
I think some fans see 50k turning up every week as the indicator of club size, and don’t fully appreciate the actual financial difference between clubs – particularly the likes of Spurs & Liverpool.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Just been reading an article about Jack Cork at Saints. His contract runs out in the summer and he doesn’t look like he’s signing a new contract. I think he’s a quality midfielder and reckon we should go after him, either now for a low fee or certainly on a free in the summer.
We are expecting to loose Tiote or Sissoko at some point, and think Cork would be a good fit.
Sharpy17(Quote)
@sharpy. aye, I’d prefer Campbell too. seems like theyre both up for grabs, well only 1 now…
typical newcastle, players fly out the door in a day but it takes 6months to bring 1 in 🙄
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
Surely Spuds turnover must be decreasing rapidly, paying high wages and not qualifying for CL with only 36k fans.
I appreciate they pay more for season tickets and make more on advertising but the gap must be closing. It was £50m more turnover than us when in the CL.
Don’t know what the gap is now.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Mark – do you reckon Campbell is still available now that Arsenal have got rid Sanogo and Podolski – it may well leave them short.
Yeah I know what you mean about the length of time bringing players in. I’m hoping the new set up might make it easier and quicker, but I know what it really needs is for Ashley to let go of the purse strings a bit – that would make Charnleys negotiating easier.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Troy – No Idea but I would hope we were catching them rather than them falling back to us.
Premandup(Quote)
Sharpy@268, I agree on Liverpool mate but we should be better off than Spurs we always were before.
kimtoon(Quote)
That’s commercially .@274
kimtoon(Quote)
Latest reports just show these rags haven’t got a clue was is going on at the toon,some say this French guy wants the toon job now,others saying he does not want the job until the summer,others saying the delay is because he wants to bring in two of his own staff that are still under contract at Lyon so compo will have to be payed so jabba is thinking it over hence the delay,imo nobody knows the dam truth what jabba is doing
icedog(Quote)
Troy – I think the thing with Spurs is that they are miles ahead on the commercial side of things. We make our money on players sales at a big profit, where Spurs have developed their brand globally. The margin may have closed this season because we haven’t invested our profit where they have, but overall I think they would remain ahead year on year.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Troysta says @265:
“Eric Psycho
So you would get behind Carver if he was appointed as manager?
Why don’t you get behind him as temporary manager?”
Because I don’t want him as permanent manager. Is that beyond your comprehension Mr Consistency?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I actually don’t think I am that out of place in not wanting Carver. The Chron had him at 4% acceptance but they also had a bunch of managers in their poll that nobody would recognize on the street – Tommy Tuchel got like 20% and if he came to their Christmas party none of them would know who he was, even with the German accent.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Kim – like I said to Troy, I think Spurs have develop there brand globally and bring money into the club that way – as a result they have a squad of valuable players (assets as Ashley would see them). There is talk of them looking to flog around 6 squad players, which would immediately bring them in at least £50m – probably more to be honest, and it won’t really weaken them.
Our commercial brand is **** poor at the moment with everything NUFC having SD.com tagged to it. Big global firms don’t want to be flanked by SD or Wonga when it comes to advertisement. So we depend on player sale to generate our money – but that means we asset strip and if we had to sell players to make £50m plus then our squad would screwed.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Psycho
I’m not suggesting you get behind him to make him the next manager. But as he finds himself in this position of managing our team temporarily, why not support him for what he is. A temp coach.
You absolutely destroyed him.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
We may have a better scouting network than Spurs, but they are far more ambitious commercially and have the proper ambition required to challenge at the top. They also have a far better coaching team and regularly sell on even their “average” squad players for decent money year on year – how much would we get for Anita, Goof, Willo etc?
They produce a fair amount of young English talent. We seem to be improving in this area, Dummett is the obvious choice, fingers crossed Armstrong can make it (and Aarons assuming he stays with us) but otherwise we’re not great. The money Spurs could make on Kane should he keep improving at his current rate would be a hell of a lot too. Of course if they keep him they will be able to build a solid side, they have been plagued by average strikers who aren’t interested or are over the hill for ages now.
Not sure they are catchable with our current level of ambition…we need to rely on finding a lot more gems like Perez….and then selling them to keep pace with squad improvement.
Newkie(Quote)
What can I say, I don’t want Carver as manager and gave reasons for it. I say Mr. Consistency because he is consistently wrong.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
@Sharpy. yes i do mate. Campbell is out of contract soon so I reckon they’d sell for a small fee.
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
Mark – there’s a good reason for that. Wenger obviously doesn’t rate him (I don’t either) and it seems nobody else is in a hurry to sign him.
georgio(Quote)
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/01/13/man-united-prepare-stunning-swoop-for-newcastle-united-striker/
kimtoon(Quote)
I suggest no fan renews their season ticket until they have had time to do due diligence 😉
kimtoon(Quote)
Mark/Georgio – Campbell’s contract doesn’t run out til next summer. I’d take him as I think other than maybe Perez, he’s better than the rest of our forwards. But with 18mth still to run I reckon Arsenal would still want around £10m for the lad.
Kim – re Perez to Man Utd, I just don’t see it to be honest. He has talent but at the moment he isn’t high profile enough. Maybe in a few season if he progresses well with us, but not just now – not Man U anyway. They are signing the big name players as that is LVGs way – galacticos that will sell shirts Worldwide.
I think we better get used to papertalk linking young Perez with every club under the sun. Personally I think he’ll leave for Real Madrid one day.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Psycho
Hmm. 🙄
WTWCT
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Sharpy, Yeah I know, but thought I’d post it anyway.
kimtoon(Quote)
Gary Lineker @GaryLineker · 1h 1 hour ago
Brilliant tactics from Newcastle board to delay appointing their new manager so they don’t have to buy any players in the transfer window.
From firebug on another blog. Well said Gary!!!!
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Sharpy – I think we would be mad to pay 10 mil for Campbell as of now. I know he is young but what is the point in putting time into Sammy, Aarons and Armstrong if we buy someone that age and just destroy their chances of making it here, or increasing the chance they want to get out now.
He had a good world cup and I saw one or two good european matches from him in an Arsenal shirt, but he only managed 8 goals in the greek league playing for the team who completely dominate that league. Abeid managed seven goals, further back, in a weaker team, with less games!
Newkie(Quote)
Gary speaks wisely. He understands Mike and his henchmen. Why spend money when you can stall and do nothing?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I’ve just about had it with this Lambada business. I thought it was some sort of dance and now people tell me he’s a football manager.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFOSZ00Pn4
You see? I was right. The forbidden dance is Lambada.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
10mill 😯
more like 2 mate.
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
but youre right Sharpy. Wenger does indeed want him to stay.
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)
I want him to stay as well LPAM mate. I don’t want him with us. We have Perez who is already far better.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Newkie – if Arsenal offered £12m plus Campbell for Sissoko I’d take it. I know what you are saying about our young uns and wouldn’t want to hinder Armstrong and Roberts development. But with Cisse 29 and looking for a move (if you believe the papers), Rivière struggling to settle in and Chucky unlikely to stay – plus I don’t think Campbell is pushing on as they hoped.
I know it would be a fairly inexperienced front 3, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Aarons, Perez and Campbell up there. All 3 are pacey and technically gifted.
I don’t want to see the back of Sissoko like, but he’s said 4 times in as many weeks that Arsenal is where he wants to be, so I reckon the writing is on the wall there.
Sharpy17(Quote)
@Sharpy.
that would be the easiest option, cash plus a player but Newcastle don’t do that, we just sell and dont replace.
I wouldnt be happy with 12 plus a player because that 12 won’t be invested like it should be.. 👿
Lord Pardew aka Mark(Quote)