A quick round up

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Well not much positive to write about after our embarrassing 5-0 defeat against Man City at the weekend.
So I thought I would do a bit of scatter gun round up of things that have been said from then,
1st up JC has came out and has called for more service to his 10-goal top scorer.
Carver said: “He’s our top scorer. I felt sorry for him (at Man City).
“He worked so hard – he had a great effort at goal just after half-time.
“But he never got any service because we were always defending.
“We knew we would go there and defend for long periods, but we didn’t defend well enough.
“It’s not like they opened us up with a great goal or great strike from 30 yards.“All the goals were preventable.”
Now Carver wants Cisse and United’s best players to step up to the plate against Villa.
When asked who he thought were the main men at Newcastle, Carver said: “Coloccini, Tim Krul, Moussa Sissoko and Papiss Cisse.”
Carver was reeling after the hammering at Man City, but has vowed to bounce back.
He said: “I’m disappointed, but it’s not the end of the world.
“We will get judged on the games against Aston Villa and teams like that.”
United will be without Jack Colback for the home clash with Aston Villa, but will welcome back Remy Cabella.
Daryl Janmaat will be assessed after picking up a groin strain on Saturday, with Ryan Taylor standing by to take his place at right-back.

Moussa Sissoko Has been talking aswell saying he and his team mates must stick together in the wake of the defeat – and he has pleaded with the club’s fans to stay with the team.
And the 25-year-old has promised a reaction against relegation-threatened Aston Villa at St James’s Park on Saturday.
“The fans have been behind us all season, when we’ve won and when we’ve lost,” Sissoko told the Gazette.
“We have to say thank you and do the best every game. We try to win the next game for us and for the fans.
“We have to stay together. To lose 5-0 is hard, but if we want to do something for the rest of the season we have to stay together.
“We have to work hard and be ready for Saturday.” Sissoko said: “It’s a team. I have a responsibility to the team, and I will try to do my best.
“I can play well and I can play bad sometimes, but as a team we try to play well together. We’ll see in the next game.”
“We conceded a penalty too early.
“When they scored after 20 seconds, it’s hard to do something.
“Now we have to learn about this game and train very hard and be ready for the next game.
“The plan was to stay solid and compact and try to score one goal if we can, but we conceded a goal too early.
“Everybody knows we didn’t play well. We have to learn about this game and try to win the next game.
“We have to be ready and stay focused. It’s a massive game for everybody and we have to get the three points.”

Daryl Janmaat has also been speaking after the City game, “We say sorry, we have to apologise because it’s not good enough.
“To come here you know it will be a hard evening.
“If you give a stupid goal away in the first minute you know it will make it even more difficult.”
Janmaat says that there can be no excuses after the heavy loss – despite City’s expensively-assembled team.
He said: “Yes of course (they are world class).
“It is still disappointing.
“We have to do better than this.”
Janmaat was particularly riled by the penalty conceded after just 28 seconds when Mike Williamson and Vurnon Anita got in a mix up.
The straight-talking Dutch defender said: “They (City) don’t need extra favours but that’s what they got.
“We shoot ourselves in the foot.
“It’s stupid. There are no positives.
“We have to work hard for next week and prepare ourselves.
“We have to give the fans something back – and that’s three points.”
Janmaat admitted that harsh words had also taken place in the dressing room at City.
“There were some hard words but that’s to stay inside,” he revealed.
And he says that Saturday’s game against Aston Villa can’t come quick enough as his team-mates look to make amends.
He said: “It’s important to get three points for them against Aston Villa back at home.” The Dutch international picked up what looked like a groin injury at Eastlands and was replaced by Ryan Taylor, he will be assessed this week.

Ryan Taylor said “We can build confidence through the week on the training pitch.
“It’s going to be a tough week. We will have a meeting on Monday, discussions about the game and a lot of people standing up and having their say on what went on.
“That’s what we need – to get it out in the open, have a chat about it and then focus on training well and making sure we are fully prepared to face Aston Villa next weekend.
“We have to put it right against Villa and get three points for the fans, because we let them down.
“All we can do is apologise and try to correct it for them next Saturday.”

Fabricio Coloccini Our Club Captain Coloccini has as usual not came out to say a word, that I can find after the defeat to City. I find that a total disgrace, that is part of the Club Captains job but then I have never believed that he has been a proper Captain of our Club.

That ends the round up, So from what I get from all the interviews is that everyone knows that they have to come out on saturday and get the 3 pts, but then we have been in this position before and been let down again. But it wont be long until we find out if the players can walk the walk..

142 thoughts on “A quick round up

  1. Thanks Dave!

    Sharpy – I read the Garde thing the other way. He was being very respectful to the regime. Smart thing to do. If he wasn’t interested he could just say that with nothing at all to lose. With no improvement in sight from Carver and Co let’s hope by May they’ll let him bring his own team with him.

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  2. Dave – which is exactly why we need the new man to come in and try to change that.

    Georgio – certainly from the first comments, yes he’s being respectful. But the bit about not missing being on the bench – that’s the bit that worries me mate. Most managers hate being out of work and crave being back among players and that competition.

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  3. @2

    Being a long way from the action I’m pretty much immunised against the apathy that is gripping the club’s fans – apart from what I read on here, that is. However, I can tell by watching telly that the atmosphere at St James’ is not what it should be and blogs are choc-a-bloc with fully pissed off people.

    It’s a pity that the Newcastle hierarchy don’t plug into the buzz that can exist on match day – instead of actively discouraging it.

    Having said that, though, I still feel that a lot of the hatred is a result of hysteria created by the internet (and trolls on blogs). There’ve been many times in our past when it has been worse than this, but we didn’t have internet then, just word of mouth.

    Will always support the team. No matter what. No matter whom. I pay about $1000 a year to watch every Newcastle game. There is no doubt whatsoever that I’ll pay that again next season and will keep doing it until the day I die.

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  4. Garde’s said many times he’s having a year out. I agree though that it’s almost impossible to second guess the regime. Cheap seems to be the important criteria in everything. I mean – our board? There’s only 2 of them and Irving’s just the accountant. Charnley’s the general manager – make sure there’s plenty of toilet rolls Lee! All quotes come direct from either Wendy or Bishop.

    Shameful. Absolutely shameful.

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  5. Oh and while I remember from last thread…

    Geordie Deb: Football is on Foxtel. Pay TV. Otherwise you have to use the internet, unless you can find a pub with a screen open at 2am.

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  6. Bris – I can’t speak for 50k fans that turn up week in week out, only from mine and that of those I know who go to the game. I’m conscious this may be dismissed as sentimental *******, but it’s legitimate reasons for some, so they count.
    For example, the first game I went to was with my uncle & cousin – over 25yrs ago. At that time my cousin had been going with his dad for around 5yrs – my Uncle about 15yrs at that time. Basically, to date, my uncle has been going for around 40yrs now, my cousin 30yrs and he now has been taking his son for nearly 5yrs – 3 living generations, and despite the football and bull**** politics at the club, my cousins boy still loves match day and being out with dad & grandad as one of the men (he’s just turned 10 😆 ). I can’t tell you now that it my cousin turned in his & his sons ST, it would break his heart!!.
    I have a mate who’s seperated from his missus, and he takes their daughter to match days too, and it’s real quality time for them both. It’s her time with dad and literally nothing would get in the way of it for her.
    Her ringtone on her pink phone is local hero 😆

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  7. Stu – these 2 comments from Garde is what I find particularly worrying:

    “I can’t say that I am desperate to return to the bench, far from it”

    And

    “I don’t close the door to anything or to take another year off”

    He just doesn’t particularly sound overly enthusiastic to me mate.

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  8. Sharpy – I kind of think that’s a standard negotiation start point. He can’t show he’s too keen as NUFC can then start off offering him a lower salary – if that’s possible of course! 🙁

    Or he could just be hiding the disappointment of not getting the job by saying he’s not that fussed anyway..

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  9. With regards to people not going to the match. I honestly don’t think I will go to another this season. I will give my ticket to one of my mates if they want to go but they feel pretty similar to me to be honest. It’s the boredom for me that kills the match. I find myself sat there bored watching dross. I might as well watch it at home on my laptop. Many still go because it’s a day out on the lash with their mates and I get that but there are many who are just sick and I get that too.

    I would like to ask though; why should the supporters support the club if the regime aren’t doing the same? Why should the supporters invest in the club if the regime aren’t doing the same?

    By continuing to go the supporters are supporting the regime but where do they draw the line? What does Ashley have to do for the die hard supporters decide enough is enough?

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  10. Stuart79 even if the fan’s did boycott for example he would be forced to buy a few players in january but with the intention to sell a few in january. I don’t see the harm in watching the match at home or in a pub with a few mates. It doesn’t mean your any less of a fan but probably the best way to get back at him. I hope he moves to rangers eventually and hope it’s sooner rather than later.

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  11. Well done Dave, was gonna try and do one but me dad got rushed into hospital yesterday so was up there. Hopefully good news on Janmatt starting, if not Raylor will step up and hopefully not break down mid game. I want to see Abeid start too and no excuse not to play 2 up front against Villa either, we need to start scoring some goals as early as possible to take some pressure of the defence.

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  12. Regarding Remy Garde , I think it’s pretty obvious the club have spoken to him about the coach role or else he’d be free to say they hadn’t. This gives me some hope that they may appoint someone other than JC. The real question for me is whether he’s any good and suited to us. Has he got the kahunas to manage us given the fan base we have and the owner more importantly. He seems a little flakey to me, bit on the I can take it or leave it mentality side. You need a passionate character to manage us with no little thick skin too.

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  13. Stu – your post @15 smacks of double standard a bit mate, and as its me highlighting it im sure your heckles are already up and you’re ready to go on the attack 😆 but allow me to explain.

    You say you won’t go to another game, and fair play to you for that. You come on here actively encouraging perfect strangers not to go and look to 15k or more to boycott the games to hit Ashley where it hurts!! … But then you say you will turn your ticket over to one of your mates 😕 😆
    If your own pals aren’t ready to buy into a boycott, what chance do you have of converting strangers? 😆

    I’m not having a pop, or looking for a reaction, but I did find it funny.

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  14. Cheers Dave, not as daft as ya look 😉

    Sharpy@12 I think his comments are spot on. “If” he’s been approached why would he want to seem too enthusiastic when there’s still negotiating to be done? Play it cool and don’t appear desperate are the best way for him when it comes to negotiating a contract and his role at the club. It probably won’t work with fatman but the bloke has to try 😉

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  15. Kim – you make 2 very good points in your post about Garde. Firstly if he is maintaining that silence, that would suggest that negotiations with him aren’t dead in the water – and you’re right, it could well be a sign that the club aren’t settled on JC – which is very encouraging.
    Your 2nd point is a good one too though, in that does Garde have the stomach for it?. What were the real reasons he left his last club, and is there a risk he’d throw the towel at the first thing that didn’t go his way.
    NUFC actually needs someone with Pardews thick skin and arrogance (to a degree) in my opinion.

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  16. Richie – maybe, but he doesn’t talk as though he’s overly keen to get back into managing/coaching at all.

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  17. Cheers Dave
    I wonder if he made those remarks before Sat game or after imo there is more than a new coach needed he won’t get to sign any player he wants but he should know how much is going to be spent on new players at least

    Kim hope Dad is ok

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  18. Ice – I think that’s an unrealistic expectation to be fair mate. I mean, how without knowing whether bids will come in for our best players, how is Charnley meant to know what the budget will be?! 🙄

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  19. Given the state the team are in I’d just about take any new manager. Carver’s (along with a handful of players) really not up to it and we’re about to see that in the final games. Apart from the kids the only ones I’d keep are Sissoko, Abeid, Janmaat, Haidara, Perez, Sammi, Colback, De jong, Dummett (maybe).

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  20. SHARPY Charley must have a idea how much jabba will invest in the 1st team and which players they will sell at a given price and so forth imo does not take much working out surely they must have a rough idea otherwise whats the point of hiring people to run any football club,just let jack down the street run it

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  21. Ice – never mind Jack, there’s no one running it. Charnley and Irving watch on, Ashley takes all decisions. Complete pile . . .

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  22. Sharpy – I typed: “I will give my ticket to one of my mates if they want to go but they feel pretty similar to me to be honest.”

    Now where does it state they will accept it? In fact I go out of my way to say they feel the same as me…

    I am also not forcing anybody to boycott, I am saying it’s the only way to get rid of this disease, if people want to still go, I am not going to have a go at them for wanting to go and see the team, whether that’s my mates or complete strangers.

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  23. Ice – I know mate, I was being cynical. You would hope with the TV money coming in that they would have an amount earmark.
    I would love to know what goes on behind closed doors on a daily basis – are they working on a new manager, are they working on deals for the likes of Sammy & Aarons, are they working on pre-contract deals for the summer or any new deals for that matter?.

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  24. Sharpy…I know he doesn’t, but could be for the reasons I’ve stated. It strengthens his bargaining hand if he doesn’t show he’s too keen (or desperate) or that he hasn’t got other options. If he really wasn’t too fussed about wanting to return to the “bench” then he’d just dismiss it out of hand imo… you have much to learn about life young jedi 😉 😆

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  25. Ice – Sharpy is right (for once 😯 😀 ). Charnley hasn’t got a clue what budget there will be in the summer. Every purchase is funded by a sale so until we know what money we will get for Sissoko and Krul it will be difficult to go out and buy anybody.

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  26. Stu – 😯 you better go have a lie down mate!!. I bet that stuck in ya throat 😆 😉

    Richie – I’m not much of a poker player either mate 🙁 😆

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  27. Well jabba has bitten off more than he can chew for once imo,I think he and his arse lickers are going to lose out in this Rangers carry on there seems to be enough shareholders to shift his gang off the board even King will cover his loan to the club but getting his creeps off the board will hurt him more than the loan,pity I was hoping he would feek off to Rangers

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  28. Ice – I don’t know much about this King fella, but I reckon Ashley’s ‘stabilisation’ is probably what Rangers needs to be honest – financially speaking, not football.

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  29. I don’t know Ice I just dont think Jabba likes to lose so he could still have something up his sleeve. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he will be using dirty tricks to get what he wants.

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  30. Cheers for the good wishes lads, he looked brighter today so fingers crossed. On the Rangers situation, I would think he has something up his sleeve, he doesn’t do losing, well not in money matters anyhow.

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  31. Kim/Dave – doesn’t he still own the naming rights to the ground as well?. The Gers fans may find there side playing in the SD Arena before too long

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  32. Sharpy I am 99% certain he has gave up his naming rights which he did have, the thing with Jabba is that he wouldnt have gave them up for no good reason, he will probably have his fat fingers in lots of things at Rangers. So god knows what he has tied up there

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  33. Interesting match: majestic superclub who have won every european and world club competition & the former 3rd division play off winning financial cheats who are followed by utter ******s

    Still proud to have the great Barcelona on our list of scalps, Such class lending the fairs cup for our aniversary and the way they acted with Abidals and Villanovas illnesses and their representation at Bobby Robsons memorial

    Great club

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  34. CC only time I disliked Barca was when LVG was manager he’s a arse of a bloke he even refused to shake toon managers hand after we beat them

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  35. I remember when we played alkmar and van gaal was celebrating in front of our bench when they scored 🙄

    So suited to his current employers

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  36. I hate LVG more than Alex Ferguson – and that’s alot!!.

    I think Messi is the classiest player of my lifetime. He’s just different class, but I wonder if he’s a Lance Armstrong waiting to happen?!. I reckon one day it will be discovered that he’s actually a robot of something like that 😯 😆

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  37. I think the problem is that City only had a training match on Saturday and it took them a little while to readjust to competitive football.

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  38. And for those who think Newcastle fans get ripped off, Brisbane Roar are playing a home game in the Asian Champions League tonight – on the Gold Coast, 60km away (playing all 3 group games there). Can you imagine Newcastle playing their home games in the ECL at Leeds?

    You guys have it easy.

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  39. Great win for Newkie’s Ale Stars over the league leaders opens up the championship again. The battle for those top 8 spots seems to be narrowing. With 9 games remaining I reckon you’ll need 60 pts to make it.

    Top 10:

    1 Stripes and no stars 60
    2 Solano’s Trumpet 57
    3 Haven’t Got a Kalou 52
    4 Newbriscastle Roar 49
    5 Inter Yasista 48
    6 Joshua 45
    7 WHY SO SERIOUS ? 45
    8 Newkie’s Ale Stars 45
    9 Niknak Utd 44
    10 WaWa Toures 39

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  40. Bris – I had a nightmare week this week!!. Took a hiding NUFC style 🙁 first time out the top 8 👿 (nik nak Utd)
    No need for a new head coach just yet, but I’ll be back Newkie!!

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  41. Begas

    On the point of mass hysteria being created by blog trolls then I suggest you pack it in. 😉

    When I went as a young lad to the games, there was no roof on the Gallowgate or the Leaves and we played in the old second division in front of 15k fans. Bobby Shinton was our top striker with 7 goals all season.

    I bloody loved gannin to the games.

    My son who is 12yrs, the same age as I was back then, asked me to cancel his season ticket cos he found going to the games boring.

    He was watching premier league footy, state of the art stadium with 52k fans.

    That says a lot to me about the soul of the club.

    Mind, he never said this, but I sometimes wonder if he felt embarrassed sitting next to me in my trunks, Cape and wrestling boots. 😯

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  42. Troy – my boy said he wanted to stop his Judo this week as well – forget fans, it’s kids that are bloody fickle!!!!

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  43. Doesn’t that little anecdote support my point? With no internet around kids loved the day out.With internet around they pick up on the moral panic and want to conform.

    This despite the better standard of football and better stadium now.

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  44. Us Living in London exile, and him playing for them, my 9-year old lad supports QPR, and he loves going – small ground, fans still really behind their team, sitting close to the pitch side. Hell, I love going, it’s more like SJP when I was not much older than him. So glad it wasn’t Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs.

    Bad time to ride through lads. Ashley will pass. The money in the Prem will pass. We’ll still be here.

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  45. Troy/Kim – that’s excellent 😆

    Bris – i think you’re probably right mate. When I was an ankle biter the best exposure to other teams I got was highlights on MOTD and the odd televised FA cup games. But generally the only 90mins of footy I got was a trip to SJP.
    Now with the Internet & Sky, kids can watch 90mins of even club around the world pretty much. Forget about the bad politics at the club, the exposure to other clubs highlights the piss poor football on show at SJP for a long time now.

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  46. Love the videos of the French lads trying there best to speak Geordie… 🙂

    At the same time , I find it shocking that ou club captain Collocini never makes utterances, and never gives video interviews after games. I don’Ät think I have ever seen him give an interview after a live Sky game. Maybe it’s a sponsor issue ? All the same, it really is a poor show if you ask me… Everone else fronts up to explain a bad performance, yet Collo is nowhere to be seen… 🙄

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  47. MM I have never seen him give an interview full stop, apart from a 1 min voice recording that Prem put up a while back. I really cant see it being a sponsor issue 😯

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