This series would not be possible if it were not for some excellent past articles constructed by contributors to sites such as the Chronicle, Spartacus-Educational and several other open sources – so thank you.
Len White was born in Skellow near Doncaster in 1930. His love of the game was formed whilst turning out for Upton Colliery before he joined Rotherham United in May 1948. Len was employed a right winger and managed 15 goals in 43 appearances for the Millers during his two seasons with them.
By now Newcastle United had taken notice of Len. We needed a replacement for the ageing Tommy Walker, the Newcastle winger who had now turned 30-years-old and was beginning his inevitable decline. Len signed for the Magpies in February 1953 for £12,000 – leading to Walker’s exit in 1954 following 12 loyal and dependable years with the Toon. The same season would see the arrival of Jimmy Scoular for £26,000, with Jimmy immediately being handed the Captain’s armband. Len would find himself in the company of some very good players in the shape of Scoular, Jackie Milburn and 1 goal-in-4 left winger Bobby Mitchell. We have some brilliant wide players back in those days and knew how to supply the forward line, something we sadly lack today.
Len White was signed as a winger. He made his debut against Liverpool and scored 2 goals in 12 appearances that season. The following season Len scored 14 goals in 29 appearances from the wing – helping the Toon to finish Division One in 8th place. In 1955 Newcastle would win the FA Cup for the 3rd time in 5 years. Len had scored in a 2-0 semi final victory versus York following an assist by Jackie Milburn, which you can see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIWOA6pnBo
In the final, Len set Jackie up from a corner kick to put the Toon one up against Man City after just 1 minute. City pulled one back by half time, but they had lost a player to injury. This was significant because substitutions were not introduced until 1965, so the Magpies were playing against 10 men. In the second half Jimmy Scoular tuned into a beast, spraying the ball across field with a series of pin point passes to set the likes of Mitchell and White off on marauding runs down the wings. It was a real Captain’s performance and Newcastle would go on to win comprehensively with a 3-1 victory.
Interestingly, Wor Jackie had spend a lot of time injured in the run up to the final and the manager Dugald Livingstone had planned not to start Milburn. Back in those days, managers had to present their proposed line-ups to the Board and upon seeing Milburn excluded, Livingstone was ordered to play him. They could see a fan backlash if their hero was left out. A a result of this forced change, Len White was removed from the team. However he was given a reprieve when Reg Davies went down with laryngitis. Lucky Len!
White had an unspectacular season following the FA Cup win, but did find himself playing as a centre forward following injuries to Wor Jackie and Vic Keeble. By the end of 1958 Len was the undistributed #9, following in the footsteps of the great Hughie Gallagher. He was unstoppable, running at players with power and pace, creating his own goals and getting the Gallowgate end on their feet in rapturous applause on many an occasion. He was only 5’6’’, but as proven by many great diminutive players down the years, sized means nothing so long as you have the talent and drive to succeed. Ken McKenzie, the Newcastle reporter for The Journal, described Newcastle’s second goal during a 4-1victory over Man City in 1958;
“A solo dribble by Len White from 15 yards inside his own half ending with a great 12-yard shot into the net past the advancing Bert Trautmann, the best goalkeeper in football, made memorable the burial of the relegation blues in the St James’ Park floodlights last night. The crowd of 53,280 cheered a back to form Newcastle off the field for a stirring show.” That Ryan Giggsesque goal helped keep Newcastle in the top flight.
In the next 2 seasons Len would score 53 goals in 70 games. The 1961 season would see Len score 28 goals in 33 games. Len took part in two spectacular wins in the 1959-1960 season. The first was an 8-2 drubbing of Everton at St. James’ Park. Newcastle were not doing well in the League and nobody expected the Toon to come up with much, however Len was in devastating form and secured a hat-trick by half time as the Magpies went in 4-0 up at the break. Expectations had been so low, only in the region of 23,000 fans turned up. In January 1960 Len would secure another hat-trick in a stunning 7-3 win against Manchester United, with 4 goals being scored at the Leazes End. There were calls made for Len to be recognised by England, but the call never came.
By the end of the season Len had been moved to outside left, but the goals continue to flow and he scored a screamer against Wolves in a goal regarded as goal of the season. Unfortunately his footballing year would end prematurely in March 1961. A nasty tackle came in from Spurs’ Dave McKay during a 2-1 victory for the Toon in a year that we were again fighting relegation whilst Spurs were aiming for the double. We had won that game having gone 1 down. That’s the difference between then and now, fighting spirit. Our current crop need to read up about our past hero’s and realise what wearing the shirt means.
Len would never truly recover from that tackle and was moved on to Huddersfield Town in 1962. He would return to St. James’ park in 1963 with the Terriers, receiving a massive applause before helping his new side take all 3 points in a 2-1 victory. He’d go on to turn out for Stockport County before retiring in 1966. Despite his retirement, he’d play on in non-league football into his 50th year! Over 25 years after his Newcastle exit, the fans arranged a testimonial for him in 1989 – such was their admiration for him. Of course Newcastle United would not allow this to happen to St.James’ (why?!), so it was done at Whitley Bay and 2,000 fans turned out. This Newcastle United legend passed away in 1994, aged 64. No personal controversies in this bloke’s career. He was described as quiet and hard working. A proper pro.
Newcastle record: 245 appearances, 197 goals. What a record. He is a 3rd highest total goal scorer in history, behind only Alan Shearer (206) and Jackie Milburn (201). What is so impressive is that a lot of Len’s appearances came as a winger. Furthermore, Shearer need 395 appearances to reach his 206 goals, whilst Wor Jackie needed 399.
Written by Shamrock.
Shamrock another cracking thread with a lot of work put into it, just glad I got the link inserted this time
Big Dave(Quote)
Len White was a bit before my time but his record is very impressive. I wish we had him in the team now. Good read Big Dave.
Terry(Quote)
Oh sorry good read Shamrock. Only 245 appearance’s and 197 goals.
Terry(Quote)
Slot before my time I must say. Still a great article.
Stuart79(Quote)
Ice will remember this one well as the replay was the same day as his 30th birthday 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Thanks Shamrock loved it.
Was great as a kid watching Len and the trio of Alchurch,White,Eastham were the best in the lge at that time,
Len also played c/f for England “B”team England had two teams those days his leap was unreal for his size and could those old case balls harder
than these modern day players can with the floaters they use now,also Alchurch held the record of hitting the post/crossbar more than any other player one year,was at the game when Mackey “done him”who was one of the dirtiest players ever to play the game
icedog(Quote)
DAVE aye think it was your 50th that day too maybe you don’t remember as it was rare for you to be sober those days but I’ll keep you right 😆 😆
icedog(Quote)
Sorry about the spelling mistakes – and missing the fact I had put in undistributed instead of undisputed!
Ice it’s a pleasure and thanks for the extra info. Must have been something to watch a team yo-yo in the league, but always put effort in and have areal go at the Cups. We are just a passionless corporate machine these days… I do enjoy doing the research on the players of yesteryear, gives an insight to our rich history both in terms of players and the club as a whole.
Shamrock(Quote)
Oh and well done Dave for getting the link up!
Shamrock(Quote)
Shamrock I sent you an email mate did you get it
Ice thats away before my time mate
Big Dave(Quote)
SHAMROCK those days the crowd figures were never right my dad always took me in the “family paddock” right where the players came out which was the dearest part of the ground those days,as a kid I would wander about inside as those days if you were not in the que by 12.30 you missed kick off at 3pm such was the crowd,I used to watch men put half the money on the little hole and the guy used to allow them to climb over the turnstile used to happen a lot so god knows what the real crowd was as ime sure it happened at the other turnstiles
icedog(Quote)
My favourite player of all time. I can still remember that goal against Man City to this day; one of the best goals I’ve ever seen. I was sitting on the wall behind the gallowgate nets so had a perfect view of it.
Mal(Quote)
My dad used to lift me over the turnstile and just drop some amount of money in the hole so it only recorded my dad and not me lol
icedog(Quote)
Shamrock @ 8 does it not sadden you a little when your researching and realising that we are only a shadow of what we were ?
I know it wasnt all rosey then but there was always hope.
Big Dave(Quote)
Yes it does Dave. Even back as far as 20 years ago the vast majority of our squad consisted of British nationals. As a result, the league and Cups meant everything to them. These days British players are rare, especially in our squad. Why would a foreign national give a **** about winning the FA Cup? It meant nothing to them growing up. They dont truly care about the team either, its just a pay check. Yes the Premier League is the most lucrative in the world – but it’s not the best (Champion’s League track record confirms this). Meanwhile, British talent has been buried by too many foreign imports. Youngsters dont get developed because there is too much money to lose and even locl youngsters are not making it into the development squads – we are sourcing the future athletes from abroad and developing them instead. It’s a vicious circle and the rot is not going to stop any time soon. Meanwhile the soulless Mike Ashley will exploit this by continuing to go with the cheap foreign imports in order to tread water and keep the money rolling in – but it wont be any fun for us.
Take Manure vs Arsenal the other day – 4 Brits out of 22. WTF? This league is a disaster zone for local teams and the National side. Maybe getting relegated a couple of times is a good thing – at least we will see players busting a gut week in, week out. My only worry bout going down is MA crushing us with the debt we owe him. The blood sucking leech wont even pay the club for the free advertising his company receives.
Shamrock(Quote)
The article doesn’t mention his partnership with George Eastham., which was mainly responsible for the 59/60 victories over Everton & Man Utd. Missed the Everton game because I was playing just down the road (the noise coming from SJP was incredible) but I’ll never forget the Man Utd game and especially Eastham’s goal where he virtually walked the ball into the net while the defence worried about a possible pass to White.
geordieviking(Quote)
GV Eastham would walk it in as he had a very weak shot in fact a lot of fans called him Kitten power
icedog(Quote)
What a lovely article and so accurate too. Like Iceburg I was at White Hart Lane when the dirty tackle by McKay ruined Lenny’s career at the Magpies! McKay in turn got his leg broken and I was overjoyed. I thought he was finished but the b****r came back for Derby County and played more games before he got done again. If ever a footballer deserved to be “done” it was him. When he finished he got lots of acclaim but he was hated on Tyneside.
Len was a wonderful player who ALWAYS gave his all for the Magpies. He, like Jackie, would be priceless today.
Tom Page(Quote)
TOM P spot on there mate,and so true
icedog(Quote)
Shamrock, Wonderful article mate, well done. Well I never got to watch him as I was too young, he had that bad tackle on him the month after I was born in 1961. All the same I knew bits and bobs about him and others from that era from books and hearing stuff from older Toon fans. How I wish we had the likes of him now.
Ice, interesting such a short guy had a big leap, makes you wonder what the hell is wrong with Sissoko 😕 all that height yet he can’t jump for toffee. 🙄
Feel really sorry for the older fans as our demise must be gut wrenching having seen what we once were. It’s bad enough having witnessed the KK years to see us fall so far. The heady days of cup final wins must seem a dream, where as now it’s just a nightmare.
kimtoon(Quote)
I attended my first ever game at the age of 9 & it was a home game against Man U. but I can’t be sure exactly when. I remember that it ended 1-1 but looking at the records it was either 23rd April (1957-8 season) or 13th Sept. (1958-9 season) 1958 both of which ended 1-1. Whichever it was it started with me sitting on the wall at the front of the Popular Side while my dad stood at the back. So began a lifetime of supporting the Toon with it’s highs (not too many of those!) & lows (FAR too many of those) but the greatest player I ever saw play for the Toon was Len White. He was a marvellous dribbler, was amazing in the air for such a little bloke & had an explosive shot & he has the third greatest goals to games ratio of any centre forward who has ever played for Newcastle (as the fantastic stats quoted by Shamrock above attest.). That means, incredibly, that he was more prolific than Jackie Milburn, Malcolm McDonald & Alan Shearer – all usually quoted as the best centre forwards Newcastle have ever had. (Only Hughie Gallagher with 143 goals in 174 matches & Andy Cole with 68 goals in 84 matches were more prolific although they played for the Magpies for a far shorter time than Len). He was never capped for England despite calls for this to happen (Bobby Smith, the Spurs centre forward was resident in the England team at that time) although he did score an eight-minute hat-trick for a Football League side against the Irish in Nov. 1958. I still remember amazing goals he scored against Preston & Wolves and I idolised him & that fantastic inside forward trio of Allchurch, White & Eastham. My memories of him are vivid & it seemed like I watched him for many years at Newcastle but it could only have been three seasons at the most & I remember being so upset when Dave McKay broke Len’s leg with a dirty tackle from behind in 1961. He was never the same again after that & I was gutted when he was sold to Huddersfield in Feb.1962. There have been some wonderful players to pull on the famous black & white shirt – Tony Green (another, whose career was cut short through injury), Gazza, Peter Beardsley, Kevin Keegan, Malcolm McDonald, Ginola, Alan Shearer (make your own list) – but Len White was the best I ever saw!!
La Pie(Quote)
So Carvers response to a team who can’t defend, pass, run, create or score is to give them two days off… What is Nero doing in his mansion in Herts?
Stuart79(Quote)
LA PIE, nice to see you on here and great to hear your memories too. 🙂
kimtoon(Quote)
Stu, Think I’m getting past caring anymore.
kimtoon(Quote)
Stuart: Ugly John didn’t just give the players a couple of days off he decided to have a game of golf:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3086535/Newcastle-United-fans-angered-John-Carver-attends-charity-golf-event-week-relegation-decider.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Eric Sykes(Quote)
“I’m off for a game of golf like” said Ugly John. “Clear me mind and not see anybody in the Toon because I wouldn’t want them saying owt to me like, about being ****. I have done the best job anyone could do and deserve a day off even though I said this was the most important day in years only 2 f-ing days ago!!! Still, the players will be much better off not having to listen to my drivel so “watch me hit this drive”.” LLLLLLLLDL.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Carvs said: “howay like, this was set up months ago and I only said on Saturday that this was the most important week in years for the club. Why should I concentrate on my job and not go on a bit of a jolly? I could have sent 500 quid to the charities and said I had the most important few days of my life to take care of. But that’s not me like, I would rather just yap and pay lip service – the players understand that now which is one of the reasons they have given up on me – no plan, no tactics, no chance”.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Len White was my favourite player and it was a tragedy when he was cut down in his prime by Dave McKay.I think he would have broke Jackies record but for this and gone on to be an England regular.His testimonial was a great occasion for me as I got him to sign the match programme for me which I still have.
jim(Quote)
http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/05/100-years-old-newcastle-fan-says-this-is-most-disappointing-season-hes-ever-seen/
kimtoon(Quote)
You revived some of my earliest memories of going to St James’Park.
I used to pay 1/3d. at the turnstile and head for the 12×12 fence which was located at the top of that area (the east end) opposite the stand, it was both wide enough and high enough to stand on and gave a great view.
Of course I got into a position closer to the Gallowgate end, in order to watch my hero Bobby Mitchell do his thing on the left wing.
Yeah we had some good goal-scorers at the time, Jackie, Len White, George Robledo and of course Bobby Dazzler.
With former Portsmouth right half Dorty Jimmy Scoular directing traffic and dissuading the opposition from attacking on his side of the pitch .
Course we had a great goalie in Ronny Simpson and Alf McMichael holding down the left back position for years, with big Frank Brennan controlling the defense at center half.
As stated there was no real accounting for crowd size, but there were no doubt many times the crowd exceeded fifty five thousand, jammed together like sardines and for those advocating a return to the terraces, you really don’t want to go there, it was awful, especially for kids.
chuck(Quote)
Good article Shamrock. Way before my time but I recall my dad mentioning him. Could do with a player like him now!!!
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Pardew must be laughing under his breath at our plight.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
SHAMROCK looks like you have drawn some new bloggers on to the site,yes us older fans have some great memorys and saw players that were proud to pull on the shirt,pity some younger fans have only the jabba
nightmare to remember,it must also be a nightmare to past players who gave their all to see what’s happening now
icedog(Quote)
icedog@33, you’re dead right there mate.
Munich Mag(Quote)
Welcome to Chuck, Jim, Lea Pie, Geordie Viking, Mal and welcome bck again to Tom Page. Really good to have you all visit and share your memories with us. I really do hope you continue to check in and give your opinion on things, people like you (and Ice) have seen it all and your words are valued 🙂
Shamrock(Quote)
I think its time like this with jabba turning our club into a fans nightmare and making them feel a laughing stock that your mind drifts to times gone
by and maybe never return a little thing comes back to me J Charlton in his Leeds days the ppress giving Leeds all the plaudts and Charlton claiming he started the ploy of standing in front and jumping up and down
in front of the keeper to put him off on corners frfree kicks,all bullshit it was started by a toon player a long time before Charlton thought of it his name was J Keerey (spelling) playing in the number 10 shirt,funny how some players try to steel others glory
icedog(Quote)
Shamrock – another cracking article mate, and you’re clear paying these legends a great tribute with the number of new posters you’re drawing in – welcome to them.
These players you write about were true talents, without any of the modern day technology or medical intervention to help them out. Fantastic records, sadly cut short. It’s also a nice distraction from the clubs current plight.
Sharpy17(Quote)
west brom also changing hands…it seems there are buyers out there after all
Munich Mag(Quote)
MM aye there is, but doubt anybody will pay the price Ashley will be charging. Can understand wanting to get some cash back, but surely made enough from us to suffer a bit of a loss like any other owner. Hoped he would have got bored and moved on, but I think he is here for the duration or until some massive offer comes in. He didn’t sell last time we got relegated, know he allegedly had up for sale, but didn’t go and if the R word does happen next week, I can’t see him attempting to sell again, just hang on and still use the club for advertising even if not getting as much adverts as is now, whatever he gets will be free so worth him still doing it
Simon(Quote)
Munich – what’s the asking price for WBA though mate?. And do they have to off field problems we do (boycotts) – actually, on field as well for that matter. Whoever was willing to shell out for us will also have to have a fair amount set aside to spend on players.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I’m **** sure the Toon are a more tempting club than West Brom.
kimtoon(Quote)
Villa are being sold for £150 mil so Wba will be about the same imo
icedog(Quote)
Kim – as things stand right now, do you really think so?
Sharpy17(Quote)
Ice – so how much for NUFC then?. And will Ashley want his loan money back too?! – he does with Rangers. I can’t imagine him taking all of that SD advetising down without a fight either.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I reckon he will be wanting £150 – £200M for the club then another £100 – £150M for his loan or however much it is. Maybe even a bit higher for the loan/debt as its supposed to be interest free to us, no doubt that accounts for some of the free advertising, o he will stick another £10M or so on for that, with an agreed extra year of all the SD adverts
Simon(Quote)
SHARPY jabba loan has gone up and up from about 95mil about 140mil now,which is about what its costing to buy Villa,so jabba will want 100mil
on top of loan so imo means it won’t get sold at anywhere near that price so we are stuck with him,storey going round that there buyers for spurs they want 1billion so go reckon
icedog(Quote)
Just goes to show how players switch off,WBA stuffing Chelsea,no way normally
icedog(Quote)
Ice – I reckon the buy price plus loan will come to around £300m. But then on top of that, I reckon the new owner would have to replace a hell of a lot of backroom/board staff. On top of that, we need a manager and new coaching staff, and probably a good 8 new players at least if they are coming in with ambition. You’re looking at around £400m before the season even kicks off – that’s going to require someone in the mega rich bracket.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Great read Shamrock mate.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Bill Gates where are you?
icedog(Quote)
Ashley will try to push us up to around 12th-15th place next season. I’m convinced we will stay up (not that my prediction skills are anything to brag about). So how much spending to get us to 12th-15th? I reckon it might take as little as 30M and as much as 50M pounds. A new head coach (if it’s possible to get anyone decent to come) will bring some new ideas and motivate some of the players who remain with us. We definitely must get a good CB and a good striker. That would be at least 30M. I think we also need at least 1 decent winger (preferably 2) so that could bring us up towards 50M. If Ashley isn’t thinking at least at this level of spending then we will be in a relegation battle again next season.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Just checking Johnny C.’s stats out. A tremendous 10.5% winning percentage with us now. Two league wins in 19 games. Diabolical. Has any manager ever had a 10% winning percentage at any club? Hard to imagine. Possibly Derby’s manager for their year in the Prem? I can’t be bothered to look it up.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Ice – I think I saw something about an open letter to Richard Branson and the irony made my laugh a little bit. If only he wasn’t so desperate to get us all to the moon!! 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Cracking thread. Loved the harry Enfield football vid 😆
GASHLEY(Quote)
Another cracking article Shamrock. – (we want more 😛 )
Deary me we don’t have a clue these days.
Great to hear from some of the owld gits with their memories, cheers fella’s, it must break your hearts to see the current shenanigans at the club.
To say we are barely a shadow of our historical past, is the biggest understatement imaginable.
I see Sky have put us on the TV on sunday.
YCMIU
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
even our decline will stuff a few more sheckles into fatty’s wallet.
luvly jubbly 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
LMAO 😆 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CXY6TVBMc
Jill(Quote)
This relegation battle will have an impact on next season too. NUFC aren’t able to make any plans for next season including getting a head coach or even lining up any players (if they ever planned to) and I am pretty sure when we get to August 31st we will have had yet another poor transfer window and we will be told it was because we were behind everyone else due to treat of relegation.
What a complete mess!
Stuart79(Quote)
Jill@57 😆 classic stuff
kimtoon(Quote)
After last nights result I don’t see Chelsea losing at home to sunderland on Sunday, they’ll want to get a win last game.
kimtoon(Quote)
Kim – it should be party time at Stamford Bridge this weekend. I can’t see Roman being happy if a loss spoils that. I don’t imagine Jose being overly happy about it either.
But to be honest, I think it us or Hull.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I think Carver brings this criticism on himself. The Charity event was for a good cause but he could easily have sent them 500 quid and said he had to put in all of his effort into NUFC in this vital week. They usually have raffles at these golf event and he could have sent a DVD of the highlights of the last 10 games. You know it could have been like the opposite of that classic DVD when Keegan won 10 in a row.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
So just Jonas and Taylor talking to the press so far and it is only Tuesday. I thought Carvs was doing a full on media blackout to keep the players focused? He just meant that they wouldn’t be reading or watching like he doesn’t every week – if he sticks his fingers in his ears and goes la la la la la that would block out the real world as well, yes?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
What am I going to do all summer when I haven’t got Carver to berate (hopefully)? That same Carver that up until 2 weeks ago Troysta was saying deserved more time because he had never really managed before YCMIU.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – if Carver gave his word that he’d be at the charity event then backed out at the last minute for anything other than a family reason, then I’d have less respect for the bloke for sure.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stuart says that Carvs has lost the dressing room and has inside knowledge of it. How can Carver have not lost the dressing room? We hear from him for 10 minutes a week at before and after press conferences and he just comes across as a buffoon. The players have to listen to his rantings all week. And I promise you they will be rantings as Carver appears to me to be a man who would be yelling and screaming thinking that makes up for his own inadequacies.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Sharpy: the charity thing would have been set up months ago. Carver could have sent money and said he had to remain 100% focused on NUFC at this vital time. It basically just gave some of the press another chance to put up pictures of Carver (Nero) having fun (fiddling) while NUFC burns.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
And sponsors and fans would have been staying away from the golf event in droves on hearing they wouldn’t be able to see Carvs 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
It may appear that I don’t like Carver. I have been accused of having a thing about it. I didn’t like Pardew or Fat Sam either. I have this thing about gobshites – they annoy me when they manage our club.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – charity events like that are more than just donations. It’s about raising the profile of the charity. Him being there raises the profile more a cheque for £1000. I haven’t seen any interview he’s done off the back of it or anything like that.
We’ve prepared the whole season, he’s been there every day – has it really helped?! 😆
But seriously though, him being at the training ground wouldn’t have made that much difference IMO. We know what we have to do.
It wasn’t a night out on the ****, or some bullshit pat on the back award ceremony – which they rightly cancelled.
This was a round of golf for a children’s charity that he has been a big/active support of for years. I just think that some things are more important – especially for the sack of 1 day or afternoon or whatever it was.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I agree with Sharpy. Carver made a committment for charity and profile beats bucks. half a day helping good causes is not going to affect match preparation , he has staff working on the game plan whilst he’s away. It’s probably best he’s out the way as much as possible!
Shamrock(Quote)
Eric it might do him the world of good to get away from the club for half a day to get his head showered, I really think the golf event is being blew out of proportion.
Big Dave(Quote)
Shamrock and Big D: it is a damning indictment of Carver’s (mis) management skills that you both think his absence is better than his focusing on what he calls the most important game in many a year. I am having a little bit of fun with it, and am not sure how Carver’s presence raises the profile of this event – more like sends everybody for the sickbags.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
It’s what his appearance represents, the club and the community. It was important he was there, even if he is a liability as a manager!
Shamrock(Quote)
Eric – you missed me off that last post, but I’ll response anyway. I think it’s a sad thing that you can’t see that he was there for the good of a charity – raising money for the research into treatments for children with heart diseases.
I’ve lost count how many posts you’ve put up reminding us all that he’s managed 1 point out of a possible 30. He would have been there for all of the training sessions for those 10 games and it hasn’t had an impact.
But I know I’m wasting my breath as your dislike of the bloke overrules any and all logic or decency. The bloke could have been photographed in Tescos doing his big shop and you’d give him **** for that too.
Sharpy17(Quote)